As I mentioned in other posts, I consider myself, for practical purposes, bisexual. 

My journey and circumstances have led me to enjoy sexual acts with men in the context of cuckold relationships and me dating couples on the submissive sexual spectrum as a sexually dominant male. 
 

The power dynamics don’t matter at all (dom, sub, switch), I just mention it for context because in my non LS world, no one would ever even think I am anything but a traditional heterosexual Latino middle aged man with adult kids and a 15 year medical career.

But that’s the fun of it isn’t it? The edgy, mystery of it once you are in a safe space with other “like minded” people.  But let me be clear, one of the hardest lessons I learned being a single male swinger is that those “like minded people” that podcasts and forums tell you are so open minded, caring, kind, and inclusive are some of the most brutally shallow, ignorant, homophobic, straight up mean demons you would ever encounter (with obvious very pleasant exceptions of course).

I can write a book on these horror stories (and I will), but tonight I find myself pondering on why the weird attitudes about sex in this setting? 
Like, why is it that when I’m dating a couple in the initial stages do I have to pretend this is a typical date? Or otherwise I’m a sex crazed pervert? Why do we have to play such a stupid, over dramatic courtship game in a lifestyle in which, all parties are fully aware, revolves around sex?

I can maybe understand that in a polyamory setting, if a couple is looking for a steady third. But in swinging? After we exchanged pictures and stories on explicit sexual acts you want me to perform on you and your wife?  Are the suit and tie, the fancy dinner really necessary? Or is this just part of the kink? You want to be chased as a couple? Seduced? I guess it would make sense if it wasn’t so odd and impractical (or never even discussed).

I have been rejected in the past many times. Most of those times because of my ethnicity or the way I look. But for a couple who was just gang banged and cummed on In the Virgin Islands by a whole village of strange men just a few weeks ago, you sure as fuck are picky on the aspect of my tie and choice of cologne.

And the homophobia! 
Bisexual men are seen as disease ridden sacs of shit in most clubs and events. Even by other men who have enjoyed my genitalia in the past!
“I wanna suck your cock but I’m not a fag ok!!! Don’t ever tell anyone or I’ll blast you!!!”

B R U H!!!! Calm the fuck down! We are all here to enjoy sex, in whatever shape or form you like, no one is labeling you, or me or your wife in any way! 
 

I know repressed homosexual desires can be distressing. But I’m a big advocate of therapy prior to entering the lifestyle (I have mine on speed dial). 
 

Either way, end of rant.

Ban me if you want, I just say things how they are. 

this throuple were swingers first at a party then friend for sure

6 hours ago, Adventurous5682 said:

...We got an evening planned where she will Meet me in a bar and rile play an escort, something she said yea perhaps that will be nice , which means in her language yes.

Great fun! Perhaps some of her role play can involve a little flirting with other bar patrons before working her way to you 😛

Hi , thanks .( once again )

to answer a few questions.

yes I would like to see my wife play with another guy and him her , maybe go all the way , if she’s into that . I would

like to have a soft play with a woman and then  and I can have sex together. 
perhaps a soft swap with another couple at some stage would be something I would like to do together. But atm in good to just let her get played with . Your right about the taboos and what’s said , we have worked hard on getting where we are today , and near enough every area we can say things like how we dress and other stuff , it’s not about what’s said but how it’s delivered. You know the story I guess .

anyways I like the suggestion about eventually I’ll have to cross the bridge , she’s not stupid and as I said in a previous post there’s not a lot we do t do other than swingers / threesome and couple swaps , we ruled out anal as

neither of us are into that and that’s was easy to discuss . I think she would be blown away if I just said would you

Like  to have a play with another man or sex , at this time it would freak her out and not only that she was not there yet .

from my wife’s conversations o think she wouldn’t mind going to a swingers club and just us watching a bit and getting turned on at first and see how it goes . We got an evening planned where she will Meet me in a bar and rile play an escort, something she said yea perhaps that will be nice , which means in her language yes.

On 5/3/2024 at 8:50 AM, HHgirl said:

Hubby and I recently went to a place called Paradise Lakes Resort near Tampa, Florida....in Lutz, Florida.  Actually we stayed there before the last Big Nude Cruise.  We were just looking for a place that had vacancy where we could stay nude before the cruise.  They have a lifestyle friendly clubhouse there that is awesome!  On the weekends they have like a sex dungeon that is open to couples only.  There are little partitioned areas but you can still see everything that is going on.  There are sex swings, all kinds of sex things that I don't even know what they are.  They have a mechanical sex toy that people can ride.  This sex dungeon club thing is only opened on the weekends.  All other times there are sex rooms where you can bring extra partners too...,. and there is a outdoor upper level deck where people who want to be seen can have sex.    I just thought this was an awesome place for people who might be curious and trying to find out if this is what they are interested in.  Hubby and I had a blast!  There are lots of younger people......in their twenties there. (From what I could tell)  I was mainly there just to have a place to stay where hubby and I could be nude......but I did enjoy the pickleball playing, the water volleyball and the general atmosphere.  The members there were friendly.  We will be back to Paradise Lakes!

Thanks for the currant info, Wu and I used to go there often back when it was AANR affiliated for the sand volleyball over by the old pool and old clubhouse. They had good music and dance area too in the bar back then. Eventually the attitude to sex loosened and they left AANR although Caliente was the place to go for sex, until now from what you say. We may have to check it out again, if nothing else there is pickleball and long walks. We did meet a couple at Relate pre-covid that are from Paradise, would be nice to say hi, maybe more.