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Absolutely right. We'd like to play maybe once a week, but with the reality of what goes on in real life, it's luck to be once a month at best. And yes, it's improved our relationship & sex life, but we still have those weeks, where what goes on day to day still pushes out sex life aside. Can't see that that will ever change. There will always be the days that are overworked, requirements with children, and like this last week or so the impending arrival of a new grandchild for MrsZ, something that has created considerable worry for quite some time. Swinging or not those sort of things don't go away.

I can understand some of your angst... But don't believe the internet, a swinger couple isn't boinking all the time. We have the same crap going on in our lives as all other people. There are the 20% of folks who do 60-70% of the action, with the other 80% doing the balance. Not everyone is independently wealthy and able to put their faces front and center for ads and complaining that people need to show their faces - some of us have vanilla friends, family, an d employers who wouldn't understand swinging or open relationships. Unsure of you and your wife's ages, but change doesn't happen overnight. Do what's best for you but don't look back unless to be the best person you can be if you're a father. Also don't be surprised if your leaving then flips a switch in your wife's psyche and she could blossom into a person you didn't ever know before.

Counseling. Get counseling. If you love her don't throw it away yet. The way you describe her it sounds like she has issues that she needs to work on and then the two of you need to work on. If there is no love then it's up to you as to what to do.

Uh... Swinging and open marriages are not the cure all/fix all that some people envision them to be. Before anything else can happen, there first must be trust, love and open communication. All of those take time to build and develop. Once that is in place, you most likely will have a great relationship even if you don't swing. Anyways, welcome to the board and take your time with your decisions. The grass is always greener but sometimes that green is just because of the huge amount of fertilizer that they are dumping on it.

Welcome to the board! You know, you'd be amazed at how much you can do with an "unworkable" relationship. Mr. intuition and I were on the divorce bubble ourselves, but the dream relationship you described is exactly what we've grown between us now. Counseling is an excellent idea. And I'd suggest giving her a wake-up call. You can let her know that you're seriously thinking of taking her up on her suggestion for a divorce, not because of her reluctance to let you fuck other people, but because you need a partner who is brave and honest enough to be able to handle the real you. Her inability to communicate - or rather her refusal to do so - is a deal breaker for you, so either she gets over her fight or flight bullshit and puts on her big-girl pants for adult discussion, or you have to leave. Because life is way too short to spend it with someone who makes you sad. Sorry, I can be a little blunt. I do hope you can work some things out! I was very reluctant to get into the lifestyle myself at first; now I can't say enough about it. I also came from a pretty fundamental Christian background, so I know how that is. Like I said, it's amazing how much we can evolve, if we allow ourselves to.

She is afraid. She is jealous. She recognizes your frustration and she wants to give you and outlet. She wants to be "fair" but she isn't completely comfortable with this. That doesn't sound like a real hall pass to me... more like a live grenade. In my not-so-humble opinion, you need to suck it up, jerk off and be with your wife.

Welcome to the forum, lonelyhedonist. And that is quite the introduction...thank you for sharing it with us. As for your question, I don't think it's unrealistic but it might be difficult to find. The majority of people are still in a monogamous mind-set so finding someone who is not in that frame of mind can be difficult in itself. Then, there are those who are non-monogamous but aren't bisexual or open to it. However, even if you do find this dream girl, being in a successful, committed, open, loving, respectful, trusting, and communicative relationship doesn't happen overnight. It will take time. It will take work from both you and her to work at it. A lot of swinger couples are together for decades before they are ready to embark on their swinging journey together. For them, it took all of those decades of being together and build that relationship foundation in order for them to get to a place where they can be open sexually about each other's fantasies and desires. Some things just can't be rushed. Life experiences, the ups and downs, that the couples has gone through together showed them that they were there for each other. They were able to see each other at their best and worst. They deepened their trust and love for each other during those times. Whether you and your wife get a divorce is between the two of you. Is there such a big enough gap that you two can't try to work through it and make it better? Have you talked to her about why she gets depressed after having sex? Perhaps her revulsion at having an open marriage doesn't stem from the concept but from the disconnect that she might be feeling from you. That is just speculation on my part. The only person that knows is her and as her husband, you both should be able to talk about these sorts of issues. If not, then these are the sorts of skills that every relationship needs to acquire in order to be successful. Even if you move on and find another woman to be with, the ability to communicate open and honestly, yet tactfully and respectfully, is paramount in being in a relationship long-term.

My beautiful wife and I only had one real swinger experience, a hotel date with a nice couple. Last Friday evening, more or less out of the blue, MsD surprised both me and that same couple, by suggesting to book a nice hotel in the south of the Netherlands. Everyone agreed that this was an exiting and good idea. Saturday morning the reservation for two luxurious hotel rooms in a romantic hotel deep in the forest were made. The rest of the morning and afternoon we were busy buying wine, drinks and snacks. Packing our luggage, including the nicest lingerie and underwear we had. And all kinds of candles, oil, toys. Shaving, showering and dressing. When the afternoon came to an end, we drove to the hotel. It was slowly getting dark. While driving through a light drizzle, we giggled and laughed a lot. We told each other what we thought could happen, asked each other about the limits we had. Which was not much, besides single-room-swinging. We both hoped it would lead to a full-swap, but we also knew at this point soft-swap was the limit for the other couple. Meanwhile, as I was driving, MsD kept contact with the other couple with Whatsapp. They already were there, having a dinner nearby. After 45 minutes we left the highway and through forests and small towns we arrived at the hotel. We had a very nice room, right next to the room of the other couple. We met and it was so nice to see them again. In the hotel bar, we found a table in the corner. We had a few drinks and lots of small talk about holidays, redecorating, birthdays etc. to break the ice. But it was obvious the other wife, A., was already excited about what could happen. We paid our bill and we all went to our room. I lit some candles and dimmed the lights. All four sat on the bed, fully clothed. Looked to each other, a bit of a awkward moment. I remembered A. mentioned she had some back pain from decorating her home, I offered to massage her shoulders and started to rub them while I was kneeling behind her. On that cue, MsD started to rub H.'s back as well. Ms. A. moaned softly as I rubbed and caressed her neck and shoulders and after a while she removed her shirt to make it easier for me to massage her back. I looked at MsD and she was now massaging H.'s lower back with some oil. I asked her a bit of oil too and after warming the oil in the cup of my hand, I started to massage A.'s back from her shoulders, neck to her lower back too. I asked if it all was still okay, she moaned "yes, lovely". As I sat behind her, I reached for her cleavage and started to rub the oil on the soft skin of her breasts too. Sometimes I pressed a bit, sometimes using very light touches. But I keep avoiding the rest of her breasts, teasing her. It didn't take long before she stood up to removed her bra. Again it looked like a signal for the rest of us, all four took of our clothes until we all only were wearing underwear. Back to the bed again and I took A in my arms and started to feel her firm breasts, the soft kin, the small hard nipples. Massaging her arms and legs with oil. Next to us, MsD was giving H. a full body massage, rubbing her natural cup E with lots of oil all over his body, while he was lying down on the bed. She drove him wild with that and I enjoyed the view while massaging his wife. Ms. A. reached to them, letting her fingertips wander across her husbands body, while her other hand found my erect penis in my underwear and started to stroke it. H. started to kiss my wife passionately while his hands were discovering her beautiful body. I had one hand on a breasts of A., while the other was exploring the shapes of her vagina through the fabric of her lace underwear. She was unbelievably wet and moaned at every touch. My wife joined me and we both caressed the lips and clitoral hood of A. We then both pulled the fabric away. Ms A. was now totally naked and was lying between uw, eyes closed, now kissing her husband while my wife and I were exploring her wet cunt. I looked in the eyes of MsD and whispered that I loved her so much. 'Darling, I love you too', my wife answered. As I kept looking into her beautiful eyes, I pushed two fingers into A.'s wet cunt and started to finger her. Slowly at first, but when I witnessed how MsD removed H.'s boxer short too, exposing a nice cock, and how she started to stroke and caress it, the speed went up. Her head tilted to her husband, giving him a deep kiss, her breasts rocking now I was fingering her hard, pushing her G-spot. He whispered what cock she wanted instead of my fingers and in a horny voice she whispered that she didn't care anymore. And with that, she came. Hard. I wanted to taste that pussy. So, after a tender kiss and removing my underwear, I positioned myself on my knees, next to A's head and lowered my head between her thighs. A. started to touch my cock, stroking it. I let my tongue find his way between her lips and around her clit, making her come after a while, for a second time. H. was between the legs of my wife, licking her too. I felt no jealousy at all watching that. Instead, it looked very hot! MsD's eyes were closed, the blush on her face and the sounds she was making made it clear to me she was enjoying it this time. Especially now he was not so soft and too careful like last time. But more confident and in charge, like MsD likes the most. Meanwhile, I still was sitting next to A., massaging her tummy and tits. To give her pussy a bit of rest. Ms A. was watching her husband, as he was now climbing next to my wife. Lying beside her and taking her in his arms while finger-fucking her hard. My wife was in her own world at that moment, just enjoying the feelings. She had those light red blushes in her neck and on the breasts. She always has that when she is very excited. It felt so good to watch her enjoying herself so much! Made me even harder. Suddenly, A. moved her head to my cock and slowly began to lick to head of my cock. I knew she never had done that to another man and her husband's eyes were full of surprise. He even said to MsD 'look at that, she has never done this!', making my wife returning back to reality. She slowly turned her head to see what was going on between me and A. Her eyes were half open, glazing and full of lust, when she saw how A's lips were around my dick. At that point I had to ask A. to slow down, otherwise I would have come right at that moment, just from all these intense images. We all took a small break, each couple in each others arms, stroking, kissing. I asked my wife 'would you like H. to push his cock into you pussy and fuck you well?' 'I would like that very much!', she answered. 'Do you both think that's a good idea as well?', I asked the other couple. Ms A. answered she was not ready for that yet and want to keep it soft swap for now. Which was perfectly fine for us, it felt great on its own to be able to just ask these kind of questions. MsD got on her knees, I positioned myself behind her. Next to us, H. was licking and teasing A.'s breasts and pussy. I pushed myself in MsD and she was wetter then I ever have felt. So smooth and warm. She arched her back and we started to fuck. It felt great to do this very intimate stuff right next to other people. Ms. A. asked my wife with a soft voice 'do you like that position as well?' 'Mmm, I do!", my wife answered. 'Me to', A. replied, meanwhile enjoying the hard fingering her husband was doing now. After a long period of hard pounding, MsD and I changed position and we started to fuck in missionary position. Next to us, H. was hard again and A. asked her husband to fuck her doggy style too. My wife and I enjoyed the view, seeing H. fucking his wife hard from behind, the horny expression of her face, her body moving, her firm breasts moving with each trust. It made us horny as hell. MsD asked me to fuck her hard. She put her legs on my shoulders, so I could fuck her real deep. The feeling was unbelievable and it didn't took long before she came. We turned around, so my wife could rest on my chest a bit. I stroked her hair and back and told her again how much I loved her and how beautiful she looked. We turned our heads and enjoyed the view. A. was now laying on her side, next to us. H. was slowly fucking her from behind. A. looked beautiful and very erotic. Very silently, H. reached his climax and filled A.'s pussy. They took a break, he went to the shower to wash himself clean, A. went to the bathroom to clean her pussy a bit. She was clearly not done yet when she returned to the bed. So, with my wife now behind me, massaging my shoulders, I touched A's swollen pussy. I asked both H. and his wife if this was okay, knowing it could be a bit odd to have her pussy touched after he had filled it with his cum. They looked both surprised but were okay with it. So, encouraged by the horny whispering of my wife in my ear, I started to rub A.'s now very moist lips. She was incredibly wet, her own juices and his sperm. He had really fill her pussy well, it felt wonderful to finger her this way. 'Are you still okay with this?', I asked. 'Mmm, yes, so dirty but wonderful', she replied. I increased the speed, three fingers in her cum filled pussy. She closed her eyes, focused on the feeling. Her husband started to kiss her passionately and after a while she came again. MsD turned me on my back, got on top and guided my dick in her. She started to move her hips, fucking me. It felt so good to do this next to the other couple, knowing they were enjoying the view of the beautiful body of my wife too. And indeed, they were in each other arms, calming down and looking at us going for it. When we are both very horny, MsD and I like to fuck hard and long. And so we did. A and H were already done for quite some time now and very tired. They asked us, while we were still fucking, if we would mind if they were going back to their room, having a shower and call it a night. We, still fucking, although a bit slower now, said we didn't mind but that we were not done yet. And if they would mind if we didn't stop. 'No, no, not at all. Enjoy yourself!', ms. A laughed and stroked MsD's hair. The situation now was awkward but horny as well. We slowly kept fucking, MsD rocking on my very hard and swollen dick, while A. and H. started to dress and pick their stuff. My wife lowered her back, now looking at the ceiling, leaning on her arms. Giving me a good look on her lips and my dick, making my now sensitive cock to reach new spots. Both A. and H. kissed her and wished us good night. The sound of the door of our room closing was the signal to pick up speed and for several minutes we fucked like crazy. I don't remember any sex I have had in my life to be this intense. When I reached my orgasm, it started slowly. I felt how I started to ejaculate but orgasm was still on its way. With every thrust I felt the extra fluids being pushed out of her cunt. Then the orgasm itself hit me and I started to fill her. MsD collapsed on top of me and I held her close in my arms. Breathless. We both whispered how much we loved each other and how great this was. We rested a bit like this until it was time to go to the shower too and going to sleep as well. No sound at all came from the other room, H. and A. were sleeping already, no doubt. --- Next morning, we still were walking on clouds. We started the day in each others arms, no sex, just reconnecting and reassuring. Time for MsD and I. The two of us alone. We came to the conclusion this was what we were looking for all the time we had spent looking for a way to share our intimacy with others. Turned out people we have a connection with, with a little background, in a hotel environment, is the way we both like best. We met A. and H. at the breakfast table. So strange but wonderful to meet these nice people in a vanilla setting again. To the rest of the restaurant, we were every day people. Only the four of us knew the exciting truth. We laughed and talked, reviewed all that had happened. Everyone was still on the same page. We talked about all aspects, they asked if we still didn't mind they had left before we had finished, we assured we didn't mind, that it would strange if all four people were finished at the exact same time. I praised Ms. A. for speaking up, against three people wanting otherwise, and refused to full swap. And we all agreed we should do this again in a few months time. All in all we could not have done this in this perfect way if we didn't learned a lot about swinging in the last months. And communication was the the most important part.

A lot of good advice here. I would suggest you need a relationship counselor, not just any shrink will do. They should be about to help you open up lines of communication as a disinterested third party. Your wife is kind of like mind and she shuts down when she doesn't want to talk about uncomfortable subjects. When you have communication established then you can start working on the sexual aspect of it. You were both lying (to yourself and the other person) when you got married, now it is time to straighten it out. You may still get divorced but when you will know it was an honest divorce and both know yourselves better. That should help resolve any hatred/blame that comes with divorce. Marriages must have true intimacy in all areas and you do not. Any screwing around you do now will only complicate an impossible situation. Get help for both of you first from people who can really help and flush those with preconceived notions. It is complicated, it comes across like surgery without anesthetic, but the transformations can be both beautiful and frightening. It is worth the trip but it is not fast.

In addition, banding, using the burdizzo is a method used to castrate bulls. There are also people out there who have a castration fixation and that is a method they sometimes use on themselves.

Of course, if you both are okay with that. There is no official handbook on these things. Only you two are to decide. But I agree with a lot of the above about the pressure normal life, being a parent, combining this all with work etc brings to the bed. It seems she is not completely okay with you having a solo date, it sounds more like giving in.

Be sure to let us know how things go...

... and this too is perfectly understandable and understood. Actually, in a lot of ways, I have been in very similar circumstances. My wife and I usually did MFM or gangbangs and rarely if ever hooked up with couples. Like you, I found myself interested in hooking up with women for either FMF or separate play. So, really and truly, I understand perfectly where you are coming from. However... and this is a BIG however... your wife just had a baby. - Pause a beat. - Your wife just had a BABY. This is a important. Add to this, your wife, while she wants to be "fair," is still clearly ambivalent about you playing with another woman. Combine these two facts and now is not the time for you to be hooking up with another woman. I'm going to repeat this for clarity, because I am getting the sense you really don't want to hear it but I feel you really need to... 1 - Your wife just had a baby! 2 - Your wife is not entirely comfortable with you hooking with another woman right now. 3 - Therefore, now is not the time for you to be hooking up with another woman. Period. Full stop. End of line. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. You are done. Later, after this whole baby thing has settled down and you and your wife have the energy and time to be together again, you can revisit her ambivalence, get to the root of it and eventually, I honestly predict, you will be able to hook up with another woman. Key word: Later, as in not now. Probably not this year. Maybe not next. But eventually. Once more for clarity - Now is not the time.

thanks to all who responded.....We love this site...we have learned so much....even if we haven't "done it" yet....at least we know if/when we do we will be somewhat informed on certain things..THANKS !

So babies kinda really blow...not fun at all. They're cute, but not a lot of fun. I have more kids than I can remember the names for (OK just kidding, depending on the day, kinda) and I can tell you that the years when they are babies was no fun. So you want to feel connected, and 'be bad'. Stop feeling old (ok, kids also age you, I get that). Do you tell your wife about the girl on the street? WTF for?? Make your wife feel like shit? "hey, baby me and this girl on the street were into each other, I asked her for coffee and she said yes". I seriously doubt that will end well. Really not a lot has happened. You are still debating on actual follow through, etc. Every male into sex debates that. So what's the question? Have a full blown old school affair? I thought you got out of open relationships because of the bs? You have no time and energy for the wife, so now you need to make time and energy for another woman as well? Really? Find a FWB? Interesting do you get the Hall Pass? Again got to make the time and energy? Oh yeah and don't forget the 'drama' that a girl on the side is going to cause. How long do you think she will want to be second fiddle? If you are lucky she will just blow you off one day. If you are lucky. I have two solutions, First Baby Sitter, sitter.com, sitter-city.com. Get one that is background checked to spend the night. Have her show up early so Mom can take a nap. Then go out on the town and be bad and do all those things you used to do with the wife reasonably well rested. Have one of those nights together where all you do is eat, drink and fuck. Oh yeah and take off work. My wife and I did something similar to this yesterday. We took off the day at work. Got the kids to school. She slept in, then we spent the morning fucking, it was great. I didn't have to get in a car. She didn't chase the kids. Family can drain your energy, take time to renew it. But KikonKrome isn't this expensive? Yes, yes it is. You know what's more expensive? A divorce, a failed marriage, years of marital therapy, years of therapy for the kids after the divorce. Losing your shit because a fucking baby is crying at three in the morning for a month or two straight! Seems like it is cheaper to pay for the baby sitter. Kids are great I love having mine, but remember to take a break. Second solution Pro. You don't pay a girl for sex, you pay them to leave you alone after it. If new Mom can not bare to leave the little ones. If you really need to get some strange. When you use a pro at least you minimize the damage. They are just another element in the erotic tool kit. If you work it right you get Mom, the baby sitter and the pro. By the morning you feel great and you are back to being Super Dad. I have never done this. It does seem viable especially in areas of the world where they are legal. Mom and I have taken the 'Wild Over Nighter' with friends. The older kids don't even realize you are gone, much less the younger kids. Again this seems cheaper to me than the therapy, drama and divorce. So those are my two idea's the first one is well battle scarred and tested. Really the kid thing is a lot of fun, but to enjoy them you need to take a bit of a break. Personally I like to take my breaks with my wife, but not everybody can. Just remember you only have about 18 - 20 years before they are gone. Better figure something out for the long haul. Now I got to run and find out why one of the kids got a 'C' in religion, WTF Religion? It's suppose to be a gimme 'A'.

Hi, victoria'dreams. First of all, I salute you in being able to write all of this down and being open to advice. Not a lot of people can or want to do that. Second, I don't know how many kids you have but the first year of a child's life can be difficult on a couple, due to lack of sleep and the needs of the new child. I find that the first child is always the hardest because there is a lot of adjustments that the couple needs to make and the couple isn't always prepared to make them. Yes, being too exhausted for sex is one of them but this is just temporary. Eventually, the child will demand less time as the years go by and the time to have sex will increase. What you both are going through right now can be called a difficult time. This is just one of those times when your relationship will be tested. Will your reaction to the frustrations of life be a positive or negative impact to your relationship? Will you take note of the issues and sweep them under the rug or tackle them head on with your wife? Honestly, juggling a young child with work and keeping your marriage can be tough, especially when it is a new experience. My advice would be to put your energy (what you have left) into strengthening your relationship with your wife and cherishing these moments with your young child. These moments don't last forever. Also, take some couple time, just you and your wife, to get away for dinner and romance. The feeling that you can't even be honest with your wife about how you met, talked, and feel about this other woman shows that there is some room for improvement in your relationship with your wife.

Give the lady what she wants: some romance! Make her feel special and that you love her. Telling her that you want her to go flirt with other men doesn't always say 'I love you' the way women want to hear it. It sounds like she is feeling disconnected with you and is asking you to try and fix this. So fix it...the rest will come on its own.

Only one thing comes to my mind right now. Whether or not the deed is done in secret, if you wife eventually meets this woman and receives the impression that she is looking into a mirror and seeing a younger, slimmer image of herself, you're toast.

Wait that could be my wife and I:rollseye:

Just Not Ready Fred and Betty - That couple in a heated argument after going to far too fast, danger, danger, avoid at all costs!!

He may have been the best fuck she ever had, but you were the one who was willing to let her experience this...and she's still coming home with you.

Mr Hitch had a lot of fun, keeps talking about it, checking in with me to make sure I'm not having regrets. We keep talking about and it's still amazing. I expected to be nervous, to have to think about things as it went, to feel like it might be wrong...but none of that happened. I wasn't nervous. I didn't think about any of it. I just went with it and loved every moment. I know Mr Hitch was a bit nervous, he wasn't as hard as I know he could be. He also wasn't into the amount of touching the other guys were. I think it's a difference between being bi (and attracted to same sex) and being curious. Mr is all about giving pleasure, he is a giver and loves that role. We did say our boundaries for him was No Mouth Kissing, and both men loved to just touch and kiss his body. He went with it and said he wouldn't have changed it, but doesn't need it. He didn't cum when we were there and our friend was kind of disappointed that he couldn't make Mr H cum. But we both agree that the next time he will be less nervous. When we got home he was harder than I've ever seen and whispered in my ear about 'next time' and all the things he wanted to do. Fantastic! Just this morning, on our walk, we were talking about it and he asked if I was still up for adding a woman or couple. Asking if this caused me to rethink things. And nope. This experience put me firmly in the 'Sex for Pleasure, not Love' column. I'd love to see another women pleased by him the way I always am. He's well endowed and has a Gene Simmons-like tongue that he knows how to use, well. He needs to share that. I've already been on SLS today, looking for a couple. I know that finding a single woman is difficult, at best. Now, I understand...

Yes, I have done things with swing partners I haven't done with my husband. This has happened in the same room or separate rooms. We are very easy going and go with the flow. I like to have fun and give 100%. An example would be swallowing someone's come. This has never happened with my husband. He knows it's happened with other people quite a few times, and it is fine. I also orgasmed through intercourse for the first time with someone else. That worked out super well, because now I'm able to do it with my husband also. So, I don't really hold back during swinging. The only thing I don't do is go bareback for intercourse or say I love you. I want my husband to have as much fun as possible so I don't begrudge him anything with our friends as long as it is safe. If you care to tell us more about your situation, we may be able to give more input.

We've done it several times but I've never been the guy in the middle. A few years ago we were seeing 2 guys that both liked anal so it seemed to be a natural thing to do. We only used one position. My wife and the guy would start missionary (it helps to have a pillow under her butt). I would come in from behind. It isn't the easiest position. One has to be mindful of any weight he is adding to the stack. I found it to the be a balancing act to some extent. Both guys admitted that it was the most amazing sexual feeling they had ever experienced. J actually loved it as well. As I pushed into him, he would be pushed into her, she said it was like I was fucking her with his big dick. I say go for it! I've seen porn where everyone is on their side. We just aren't built for that position, even with just the 2 of us.

We had some friends over one time, and we were paired up and moving around making use of about every room in the house. Me and my playmate were on the sofa and I was on top and we were doing some heavy making out leading up to the main event. I felt a light stoking and tickling on the back of my neck and said "mmmmm, that feels good" and after a little bit more time went by, my brain overcame the sensory overload and kicking in enough to tell me, "wait, she's got two hands, and I know the whereabouts of both of them, and neither one is near the back of my neck??" I started paying attention and figured out it was our miniature poodle - she had snuck up onto her usual spot on top of the back of the couch, and when I would get in reach, she would stick her head out and start licking right above the hairline on my neck! That mystery solved, I shooed her back and we got on with business. Then when things really got going, she kept wanting to jump on my back to enjoy the ride while peering over my shoulder looking right into the eyes of my playmate from about 6 inches away. It was so funny we both kept busting out laughing until we finally had to lock the dog in another room just so we could have sex Worse than having a little kid in the house!

Well, aside from the usual bruises mrs has suffered when men or women get a little too rough with her, there is an ongoing saga right now. Now not really a sex related injury, but it did happen at our club. We just got out of the jacuzzi and mrs put on her sky high 7" platform stilettos. Her feet were still a little wet, and she fell off one and cracked her wrist. Yep, doing the splinting, Percocet, icing thing for the past couple of weeks.