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I'm going to have to disagree with the idea that 10 minutes can destroy a marriage (at least in this case). This was consensual act. Nobody cheated on anybody. There wasn't a protracted affair, there wasn't even a drunken hookup with a stranger. This was a consensual situation. That the husband withdrew after it, and kept refusing overtures to talk things through, and wouldn't go for counseling? Sorry, the only reason the 10 minutes mattered is because the husband intentionally torpedoed the marriage. There's a lot more going on here than we know about. This 10 minutes was but a symptom of much larger situations. I mean seriously...how many of us would give up on a marriage after just 10 minutes of problem? Are we THAT uncommitted to making it work? Or did the "...for worse." part not mean anything? No marriage is perfect. It takes time and effort. Being able (much less willing) to walk away from it all after just 10 minutes shows a serious lack of commitment to the marriage. I think this marriage would have ended anyway, just due to another supposed reason.

Something else to blame on my parents. Waiting to tell my shrink about this.

We have never been to either of the two Desires. However, from talking to various people, some love Desire, others love Hedo. We are all entitled to our opinion. Experiences may vary depending on the group, who you meet, the weather, etc. While there are comments online about single males at Hedo, honestly it is mostly couples. We personally have never had any bad experiences with single males at Hedo. Most everyone you meet there is very respectful. Of course, there can always be exceptions. There is never any pressure for public sex or random hook ups at Hedo, but opportunities exist to do pretty much want you are into sexually there. There are 280 rooms at Hedo, so it is hard to say what may go on behind closed doors, but in 22 trips, I have not witnessed male gay activity in public. You can make a vacation to Hedo whatever you want it to be. You can sit on the clothing optional beach in your swimming suit and read novels on your iPad. Or, you can get naked, party like a rock star, and engage in whatever sexual activity you choose. Depending on the groups that are there, you may see oral sex by the pools or hot tubs, but intercourse is mostly in the rooms or playrooms. As I mentioned above, the best part of Hedo in my opinion is the awesome people you meet there. As they say, "Once you go you know".

Didn’t know where to post this thought I had when I read about the fear of wife leaving for another woman she met alone. This may not pertain to all here. SEX is for Fun. We were not looking for love or romantic relationships. Think most here agree with that. We talked and talked and talked before taking that first step of just looking. We Love US. Forgive my ramble. Rocky plays guitar and sings but he’s no Dave Matthews. We will go to a concert but I will listen to Rocky for the rest of life. Rocky is extremely funny and witty yet we go to listen to many comedians who are hysterical. We both are pretty good cooks and then we go to restaurants. We still hire plumbers, electricians, gardeners and other tradesmen though we are capable to fix things. The pandemic gave us time to again talk and that led to a curiosity. I don’t consider myself Bisexual, others will say I fit a definition. That curiosity brought me to act out not change my preference. Possibly it was the rebel in me that had me go against what society says is wrong, what religion says is wrong. I can’t say if it was the openness of same sex relationships on TV and movies that made me curious. We made a decision together knowing I was taking a new step and Rocky would likely have sex with another woman. I brought up him having sex with a man that he had no interest in doing. I didn’t push him, we just talked about it. I wanted to fulfill a fantasy not find a lover. I wanted to have fun and I had fun. We had fun together with a couple and I had a number of firsts. That first time led to a first time with a friend and her husband. This was about sexual fun not anything more. I also had sex alone with my girlfriend with the husbands knowing. We did the same things alone as we did with the husbands watching. Back to the post about leaving your spouse after having sex without him being there, IT’S NOT HAPPENING.

We don't regret the crazy things we did. We regret the things that we didn't do when we had the opportunity.

I enjoy reading books, mysteries, historical fiction, or books with recommendations. I joined an online book club that a friend told me about. The club from what I can see is predominantly women though I do see posts from a handful of men. The club is very broad based with members across the country and even worldwide. There was a post from someone who suggested a smaller group where we could Zoom once a week and discuss a book. A book would be suggested and agreed upon by the all women group, all living in a tri-county NY area. The membership were all strangers to me, the only connection being the larger book group. We ended up with 20 women at first, a few dropped out, a few added as friends of other members. Just before the holidays someone mentioned getting together in person as a group, it would be nice to have a better idea of people we never met. We put off the meeting to after New Years, finally meeting last week when a few of us had a day off from work. Ten women met at a quiet room at a country club where one woman is a member. It was very nice and more of a get to know meeting, not a book discussion. It seemed most women knew at least one other, I knew nobody. I introduced myself and started talking to someone deeply tanned, the conversation went towards her a recent vacation. I told her we wanted to go somewhere warm but have been holding off travel. I think I was asking too much about a trip from a stranger because she became vague about the name of the hotel. Her and her friend were laughing when I asked about the resort. When our group was leaving and making plans to meet again my new friend and her friend approached me and said she went to a lifestyle resort, asking me if I know what that is. I asked Hedo? I said I never went but heard of it. I said it would be interesting, not saying much more. Her friend said if I wanted to know more about it we could meet for lunch without the other women and tell me all about it. I know I turned colors. She apologized but I said I would like to meet them. Yesterday I got a call with an invitation to meet one night this week. I don’t know how open I should be with them, I don’t know much about them. I knew even less about the first couple we met from a hook up site. I still haven’t shared that we have met others, I only said I was interested in hearing about Hedo.

That's been my experience too. I'm really hot to lick and suck her pussy when it's full of our comingled juices, but after calming g down after cumming, the desire wanes. Commonly I go down on her anyway and the results are always lovely. I love the taste of her pussy when it's all swollen and sloppy. I like to kiss her after that but it's not something she loves.

Disappointed not seeing the follow up post. Was the book a mystery or just the first in a series? What Happened?

I love licking my come off a woman's breasts. It took me many years to try it, though. The first time was with a girlfriend (I was divorced). I was about 39 years old. We were having a long sex session one evening. We both did oral (she orgasmed, I waited), then we fucked. I was close to coming, and decided I'd like to try licking my come off her breasts. I told her that and she liked the idea. I was on top of her, so I pulled out and masturbated to climax. I shot all over her breasts and stomach. I rubbed my come into her breasts—I love how come looks on breasts!—and with a little trepidation, dived in. I liked it! After that relationship, I met Ms. Geo. I've had the pleasure of licking my come off her breasts many times. The first was in a private hot tub that we were lucky to have to ourselves one night. We had done a lot of foreplay in the water, some oral with each of us sitting on the edge, and some fucking, though sex in the water of a hot tub isn't the best. I sat on the edge again and she gave me a blow job. When I was close to coming, I pulled her up and came on her breasts. She rose out of the water some more and I greedily licked my come off her. Moving off-topic a bit, I'll share that I am not shy about tasting my come in other instances. When I have masturbated, I've often tasted my precome. The ladyfriends in my life have tasted it often, so why shouldn't I? And I love kissing a woman after she's had my cock in her mouth. I can't taste my precome that way, but the thought of kissing a woman who's just had me in her mouth is a turn on. And that leads me to one other thing: giving oral to a woman after coming in her pussy. I've done that with Ms. Geo. I decided that I wanted to try it. Yes, indeed. So one time while having sex with her, I was excited by the thought and really wanted to do it. But after my orgasm, the desire was gone. Poof! So I didn't do it. The same thing happened the next time we had sex—wanted to do it, but didn't want to after my orgasm. The next time, I decided I'd do it no matter what. Yes, the desire was weak after my orgasm, but I just did it anyway. And I liked it! I've had male friends tell me that they'd never taste their own come, that their partners would have to brush their teeth after a BJ before kissing them again. So I know it's not for everyone. But for me, it's a wonderful thing.

Well it seems men do! They seem to be the only ones interested in penis pictures. Just look at the comments on any penis pic you see online. Almost all of them are from men. We have never personally met any women that care about penis size or pictures. If the guy isn’t attractive, in decent shape and has a good attitude they could care less about his package.

Thank you ! Glad to see some people get it

I am sorry that this is how this story ends. I agree strongly with those saying the ten minutes aren't the problem. I don't know either of you, but people often attempt swinging to save a troubled relationship. It is possible that your husband had already become profoundly unhappy in some part of his mind, but still wanted a way to make the marriage work. The failure cemented his unhappiness and he came to an unpleasant realization that he has given up. This is not necessarily a reflection on you at all. Sometimes people simply change with time and misinterpret what they are failing, or take drastic measures to try to avoid confronting it.

Most of us on here if truthful will say the first time was not great physically and orgasms were not to be. My first was awkward and fumbly and painful. I also worried about getting pregnant after he had problems with the condom. I was ready to do it, wanted to do it, was scared to do it. I was told it could hurt and bleed and went as far as having an old towel under me. I really liked him, had been with him a few times and had first played through clothes. Oral was only one way don’t think he knew. We had stopped the time before because of pain from his using his hand. Finally I told him to do it and not stop, I most likely was biting my lip then screamed, he stopped but had already came and then realized the condom came off. Young love we dated a few months. We did it a number of times when we found his or my parents weren’t home. I don’t remember having a real orgasm with him even though we both enjoyed the making out.

Me too. My husband loves when I give him a bj and I love hearing that sexy little growl, he lets out when I take his whole cock in my mouth and suck and swallow at the same time, until I make him come in my mouth. I always swallow like a good wife. But, one of my biggest turn-offs is the thought of gagging and vomiting during a bj. Which is why I don't want to go down on some other man.

This post got me interested in two things 1. Book Clubs. Debbie belongs to an online book club just to give her recommendations for books. Never thought of it as a lifestyle meeting site. 2. Hedonism resorts. I think our friends have gone to adults only resort. I thought it was a resort with no children not a lifestyle place.

Glad it was nice, hopefully you've got a new friend... BUT. You do know that there are like 1000 people waiting to hear how this progresses.

I agree with him. Relax and enjoy new friends with knowing you are just meeting to get to know her. You’re not going to have sex, she may not be looking for anything more than lunch and book talk. Just because she said she went to a resort doesn’t mean she wants to jump into every person’s bed. You met her because of a book, not a sex site. Don’t overthink things, let her bring up the subject or her vacations stories, don’t push it. If things go further later on you will know if it’s right. Let me know if you want any advice, I’m always available 😄

Unfortunately the world is full of hate, lies, and very judgmental. I’m a pragmatist and understand the real life and what people say. I can only wonder what people I know would think if they knew how close I’ve become to my friend. She is the only one who I’m close enough to tell my real feelings. I trust her enough to be with my husband, I told her I was with a woman which led us to be together too. I’m looking forward to meeting with my new friend and being truthful to her. It will be hard to be open, my ingrained fear of being outed in my community. I have to have trust in a stranger.

I wonder what the world would be like if everyone truly opened up their hearts, spoke their truth, and shared their lives honestly, no judgement, no fear. It seems to me that this is a great time and place to do just that. How wonderful to start a relationship with others in complete honesty and openness. Do what is comfortable and I hope they become life long friends.

Have drinks, ask questions, learn about the lifestyle. You could just be a curious person, fascinated by others choices. You don't need to disclose or commit to anything other than an interest in what a lifestyle resort is, what type of folks attend, what goes on there, etc. They may ask how you heard of Hedo - which you should have an answer for without going deeper. It's hard to get outed if all you've done is had drinks with 2 book club ladies.

They might be reading these posts as well! I think it's great that they were open with you and are inviting you into their circle. It seems to me that they are cautious and respectful with others in the group and that is a positive. For some reason, they felt a good vibe from you and opened up. I'm guessing they will continue to be careful with their conversations. If it was us, we'd join for drinks, maintain a bit of reserve and see what unfolds. Could be the best connection you'll make all year. Enjoy.

Been reading your responses regarding what’s right or wrong, you are too opinionated when you have no experience. Like others I wonder what your agenda is. Are you preaching on the sins of the mind? Swinging involves letting you and a partner enjoy others not just you. 100% I would want my friend finish off my wife, I get to do that everyday. Unless you are comfortable with that you should not swing and should not make statements on other’s wants.

Thank you. Even the D guys are curious about what I have under my shirt.

That sounds wonderful, while I like all titties, A’s & B’s are my most favorite.

Lionheart, we've had our shares of night's like that at the club. In fact, it isn't rare that we'll find a foursome at the club (or we've prearranged one) and an hour or two after we leave the room Mary will announce she's randy again. The solution: Find a single guy. There's always a few hanging out at 1:00 in the morning.

I was in a relationship with an experienced lady lover who demanded pleasure. If I came prematurely having vaginal intercourse she would push me down below the sheets and make me go down on her to lick up my come and tongue her to orgasm.

I've done this. She likes when I get so lost that I can do it. So no big deal just cleaning up the mess on her 36d's while she looks down and watches. So hot

We've discussed it before but I'll NEVER get the whole "cumming inside" thing in swinger sex, where the visual performance is generally one of the primary considerations. IMO, there is nothing hotter than cumming on 2 pretty faces who then proceed to passionately make-out with each other and my cum/cock. If I'm pulled into kiss a woman whose face I just came upon, I'm not turning that down, no way. My cum, fine - another man's nah, that ain't my thing.

The range of answers is what I figured would result on this topic. I've never been shy about tasting my own cum. Sometimes when I'm not ready to cum, I pull out and can stop a full orgasm, there is a fair amount of leakage...I'll drip it on Mrs pussy and lick it all off. Then we'll kiss while I re-enter her. I've also kissed her many times after she took it in her mouth. I actually don't find the taste to be that bad. It is nowhere near as delicious as a woman's pussy but I don't find it bad. From my perspective, we're in this lifestyle to experience things we cannot do when it is just the two of us. Tasting another man's cum is obviously something we can't do by ourselves. I wouldn't have an issue doing it. How is another question. I love watching Mrs in all types of situations. Heck, if it came down to it and I had to watch only, I would. It would be her decision to let a guy cum on her, but not something I would want to watch. I find cumming on a woman's face, tits, etc as kind of degrading and wouldn't want the Mrs part of that.

Well, I've had enough time in between several anal penetrations that I think I can answer (despite only once being first :-) On my belly, with one leg pulled up seemed to open me the most easily. Cowboy gives the most control (since you are really fucking yourself), and is a fave. I do like plain old doggie. What really made the diff is a bit of practice, work out with a dildo and/or buttplug a few days before the anticipated time. If I do that, i can take it right in and just go with it. No take-it-easy start. If I don't, then the first few minutes can be a bit difficult. As a result I never go unprepped! Enjoy, getting butt fucked is a true joy! I've never come harder that I do getting reamed.

I am curious if anyone has tried the mmf position where the male is in the middle? One male would be getting penetrated by other male while he is penetrating a woman. I wonder if it's practical and what positions are possible. I'm really curious to feel what it's like to have a cock inside me while mine is inside my wife.

Our Dungeon We are curious to see yours ...

My guy is a bottom only so I can control him. I like to 69 with him on top while the stud behind fucks his ass. I get a great view and can punish my guy's balls if he balks at getting fucked. I bite down on his balls and pull forcing him to hold still to be Impaled. I love big cocks fucking my guy's ass. I made a deal that if we swing then he has to take dick for me which is a hot turn-on. He is an excellent pussy eater even when getting his ass fucked. I also like sitting on his face holding his legs high in the air while the stud fucks his ass so I can see his cock rise and fall or even come as he is fucked. I bring my strap-on to the party and bend the stud over to balance things out.

No we haven't done it yet. We always talk about the possibility of how hot could be to have my wife 69 me while I suck on her clit while she is getting filled from behind. I think it's very hot.

I have written about my experiences before. Our first time swinging we were in different rooms. We met a couple on a cruise and we swapped spouses. I went to their cabin, my husband stayed in our cabin with the wife. That night was fabulous. It was the first time with someone other than my husband since we got married. I can say we made love. I know have taken exception to that comment. We did make love with kissing, touching and sex. It's not that I did anything new or much different than I do with my husband, it was different because he was different. Looking back, and memories do change, I was totally comfortable kissing and having sex with this new friend. I didn't think about my husband or what he might be doing in our cabin. It was much different when we had sex with them in the same room. My new partner changed. In front of my husband and his wife we had sex. It felt detached and more like putting on a show. The romantic oral from the night before was replaced with him having sex with my mouth. When he entered me the long sensual strokes were gone. I also saw my husband watching us as he was getting a blow job. It just wasn't the same. Even though we have been in same room situations since and I have become more comfortable with it, I still prefer different rooms.

An equal balance of MMF or MFM allows my husband and I to share. We both started with FMF and FFM, that's where our love of Peach juice came in, but when we bet MFMF or MMFF or MFFM or FMMF an ogry is our secret love over the last 13 years. Lubricants with sweat leads to all sorts of oral-genital-anal variety an a room filled with mattresses, or outdoors in the summer.

You've never tried canned Peach juice? Get some canned peaches (pears not as oily), and use the juice to pour over your lover(s) bodies, and the taste is amazing, especially on large cocks, but I love rimming more asses with the juice. A bottle of Olive Oil is good too, but not as sweet.

Peach Juice??

Good lord this is making me wish my hubby was even a little bicurious. Nothing to add except to say HOT!!!! Wish I was a fly on the wall ;-)

My first ever mfm the woman and I did a 69 while her husband fucked her from behind. We almost had to peel her off the ceiling. Just a thought.

It didn't do much for me but my husband said it was amazing being the middle (he also tried at the end). We also used a pillow underneath my hips which help with the positioning. The hardest part was the thrusting. If you don't get in the right rhythm, it's easy to slip out of the middle guy. It was easier with only the middle guy moving back and forth while everyone staying put. I would suggest trying this first before thrusting in unison, which takes a few tries. Good luck!

We have done it too using the position described by JandKinBoise. We have also done it with Jo lying on her front and being fucked doggy style. Brian has been both the guy in the middle and the guy bringing up the rear (pun intended!). It is a wonderful experience for all three parties although getting into the proper rhythm for the the guys to thrust in harmony together can be a bit tricky. If you haven't tried it you should.

We've done it several times but I've never been the guy in the middle. A few years ago we were seeing 2 guys that both liked anal so it seemed to be a natural thing to do. We only used one position. My wife and the guy would start missionary (it helps to have a pillow under her butt). I would come in from behind. It isn't the easiest position. One has to be mindful of any weight he is adding to the stack. I found it to the be a balancing act to some extent. Both guys admitted that it was the most amazing sexual feeling they had ever experienced. J actually loved it as well. As I pushed into him, he would be pushed into her, she said it was like I was fucking her with his big dick. I say go for it! I've seen porn where everyone is on their side. We just aren't built for that position, even with just the 2 of us.

I don't know how practical it is because we have never done it, but the wife wants us to try this really bad. Don't know if I'm ready for that yet.

Sirramm - thanks so very much. This is getting more and more helpful. We needed some clearer direction and you guys are making a lot of sense. Several pm's have helped me understand better where my husband is coming from as well. That is what I am talking about! Not only do I want to suck several cocks with my husband and have them cum in and on us I truly want to see him get his hot tight tiny little hole get fucked. It drives me crazy with desire. I have discovered that not only do I want this to take place but I want it to take place among a group of couples so everyone can watch, help, and do him more. I have been able to “F” him anally up to 5 times with him taking over at this juncture continuing 8-9 times more via three fingers, larger dildos, large wall toys, and strap=ons attached to the furniture or my legs. I figure he could handle at least 5 guys or more and several strap-on to boot. Sure, the group thing it farfetched so the hunt it on for one or two couples I can trust in the area. The group that we know are too closely acquainted with other people we are close with so it makes sense that my husband is not so comfortable giving it up among them. The sex I am hoping for has nothing to do with dominant or being submissive for me or my husband. It is simply something I find super-hot and would like to share with the man of my dreams. I already know how much he loves anal penetration, so why not the real thing. I know how much more amazing it feels to have a real penis pulsing cum inside me anally and I’d love to share this experience with a man I know would truly appreciate it. Also after all our years of marriage and all the cum play I have been able to get my husband to participate in (and enjoy – lol), there is something to be said about taking it directly from the source! I love the feel of a beautiful penis in my mouth and I believe he will equally enjoy it. He is already past the difficult part – the cum. Thanks - Male4ypleasure It is nice to hear about other wives out there who loved seeing their husbands get fucked anally and want to be there for even more. I welcome you to message me and let me know how they all reacted, participated, what they said or commented on, how verbal they got, etc. Again – thanks so very much Male4ypleasure & Sirramm.

I really got turned on reading these posts. I have played with three couples seeking straight mfm initially. In all three cases on subsequent play dates they asked if I would mind if the husband orally shared my hard cock with his wife. I really enjoy having my cock sucked and readily agreed. In all three cases after several play dates with extended mm oral foreplay the wife shared her ultimate fantasy was to watch her husband lose his cherry. I have always enjoyed anal & dp's, and agreed to fulfill their fantasy. In all three cases I had the husband get on all fours and orally pleasure his wife while I slowly took his cherry. All three were very submissive and really got turned on. Needless to say I pleasured both husband and wife on all subsequent play dates. Male4ypleasure

What a story! Got hard just reading it. When I first got into anal with other guys, I really thought only topping was for me. Fucking a tight ass (male or female is amazing). However, the Hornier I got thinking about being the submissive one, the more I wanted to try bottom too. I was already great at cock sucking and I thought, "I might as well suck and then get fucked". The whole role reversal of not being the dominant male during sex was interesting to me. First time I got fucked was during a MMF with a couple. Bi oral hubby who happened to be topping for the first time ever too. Once the slow insertion changed to fast pumps and I got used to the 7 in thick dick in my ass, I wondered why I hadn't done this before. Doggie style, on top riding with him jerking me, and the basic missionary (my legs in the air) we both tried that night and what fun it was!! I LOVE being on all fours, getting pounded and my hard dick swinging fast.

my wife just loves me cumming on her tits and massaging it all over her breasts then licking it all off and then kissing to share the taste and getting aroused for round 2

Well As far as on the tits well Red prefers for the cum to be inside her, and I love eating her out after this happens whether it my cum or someone else's. But in this case her juices are flowing so well it the main thing in the mixture. As for the original question I can see my self doing it but only after massaging it onto her tits for awhile then sucking and licking them clean again. What ever make Red happy I am fine with. At least so far there has been nothing that has bothered me.

There are those nights where ANYTHING goes Teresa