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My wife proposed the swinging lifestyle 15 years back to which I agreed. In the beginning we started with MFM threesome and eventually tried couple to couple interaction, my wife & single males without my involvement, me and single woman without my wife’s participation to accommodate singles who are not comfortable with threesomes. Everything went well until 2001. My wife told me that she wants to try gangbang. We went to one private gangbang party. My wife was raved by six single males. The manner in which she was raved made me uncomfortable. However I was surprised to observe that my wife was enjoying tremendously hence I did not stop her from what she was doing. Later on I told my displeasure about gangbang. My wife asked me the reason. I said, the guys did not pay any respect, behaving as if you are slut. She said, look I enjoyed immensely. Our objective is get maximum pleasure and fulfills our deepest hidden fantasy. As long as I achieve it then who cares what any one thinks of me? I am not going to marry anyone. What makes you think that they did not respect me? I told her, I did not like the way the group fondled your breasts as soon as we entered the room without asking your permission or even bothering to introduce about them before touching. Then they never gave you any choice. They all pounced on you like hyenas and you were simply submitting to their deeds. They made few offending remarks which you ignored. She said, look, single males who are not real broadminded are bound to react that way. In gangbang you have to compromise with few ideals. I did not agree to it and I told that let us work out the boundaries in swinging. She said, if you are not comfortable then it will jeopardize our marriage hence let us stop this swinging lifestyle and be exclusive to each other. Since we could not agree on boundaries we stopped swinging. I became frustrated within six months and suggested threesome. My wife refused. She said, if you are comfortable then I will go to the parties alone for Gangbang and you can enjoy your own ways. If we both are comfortable with this then let us start again. Because I can’t agree with swinging that suits you only. Over period of time my desires have changed and I get strong urge for gangbang and don’t feel like going for threesome or foursome. If you don’t feel threatened by this then let us start again. Otherwise our marriage is first priority to me. I agreed with her demands and then we started swinging. She then regularly visits (once a month) gangbang parties for last three years. During this gangbang she started enjoying anal sex, oral sex which she used to hate. What really surprised me is her consistent interest in swinging. I know many broadminded couples who have lost interest in wife swapping in few years time. I have lost interest in swinging as well and I am not able to understand why my wife still desires gangbang. I have no objection if she continues to visit gangbang parties but I am perplexed for her prolonged interest in gangbang. Three years is very long period. Gang bang parties are ok for 2-3 times to fulfill fantasy but three years are not understandable. I wanted to test whether she is badly addicted to GB parties and suggested that let us be exclusive to each other. She reacted very adversely and said, I can’t dance all the time on your tune. Now what is problem? I said I am concerned about you which she does not agree. I don’t want to impose my opinion on her but this time I am not able to communicate her because of her perception about me that my decisions in the past about swinging is impulsive knee jerk reaction. I am confused and would like input from experienced swingers.

I love this board. This is one of those potential hot-button topics, and all it seems to bring out in everyone is a polite rendering of their perspective. Asncpl, I really appreciated reading your post. It really sheds a different light on how such situations could actually work in healthy, positive way.

I think one of the clubs in my area has a sybian. Wasn't thinking of buying one was just thinking about letting her take one for a spin and see how she likes it. She hasn't squirting yet but I think she has potential. One time at the club she was in a sex swing which we both love by the way. I was sitting in front of her licking her pussy and fingering her G spot and she was gushing a little. Her juice was running down my arm and into my lap. We were both amazed. She said that never happened to her before. I was so proud. It puffed my chest up. I felt so manly. LOL. So I should probably look into the waterproof one. I like the heart catch up with the head thing. It makes perfect sense. I am just going to keep doing what I am doing. Going slow, communication, and enjoy the ride. Thanks again intuition. I think you are right on again. Is that you in your avatar?

I can see the value of certifications when it comes to making sure people are real, but have found a lot of people really don't like the kiss and tell aspect. I've seen a few people who only want to meet certified people only, but those are pretty rare, and makes me wonder what bad experiences they must have had along the way.

If you connected with your wife you need to get that back. Talk to her and find out her fantasies, get her to talk to you and do not mention other people. Be ready to share your fantasies first and be sure and tell her that without her it would not be any fun. Buy her flowers for no reason. Move slowly and plan to go to dinner, neck and get her to fall in love with you ll over again. After a while she should open up, get her to talk about what she likes. It is a long road, but I think it will be worth the journey. You connection to her is weak and she is afraid. If it takes a couple of years, so what? You will have a much stronger marriage and a more satisfying one.

This subject came up in hypothetical discussion with my late wife. Her conclusion was that she'd NEVER trust ANY of my brothers to keep their mouths shut afterward. She was such a good judge of character!

The first couple profile I saw when we first signed up on SLS was my brother & his wife. I'm sure he recognized me in my profile pic despite only half my face showing because he gave me a sly wink the next time we saw one another in person. Nothing was ever said (yet ) and their profile is gone now. Maybe it freaked him out to see his sister on there! Lol. I'm sure I was the last person he expected to see. I'm sure it will get brought up next time we have a private conversation. No I would not play with even just his wife. I would possibly consider playing with my hubby's brother. After all a very sexy dream I had many years ago about hubby & his brother both doing me at the same time, that I shared with hubby & he was really turned on by the thought of me fucking his brother, was the catalyst for us to share more swappping/threesome/moresome fantasies and eventually led us to this lifestyle. But fear that it wouldn't be as non-dramatic in real life with involving the brother has kept us from pursuing that particular fantasy. Some things may just be better off staying fantasy. -She

I'm adopted so I might already be doing it

I came aboard the lifestyle because of my older sister, who was already a seasoned pro. We are very close, and it wasn't a secret that she and her husband are swingers. It was early on in my swinging days so I didn't know a lot. They were among the first people I swapped with. We have done soft swaps, full swaps, and also group sex setting like in a club. The nudity didn't bother me because we had all seen each other naked on trips to nude beaches and resorts. I have also seen my sister having sex from my teenage days (we shared a tiny room) that it wasn't that big of a jump. At the time it really felt like a learning experience, sort of a no pressure situation with them as the experienced swingers showing us how it's done. Sure, there was possibility of ruining the relationship, but my sister and I already had a very strong bond that I was comfortable nothing would come between us. I had turned down swapping requests from good vanilla friends for fear of ruining the friendship but now that i think about, the thought didn't cross my mind when my sister and I swapped. Your situation seems to be reversed from mine, since you are the experienced couple and your sister and her boyfriend are new to the scene. I think a lot depends on your relationship with your sister. You probably know her better than most people. Does she have a jealous streak? Does she form emotional bond easily with sexual partners? What are her concerns being new to the lifestyle? I think you can get a decent idea if this will work or have some negative consequences. Also how well do you know her boyfriend? Problems usually come up when there is jealousy or when one partner becomes more than sexually interested in the play partner. One big question I have from reading the OP is that with your sister recently divorced, will she be jealous if she sees her boyfriend act out his sexual attraction to you? In my situation that wasn't happening because my sister and I have completely different taste in men when it comes to relationships. If it's something you and your husband want to explore, I'd say try soft swap first. You can always go further if everyone is comfortable, and even then there are many baby steps you can take without going full swap. You may want to check out the archive on this board for discussion on Swinging and Family Issues. Some of the posts are pretty old but you can see some long-time members have encounters like what you described.

how about reverse? how many women have you guys had ,the most i ever seen was 1 guy 5 girls it was laughable and an epic fail !!!!that lasted 3 minutes with no soreness what so ever..i think at my best i can "handle" three women with all parties happy and sore...

Yes, but we are a crowd that don't kiss and tell.

As a solo guy I've been in a few MMF's where the male part of the couple played with me and preformed limited oral on me. I did not find it awkward and it appeared to turn the lady on tremendously. I did return the favor. Do I consider myself bi? Maybe sexually flexible or opportunistic. I am not attracted to men when I walk by them on the street, but I am when seeing women.

Not to be so forward but I'd like to offer a critique - this attitude would not be appreciated by us. We want those who join us to be looking for an erotic experience and not just sex. I figure most guys can get laid by going out to a singles bar, but it takes a certain kind of attitude to really enjoy the eroticism of a threesome.

OK so I've started this thread and it's been a while... Yes, it happened. After I started this thread, I was contacted by a single gent who knew us from a swingers website. He said he is open for experimentation. So it happened. Yes, I sucked a dick! Not to completion though, but I did suck it. Did it make me feel weird. No. Do I feel like a freak. No. Was it as gross and as difficult as it was maybe perceived to be. No. Was it exciting to feel him and experience his sexual energy. Yes. Did the wife enjoy it. Yes, she also said, it looked and felt so natural that we did it together. Am I now suddenly a bi-sexual man. NO. I so much love the female body and especially boobs and can't describe how horny it makes me. Have to admit, that I secretly undress many women with my eyes, that is how horny they make me. When I look at a man in a normal situation, I don't even look at them in a sexual way and I generally don't find men attractive. Will I do it again. Yes. Maybe not with anybody. But I liked the personality and attitude of this gent and he had the correct personality to go with his rock-hard dick. I don't think I would easily go down on anyone, but in a threesome situation with the wife, with this specific gent...Yes I would do it. I realized that it is all about sexual energy and how we experience it. If we feel comfortable, we would be open to more liberal experiences. I've got to admit to myself that immediately afterwards, I wondered why I thought it would be so hard to do and why I put so much thought into it. It was so easy and natural. Even the wife is so happy for me to broaden my horizons.

I think it's also different concepts of the term. When I have sex and hubby watches, we don't consider it hotwifing, we consider it a group activity (even without his active involvement, he is involved by watching). Different perspectives and practices are incredibly interesting, though!

I love eating the cum out of my wife after she gets home from being fucked. She comes home and I know the look, I've just been fucked and my pussy needs attention. She lays down, spreads her legs, and I watch the jism slides out of her. I lay down and lick it out as she tells me how many loads are in her. Nothing excites me more then knowing she is being fucked with a fat cock.

We're a hot wife couple, but the twist is she never goes anywhere; we/I find deserving (by that I mean polite, appreciative, gentlemen) and invite them to come play with her at home. I love watching her have sex, with either another man, or woman. She gets super turned on when she knows I enjoy watching her getting fucked or giving a good blowjob. If anyone would have suggested that to me 5 years ago, I may have shot them in the face. LOL how times change.

Their is a cool hotwife website that's free. Search for Our Hotwives lots of good reading on their.

Eldiablo311, Trust me, single guys are everywhere. Use a swing site like Swinglifestyle and you will get plenty of guys. And they will do it in front of you.