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Hello, My wife and I have been swingers for the last 15 years. We don't usually try to swing or have sex with vanilla friends, but sometimes the subject of hot-tubbing comes up. For the most part and like many swingers, we hate going in the tub with clothes on, but how do we tell our friends that we'd rather we all go naked. We find this to be a deal breaker and sometimes and people just shy away from the idea of being in the tub naked with us. The thought of being naked in the tub with Vanilla friends turns us on, even if we don't intend to play or cross the line. Please help!! Maple Cpl in Ontario.

We like the Red Rooster Although we haven't been to the RR for a while, I haven't heard of any bad news about it. Fri and Sat are best, more people, plus during the week it is mostly locals who all seem to know each other. It is non-stress environment. Downstairs is couples and singles. Dance floor/DJ, group room, and some private rooms. You can just enjoy or go for more when comfortable. They have bouncers so if anyone is being a jerk they are thrown out right away. Bring your own liquor, they put it behind the bar and serve you they provide the mixers. Tip them a dollar or two each time. That is all the people make. If you bring beer it should be in cans, broken glass is not good. Upstairs is couples only (only open on Fri and Sat nights, I think). There are couches, and two bedrooms, when you go into those bedrooms you must be naked. They have a place to stuff your clothes. They had problems before when those room would fill with gawkers, so by making all get naked that stopped. When you get to the RR they have lockers, bring your lock or rent one to place street clothes, valuables, phone, etc. I just place some dollar bills (for tips) in my pockets and not worry about anything. Red Rooster Las Vegas Swinger's Club & Lifestyle Club We are planning on being there Sept 30th

We will find out in two months. In October my wife and I are heading to St Martin for our 25th anniversary and will be staying just off Orient Beach. Other than a few visits to a club and a quick walk around Little Beach in Maui, we have not been around public nudity that much. I am curious to see how I react to it as I grew up in a very conservative household. I personally am very open minded, easy going, and non-judgmental, but there are times when my conservative upbringing flashes back at me so it should be interesting to see how things work out.

We tend to avoid labels. Attractive and willing means a whole lot more to us than your religion, ethnicity or address. We've never had an experience with an Arab couple but neither have we had an experience with a Romanian couple. We wouldn't rule out either on the basis of their country of origin. Advice: Get on an international swingers website, maybe SDC, put up a profile with representative photos and use the "hot date" section to post where you're going to travel and when and what you're looking for. If the picture next to your post actually IS Mrs Arabmejo, you'll have to beat the offers off with a stick.

from Oklahoma, Newbie! That's a great question and you'll get lots of answers. The chapter, "A Rich Adventure," is how my late wife and I did it. It's in the free sample of our novel below. Make new friends. Decide how open they are. If they're not, move on and wait for the right combination happens, whether it be a couple or lone male. Good luck to y'all in your adventure together!

We have a hot tub in our basement which of course we always use in the nude when we are alone. On several occasions vanilla friends have commented on the fact that we have a hot tub and we have responded by asking them if they would like to enjoy a soak. They invariably say they would like to but can't because they do not have their swimsuits with them. That is our cue to explain that we do not allow swimsuits to be worn in the tub for the reason that others have mentioned, i.e. the detergent problem. For some people that is the end of the matter but for others it has not been a problem. We have provided them with towels and asked them to shower before joining us in the tub. We make a point of being in the tub ourselves when they join us because that seems to be more comfortable for them. They usually adjust to their nudity quite quickly and it is often the case that we will continue to socialize in our birthday suits after we have come out of the tub. Of course when we have vanilla friends who are nudists over there is no problem at all!

You say you don't intend to cross any lines, but you also say you get excited by going in the tub naked with your friends being naked. In my mind by requiring people to be naked in order to enjoy your hot tub, you are asking them to provide you with a sexual charge, whether or not you actually try to touch them. People will pick up on that and feel a bit pressured. If going naked makes them uncomfortable, and you give them the choice of "go naked or don't go", then I don't think that's very nice. Many people aren't comfortable being naked in front of others. The question is, what's more important, your minor sexual charge (which you are getting as a result of their nakedness) or your guests' comfort? If you have a real problem with detergents, etc. and you don't feel you can abide clothes in the hot tub for that reason, then tell your friends that, and offer them the opportunity to enjoy the tub for a few minutes without you in it if they are shy. But if the detergent is not the real reason, and your deal is "to go in the hot tub you have to show me your tits and pussy", well, that's just not on in my opinion.

Is it an actual rule of yours to not allow people to wear cloths into the hot tub or do you simply like to be naked in the tub yourself? If it is a rule, there are going to be a lot of people that are simply not going to agree with the rule and choose to not join you. If it isn't an actual rule you can just say that "clothing is optional" and the choice is up to them. A lot of vanillas will hot tub nude and there are swingers that don't. Nude hot-tubbing and swinging are not synonymous. Some people are never going to be comfortable naked in front of other people but many others will do it as long as they feel safe and non-threatened. Is there any possibility that these people that refused were feeling threatened or encroached? Could they have been feeling that you were going to try to get them into some kind of sexual situation?

There are technical reasons to not allow swimsuits in hot tubs, the main one is that detergent is still in the suit after washing and it will cause the spa to foam up. I have a number of t-shirts that are completely rinsed, they can wear those if they like. But the majority of the time, those that don't want to go nude and wear the t-shirt, soon shuck the t-shirt. Just let it be known and let them choose, it isn't a big deal unless you make it one. My daughters have been in the hot tub nude, no biggie. And they aren't swingers (as far as I know anyway).

We've had many vanilla friends in our hot tub naked. It really is not that difficult for the vanilla world to understand nudity in a hot tub. There are many nude beaches, and most nudists aren't swingers. Another approach is to say that you go naked in your own hot tub but they can wear whatever they feel comfortable in. Plenty of times we've been naked while less adventurous folk wear a suit. Nudity and sexuality are not one and the same. I hate going swimming or to jump in a hot tub with clothes on. Fortunately we have our own hot tub, and there are many nude beaches in Vermont. There's even a gorgeous state park with a nude beach. The rangers often stop and chat with the nude beach goers. They're in their uniforms and we're starkers.