Ever tempted to get pregnant on purpose when swinging?

[neil1]

Well we did it. When we went out of city to meet with a guy bareback in order for her to get pregnant we went right on her fertile time. Her pregnancy test came back positive! She is pregant. We will not tell the doctor anything about it except that I am the father. And who knows.....I may be the father. My wife had sex with the man 6 times with me in the room and I always followed up with sex right afterwards to get my sperm mingled up in there. But have to tell you the sexual rush you get seeing a man having sex with your wife in order to get her pregnant......When it was my turn I have never been harder when I entered her. Now the deed is done. And we are going to have a child....

[fredandwilma200]

To be honest, it seems kind of soon to tell. I know I was almost three weeks pregnant before we knew! I think that this sounds alittle "fishy" I dont think that in three days you would be able to tell!

[Spoomonkey]

Well - if you did it then all we can do is wish you the best. For the sake of the baby who is getting the short end of a really short stick... For your wife who we all hope came away with nothing but a little extra DNA... For the single guy who will never know that he is a father... And for you who seems completely unable to listen to good sense. In the end, this is a trait that may haunt you the rest of your life. Again - if it is true - I am sure we all hope that the numerous problems that you are selfishly putting so many at risk for never come back and bite you guys in the ass.

Personally, I am hoping that FredandWilma are right and this has all been a bit of a hoax...

Spoomonkey

[chickadiva]

I'm with FredandWilma on this one....if the dates "Neil" gave are correct, it is too soon for her to be pregnant from those sexual acts. I am not saying she's not pregnant, just that this escapade with the unknowing donor isn't the actual conception.

There are plenty of sources out there (ovusoft, fertility friend, TCOYF), but I can tell you from my own research and experience it takes anywhere from 3-8 DAYS beyond ovulation and fertilization for the egg to implant into the uterus...and it is impossible to determine the exact moment of ovulation, hence the 12-24hr. "window" of egg life often quoted. (oh, and for those of you that don't know it sperm can live anywhere from hours to up to 5 days inside a woman, depending upon her cervical fluid status...so you can have sex on Wednesday yet "conceive"/fertilize on Saturday) It's isn't until after implantation that HCG is produced. That is the hormone you are looking for when you "pee on a stick"! It's also what they look for in the blood test. That is why most early pregnancy tests say they are good as soon as day of missed period or three days prior, etc. <End of Fertility Lesson for the Day >

So, if she's preggers y'all miss calculated ovulation and either Neil or ??? (yet again someone else?) is the father.

I think someone is trying to raise our collective blood pressure!


~M

[Elusive BiFem]

Yep, chickadiva and fredandwilma...I'm with ya'll on this one. I don't know anything about *'birthin no babies* but I did look this up and I'm just not buying this quick pregnancy thng. Of course, there is the possibility a blood test was done, but since he said they "will" tell the doctor....that statement sort of indicates they have not talked to the doctor. Nope...I'm skeptical. Neil? Are you playing with us? Gotta admit...your comments stirred up some good discussion.

- EBF

HCG is measured in thousandths of International Units, or mIU. The most sensitive pregnancy tests can detect hCG levels at as low as 20 mIU. This level of hCG is present in the urine of pregnant women at about 8 days after conception - (though conception/implantation can actually take place several days after the last recorded intercourse). Test sensitivity equates with early-detection - and the lower the number, the sooner a test can detect pregnancy.

pregnant, the amount of hCG in your system should be around 25 mIU at 10 dpo (days past ovulation), 50 mIU at 12 dpo, 100 mIU at around two weeks dpo. Blood tests can determine pregnancy as low as between 5 to 10 mIU/hCG, though with levels of 5 mIU, a conclusive determination cannot be made without risking a "false positive" as low levels hCG can be present in the body without pregnancy.

Drugstore pregnancy tests generally detect pregnancy at 50 mIU - 100 mIU hCG, though you can find early-detection pregnancy tests on the Internet with sensitivity levels as low as 20 mIU. With all diagnostic products, take care to follow the instructions.

For earliest detection of pregnancy, use first morning urine, as this urine sample contains the most concentrated amount of hCG. If using first morning urine is not feasible, avoiding urination for several hours before using a pregnancy test.

Besides pregnancy, elevated concentrations of hCG may be found in women with trophoblastic diseases. These conditions should be ruled out in the interpretation of hCG levels to establish a diagnosis of pregnancy.

[yawanna]

I hadn't responded to this thread at ALL due to it's nebulous nature. Who the hell would be involved in swinging and wanting to start a family? Everyone we've known, met, heard about, leaves swinging to do the 'family' thang.
I thought this thread was silly at the very least. Now 'neil' is taking us on a 'we made a baby in all the wrong ways' adventure.

I'll tell ya.. bareback sex isn't an option for anyone but my husband and I with only each other. Ya I know of many single men and even married couples that 'go there' practically begging to get an STD or worse - no way on gawd's green earth would WE ever go there.

*deep breath*

how on earth this thread was given any breath of life is beyond me. Then again, I don't understand quantum physics either. This entire thread is at the least offensive, and at the most a big joke that I don't find funny at all.

end of rant.

[OhioCouple]

Okay... Am I the only one tinking this is perfect fodder for the Maury Povich show? Whoooo's your daddy?!?!? *blah*

Neil1, I must agree with the others. If your posting is based on this prior weekend of having sexual interludes, it would be EXTREMELY hard to have a positive on Monday. Actually, most unlikely. I've two adult children in which they worried about pregnancy in the first couple of days. There was no test that could prove it before they were at least seven days pregnant. As one has a youngster that is just now six months old, hers could not be determined by her physician until she was nine days pregnant. (two tests). The HPT's could not pick it up. Perhaps the HPT kits have changed in the last six months, but I've heard nothing about it.

[midnight hour]

I really haven't followed this thread too much because it sounds like the Twilight Zone..however Mr. Midnight did run into a ad on Swing Lifestyle that stated that birth control was not a concern because they were starting a family soon So I am guessing this couple does not care who the Father is.
On the flip side of this, I remember watching a special on maybe Discovery about how if a woman is having affair out of the marriage that the chances of her having her lovers baby is higher then her married partner. Something about evolution and the constant hunt our bodies do to *trade up* to the stronger DNA..i.e the lover being the stronger one since he is not the normal partner. Was a real interesting watch.


Midnight Hour

[Jocko Johnson]

My wife got pregnant during while swinging. It wasn't a planned thing but we had three kids and I have been fixed. It was my friend who fortunatly has a somewhat similar body type as me. She has already had the baby and it is healthy. It's not as big a deal as everyone is making it. My friend isn't wierd at all, I treat the child the same all all the others (even though he's only 1) and nobody has said anything. It worked out well because my wife was actually kind of wanting a fourth but I was fixed and already had three so I didn't care. Made her happy and it was fun for me. Actually I watched the kids while her and my friend sneaked off the the SUV for some fun when the accident happened. Shouldn't say accident, it's been a blessing.

[hotmelcpl]

While we try not to judge other people as we also don't want to be judged, we think it is fairly exteme to be trying to get pregnant on purpose thru swinging. Our concern mostly would be for the child and any possible future ramifications that could occur that could have a detrimental affect on their life.

If it ever happened to us thru a freaky accident (we take precautions) we would want to ensure that the child was loved and treated no differently to one conceived and planned by us.

hugs

[Chris&Amelia]

Okay, this thread is now officially freaking us out.

[Botcpl]

Jocko

There is a big difference between an accident and deception.

All children should be wanted, loved and brought up in the best environment possible. I think honesty has something to do with that environment.

Several people have mentioned paternity suits and child support from the real father. For the sake of argument, forget that. If it is okay to steal someone's sperm or DNA, then if that doesn't work, is it okay to go to a hospital and steal a newborn?

We are on the verge of a second sexual revolution.

The first resulting from the development of reliable birth control. With the fear of pregnancy removed (well, lessen greatly) women became more sexual. Look at the sexual change in our society in just the last fifty or sixty years.

The second will result from development of DNA tracking or marking. No one will be able to stand are someone's doorstep and say this baby is yours, you have to pay for it with little or no proof. With a simple test (not even a blood test) we will know who the real parents are.

Suppose this couple who stole this DNA decided they couldn't stay married after ten years and split up. The husband has no responsibility for child support. We have hundreds of thousands of deadbeat dads who really are fathers; it would not be so unusual for this guy to "bail" on the kid.

Like I said before, these people are playing with fire.

There is a book called, "The Myth of Monogamy". It is very dry reading but very profound.

P

[neil1]

Well my wife and I couldn't have children so we met with a single male froma different city and she had sex with him for several days..
Afterwards she found out that she was pregant just as we planned. The greatest joy I have ever felt. The sperm doner was fairly like me in looks and will never know that he is the father. We neve rleft an addres or phone for hnim to call back... My wife and I are so happy about this.......

[catherine1962]

I belive it.....I hope you have a happy life Neil.........I have 2 children and we found out very quickly that I was pregnant. My husband and I were trying to pregnant and after having sex a few days later the pregnancy test kit said I was.....I want only the best for Neil and his wife.............

[Elusive BiFem]

Originally Posted by catherine1962

I belive it.....I hope you have a happy life Neil.........I have 2 children and we found out very quickly that I was pregnant. My husband and I were trying to pregnant and after having sex a few days later the pregnancy test kit said I was.....I want only the best for Neil and his wife.............

Is this the same catherine 1962 that posted the thread about the man entering her without a condom...and the deception that involved? And now, you can turn around and say that Neil's wife getting pregnant by an unknowning and assumed unwilling swing partner is just great? No problem?

Sorry, catherine, but it is one thing for a man and wife to be overjoyed at a pregnancy they created in honesty, but it is an entirely different thing to support a person in not only deception, but deception where a human life is concerned. This unknown man had a right to know that he was contributing his DNA to creating 50% of a human life - a life that will pass his genes on maybe forever. And what about the child? Being conceived in deception and living it's entire life in deception? In essence, this child's entire existence will be based upon a lie. Neil is depriving this child of the right to know who he/she is. He/she will never have the opportunity to know more than a true 50% about themself. And you say this is just hunkey-dory?

Personally, I think this is the height of moral repugnance. Not because of the pregnancy alone, but because of the intent to become pregnant under such deceptive circumstances. This is a person you support? One that would use another human being in this manner and allow a life to be created under these circumstances? There are sperm banks out there where men have donated their sperm with full knowledge. They made a choice. Just like you and the condom issue...this "donor" was not allowed a choice. He was violated just as much, IMO, as if he had been raped. An unwilling...at least uninformed organ donor.

I wish the best for the child, but as for Neil and his partner in what I think of as a moral crime, I don't. In my opinion, they are lower than pond scum.

- EBF