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The first time you try something like this, the unexpected often happens. Yeah, it happened this time. But just because it did one time doesn't mean it'll happen again. First, get out of the back seat of the car. You aren't in high school anymore. Find a place where you can lay down, be comfortable. You know, a hotel room, a bedroom. Secondly, take an ED med. Yeah, that'll help. Thirdly, just enjoy the situation. You'll be amazed at how hard you can get while enjoying the sight of your wife and another man. And finally, and most important, stop fighting about it! You encouraged her to do this, now that she's given in, you're upset about it? Relax, take it easy, let the good times roll. Best of luck to you.

Life has many paths with some roads leading back to the starting line. Eight years ago I spent a night with a college friend and her boyfriend after a snowstorm at a football game. Plenty has happened to me since that night, engagement, learning some friends were swingers, getting married, an open marriage, a pregnancy that was terminated, a divorce, an abusive relationship and lots and lots of therapy. My life returned to what some call normal, dating men and occasional women. That original friend married, not the boyfriend I knew, had disappeared from my life and now reemerged. Not the scene of the crime she called and asked if I wanted to join her and her husband to the football game at our school. Reluctant to be “used” and anxious to feel free, I agreed. I found out another sorority sister my ex and I had played with had also married, a guy I never met, were also going to the game. The hardest part was reliving my last few years, I only gave an abbreviated retelling. With that all told both of the husbands couldn’t have been sweeter to me.

We said hello and opened our pictures for another couple. The other male wrote back that he was interested in my wife (duh, everyone is), but his wife said she thinks that I look too old. I am 3 years older than her husband if their profile is truthful and I guarantee you that her husband looks older than me. A workplace colleague once told me I have a baby face and I would never look old. I was going to be mean and say your husband looks older than me. But my wife said be nice, it’s a small community. So I said “ok, that’s fine, enjoy your adventures.” Lo and behold, literally the next day it turned out that both couples registered for a vanilla restaurant event for swingers. The husband sheepishly wrote to me that maybe he can convince his wife to be interested in me. I wrote back “ We are looking forward to the event and meeting new people.” My takeaway: Say you’re not a match and leave it at that. No need to hurt people’s feelings. We have played with many couples who we would not picked by their pictures or profile. And we had a great time.

Update We got back on the horse and tried again. We had a guy come over to our house this time. Everything started and everyone was involved. I was struggling again to get hard, but I took everyone‘s advice and persevered. I supported my wife through everything and she was incredible in making sure I never felt left out. we had gone in with the thought that she would definitely perform oral on the guy but we didn’t put any pressure on ourselves to go the whole way. After 45 mins of kissing, fingering and my wife sucking his dick I was still struggling to get hard. But then something just clicked. I relaxed a little and my wife was being absolutely incredible. I got rock hard and once my wife saw she wanted me to fuck her. I fucked her so hard and I was totally engrossed in the whole thing and actually started to take control of the whole situation. I fucked my wife some more while she sucked his dick and then I was actually the one to hand the guy a condom so he could fuck her. I watched him do it and I loved it and even though it didn’t last anywhere near as long as either of us wanted it to it was still amazing We are closer now than ever before and our relationship feels so much stronger. Thank you all so much for the advice

Our first LS experience was an MFM 3sum and, while it's very common for men to have erection problems at first, I had the opposite problem. I got too excited and finished in about 30 seconds. The terms of the 3sum were that my wife (then girlfriend) would only perform oral on him, but my lackluster performance caused us to change plans. It takes me a while to recover, so I spent the remainder of that encounter watching the other guy expertly fuck my wife to orgasm. That was a bit of a mindfuck but we still enjoyed the experience enough to continue and I didn't experience erection issues until our first MFMF experience a couple months later during our first visit to a swing club 😀 It doesn't always play out the way you hope but hang in there!

I've said this a million times so forgive me for saying this again, but for me watching my wife have sex with another man is like a 1000 volt shock that hurts so good. It was the basis of our very first LS experience and I think seeing it then short circuited my brain, which then rewired itself to want and enjoy it even more. My hope for aging is to (continue to) be that sort of creepy white haired couple always on the prowl for young studs. I can't think of a better way to spend our golden years together 😛

Everyone has different things that they enjoy, or that turn them on. The important part is to find people who fit you and your partner. This works for you and for them. Then that is great!

I concur with others; if that happened to us, we would be gone. We don't take our wedding rings off when we play. They stay on. Swinging is part of our marriage, not something we do outside of our marriage. Removing the rings is like saying "this doesn't belong in our marriage". That, and the reality that the rings disappear? Our rings have immense emotional importance to us. If they were lost or taken we would be devastated. The keys bit is just icing on the negative cake. No way, no how, not happening. We decide when we leave, not another couple.

Like everything in this lifestyle the fantasy does not always line up with the experience! Remember this is something you pushed for and it sounds like many years. Do not be upset with her for finally embracing the idea and enjoying it. You wanted this and now she does. That does not make her a bad person. As far as you not being able to get it up that is a completely normal thing in these circumstances! It is something out of your normal comfort zone. The more you obese and think about it the more likely it is to happen again. Also agree with above poster that the back seat of a car is probably not the idea setting for a first experience. I am going to be honest and blunt. If she is still interested why not take the pressure off yourself and her and let her have sex with another man of her choice with you present without the obligation that both of you will have to be having sex with her or neither? Let her enjoy the experience and enjoy her having pleasure. If you do get hard join in and if you do not be supportive. No pressure on you means no over thinking. This could eventually lead to what you wanted in the first place. If you can’t get over feeling jealous or that she wants other men more then you stop now and fix what you already have. It can’t be just about you and your wants. She needs to feel like she is getting something out of it other then being your slut wife.

Oh, my goodness, men exaggerating the size of their dick! What will happen next . . .

That's kind of creepy; it's like your property is confiscated until you comply with their demands. Or worse, you're being held against your will if you don't want to wait for them to return your keys. And it's just weird. When we have vanilla guests stay with us we don't confiscate keys. I don't know anyone who would ever do that; why would it be any different just because you happen to play with them sexually?

Not only good advice for the LifeStyle, but for Life as well . . .

The above advice about not having an erection is excellent. There's a common misconception that guys can get hard anytime, anywhere, for any length of time, for any reason, like our pensises are on-demand switches we can do with as we will. It's not like that. We're humans. Sometimes things can overwhelm us. Sometimes we're stressed. Sometimes something is so new it's too much to handle. This is perfectly normal, and is in no way a reflection on you, nor your interest level in having threesomes. The first time my wife and I played with another couple (a soft swap), I had trouble getting and maintaining an erection. The woman I was playing with was wonderful in every respect. That first time was a real struggle. We got to play with the same couple again about a month later. I got hard and stayed hard that time, no issues at all.

You should have let her complete her activities to her satisfaction. Enjoy the show and try again next time. It's not just about you.

Age is not a barrier to having an active role in the lifestyle. A friend of mine, sadly no longer living, for a couple of decades organized with her husband (and after his death by herself) sex parties that attracted people from their 30s up through their 60s and in some cases significantly older. If you are breathing and reasonably healthy there’s no reason you shouldn’t be enjoying partnered sex into your 90s. (My brother-in-law walked in on my 85-year-old mom and her 92-year-old boyfriend engaged in missionary intercourse.) I’ve posted elsewhere on the board that about ten years ago, when I was in my mid-60s, at a party I played with a couple in their mid-80s. (They celebrated their marriage in the late 1940s by hosting an orgy on their wedding night.) I’m in a longterm ENM marriage and regularly play with one couples in their late 50s / early 60s and another who are in their 40s.

I prefer shaved. Not fond of choking on hair. A radio shock jock said no one shaved when he went to college. He said oral sex on a woman was like wrestling Chewbacca.

We made really good friends in our search that started not that long ago. Those friends are much more experienced yet they have guided us with no pressure. For me the sight of a naked person is new, exciting and almost as important as the sex we have. On this group I read about all the experiences others had, some are unimaginable to me. My whole life I heard stories concerning size, something we just joked about without me not having much knowledge how sex would be better or worse with a larger man. Now in swinging I figured I would see all different shapes and sizes. Still pretty new swinging for me is not just a sex act, I’m interested in the people and it’s interesting how they differ. Normally my eyes focus on the man’s package something I now feel is okay. I enjoy my exploration of a man, women to a lesser way. I enjoy others exploring me and I get excited by the physical contact leading up to the act. I now had sex with 7 men, all were different in different ways. Shape or size was different just not by much. The men feel different and do things differently. I am lucky that all the men satisfied me and hopefully I satisfied them. My post, Can You Tell? is asking once you are having sex do others feel a difference in size? Maybe I’m not sensitive to that aspect of the act. Does it make a difference to others or is it psychological? My husband Timmy said he feels a difference when in different women even if he couldn’t tell me how they are different. I feel foolish asking yet I know I will get honest answers here.

I don't know if it's just my wife and I, but we have a couple we play with, in which the husband is quite generous (in our opinion) whenever it comes to the sex. We'll just call them Mr.Giles and Mrs.Giles. Sometimes wife and I play with them at a hotel/motel, but most of the time they invite us over to their place to play. Whenever we go to their place, wife and I get warm welcomes, couple drinks, light snacks, and we start chatting about life. You know, the typical "How's life? How's work? How are the kids? What you guys been up to lately?" etc. Now obviously their kids are not home, otherwise we would've got a hotel/motel room. After a bit of chatting, drinking, and laughing with each other, we finally get to having sex with the Giles. Almost every time wife and I get with them, it's going to be same room swapping. Of course, my wife and Mr.Giles have sex, and I have sex with Mrs.Giles, all in the same room. Between us four, the sex usually lasts between 40 minutes to 1 hour, and it's always enjoyable for everyone. Once we get closer to the end of the sex, Mr.Giles always offered my wife and I to do Double Vaginal, as a way to thank us for coming over to their place. My wife and I would never refuse such an offer, and get on with Double Vaginal. Mr.Giles always suggest that I lay down, have my wife on top of me, and he'll get behind my wife and on top of both of us, sandwiching my wife. Once we get into position, Mr.Giles would tell us not to do anything and that he will do all the work, so wife and I just relax. While I'm inside my wife, I can feel Mr.Giles thrusting into her, sliding in and out. I have to be honest, it felt really good, and I'm pretty sure my wife loves it too. Mr.Giles, while thrusting, would always check on us on how we're feeling, and I mean both of us. Things he would ask us are like "How's that feel? Feel good?", "You guys okay if I do it harder?", or "Is it too much? Let me know if it's too much, I'll slow down". While I'm on bottom, I always feel the urge to thrust up into my wife with Mr.Giles rhythm. But when I do thrust upwards, I start to edge quickly, and Mr.Giles always have to tell me "No no, don't thrust. Don't thrust. I got you" to which I oblige. When Mr.Giles thrusts harder, the intensity increases for me and my wife. Sometimes Mr.Giles' thrusts can edge me pretty quick as well, so I always let him know with something like "Ugh... Bud, too much... Too much... Easy... Easy...", and he slows down for me. After the edge dies down, he asks if wife and I are ready to continue, we say yes, and we continue. Pretty much the goal was for all three of us to cum together at the same time, which is pretty difficult to achieve in general. Finally, Mr.Giles, my wife, and I manage to cum together as close to the same time as possible. Once we finish with the sex, we all clean up, my wife and I say our goodnights to them, and we head home.

Relax, maybe have a drink first if you imbibe, and ride the pony. The fun of swinging is that everyone is different and it is up to the new partner to figure out what makes their partner feel good. We have both encountered partners that rang our bell and we have rung some bells, too. Some encounters have been unsuccessful, some boring. That’s the voyage. We hope our partner is fulfilled, we hope we are. If not, maybe next time. We don’t keep score, it’s not a competition. Have fun!

Preach it, man! Besides, he's not just trying to make himself orgasm, he's helping everyone reach their orgasms and be satisfied.

It was an incredable feeling. Seeing my wife so incredibly turned on. We were both so nervouse and afraid that it could ruin our relationship. My buddy and I started making out with her and she rubbed our cocks through our pants. After awhile we started to undress her exsposing her breast and we each took her nipples then we pulled her pants and socks off. There was my wife totally naked in front of one of our best friend . She undid his pants and he pulled them off and stood up in front of her and she pulled her hair out of the way So I could have a great view of her taking his cock in her mouth. I was rock hard and it felt like my body was numb as I watched her sucking my friends cock. I undressed and replaced my friends cock with mine in her mouth. We were all totally out of control. I asked her if she was ok and she said hell yes. My friend dropped down on his knees and start to go down on my wife and I pulled away so I could watch how she handled it . She was in a state I never seen before . My buddy stood up and grabbed my wifes hand and pulled her toward the bed room she laid down in the bed and he climbed on top and lined his cock up with her pussy and She held him off and she looked me in the eye and said are you sure ?? she actually had a tear in her eye. I said I am only if you want to. She turned toward my buddy and pulled him toward her and her tongue slipped into his mouth as his cock slipped into her pussy. He fucked her pretty hard before he came in her. He slid off and I slid on. As I fucked her I asked if she enjoyed doing it with our friend and she said she loved it . Our friend asked if she will let him do it again in the future. She told him yes as long it was good with me. After my wife took care of me she rolled on her side and started to suck my buddy again until she had him hard and asked if he wanted to fuck her again? He said he would like her to suck him off. This was so freakin hot because my wife never swallows and spits it out when she and I do it . She sucked him and when he came she just took his load and swallowed all of it . She was his side bitch from then on. we continued to have sex with him for years. After awhile he would take her out and fuck her when I was not there. The first time is such an icredible feeling . It feels so wrong but feels so good. The first time was just so naughty. after awhile the sex its self gets better because you know what works.

Both my wife and I are creampie aficionados. When Amy has a hall pass with Ken she brings home a CP inside her pussy so that I can enjoy seconds. Better than any lube that I can think of. The other night when I cum inside my partner, Paula, she held it tgere for the kongest time till I had a fresh errectio, just like seconds. There's no seconds with condoms

Petra, I’m a bit ashamed to admit that neither of our partners knew. We were cheating on them. I had to deal with guilt and I assume she did as well. My wife and I then had an informal ENM relationship, but the lack of openness troubled me. As I’ve noted in other posts my wife and I have had an explicitly ENM relationship for about 20 years now. It makes sex with others exciting, fulfilling and guilt free. 😊

That is exactly how I feel watching either of "my" men with Clair or Lora or another woman. Or watching Clair or Lora with one another, or another woman. The sting of jealousy, but do it again. At first I thought nothing could be better than having two men who loved me, fucked me, and were monogamous with me. And I liked the challenge of giving them everything they wanted. But sharing them heightened my desires and brought out my Lezzie side I would not have otherwise discovered. The first time a woman let me watch I kept thinking, "He's enjoying her so much, is she better than me? She enjoying him so much, does he feel the same to her as he does to me?" After they finished, I was compelled to take his limp dick in my mouth and taste her. Clair was the first to let me watch and lick my husband’s cum out of her. Both sides of playing are to be appreciated.

It’s remarkable how attitudes about (and potential consequences of) sex between people in business and other formal organizations have changed over the past few decades. And I would say for the better. I’ve come to understand that the power differentials in work relationships make for inherently unequal sexual/romantic relationships. When I was in college and grad school in the ‘60 & ‘70s sex between professors and students was commonplace. That was particularly the case for male faculty and female students, though in my case I dated a female senior faculty member. (It was interesting how gender affected perceptions. No one seemed to object much when the professor was male, my female professor took some stick from her colleagues and some of my classmates were a bit perturbed.) It wasn’t until the late ‘80s and early ‘90s that in my professional life I had subordinates. I didn’t play with colleagues generally, but one assistant and I experienced some unspoken but ongoing mutual sexual attraction. One afternoon, some time after she’d announced officially her intention to leave her job to back to school, she solicited sex with me. It was a very hot affair. Once or twice a week we would get a motel room and have sex after work before returning to our respective partners. Then we would meet again in the morning for sex before going to the office. I only had one other work-related affair, in the late ‘90s, with a woman who was temporarily assigned to the group I managed. It was a two-night stand on a work trip, facilitated by a business dinner with a lot of wine. She did note that if we were found out Inwould likely lose my job. (My then elderly assistant, who fraternallynl9ved me, clearly suspected something was going on. She was death on my colleague.) More than three decades after our brief business relationship we are still close. A few years later, after I’d left that company but was still close with many of my former colleagues, one (very cute but kinda obnoxious) female manager made the mistake of keeping on her computer desktop a folder of herself having sex with the woman who was then her secretary. An IT guy servicing her computer tried to blackmail her into servicing him. She turned the guy in to HR and he got fired. And then she got fired for having a sexual relationship with her subordinate,

I agree with the others that not getting going the first time is pretty normal. Getting insurance from a doctor isn't a bad idea. If you decide to get some medication, make sure you get real stuff from a doctor, not some stuff from mail order places. Don't worry, once you do get it up and running you'll likely finish must faster than you normally do because of the heightened atmosphere. The lifestyle is heavily weighted to the ladies. They get 90% of the attention. They can go as long as they want. For us guys, well, we're along for the ride. We have to worry about getting hard, staying hard and then not blowing too fast. As long as you're good with your wife having a good time and having an endless stream of guys who seem to be well endowed and stamina for days, enjoy the ride. It is quite fun.

Guao better explained impossible. get some ED pills, I had to at the beginning, even that when I was with my wife I was rock hard but in a swinging setting I could not get hard at the start. It will pass as you ease.

Get back on the horse! And do use ED meds if medically prescribed.

Cuckolding in an MFM situation: A cuckoldress is a wife who enjoys fucking another man, her bull, in front of her submissive husband, a cuckold, who enjoys being humiliated by his wife’s sex with other men Cuckolding in an FMF situation: A hothusband is a man who enjoys fucking another woman, his cuckcake, in front of his submissive wife, a cuckquean, who enjoys being humiliated by her husband’s sex with other women. It used to be that cuckold was reserved for a man who didn’t know that his wife was cheating on him, while a Wittol was a man who is aware and tolerant of his wife's infidelity, perhaps enjoying it. You may already being cuckolded and not know it. It used to be a requirement when when wittol was still used. Finally, a Candaulist is a man who exposes his female partner, or images of her, to other people for their mutual voyeuristic pleasure.

First of all, swinging isn't about the numbers, it's about the pleasure. However . . .. If you include guys who wear condoms (almost all of them for Mary,) I suspect that somewhere around 250 different guys came inside her. For me, it's probably 50-75.

You are looking for the other 1 in a billion?

As with most seemingly simple questions, the answers are rather more complex. There are really two questions here. The first, how long do couples keep swinging, admits to a range of answers. Some never try it, some try it once, some are off and on, some see it as a hobby, some see it as part of their identity as a couple. Longevity in the LS generally means one of the last three categories. If you have met one couple, you have met one couple, which explains the two questions--how did you start in the LS and (more often implied than posed) what keeps you here? The second, about 55+. Passion has no expiration date. The question becomes why is there attrition at 55+? More often than not, it's for health reasons, or for loss of interest by one or the other partner. It's usually not because there is a problem with the relationship. Marriage specifically and relationships generally have an arc; there's plenty of literature on this. What we do not see in older couples long in the LS is a threat of "grey divorce"--they are generally happy with themselves, happy with each other, happy in their relationship. We know plenty of couples who were in sexless or otherwise unhappy first (and even second) relationships who seem quite happy and content to be in the LS with their current (and often final) relationship. We'll add that older couples in the LS tend to look after each other and make sure that health and wellness are prioritized. What does tend to change with age is the character of LS behaviors. The excitement of finding the next couple wears thinner, and many older couples have people they know well, have travelled with or encounter in groups and so on. The reason is that in the seventh and eighth decades of life (60s and 70s) there is a natural tendency to simplify and declutter life. The awareness that at least 2/3 of life is past triggers a focus on "what matters to us". Usually it is not NSA sex but rather sustaining and deepening relationships. You are not "late to the party", but it does beg the question "what has happened that has catalyzed curiosity and interest now?"

It’s a Groucho Marx moment that if I answer a big dick matters most, you answer I am terrible in bed. And if I answer that it is better to do a good job, you then welcome me to the little dick club. I am sure the boys can offer advice, but when it comes to size, it is just the tip of the iceberg. The ladies are the ones that rule here. And each woman can need to orgasm through different stimuli. For example, in the film “Porn Star: The Legend of Ron Jeremy (2001)”, the protagonist claims some women can only orgasm through clockwise clitoral stimulation, while for others it is counterclockwise. For small vaginas, there can only be small penises. Accordingly, a tight vagina feels nice, but a loose one also signals anything goes and can let loose a MILF fantasy. We tend to be so self-conscious. At the end if the day men are visually focused and women are more into foreplay. Why are women like ovens? Because you have to turn on the heat before you put in the meat. What you have got right is a wet vagina, its play time! My take is that the largest sexual organ is the mind. If you can have intense conversation, or fantasies, then the physical follows.

I’m dealing with swinging etiquette, where to look, how to react and what to expect. I asked T, my husband what he looks at first with a new woman and if he looks at the men too. He had to think the same as I do. Looking at a person clothed I see a person, if he is fit, his face, smile, eyes. Not knowing how man think do they look at breasts? Guys always make remarks about big boobs, T says he looks at big boobs but prefers “pert”. When undressed my eyes almost immediately scan down, some men are already hard, how can I not notice? Scanning down men can’t see a similar reaction. I pushed Timmy to be honest and think what he looks at first. Boobs, butt, hips and puss at a glance. I read articles about size last night, averages are most likely accurate, I don’t have enough experience to say anything else. In the articles the conversation was more about thickness, they call girth, I agree I notice that during beginning play and oral, a thing I noticed years ago. What I found interesting and should know, we stretch to accommodate, I do have children. We agree we are all different which is the reason we are meeting others. Sex is physical, visual and psychological, our bodies were made to react to all.

As a woman, when that happens with my husband it feels so natural and I feel so loved. For me, having multiple men, even the first time felt so right. This is the way it's supposed to be!

She and I started out as friends. She worked for me in the 2000's and they (her husband and her) moved back to their home city in Oregon for about 5 years, then moved back. No hanky-panky the first time around, although I thought she was the greatest health care assistant that I ever had, and what a wonderful friend to boot! I was attracted to her but never suggested anything between us as it might have ruined a very beneficial work relationship. It really affected me the first time she left. We kept in touch infrequently on Facebook, but still no romantic involvement. That was 2007 when she left the first time, they moved back at the end of 2012, and I was delighted to have her back. She interviewed at a number of places but chose to stick with me even though I couldn't pay as much but it was much closer to where they lived so money was a wash. We both noticed that things has changed between us, and we became involved sexually within two months after she got back. I came to find out that she was also attracted to me as well. I had never "macked" on an employee before and I didn't this time either, but I knew it was only a matter of time before we would be lovers. We proved that theory at a work convention very early in 2013. The others from the business were with us for a work dinner and one by one they drifted off that night leaving us alone in Downtown Denver, with no one stopping us from indulging in the hanky-panky referenced above. Before long were dancing and sure enough a slow song came on and we were making out shamelessly on the dance floor. It was a very long six blocks back to the hotel, with me praying to God to strike me down where I stood because I was not going to turn this girl down! Now this was about eight o'clock and night and I had a bout fourteen drinks since noon of that day. My little friend was not responding when we got back to her room but I found ways to please her without his help. In fact, later on I found out that she hadn't noticed my predicament at all. So that was a lovely weekend, My roomie ducked out early, leaving us free for the rest of the time. We played with each other countless times that weekend and skied at Breckenridge on the way home to the mountains. What followed was an affair/relationship that lasted nearly four years before her husband figured it out and made her quit my employ. Was it love? Yes, I loved her more than anything, I would have given up everything I had to be with her, but ultimately she chose to stay with her husband. I did make it work with my wife as well, even though we kept it alive for a few years after that, sometimes a few times a week even though we had no legitimate reason to see each other. She and her husband liked to do MMF's with other guys, and I suggested that we include him in our shenanigans, but she vetoed that idea as she thought he would be able to tell that we were already involved. My wife and I had never swung together although I had proposed the idea to her many times over the years. She told me about their threesomes and I asked if she wanted to do that with me, as I had the group sex bug in my shorts for a long time. So we went to swinger clubs together, house parties, 2 on 2 couple meet-ups and the like, but we never went full swap. Her hubby I considered a friend and I always felt compelled to bring her home safe and sound, with no untoward germs in tow. I didn't want to bring anything home either, lol! As I said, they had played with others, only other men I think. He was bisexual and a bit of a cuckold. He had a hair trigger, would always go off within minutes or seconds of insertion, so he found other guys to keep her satisfied. She was a firecracker! I wish we had played our cards differently back then, but obviously it's too late now. He made some dates with other guys while we were together and she told me about them. My wife has never played with anyone but me, which is fine with her. And twice a week was fine with her, but it wasn't nearly enough for me, not by a long shot, so to speak... I realize a lot of you would call this cheating, not swinging (lecture away!) I say we were cheating with each other on our spouses but swinging with other people. We had the time of our lives.

I just got a new swinging partner, Paula. The first two adventures were with condoms and the third was bareback, Hopefully no ,looking back. Finishing I side a girl is extasy, .

Came inside one wife, was the hottest experience for me. Her husband watching and her begging for my seed too fill her up, he nodding and me releasing that seed. She let me stay inside for a moment, not letting me go then as I pulled out he just scooped up, hot too watch. I respect the rules of the couple but nothing beats cumming inside married pussy for me.

Many, many women in the Lifestyle do not enjoy girl/girl interaction. My wife was one of those. If pressed, she'd let another woman kiss her, or even go down on her if the mood was right. But she never went down on a woman. And we did very well in the sport. Do what you want to do, if others don't play your way, just don't play with them - plenty of fish . . . And never, never, allow yourself to be pressured by anyone to do something you don't think you'll enjoy doing.

Agreed; it isn't about the numbers. I do, however, remember the names of each woman I've ever had sex with. For me, it's just something internal; respecting the memory and the time we had together. Sometimes it was just once, a very few it was hundreds of times. Regardless, I want to remember each of them, and be able to recall their names when I'm old and grey.

Oh David, it's not about numbers, it's about the engagement within the moment. Cumming inside me is simply the 'icing on the cake' of a great fuck: sensually, physically, ot both or otherwise or more. Lots more.

yes there is applause. My wife is more afraid of potentially being filmed than the guys around. for more privacy but still a crazy time try Glamour beach, a private beach club in cap. Rent a bed and enjoy. its epensive though. bed is 50 euro and they force on you minimum a bottle of wine for 80 euros in addition to the 50. As its couples only the vibe is better. All is done in couples.

Good that you put your girlfriend first and you Very considerate and generous of you. Did you go down on her as well?

45 + years

PeterJ, that was my experience as well in my swinging days. First one of us cums in his wife, then the other. Rest for 30 mins, go at it again. Didn't give it a thought in those pre-Aids days. Even going down on her after one of us cums inside was no issue, even though we didn't consciously plan on licking cum. Sloppy seconds is the best lube there is. She was well lubed by the end of the session.

“Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal disease."

I have finally read your opening post and the entire thread several times as well as the end of 2021 / beginning of 2022 thread and have a number of thoughts, some of which has been implemented, some is the plan as the kids grow older. · I have had similar questions, concerns and thoughts, but never thought that I should raise them here on the SwingersBoard for two reasons. First, it seemed to me that most people who have gotten into the lifestyle are older with children who have reached adulthood and already left, so they’re not interested in the topic. I am glad that I was wrong. Second, I worry (am quite paranoid, actually) that it takes only one person in the Department of Children and Families to track folks like us and take some action. I worry despite thriving children with acceptance and support from neighbors, schools, doctors… So I am reluctant to post on the topic, despite it being very relevant to us. · It is not a question for us whether to disclose the fact that we (five adults in our family) are in the lifestyle as polyamorous. We live it every day and the evidence is our children. The kids know that they have biological parents, but all the children are our children. They accept it and do view themselves as being lucky to have all of us taking care of them. And although we are very conservative in the physical affection that we adult show each other in front of the children, they know as much as other children their age the degree to which we adults are romantically involved. · The most important lesson I see teaching our children as they become sexually aware is that it is natural for people to be sexually attracted to and possibly in love with more than one person. Each of us, however, needs to decide for themselves how to deal with those attractions. We mothers and fathers (David, Red, Clair, Lora, and Petra) have decided to be together, to have and raise children together. And yes, we do sometimes see other people who we are attracted to but don’t love. You children must decide for yourselves as you grow up how you will handle your attractions and love. Many other people will try to tell you what you should do, but you must decide along with those who you are attracted to and those who you love the life that you will lead. And your beliefs and goals may change along the way. · However you decide to live your romantic life (I use this word to encompass everything from casual sex to devoted love), you need to be honest with those with whom you are involved, i.e. cheating is wrong. It is best to be upfront about your philosophy. If you are seeking only casual sex, say so in the beginning. If you are looking for a spouse with whom to build a family, say so. If you are looking for a spouse but expect the freedom to act in some way on other sexual attractions, discuss it when the topic of sex first comes up. It is better to find true love resulting from a casual relationship than to try to open up a devoted relationship after things are tied down. · If you want to pleasure yourself, be private and considerate. Clean up after yourself. Daughters: If you want to experiment with any toys, talk with any of you parents and we will get you what you want. · If you want to watch porn, you can, we will log you on if needed. But it is limited to one hour per week and only on weekends. Remember, porn is mostly crazy fake stuff. You may find things that interest you, but not everything is normal with everyone. · Sex will affect you, it affects us all, in strange and powerful ways. Sex is nature’s way of tricking you into reproducing. That is the beauty of it; that is the danger of it. Mistaking sexual attraction and sex for love is a mistake almost everyone makes. Stop before you act and think – is this something that you want to do or is it something that you may regret later? Jealousy, yours or another person’s, can be emotionally explosive. If it seems uncontrolled, it is a problem. · Sons and daughters: Here are condoms in case you act on your desires and feelings. Daughters: If you expect to have sex or are having sex, please talk to anyone of your parents about getting on reliable birth control that doesn’t require you to think about it in the moment and permits full satisfaction. Sons: If you girlfriend need transportation to Planned Parenthood, let us know and we will pay for it. She can act on her own, but we are not her parents and cannot arrange it. · Sons and daughters: When you have sex, you can have it at home. But like masturbation, it is private. Be considerate of others. Lock the door clean up thoroughly after yourselves. If you are having sex elsewhere, be sure it is a place that is private and under your control. Trouble and embarrassment can result from intimacies in front of others. · There are diseases associated with the intimacy of sex. It is your responsibility to avoid health problems associated with sex. More partners means more risk. · It’s ok to be attracted to, have sex with, fall in love with someone of the same sex. Realize, however, that those feelings may not be returned. We also thought that it was a good to add the rule mentioned above: · Not to do any sexting, and explain that once it there it there forever and also it is very very illegal. Thoughts and comments are appreciated.

My first MFM threesome was more than 40 years ago. No one I knew used condoms in those pre HIV days, and the woman in the couple was on the pill. Her husband ejaculated in her first, while she was giving me oral. I came in her and then over the next few hours he came in her again and so did I. So, both he and I fucked her with the other’s semen in her pussy. It didn’t even occur to me that we were fucking into each other’s cum. A few months ago I played one evening with a couple who are also social friends. Planning ahead of time he wanted us to both cum in her. We did, but I don’t recall which of us ejaculated in her first…🙄😂 More relevant is that I’m in my mid-70s and they are less than a decade younger. She needed lots of lube (we both have wide erect cocks and his is long) and it’s just a fact of nature that elderly women don’t produce much natural lubricant and elderly men don’t evacuate at nearly the volume that young men do. So for those of us on Medicare all we have is memories of sliding our cocks into a well-fucked pussy that is dripping with male and female juices.

Thanks all for your responses and input. I’ve had many of these same thoughts myself. Let me see it I can clear up some things for you all give this situation a little more transparency. To LFM2: What does Rob really know? He knows mine and Becca's feelings run deep. I’m certain he knows this because he and Angie have talked about it. Angie wanted to make sure Rob knew because she did not want to be put in an uncomfortable situation where she had to guard what she was saying. I did not want that for Angie either and asked Becca to inform Rob, which she did. What she has not told him is that we have used the L word with each other. When we realized there was a strong physical attraction we both liked it. That’s why we didn’t stop. Don’t you enjoy having sex with people you find physically attractive? Isn’t that what swinging is about? I don’t mean to be flip, but I like having sex with attractive people. Why didn’t stop after the second night? I don’t know. I guess again, because we all like each other and the sex with Becca is really good. I admit, I was/am also enjoying the emotional connection I feel with her. We will not be going against Robs wishes. I respect and like the guy and I’m not about asking anyone to lie. You talked about the whole truth, and I suppose she has not told him the whole truth. That her emotions run more deeply than she has told him. This is a good point and it’s something I need to ponder on. It’s interesting that you think I’m disrespecting Angie and Rob here. I honestly feel that I’m communicating better with Angie now than in the past-and we’ve been pretty open throughout our whole relationship. I guess I disagree with you on that one-but maybe this point needs some more reflection from me. As far as disrespecting Rob-yes, he is not in the loop on everything. This is an issue for me and it needs addressed. Yes, I am acting like a hormonal teenager. Believe me I thought that many times throughout this whole situation. And I have had these feelings for Angie. I still do. I’m finding however that Becca is providing me with emotional support that Angie is unable or unwilling to provide me. Thanks for your input Holly. To Mr and Mrs V.: Sorry. Angie and I have been swinging for several years and this is the first time something like this has happened to us. We are talking a lot and working through it. To mauijanedoe: You said Becca and I are not a unit. You are 100% correct. This is another fact I’ve been trying to wrap my head around. One of the things I’ve told Becca is that we do not belong to each other. I belong with Angie and she belongs with Rob. Rob has no incentive to make opportunities for Becca and I to be together without he and Angie present, I understand and respect this. Don’t like it, but respect it. To swingergirl: No disrespect taken, it’s a fair question, how is my love for my wife. We have evolved into a calm, respectful partnership of keeping house and raising kids. We have both made a lifelong commitment to each other that we both intend to honor. Do we give each other butterflies in the stomach anymore? No we do not. But she is the love of my life. I miss her during the day and enjoy our intimacy during family/alone time. I can’t help but wonder if part of the attraction to Becca is the newness of the relationship and the joy of discovering that someone else finds me interesting, desiralbe and sexy. To coupleerotic22: See my last paragraph to LFM2 and swingergirl. Ultimately, Angie is my life partner but I feel I am getting different things emotionally from Angie and Becca. For Fundamental Law: Just to clear up any confusion, Rob knows there are feelings between Becca and I. He’s aware that it’s more than “just sex” between she and I. It’s just sex between Rob and Angie. You are right though, a further conversation between the four of us is probably long overdue. To Visexual: Thanks! You may be right that this is just an infatuation, I have considered this possibility. I know what my heart feels, and I know what my head thinks. I’m still trying to work out the differences between the two. To all: So here is what I think I need to do. I need to make sure Becca levels with Rob about the extent of our feelings and let the chips fall where they may. If he insists that we end it, so be it. I think the thing that has been bothering me the most is that Rob is not completely up-to-date on were Becca and I are. I shall close my novella now. Thanks all for your attention to my issue. I will keep you current.