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  1. ( as of October 5th, we will no longer be newbies and offically will be at the 2year mark of being in the LS, so I will refrain from using the "Newbie needs ...." title in the postings lol) Good Morning / Day all! So my topic for today: People and their Hidden Agendas, or why can't people in the LS just state what they want? So last night was our first test of seeing if we could do play solo, as the wife had a date with BF of a couple that she had interest in for a while. They have been talking through FB Messenger, and hit it off well. So, Yesterday they planned a date by were she would go to his place ( about an hour away), cook dinner for her, and he would let her shoot guns on his property. Then if they felt like it go dancing later on. So we set our rules and discussed with the BF: no drinking for her ( as she is terrible at night driving and drinking and driving for her at night has had bad consequences) and that we are condom mandatory. Call first if plans change or fall through, call or text upon arrival and departure. He lives in rural part of the state about an hour from us, and about an hour from Tulsa, the next big city. So the Mrs. goes out and has the date, leaving around 1pm yesterday. She texts her arrival about an hour later, all good. Around midnight I check Find My and it says she has gone to Tulsa. So i figured they must have went dancing as sure there are Dance clubs in Tulsa. About 4am the wife finally makes it back home. Mind you she did text when she was on her way, so no worries. I asked if she was ok to drive she said sure. Upon arrival at home I ask her to unpack the date and tell what went on, just checking in. So: She lets me know that the date started as planned, that they had shot the guns and then he made her dinner. They talked and discussed lifestyle stuff and experiences. Since they had walked the length of his property she decided to take a shower to get cleaned up and that led to afterwards her getting a massage from him, which led to them having play time. He didn't abide by our Condom Mandatory rule, and she didn't do a Condom Check, as she said " i got lost in the moment". As they were having dinner later, the girlfriend of the BF shows up. Well we both know that the GF leans heavily Bi-sexual, and is quite known for "hunting" girls within our circle of LS friends. So the GF suggest rather than going dancing, that the three of them go with another lady friend of hers to an LS Club. So they all four go to an LS club. The GF tells them "oh this club is known for Girl Gangbangs and we should see one tonight". So they go to the club and my MRS, who's never seen a Girl GangBang is intrigued. So they end up meeting a few other LS female friends from our circle, & the Group goes into a playroom. Well according to the MRS., the BF and her start playing, and then it ends with the BF leaving the MRS in the playroom with the other ladies and she ends up in the Girl Gangbang as a participant! So, of course when I finish hearing the story, my only and one reaction is: Why did they have to lie? Why not just tell you that was their agenda from the beginning? the MRS of course is appalled at my reaction, and doesn't believe they intended to enact this from the beginning. And yet all the signs to me are there.... My question for the group is three fold: 1. My gut says this is what it was. Am I wrong in thinking this? 2. How far do I push this in the fact that rules were broken, and how, if i should, spread the blame on this one? 3. What should I do as far as the LS friends? Cut them off? Out them for their behavior? Just never see them again. This LS stuff will drive you crazy if you let it......
  2. Put up a ad on CC it was flagged which I really don't get. Someone answer before hand. We exchanged email most of the day yesterday. He is married wants to see his wife with another man. But at the end of the emails he told me that his wife wouldn't not be part of it but he was still willing to do it be behind her back. I don't feel comfortable about it. We don't want or need the drama that may come with it. I told him we are going to pass didn't feel comfortable without his wife.
  3. So we've only been on SLS for about a week and one thing has become abundantly clear that the men are the main point of contact as opposed to the women. When we planned and had discussions on how we would handle things I was very adamant that I wanted her to be the one making contact and discussing things. Ultimately I want her to be comfortable and it is her decision if it proceeds forward. I find it strange that the guy's are the main contact and kind of creepy. It makes it hard for us to distinguish who's real and who's doing things without their spouse's knowledge. What have all of you experienced as the norm?
  4. We recently received an e-mail on our Yahoo (and we never get e-mail on Yahoo). The long and the short of it was: "We are interested in the lifestyle and would love to talk to you guys about it. We'd love to know about your experiences. Interested?" Sure - we're interested. After all - we are swingers. Meeting new people is half the fun (okay - it is more like 1/42 of the fun). So we tell them so. The reply? "Great! We are [enter generic couple info here]. We'd love to know more about you - and your experiences. How would you guys like to get together for lunch?" Well - gee - sure. Sounds like fun. We send them our cell number. "Give us a call and we can set a time to meet." "Oh - looks like we might not be able to make it. Bummer! We were looking forward to it. If we can, we will confirm by e-mail, but right now it doesn't look good. In the mean time, we'd really love to hear more about you guys - especially your experiences." At this point - we have told them quite a bit about ourselves - including our "generic experiences" (i.e. positive marital impact, etc.) without getting into the "nitty gritty" details which we wouldn't share anyway. So - ding - bell is going off and maybe they are not what they seem... Maybe... We reply, "let us know." And nothing more. "Yep - we can't go. It is official. Poop! You guys seem great though! We were thinking we should exchange pictures. We'd love to see you guys! Of course, we can only send one of the wife, but not the husband since he has an important job and has much to lose..." Now - I have to admit - there is a real prickly feeling I get when people assume that they have more to lose than I do. It seems like the rest of us, dear friends, have nothing at all to lose - but this one couple does. Must be tough... But - that is not entirely the reason why I am not buying this. I mean, anyone can go to Yahoo personals and download the picture of a woman, right? Bait for us to send our pics... Our response? "Sure - we'd love to exchange pics. And we understand your husband's need for discretion, which is why we prefer to talk by phone first to make sure of who we are sending those pics to. Intersted?" Needless to say - the response has been cyber crickets, chirpping away... You'll notice a theme - they wanted our experiences. Not our "how did we get into this" experiences, but they were looking for - and I'll call it as I see it - "stroke material". Oooo, baby... Oooo... Yeah we had this threesome and he put his... And I think that would have made them happy... Or was it even a "them"? I am not so sure. In fact, I highly doubt it. So - this thread is about the "Spidey Sense". It is a way to "out" the scammers and fakes who are preying about on lifestyle folks - pretending to be what they are not in an effort to get what they should not have. Cheaters, liars, fakers - skewer them here... Share with the rest of us the situations you have had that have had your "Spidey Sense" tingling. What did you do? How can we identify the same types of scams? I think this could be a very educational thread! One rule - no names! If you know them, keep them to yourself. Be Safe! Spoomonkey
  5. According a recent article women aren't the only ones faking orgasms. So how bout it guys, fess up. Have you ever faked an orgasm?
  6. Hello, everyone! Long time no post! It's been quite the long time. For awhile we lost all hope in finding that unicorn, but recently we decided to get back into looking for her. So here we are! (female posting, as always). I do have a question, I just want to know if this is common with unicorns. So, we posted an ad on Craigslist (I know, I know: not recommended but we were really careful in what we posted). Got at least five hits in two weeks which is more than what we got on SLS. Sidenote: Our old account got deactivated due to not using it in forever, so we created a new one. So here's hoping we get more hits there. Anyway, I digress. The second girl that replied to our ad was hot. Like, really, really hot. We thought it was too good to be true (turns out it was, but let me finish). Hubby and her trade emails through Craigslist, where you have your real email masked. Then she tells him she wants to email with me, too which is fine. So we do that. Then we trade pics. She wants to know about my experiences, which wasn't much. We talk about all the sex stuff which is fine. Then we wanted to know more about her, like interests, etc. I personally feel more comfortable when I know more about the female than just sex. Couldn't get anything like that out of her, it was like pulling teeth. Then after awhile it turns out she only wanted to be with me, and not the male at all. She claimed to be bi when responding to the ad, but turns out she was a lesbian. We are only interested in playing together, so having the hubby watch isn't going to happen. Then we got another response recently. Did the same thing as above except we got a lot more info that seemed to be legit. She kept wanting to see me completely nude, with face in the picture. Then she sends me a picture of her exposed, ahem...you know. I then ask for a picture like that with her face in it, and she wouldn't do it. Haven't heard from her in over a week. So, basically my question is: Is this normal? Our ad on CL is probably buried under hundreds of other postings so we most likely will not be re-posting there and sticking to SLS, since it seems like you get more verified, real people there. If you got all that, you get a cookie.
  7. I think this is common but how common is it really. My wife and I are ready and eager to actively start swinging. We have gone to clubs, we have found couples and single females on local boards, we have texted, we have chatted and we have even had dinner with a couple of couples and drinks with one unicorn. Conversation goes really well on the web and on the phones. What we are finding more often than not is the following. a) Got to finally meet, things going good. Bring it up then never hear back (Troll or Fake) b) Other people bring up a meet then they start calling it off multiple times. Heck you asked for the date, not us and once we say yes you back off?? (Not a troll or fake since both female and male side has been verified on phone) c) Send out an e-mail (dozens of them) and people just never bother to have the courtesy to even respond. The profile even says looking to meet everyone, if you are not interersted that is fine don't be shy just say so. d) Meet one or two times, "dates" go great and the other couple or female even state they are interested in more...then nothing. It's starting to give us a bit of a complex and just wanting to call it quits, it sometimes does not seem worth the price we are paying for no results. I am a man and men are "trained" to hear no or face rejection from an early age in sexual situations. My wife on the other hand..women don't get turned down that often and it seems to be bothering her more personally than me. I am just tired of spending time e-mailing, sending photos, talking on the phone everything going well and then nothing....Feels like a waste since we are maybe 80/0 that's 80 contacts and 0 encounters. Maybe I am just venting maybe I am curious but what is so difficult in a person saying "thanks but no thanks" and not wasting everyone's time?! The lifestyle has a lot of roots in openness, well we sure are not seeing a lot of that belief in people involved in the lifestyle. We are almost ready to give up on swingers and move over to regular bars and clubs and trying our hand with vanilla's since we have never seen this amount of "snobbery" and "rudeness" with non-lifestyle people. We know that the odd's will be against us with vanilla's but we are venturing to say that at least they will have a laugh and say "sorry I or we don't go that way". For the curious ones no we are not Ken and Barbie but we have all our teeth, we don't chew and spit tobacco at the dinner table (at least not me HA!) and we don't set our expectations high with couples 10 years younger than us or the local gym fitness pinup girl. We are HWP, in our late 30's early 40's and have been told by close friends NOT in the lifestyle that we don't look our age and can go for early to mid 30's. We do send REAL CURRENT photos to these contacts and they continue even after receiving them so it's not that we turn them off visually. WTF ??!! Anyone willing to lend a helping hand and give us some one on one advice? I don't think we are doing anything wrong but maybe we are. I feel like I am running out of time here, my wife was really getting into the lifestyle idea but I just say idea since we have only had one encounter.That was 5 years ago BEFORE we considered ourselves in the lifestyle. It was a vanilla friend of ours and it just happened, we were not out there looking for it. With all this negative energy she is seeing she is starting to lose interest in even trying, she is no longer interested in sending out e-mails to people and tell's me to handle it.
  8. In her poll, Julie asked about faking orgasms and MagicEnigma brought up the idea of "exaggerating" orgasms...wondering what the numbers would be for that. Interesting, I thought. So, that's the question...for both men and women...have you ever exaggerated an orgasm?
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