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  1. 6 points
    You probably shouldn’t swing together if one of you has no problem continuing fucking someone while their own spouse is drunk, by themselves and vomiting.
  2. 4 points
    Linda and I just got back from an all day and overnight with great friends. We just have to say that swinging with friends is simply the best.
  3. 4 points
    We have always done swing partners -> friends in that order - until very recently when we did friends -> swing partners for the first time ever and I have to say it went smoothly. I feared it could have been a disaster but it was a total success.
  4. 4 points
    Sounds like the problem stems from drinking in both cases. I agree that a pause in swinging is in order, at least until you two get the booze issue under control. There is a certain unsexyness in a partner that is wasted and praying to the porcelain god.
  5. 4 points
    Instead of trying to make swingers out of friends, we also make friends out of swingers. Nothing like having friends that you can talk about anything to...and clothing is always optional!
  6. 3 points
    You say this is new to you after several years. Is this divergence manifest in other areas of your life? It might be a good time to do an in depth assessment both individual and as a couple. Somehow this looks more like a symptom than the problem.
  7. 3 points
    Having great friends is great. Having swinging partners is great. Having great swinging partners who become great friends is greater than the sum of its parts.
  8. 2 points
    First thing I would do is put a hold on swinging until you two can get back on track with communication! Not sure why if you had a problem with what happened with this guy you chose to play again with him so soon? Taking a break should not be an issue if you two truly love each other and are committed to your life together. As far as rules being broken that is not cool, but at the same time some rules are pretty hard not to break. No kissing is one I will never understand. Without it there is no sex for the two of us. Don’t believe it is any more intimate then putting your mouth on someone’s sex organs. If people are not aloud to fully enjoy their sexual experience’s with others what is the point of doing it? Insisting on condom use is legit and should be followed. It is both of you that have a chance of a lifelong STI if one of you is careless. As already said drinking can be a problem and makes people do stupid things. Maybe best to avoid it if you can’t control it. Do you need to have sex with others atm or do you need to be in a stable loving relationship?
  9. 2 points
    We both agree. We have been blessed with many very close friends in the lifestyle; women, men. Couples and a number of female couples. We never really met many male couples. Bi men yes, but the only male couples we met over the years in the lifestyle was at LS social events not at any clubs, parties etc. we have a number of them going back to when we first started out in the lifestyle and we are still strong today. sharing sex play is still an option but not the reason we are still tight.
  10. 2 points
    LS friends are the best friends.
  11. 2 points
    I think over our past experiences not much of any activity we were interested in we didn’t experience if not just once than multiple times. If I could wish for anything I would say having continual more poly based relationships with a few of our past lovers or similar long term with others. We had couples and singles/solo FWB and poly relationships that lasted years. These were the best. Not just sex but emotionally, intellectually, adventurous and physically compatible. Enter active open feelings sexually adventurous mutually sharing intimate friends/lovers. there is a female couple that for several years we enjoyed FFM/MF-FM relationship that has waned some due to distance and circumstances. I miss our mutual sharing. Not two on me but a three way pleasuring each other and me pleasuring both of them at the same time. I greatly miss our poly based relationships.
  12. 2 points
    This is just a big THANK YOU to our members who are diligent in tagging messages as SPAM. This immediately removes those messages from view and send them to your moderators for proper disposition. The sooner they are hidden from view the better the list reads.
  13. 2 points
    We had met Darrell and Judy at a swingers house party that we used to attend way back when we first started in the lifestyle. We have been involved for about a year and a half, and we met a lot of great people and played with some. Although we were very friendly with this younger couple, we hadn’t played. We had been in the same room together, in the open room, but never really discussed or talked about getting together physically in our conversation. At the last party, they had learned that I had a service business, something they might be interested in. They asked if I might be able to come by the following Sunday morning when they’re both home and go over some of the things they wanted to have taken care of. Darrell asked that I arrive early on Sunday morning, so I was there about 10 minutes ahead of time, parked in the driveway. Darrell came out on the porch and waved me to come on it. It was about 8 o’clock. We went into his kitchen, and he poured me a mug of coffee. After we chatted for a few minutes, he started to describe some of the things that he wanted done. He also mentioned that Judy was still asleep but should be down shortly. After about 15 to 20 minutes of casual conversation, you could hear movement, with someone coming down the stairs. A sleepy voice called out, “Honey, I need my morning dose.” Darrell responded, “Here in the kitchen, babe, we have company.” Judy shuffled in wearing her pink fuzzy slippers and an oversized men’s T-shirt, her breast swinging freely underneath the fabric. She mumbled a sleepy, “Oh, good morning,” as she headed for the pot of coffee on the counter. Darrell and I continued chatting away as Judy prepared her mug of coffee and joined us at the table. Darrell explained to her that we had already discussed their needs and that I had come up with a couple of suggestions that I would get back to them on. Judy sat quietly, taking it all in, sipping at her coffee, gazing between Darrell and myself through the rising steam of her mug. The conversation then turned to the usual general talk about what we’ve been up to, what they’ve been up to, work, etc. Darrell got up to pour another cup of coffee. As he passed Judy, she mumbled, “I need my dose, babe.” He just shook his head. I wasn’t really sure what all this meant. I assumed some sort of medication, but who knows? As Daryl returned with his coffee, he stood over Judy, bent down as she looked up, gently kissed her forehead, and said, “Honey. You wrecked me last night. I have nothing left to give.“ Now I had a good idea what they were talking about and must’ve given myself away with a muffled chuckle. “She can be quite the demanding vixen, “said Darrell. “She kept me up half the night, and I’m all tapped out.” Judy looked at me with a very mischievous smile on her face. Darrell looked down at Judy and said, “If you need more, you’re gonna have to get it from him,” Daryl stated, tipping his head in my direction. I have to say this took me by surprise. As I said before, we have not played yet other than sharing the same area in a group room. I did not know what to say just sat quietly with probably a very silly looking grin on my face not sure if I should respond or not. Judy is the one who broke the silence. “Hmm I think I would like that very much if he is willing” again a moment or two of awkward silence when Derek stated “buddy you’d be doing me a favor I need a break.” Now I will be honest: Judy is a very good-looking woman 15 years my junior, about five foot eight, with an hourglass figure, long brunette hair, and large full breasts. To say I was attracted to her, you’re damn right. I just was not expecting this situation and did not want to overstep my bounds. “Well?” Darrell asked. “Really?” I asked. “Please. She has been talking about you since the last party. She is very willing,” Darrell persisted. “She sucks me off just about every morning. I got nothing left.” Judy smiled and giggled. I quietly thanked myself for showering this morning. “I just need to make a quick phone call to check in at home, but I would have to say I’m greatly interested and would be happy to oblige.” Judy let out a squeal of glee, clapping her hands in front of her, and I could not ignore the shaking of her breasts underneath the thin T-shirt. I made a quick call to the Queen, stating what was going to happen, and she responded, “Good luck, enjoy yourself, be home by 1 o’clock. We have plans this afternoon.” I put my phone down on the table, looked up at Darrell, and Judy smiled and said, “Well, I guess I’m free.” Judy took a sip of her coffee, turned her chair to the side and asked me to come stand in front of her. Once there, she did not waste any time unbuckling my belt and jeans, pulling them down to my knees. In one motion, she pulled my boxers down and buried her face fully against my flaccid cock and balls, sniffing deeply. She rocked her head from side to side and softly murmured a gentle “mmmm” of approval. After nuzzling me a bit, she gave me two gentle kisses, and using only her tongue, she swept my soft cock into her mouth. I looked over to Darrell to see he had a big grin indicating to me he liked what he saw Judy doing. I relaxed a bit more. Looking down at Judy she had her eyes closed. She was rolling me around inside her mouth with her tongue. Then she sucked hard and gently bobbed her head a few times, then took me completely into her mouth again. She was making soft, guttural moans as she continued attacking me. “She really loves doing this,” Darrell stated. I did not respond other than a sigh on my part. Judy continued working me with her mouth, and I started to respond to her efforts. As I started to swell, she took less and less of me into her mouth. She started stocking me with her hand and mouth. After a short time, she “popped” the head of my cock out of her mouth. “Oh my,” she said as she stroked me with her two hands, “I didn’t expect this.” She gasped, then took the remaining length of my cock beyond her two fists in her mouth. “Dude,” exclaimed Darrell, “do you mind if I take pictures of Judy with that?” I could only nod my head in approval; I didn’t want to break the mood. Darrell fumbled with his phone and started taking pictures. Judy, with just the tip of me in her mouth, hands-free. And then one of my full length from her chin to her forehead. “Damn,” Darrell stated, happily clicking away. Judy used one hand to stroke me while sucking on my balls. Darrell had the sound activated on his phone, and there were times it rapidly stuttered as he excitedly took multiple pictures as Judy skillfully continued the assault on my full erection. She tried to take more of me in her mouth but could only manage about half of me before her gag reflex kicked in, and she loudly gasped, popping me out of her mouth and sucking in a large amount of air while stroking with one, then both hands. Every now and again, she would run her tongue from my balls and under the length of my cock, sinking as much of me as possible into her mouth. At some point, the shutter noise on Darrell’s phone stopped. I wasn’t sure when, but he continued to move the phone camera around Judy’s head and shoulders, I assume taking video. After several minutes of this, although I’m not very sure of the time, Judy stopped. “Let’s go in the living room.” I kicked off my sneakers and pants and, with her holding my cock in her hand, led me into their living room to a sectional couch and had me sit on an oversized ottoman. She took a pillow from the couch and knelt on it in front of me. She resumed stroking me. One-handed, two-handed, then into her mouth. Shallow, deep, gagging a bit, then back to stroking. Time drifted away as I was enjoying every moment of her efforts. “Tell her when you are ready to cum so I can get a closeup,” instructed Darrell. Again, no answer from me other than nodding my head. Judy continued vigorously, trying to get me to cum. She rested occasionally, stroking my length with her two hands. After a bit of time, I heard her ask Darrell, “Can I try this? I really want to try him.” “Hell yeah,” Darrell exclaimed. “Is that ok with you?” he asked me. “Sure,” I responded. Judy is still working on me. “Only cum in her mouth,” Darrell instructed. I mumbled an “ok” in agreement. Judy told me to lay back on the ottoman as she stood stripping off the tee shirt. Her breasts swung freely, jiggling with her every movement. I expected that I would be given a condom or she might roll one on me, but instead, she turned away from me and started to lower herself onto me reverse cowgirl. Seeing my concern, Darrell assured me it would be okay if I was okay with it. I agreed. My crotch was soaked with Judy’s saliva. I watched with eager anticipation as she positioned herself over me. Darrell was giving her some instruction so he could get his video of her lowering herself onto me. I witnessed a few rivulets trickling down her inner thighs. She grasped my cock with her hand and rubbed the end of it along her lips while slightly lowering herself back and forth but not penetrating. After a few moments, I felt her start to take me in. She gasped and stopped for a moment, then repeated, taking me out, rubbing me back in. God, she felt great. Judy shifted herself slightly, still holding my cock. She guided me back into her opening, taking just the head of me into her. After a brief pause, she lifted her hips up a little and then backed down a little further. A few strokes and then a little more. Each time she did this, shallowly stroking what she had in her, she would slowly take a little more. With each deeper penetration, her body would gently quiver a bit. “Damn, this is hot”! Darrell blurted out. If he thought what he saw was hot he should see this from my angle. Damn is right. I do not think either of us were aware of time. There was no rush, no frenzied groping or pumping. Judy was in complete control as it should be, all about her pleasure, her comfort. It wasn’t long before I was completely embedded inside the warmth of this woman. Using her body to stroke me, she would take me shallow, then deep strokes, occasionally stopping, deeply penetrating, and grinding on me, almost like dancing on me with her hips. I could hear her murmuring something from time to time, but I didn’t make out what she was saying. I was too engrossed with what she was doing to me. After a while, she stood, releasing my cock. She turned, facing me, and straddled my waist. Grasping my cock she guided me into her, and she settled completely on my cock. “Damn babe, do that again,” Darrell, now directing this video. I didn’t care at all; I was thoroughly enjoying myself. He directed her to rise up almost off me the slowly back down. I was lost in her breasts hanging down on me, her nipples brushing along my chest with her rocking motion. Judy’s breathing was quickening with the occasional moan. I loved stroking her breasts, using both hands to hold and squeeze while my mouth teased and pulled on her nipples. She started to ride me harder for a while, stopping every so often with full penetration, wiggling her hips. Once she started raising herself completely and then slamming herself back onto me, taking full, deep strokes, I started to feel that I was getting there. “I need you to take me,” mumbled Judy as she raised herself off of me. I stood, and she knelt on the ottoman. I accepted the offer of taking her from behind, but I took my time. Partial and shallow strokes, then slowly pushing in deep. Gauging that she was comfortable with this, I spread her cheeks apart with my hands, went as deep as possible, and paused. With each deep penetration and pause, she would gasp slightly and pump and grind against me. I’m not sure who was breathing more excitedly, Judy, me, or Darrell, who was totally lost in videoing and watching through the lens. He had swapped out his phone for a handheld video camera at some point, but I am not sure when. I hadn’t noticed. Judy set the pace. She started bucking back onto me hard and solid. I took the hint and picked up the pace, slamming back into her with full deep strokes. Her verbal jerky breathless “aaahhhs” and “oohhhs” excited me and Darrell. He was moving around us videoing from various angles commenting as he goes. Judy announced we had to stop. I was concerned if she was ok. She was; she just wanted to be on her back. She grasped my hand and, giggling, pulled me quickly down the hall, with Darrell a step behind me, to a bedroom. She sat on the bed and quickly took me into her mouth, running her tongue along my length. She laid back her butt on the edge of the bed, pulling me to her. “Fuck me hard,” she said, “but I want you to cum in my mouth.” I nodded that I understood. I position myself between her raised legs. She pulled her legs back and wide open, bent at the knees. I leaned in, pressing myself against her opening, grasping each breast in my hands. Bending to nuzzle and suck on her nipples made me enter her partially, making Judy wriggle a light and let out an audible sigh. I squeezed both breasts together and alternated between each nipple as I started to push deeper inside her. She wiggled her hips, trying to press onto me. Once fully penetrated, she ground herself on me. After a few minutes, I raised myself above her and started slowly pumping into her. I alternated shallow pumping with a few deep full strokes and, from time to time, pressing deep into her and just grinding against her. It seemed to excite her, judging by her body response and breathy moans. “Fuck me hard,” she said, “take me hard!” Our director shouted the same, “Pound her hard!” Placing a hand on each thigh to hold her legs open and back, I started a steady thrusting, alternating occasionally slamming against her hard. Judy responded with pleasing moans. She fondled and squeezed her breasts and then gathered them both on her chest, cradled by both her upper arms. Her breasts rocked and waved with each thrust. It was marvelous. I was desperately trying to keep the same pace. Judy traced her fingers over her lower tummy, bringing both over the top of her pubic mound. Her fingers, finding her sweet spot, started vigorously rubbing above her clitoris. I continued to piston in and out of Judy. Her mouth opened, and her breathing sounded labored. After a few minutes, she started to make a soft-pitched whimpering noise. I continued to thrust hard into her. Only slightly withdrawing, then slamming back into her, making her whole body jerk, her breasts jolting about with each impact. Her whining noise was getting a bit higher and louder, and then it hit. She suddenly sucked in a big breath of air, her head picked up off the bed, a long guttural moan that ended on a high note. “Aarrggeeeee!” Then, her back arched as she slammed her head back, followed by rapid breathing and intermittent uncontrolled giggling. I felt her contraction, an intense gripping of my cock as she climaxed. I slowed to a slow, deliberate, full-stroke penetration. I knew I was very close. I declared, “I’m going to cum!” and pulled out of Judy and stepped back. Judy slinked off the bed to her knees on the floor. I was pumping my cock by hand. Judy pushed it aside and started to rapidly jerk my cock by hand. “Cum for me, come on, cum” Judy repeated this a few times as the build-up reached its peak. I moaned low and loud. The first volley went across her open mouth and right cheek. The next, she aimed me directly into her mouth. Third and forth, under her chin and neck, the remaining small spurts and drops landed scattered over her breasts. “Wow, oh my god!” Judy squealed excitedly. Darrell was beside himself with excitement. Other than the pictures and videos they made themselves, this was the first video allowed with someone other than Darrell. He said, “This is crazy sexy, hot as hell”! The clock in the bedroom indicated we had been at this for about 90 minutes. A first for all of us. But to be fair, a hell of a lot of manual and oral play, stop and start, prolonged it all. Judy agreed, reached over, and pulled Darrell to her. She quickly pulled down his sweatpants and promptly took his cock in her mouth. I picked up their video camera and started videoing the two of them. Judy had Darrell hard in just a few seconds. She made an extra effort to lavish his cock with her mouth, bobbing her head up and down and then swallowing him whole. She then pulled him down on top of her. He quickly slipped inside her and started hammering away with Judy, encouraging him along, “Take me baby, fill me up!” From my view, I had a clear shot of him pumping his cock in and out of her. With her telling him to take her hard, cum for her, and watching the two of us for the past hour and a half, he had no hope of lasting very long. He started groaning, Judy telling him to fill her. He let out a bellow and started cumming inside her. I caught the whole thing on video. His pumping and cumming. His cum leaking around his cock out of her. And when he pulled out, the cum leaked out of her. When things calmed down, he viewed the video and couldn’t believe how hard he came and how much he gave her. Judy chimed in, “And you said you didn’t have anymore, holding out on me.” We didn’t get dressed. We went into the kitchen and talked about what had just happened and past swinging adventures. About an hour later, Judy walked over to me and asked if I could go again. I looked at Darrell, and he quickly shook his head yes. “If you can, that would be awesome”. I agreed. We walked back to the bedroom and climbed up on the bed. We kissed and fondled each other a little bit. I then positioned myself on my left side and maneuvered Judy on her back with her legs up and over my hip. I easily slipped my semi-soft cock inside her. She was very warm and wet from Darrell. My hands were free to caress and squeeze her breasts. Darrell switched between videoing and kissing Judy. He occasionally played and sucked on her breasts. I slowly pumped a little into Judy. After a few moments, she exclaimed, “I can feel you growing inside me,” and giggled in amazement. Once I was fully hard I changed position to a supporting missionary. Using my knees to keep Judy’s legs open and my arms keeping me up to watch and nibble on her breasts. I started slow, long thrusts and built up to harder, faster, full-length thrusts. In about fifteen minutes, I was pulling out and dribbling cum on her tummy. Judy sat up and slid down, taking me into her mouth, making an effort to suck and lick me clean. It was almost noon, and I had to run to get home on time. We promised each other we would get together soon, all four of us. And that we did. They joined our group and played once or twice a month at our parties. We also traveled and shared very often for 4 - 5 years. Then, they moved to New Mexico for Darrell’s work.
  14. 1 point
    As I mentioned in other posts, I consider myself, for practical purposes, bisexual. My journey and circumstances have led me to enjoy sexual acts with men in the context of cuckold relationships and me dating couples on the submissive sexual spectrum as a sexually dominant male. The power dynamics don’t matter at all (dom, sub, switch), I just mention it for context because in my non LS world, no one would ever even think I am anything but a traditional heterosexual Latino middle aged man with adult kids and a 15 year medical career. But that’s the fun of it isn’t it? The edgy, mystery of it once you are in a safe space with other “like minded” people. But let me be clear, one of the hardest lessons I learned being a single male swinger is that those “like minded people” that podcasts and forums tell you are so open minded, caring, kind, and inclusive are some of the most brutally shallow, ignorant, homophobic, straight up mean demons you would ever encounter (with obvious very pleasant exceptions of course). I can write a book on these horror stories (and I will), but tonight I find myself pondering on why the weird attitudes about sex in this setting? Like, why is it that when I’m dating a couple in the initial stages do I have to pretend this is a typical date? Or otherwise I’m a sex crazed pervert? Why do we have to play such a stupid, over dramatic courtship game in a lifestyle in which, all parties are fully aware, revolves around sex? I can maybe understand that in a polyamory setting, if a couple is looking for a steady third. But in swinging? After we exchanged pictures and stories on explicit sexual acts you want me to perform on you and your wife? Are the suit and tie, the fancy dinner really necessary? Or is this just part of the kink? You want to be chased as a couple? Seduced? I guess it would make sense if it wasn’t so odd and impractical (or never even discussed). I have been rejected in the past many times. Most of those times because of my ethnicity or the way I look. But for a couple who was just gang banged and cummed on In the Virgin Islands by a whole village of strange men just a few weeks ago, you sure as fuck are picky on the aspect of my tie and choice of cologne. And the homophobia! Bisexual men are seen as disease ridden sacs of shit in most clubs and events. Even by other men who have enjoyed my genitalia in the past! “I wanna suck your cock but I’m not a fag ok!!! Don’t ever tell anyone or I’ll blast you!!!” B R U H!!!! Calm the fuck down! We are all here to enjoy sex, in whatever shape or form you like, no one is labeling you, or me or your wife in any way! I know repressed homosexual desires can be distressing. But I’m a big advocate of therapy prior to entering the lifestyle (I have mine on speed dial). Either way, end of rant. Ban me if you want, I just say things how they are.
  15. 1 point
    Two thoughts occurred to me from your post. First, it has been my experience that one is, more often than not, going to find what they expect to find. Second is that while you may truly be the best thing since sliced bread, that is going to get you no where unless others see it. That is the reason for the "date" For most of us being with people of like mind does not insure having sex. We expect to be able to relate to playmates at something more than a gonadal level.
  16. 1 point
    I think you're wrong there. My wife, and a number of other women I've talked to, have been hot to go with a guy, then decided not to when he showed himself to be arrogant or shifty. And my wife let herself be talked into a good time with a guy who engaged her mind.
  17. 1 point
    Great fun! Perhaps some of her role play can involve a little flirting with other bar patrons before working her way to you 😛
  18. 1 point
    Hi , thanks .( once again ) to answer a few questions. yes I would like to see my wife play with another guy and him her , maybe go all the way , if she’s into that . I would like to have a soft play with a woman and then and I can have sex together. perhaps a soft swap with another couple at some stage would be something I would like to do together. But atm in good to just let her get played with . Your right about the taboos and what’s said , we have worked hard on getting where we are today , and near enough every area we can say things like how we dress and other stuff , it’s not about what’s said but how it’s delivered. You know the story I guess . anyways I like the suggestion about eventually I’ll have to cross the bridge , she’s not stupid and as I said in a previous post there’s not a lot we do t do other than swingers / threesome and couple swaps , we ruled out anal as neither of us are into that and that’s was easy to discuss . I think she would be blown away if I just said would you Like to have a play with another man or sex , at this time it would freak her out and not only that she was not there yet . from my wife’s conversations o think she wouldn’t mind going to a swingers club and just us watching a bit and getting turned on at first and see how it goes . We got an evening planned where she will Meet me in a bar and rile play an escort, something she said yea perhaps that will be nice , which means in her language yes.
  19. 1 point
    I have a question for the experienced couples on the board. For quite a while I have had the desire to be in a more sexually charged environment while having sex with my husband. Now, I have been hanging around this board and learned a lot about the maturity required to swing and I must say I am impressed by a lot of you. The reason I bring this up is because I would like your opinions. I am wanting to find some couples or groups that are open and mature like yourselves to watch while each couple has sex. I am in my 20's and find that a lot of couples around my age lack maturity when it is called for. Of course for a lot of couples at any age it seems can barely keep their own relationships together. On the other hand it seems that a lot of you put respect and your relationships above all else. Other than the fact that I am not technically a swinger (yet ), I feel you people share more in common with my ideals than most groups of people. I would love to try new things but I'm not near ready for a 4some or swapping. However, I feel that being in and getting comfortable as a couple around swingers would open the door to a lot of new experiences for me. So I was curious how the couples on here would feel about having a non swapping couple around having sex in the same room as them? Does it make a difference to you if there are just 2 couples, more than 2, group sex, or swapping going on in the room? What do you think the best way to go about it would be? Is this something that Swingers in general accept?
  20. 1 point
    I think I created a monster (in a good way). As I mentioned before, singles males are probably the lowest on the swinger totem unless you look like Henry Cavill or something. But a good friend at work and her husband invited me for brunch one day in the West Village (my old stomping grounds before I moved to Brooklyn due to outrageous rents), and confessed to Me that they were curious about the lifestyle and that her husband was Bi curious. Im fairly open about the lifestyle with my close friends, so they wanted to arrange a play date with me (out of all people, a husky big Latino bull). Turns out hubby is into “bearish” looking dudes. We ended up having a very mellow, fun play date in which I technically took the “swing” virginity of both. It was also hubby’s first time giving oral to a man. Now I can’t stop them. They go to Hedo every year. They have a place there. They go to podcasts, events, they host naked yoga parties. She tells me “your crooked brown cock catapulted us into swinging”. It’s not really a “badge of honor” nor does it give me “bragging” rights of any kind. But it makes me feel good and it’s one of the few reasons I remain in the LS despite the brutality of it.
  21. 1 point
    There's an old piece of advice here that is very, very relevant: In getting into swinging or hotwifing, always go at the pace of the slower person. Some couples take years, and that's ok. My wife and I took eight months. Some couples take a weekend. No I'm not joking Whatever works for you is exactly the right speed. You say your wife is good at hiding stuff. That can be a bit of a problem. It's important for mutual communication to become very strong. It can take time to develop that, to get to the point that she feels comfortable divulging her innermost secrets. Even coming to an understanding of them to the point that she can articulate them may take a long time. There's growth here. She's gaining a deeper understanding of herself and exploring it. It's hard to know you two as a couple with just a few posts. But, at a guess, it sounds like she wants you to help her explore her erotic self. Think of this is sort of a Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs sort of thing (if you've never heard of that, look it up!) She's exploring the self actualization aspects of herself. Part of this can be scary for some people. We're programmed from an early age that monogamy is a must, and cheating is the death of a relationship. Well, having sex with consent isn't cheating. So that becomes a really difficult concept to wrap one's brain around. Rewiring the brain to think of this as something that benefits a relationship can be a slow and quite scary process. Questions can arise like, "Just how much of a slut am I anyway?" "Do I really want to be a slut?" (it's not being a slut) "Will my husband really still love me?" "Why are we doing this? Isn't it enough for us together?" and on and on and on. We're not raised in such a way that we have a tool set to manage this. It can take time to acquire this, and gain enough understanding of oneself and the relationship to get to the point of being able to do it. I'm just looking at web reviews, and Le Boudoir appears to be an upscale lifestyle/sex club. That might be too much all at once for your wife, even if the two of you are just observers. I can't judge that; only the two of you can. I mentioned above about going to a regular (non-lifestyle) club. If you go to such an upscale club, and your wife dresses nicely and in a slightly to moderately provocative way, you can have her go in ahead of you and take up a seat at the bar. You can come in 10 minutes later, and take up a chair at a table or a booth or something, where you can watch your wife. She can feel comfortable knowing you've got her back in the event some guy gets pushy. An advantage to this is your wife doesn't have to do anything except sit there and look pretty. This can be beneficial in a number of ways. First, many women think poorly of their appearance, even if they're quite beautiful. Men coming up to her will show her she is attractive, even if she doesn't think so. Two, the possibility of another man...even just the possibility...can super ignite your sexual appetites for each other. It's important to embrace though that if no one comes up to her it doesn't mean she's not attractive. Just the wrong group of people that night. I mentioned hotwifing above because of something you said; about how your wife would react to you watching another woman. Hotwifing comes in many shapes and forms, but the basic principle is that the wife of a couple has sex with other men, while the husband (generally) doesn't have sex with other women. This sounds very much like what your wife might be comfortable with as you move forward. Maybe down the road she might be willing to involve another couple. Right now, I suspect (based only on what you said) that she wouldn't be too comfortable with you flirting with another woman or softswapping with another woman. There's another term to learn; compersion. Compersion is essentially the opposite of jealousy. A person experiences compersion by actively being aroused/excited/enjoying their partner having sex with other people. For me, I absolutely "have" (like it's a disease? haha) compersion. I think my wife having sex with other people is incredibly erotic, and I love it when she has lots of fun. The more fun she has, the more fun I have. There's been times when she's been having literally toe curling sex with another man while I am there, and hearing her sounds and watching her motions is just flat out incredible. Is it possible you are wired this way too? You noted about how much it excites you to see how turned on she gets. Imagine how turned on you might be watching another man have sex with your wife and she's thoroughly enjoying it. Is that you? That might be the basis of some conversation with your wife, to encourage her to understand that it's really about her, and not about you wanting to be with other women. Maybe other women might come later, but who knows? That's up to the two of you. I hope that's some things to think about and maybe discuss with your wife. Please feel free to keep asking questions! We're happy to help! Oh and one more thing; you asked about meet and greets. Here's a Reddit thread that might get you started on finding meet and greets in England: https://www.reddit.com/r/UKSwinging/comments/1c65nuc/swinger_meet_and_greet_uk/
  22. 1 point
    Time for a pause on swinging. It sounds like you are feeling unsure of how she is with this other man. At the very least, don't swing with him until you sort things out. If she gets upset over that, then I feel like you have bigger issues.
  23. 1 point
    A good game of truth or dare might provide you with some clues - only if she is willing. Don't push her!
  24. 1 point
    I think a lot more swinger couples are into this than will admit 😉 Q: Why now the "green light"? Why was it red before? As for us, the first thing that gets my wife's attention is a nice smile. From there she considers his physical attributes, overall good looks etc., and then his personality. If all checkboxes are checked then, schedules and distance allowing, we meet. As for fantasies, we have fulfilled many over 25 years of swinging but there are 2 left on our bucket list. The "pizza dare" - we have never done it Have a nude, male "Chippendales" type to wait on us for a weekend. Serve meals, drinks and refreshments, do dishes, keep the place tidy etc. and be rewarded accordingly.
  25. 1 point
    It can be problematic if the friend is hard wired mono, but just occassionally did swinging due to curiosity....or is attracted to one of the couple.
  26. 1 point
    We had one swinger couple virgins, or possibly two. By the time G&R contacted us on SLS, we were pretty experienced. She (G) reached out to us (she did almost all the communicating,) and explained that they were just thinking about getting into it, and asked a few questions (based on the fact that our profile on the site was intelligent [her word] and interesting.) I answered, she asked a few more questions, it became a regular thing. Then, after some months, G asked if they might have dinner with us, with no commitments. We met them, a wonderful couple and spent a lovely evening with them, although other than handshakes or kisses on the cheek, nothing happened. This went on for a couple of months, and suddenly, G said they were going to take a break. Okay, that happens. A good four or five months later, G called us up and said they were finally ready to take the plunge - would we do them the honor of being their firsts? Of course we accepted. They came over to our house on a snowy evening. They were both nervous, you could tell, and we spent maybe an hour in our living room, just chatting. It got to the point that I was beginning to think they had cold feet. Then G got up and sat on my lap and we shared our first kiss. Mary (my wife) stood up and she and R kissed. We led them up the stairs, Mary pulled R into the guest room and I took G into the master bedroom. She wasn’t nervous at all, but let me lead her through the seduction. I remember that she came heartily, and I heard my wife’s screams through the hall. Forty minutes later, or so, Mary and R joined us in the Master bedroom and I went and got cake and coffee. We sat around for a while, naked and unashamed, and chatted until we all got in the mood again, when we were all on the same bed. G told us a few days later that they had a wonderful time, that our gentleness and patience was the factor that encouraged them to take the plunge. They became some of our favorite playmates, either at our house, their house or a couple of times at a swing club. G&R soon accepted invitations from other couples, One night G told us of the first time she really got into a woman, and about their first MFM. And, one night when Mary was out of town, I asked G if maybe she and her husband would entertain me for my first MFM when I was the other guy. A great relationship. Now, the second? Well, we were steady members at one swing club, but we knew another, about an hour and a half from our house way out in the sticks. They were on a hilltop and had a pool you could swim naked in, so on a sizzling summer evening, we headed on down. It was much more casual than our usual joint, and a lot smaller, but. still they had that pool. We swam and hung out until well after dark, when we got to talking to a very good looking woman and her husband, M&T. We asked if they’d like to go into a room, and they said yes. But, they said, they were only soft-swap. We said okay, that’s fine. We all get into the room, and we’re having a great time. After plenty of oral sex, M said to her husband, “I want to go all the way,” and he agreed. So the four of us just had a ball. As we were dressing, M&T begged us not to tell anyone else at the club we’d full-swapped. They were regulars there, and had never done anything like it, they didn’t want the others to think they would go all the way if asked. Now, they didn’t say they’d never full-swapped before, it just seemed that way. So, I’m not sure if they count as LifeStyle Virgins, or not.
  27. 1 point
    We made friends that were originally new swingers. We now say playing with friends is the best.
  28. 1 point
    I have always been interested in history, the past, how if any our predecessors social, emotional and sexual practices by clan, tribe or societies around the world throughout human history. I stumbled over this while searching for other information on customs and practices. Evidentially our current environment wasn’t that different. Modern humans/society didn’t invent sex/sexual activities as we know it today….who knew? https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/FeaturesEurope/PrehistoryHohleFels01.htm https://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/phalluses-0018976
  29. 1 point
    "It [the phallus sculpture] was highly polished - and clearly recognisable!" "Its life size suggested that it may well have been used as a sex aid by its makers," Perhaps being used as a dildo caused it to become highly polished.
  30. 1 point
    Sexual bucket list? I’m 76 and I’ve lived in real life pretty much all the sexual acts and combinations I fantasized about when I was young and middle-aged. And a few I hadn’t. 😉😂 I’m grateful I remain sexually active, and am sometimes able to revisit a few of those bucket-list items with a short list of single and couple FWBs.
  31. 1 point
    Hubby and I recently went to a place called Paradise Lakes Resort near Tampa, Florida....in Lutz, Florida. Actually we stayed there before the last Big Nude Cruise. We were just looking for a place that had vacancy where we could stay nude before the cruise. They have a lifestyle friendly clubhouse there that is awesome! On the weekends they have like a sex dungeon that is open to couples only. There are little partitioned areas but you can still see everything that is going on. There are sex swings, all kinds of sex things that I don't even know what they are. They have a mechanical sex toy that people can ride. This sex dungeon club thing is only opened on the weekends. All other times there are sex rooms where you can bring extra partners too...,. and there is a outdoor upper level deck where people who want to be seen can have sex. I just thought this was an awesome place for people who might be curious and trying to find out if this is what they are interested in. Hubby and I had a blast! There are lots of younger people......in their twenties there. (From what I could tell) I was mainly there just to have a place to stay where hubby and I could be nude......but I did enjoy the pickleball playing, the water volleyball and the general atmosphere. The members there were friendly. We will be back to Paradise Lakes!
  32. 1 point
    Some instruments are longer than others. 😆
  33. 1 point
    While I find the "inaugural ball" with novel partners exciting at one level, for me the other side of the coin is that subsequent encounters will likely be even better as we learn each other’s bodies and responses.
  34. 1 point
    There have been times when I've heard my wife moaning with other men and thought "who is making that noise?" Just to turn around and see it's my own wife 😄
  35. 1 point
    "Performance art." A good observation. Sometimes while watching others have sex, it strikes me that way, as an artistic achievement. As a practiced rather than instinctual act. Like dancers or figure skaters. Beautiful.
  36. 1 point
    Who cares it is just a title that has different meanings to different people that use it! There is no special badge of honour for it. We have known people that do swap with others that do not like to use that title. Just live your life the way you want and don’t worry about it.
  37. 1 point
    Sex in front of others for self gratification and performance art, to turn on other couples or singles, qualifies as swinging in my book. Even though nobody touched nuthin on the other couple. Tell us some of your "soft swinging" episodes. Did either of you want more? Were you both okay with your level of participation? I think soft swingers are hot!
  38. 1 point
    I would agree with Billygoat. If you are not technically 'swingers', you're right on the cusp. I wouldn't worry about it. Unless, of course, you're looking for the official certificate. In that case, we're going to have to consult the Rules Officials . . .
  39. 1 point
    This all started around forty years ago when my wife Beth and I had dated for a few years then married. It wasn't long after we married that I introduced her to her first big realistic porn star dildo. When she first saw it she laughed and said, "That'll never fit in my pussy, are you nuts?!" But she agreed to trying and found not only did it fit but she really enjoyed it. She was amazed by how much she enjoyed it. So much so that she requested I use it on her quite a lot. She also discovered she enjoyed big cock porn, she was fascinated by it. Soon was I combining using a huge dildo on her at the same time she watched big cock porn, this led her to experience huge orgasms. She couldn't get enough. She was finally exploring her sexuality and expanding her outlook on sexual pleasure. One night after some really hot sex I questioned her if she ever fantasized about fucking other men, especially well-hung men. She responded that of course she did, stated that most women had this fantasy, and she believed it was quite common. So I pursued it further and asked her if she wanted to try another man's cock and how much did she really desire to do it? She said that it sounded exciting and fun but she would never do anything to endanger our marriage. I said, "What if I told you that I wanted to watch you have sex with another man, one that had a really big cock. Would you then consider it?" She laughed and said she'd be game if it was something I was serious about and really wanted her to do. She said, "Come on, let's be real. It's exciting and fun to imagine it, but to really do it? Please! That's a major game changer." So I said, "I'm very serious. I've watched the way you enjoy the dildos especially while watching big cock videos. It turns me on big time seeing how excited you get and how many times you climax from doing these two things at the same time. I want to watch you do it for real. No BS, just watching you getting slammed by a big cock would be a huge turn-on for me. So what do you really think now that you know that I'm serious and am giving you this opportunity?" I could see her giving it some serious thought, she didn't get mad or upset at me or the idea, no resistance whatsoever to my request. The more she considered the idea the more it appeared to me that she was very intrigued with the idea and it excited her. She started asking all kinds of questions, like wouldn't I be jealous, or think the worst of her, or what if she really enjoyed it and wanted more or didn't feel comfortable screwing another man, then what? Were there any rules and what were the consequences? Was I absolutely sure that I really wanted her to do this, because once done there was no going back! After she finished asking everything she had concerns about I answered all her questions and we talked about the rules/boundaries we would have in place to keep it fun and exciting without any reservations or guilt. This was to make sure she fully understood my concerns and alleviate all of hers as well. It seemed she came to a decision at which point she smiled and enthusiastically said yes, she'd do it! Did I have someone special in mind she wondered? She said she had to agree to my choices for her sexual escapades or it wasn't gonna happen. I then informed her I was thinking of Bruce. Beth squealed with glee, she admitted she has had fantasies about Bruce for some time now and I couldn't have picked a better choice for her first time. She would absolutely love to fuck Bruce. She said she was getting wet thinking about sex with him. A few days later I met up with Bruce for an after work drink. As we enjoyed several drinks we talked a lot. Soon I steered the conversation towards my wife Beth. I asked Bruce to be honest and tell me what he thought about Beth. He admitted he thought Beth was smokin' hot. She had a killer body and was just gorgeous, always was friendly, and liked flirting with him when they were together. I asked him if he' ever had the chance would he consider having sex with her? He looked a bit concerned by my question but answered yes, he wouldn't hesitate to take advantage of such an opportunity. So I told him that Beth really wanted to have sex with him, and that I was okay with them hooking up. I explained that was my kink watching her get fucked by other men, it really turned me on. Bruce considered it for several minutes then said okay sure, he'd love to fuck Beth. Just give him the details when we're ready to make it happen. When I got home I told Beth about my conversation with Bruce and what he said. She looked startled and said she couldn't believe I did that. So I asked her if what I did was so wrong and did she still want to go through with it? She excitedly said Oh hell yes she did, and no I wasn't wrong! So we made plans and set a date for Beth's first cock. The night arrived finding Beth both excited and hot with anticipation. She was dressed to kill showing off her sexy body wearing no underwear. When Bruce knocked on the door I answered it and escorted him into our house. Beth entered the living room and gave Bruce a big hug pressing her chest and pelvis into him and then kissed him on the lips. Bruce kissed her back and he sat down pulling her on to his lap. Nether one of them wasted any time, tongues going everywhere, hands exploring and groping each other, clothes coming off. Soon they were both naked and Beth got a pleasant surprise, Bruce was very well hung. She giggled with delight. Beth took Bruce's hand and led him to our bed. She pushed him down on the bed and went to work on Bruce's big cock giving him an enthusiastic blow job. After a while Bruce flipped Beth on her back and went to work on her pussy and clit. Beth orgasmed in minutes, fully enjoying Bruce's skilled tongue. I stood in the background watching the show. Soon Bruce moved into position between Beth's legs. As he rubbed his cock against Beth's open pussy and clit she responded with loud moans and started pressing her pussy against Bruce's cock. As he slid his huge cock into Beth's pussy she had a big climax. As he went deeper he increased his speed and Beth climaxed again. She was enthralled with his big cock pumping her pussy, she was moving her hips and swearing, telling him his cock felt so good. She looked over at me and said she loved how good his big cock felt inside her. She told Bruce to stretch her pussy good, to fuck her hard. She was in sexual ecstasy, a place she'd never been before. Her facial expressions showed pure bliss and the sounds she was making were hot as hell. I never seen her so turned on, she must of had a dozen orgasms, many of which were huge. They fucked each other hard for a good twenty minutes then Bruce erupted into Beth's pussy, filling her with his cum. This gave Beth another climax. Afterwards he laid on Beth for a minute then rolled off her. He'd destroyed her pussy, it gaped open with his cum dripping out of her. They kissed and he got up to dress while Beth laid there spent. She looked at me and smiled big time. She said, "Your turn!", so I took sloppy seconds and enjoyed it beyond belief. Bruce watched us have sex then commented that watching real sex was so much hotter than any porno ever could be. He understood my enjoyment of watching my wife fuck other men. He said he'd like to do it again and Beth was all for it. So they made plans to hook up again. Then Bruce left. Beth and I talked about how well things went, and how she wasn't prepared for how much she enjoyed his big cock. It was mind boggling! She thanked me profusely for asking her to do this, the opportunity to experience such awesome sex. She says she'll never be the same again and is looking forward to more big cock sex. So our new lifestyle began.
  40. 1 point
    For us a real man who loves his wife also loves her with or without cum in her mouth and would of course kiss her when a man has ejaculated in her mouth. If she enjoyed his cum, why I shouldn't enjoy it with her too? Some would see this as a sign of weakness and humiliation. But it is not a sign of weakness, but of pure masculinity and true devotion to a woman when a man can do this out of love for her. Because love are not only words. Real love begins when other men can desire her and are allowed to gift her with their semen and you feel deeply connected to her. I love and desire my girlfriend, no matter who is cumming into her mouth or vagina. And naturally if she wants to share a man's semen with me through a kiss, I would love to kiss her.
  41. 1 point
    Mary got a little wild at a house party one night, it wasn't a gang bang per se. Normally, the most she would do in one night was three - one man in a foursome with me, perhaps a single guy, and of course me. One night, she did four in an orgy-type situation. That night at the house party, after a foursome a single guy desired her, she agreed and didn't complain when he took her into the common room. And then the chain started. We're sure she had at least eight, the total may have been a dozen or more. On the ride home, it didn't seem much different than any other night, except she was very tired and we didn't have reclaim sex. The next day, I couldn't tell any difference as we got up and went to church. When we finally got around to talking about it later that day, she was exuberant about the experience, and when we hit the mattress in the afternoon she seemed as excited as usual.
  42. 1 point
    I was tired and sore as hell. I had nine men. They came back for seconds and thirds. Loved it. Hubby was proud of me and I felt great pride too. Ten years ago I did 23 over three days at an adult nudist resort we are members of. I love sex.
  43. 1 point
    Yes - it’s definitely something I enjoy after having a good vaginal orgasm. 9 times out of 10 when we are playing with another guy, we get into a DP session as long as his cock isn’t too big - that does nothing for me. My husband and I enjoy it as well.
  44. 1 point
    Mixed emotions after the first one. I was with a previous boyfriend and it was really all about him. We belonged to a nudist club that was very vanilla all day and then completely hedonistic at night. He enjoyed showing me off during the day and introducing me around. I was 24 and definitely got attention. My first involved 8 guys of mixed ages. It started out as a card game with me serving drinks naked. My boyfriend asked how I would feel about letting a couple of them touch me. I was horny as hell from being naked all day so Inwas all in. I sat on the couch and they took turns feeling my tits and rubbing my pussy. Eventually one guy started giving me oral and i was in heaven. As I leaned back a guy started jerking his cock by my face to I took him in my mouth. Another guy added his big cock to the mix and soon I was sucking three cocks. I knew what was next so i got on all fours so they would have easy access to my open pussy. As i concentrated on sucking their cocks I could feel them taking turns sliding their cocks in me. They would pump me hard for. minute or two and then switch. It was crazy, i didn’t look at them I could just feel their cocks in me. A couple of them were bigger than what I was used to - I loves they way they felt. After I had my first orgasm, I could hear them as they moaned and I stared to feel their cum landing on my ass and on my back. One guy was seated so I got on top of him so I could face the other waiting guys. Another guy got in front and worked his cock inside me as well. I was wet and loose at this point so I easily took both of their cocks inside me. I was sucking cocks and taking loads of cum on my face and in my mouth. I was so taken with all the guys and the whole experience that I wasn’t sure where my boyfriend was or if he was even there. Afterwards I felt pretty weird coming back. It definitely rocked my world but it didn’t happen again until I was married. I liked being used and I definitely loved being the center of attention - still do. 8 is bit much, but three or four fun guys is perfect for the occasional slutty workout at this point in my life and relationship.
  45. 1 point
    We didn't have fluffers at the gangbang that I posted about earlier. There were a number of couples there to watch but one of the rules was that they wouldn't play with the gangbang guys until after the gangbang. We didn't want their attention wandering elsewhere. After a while I found that a good rhythm was getting dp'd while doing oral on a third. The other guys just had to keep themselves entertained until it was their turn. I don't think any of them really minded but I did hear several of them tell the guys who were getting serviced that they wanted to cut in for a while. For the most part the guys were pretty cooperative with each other and it worked out.
  46. 1 point
    It is very acceptable. As others have said, just be honest and upfront with anyone that you choose to swing with. We have done soft swinging with a couple that we previously did full swing with before. It is really erotic to watch two people who love each other make love. It makes the making love part for yourselves even that much more erotic for both couples. Lori
  47. 1 point
    We went to a swing party, our first, and it didn't work out at all like we had thought it would and it worked out wonderfully at the same time. However, we both learned a lot from the experience that will tailor our tastes for times to come. We had no expectations to begin with... had actually expectated to go up to our room and have hot sex alone together (which is mighty fine if you ask me)... but, one thing led to another. We have to say, that the best time we had was when it was us and another couple... just exploring and some oral... no penetration. It was very comfortable. The most important thing to us though was, that throughout the entire experience, we were totally aware of the other. We were making love to one another even while there were other people touching us or we were touching others. We caught eyes, we smiled and talked. The most memorable was, after we had fantastic oral with the other couple, we held each other close and looked each other in the eyes and said, "I love you" simultaneously. It was "us" having fun... that's the most important thing... and, we imagine, why people say go at the speed of the slowest... enjoy yourselves... etc. We feel that, as long as it is the "we" that are having fun... then WOW... sorry for the long post, especially from a newbie... but have fun [as an aside, because we noticed you mentioned ages... we are 32 and 26 respectively ]
  48. 1 point
    I think that we started out that way, although we never thought of it as swinging. Just a bunch of friends sharing a hotel room and having sex. There are numerous couples out there that are soft swap only. As the others have said, just be honest about how far you are willing to go. You shouldn't have any trouble finding other couples with the same interests.
  49. 1 point
    I'd go along with what Tanman said. At the end of the day, so long as you don't misrepresent yourselves, then you should be able to swing as soft or as hard as you like. I can appreciate the problems encountered during the houseboat trip, when there are limited places available, but you should still never feel put off from sticking to your guns. If it's a busy shore-side on-premises club, there shouldn't be any problem with you blending into the background and doing all the watching that you like. After all, newbies are encouraged to visit and see what goes on without feeling pressured to join in. And there are always enough "watch and be watched" types out there for you to track down an individual couple to play with at home or at a hotel.
  50. 1 point
    My 8 kids range from 3-23. From old stories from the older ones we have never done anything that hey were not at least pretty surely aware of. They don't tell you until you are older but they are smarter and much more observant than you think. We never do any playing with others at home and would never consider it. But things like caller ID, where ya going? Why does mom have her negligee and your boxers in that bag in the back seat next day? Also, private conversations are quite often heard between walls, through furnace ducts, and just plain forgetting who is in the house. Be prepared to be caught whether you swing at home or not. Kids are just little people but have huge curiosities about what parents do. Kids ability to perceive is terribly underestimated I have found.
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