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My wife and I have been in the scene for about a week. We went to a local club and really just hung out and talked to people. This week, we decided to join the club. We went on Thursday. There were not many people there, but we wanted to get to know some of the people there. We talked with the owner. We got the grand tour. My wife rode a sibian (I think that is what they were calling it) and then we had sex with each other. We went back to the club on Saturday night. We started mingling with some of the people there. We started hitting it off with a couple. I started chatting up the husband while my wife and his wife went off to use the restroom and smoke. We did some shots and had some laughs. Within about 20 minutes, I found myself full on making out with this guy's wife right in front of him. My wife started making out with him right in front of me. My wife leaned into me and said that they were good to go to the back if we were ready. I nodded and we started making our way back. Our wives undressed and started kissing each other. Then my wife went over to him as he took off his clothes as I made my way to his wife. We just went at it. I was so concerned about jealousy and other feelings coming around, but there were none. I LOVED hearing my wife moaning with pleasure as she was given oral and fingered by another man. I took his wife and also gave her oral. She squirmed from the moves that I have been putting on my wife for years. No lie, that felt pretty darn good. When we both got ready to have sex, I glanced over at my wife to make sure she was ok. She was, so I continued on with this woman. I will say that the nervousness made it hard to start out (no pun intended) but once that subsided, it was good to go. I stole glances over at my wife occasionally as she was getting taken, and I even found myself reaching over and rubbing her clit as she was being fucked by this guy. It was one of the, if not the hottest thing I have ever experienced. I am so glad that we experienced this together. To me, this type of thing is so much healthier than one person or the other going behind someone's back and cheating. We can't wait to have another experience, and this has also completely revved up our engines for each other!

Honestly I don't any place that lets people in just to look around. Especially here in Vegas that is all we would be doing, give free tours to hundreds of people each night sight seeing. Since our office is connected our membership manager can tell people the exact number of bodies on the premisses and he does often when people ask. I also tell them on the phone what is the "norm", that can be off on any night though. I have had good nights be slow and slow nights turn into the biggest nights we have ever had. Now saying that I believe hosts should be more honest about "what is in there" when they talk to people at the door.

We are not bi...but we are bi comfortable. I should double check our profile and see if that is on there. We played with a couple over a year and found out that he was bi. Word got around and some people mistook us as being bi as well and it created some funny moments in the bedroom. People assume if you played as a straight couple with a bi couple you are then by default a bi couple. We are listed as straight on our profile and get straight and bi guys propositioning us. The harder part I think is for my wife. She is Way to Good looking for her own good. It's the bi women that really have to be beat off with a stick sometimes. We have our opening conversation where we say," Misses is straight and does not play with other women. Ever." Bi women in a couple seem to be the more aggressive sexually of the species. I think that to many people checking our your profile is a good thing. In fact my wife takes the singles men and helps them with their profiles some times. She will tell them how to set up a profile that is attractive to couples and women. I am surprised that so many men do not see themselves how they are really coming off. I think it is good that you are talking about it.

I'm so glad to hear that you and O had a great time. And thank you for sharing your first experience! I'm so glad that we aren't the only ones that jumped on the full swap quickly, as well. I thought for certain that when we first started, we would do same room, no swapping with a couple first, then progress to soft swap, and then full but we went head first with our first couple, too!

Well, I think I expected it to feel crazy erotic, but really it was just fun and different. I mean, it was a turn on, but it wasn't the crazy, dirty experience I kind of thought it might be. Idk if that's making much sense... Also, I had read on the boards here before that the swinging was the foreplay, but I now can understand what that really means. I think the sex we have tonight AFTER we get these kids to bed will be much better than anything that happened this afternoon. I have been wet and trying not to attack O since we got back home. Lol There was some performance anxiety. But we expected that and were prepared for it, so I don't think it ruined the afternoon for anyone. We did kind of jump on the full swap right out of the gate which I didn't really expect, but felt natural. I KNOW they were okay with it, as it wasn't their first time. O and I feel comfortable with it too, so I guess that was some added fun! We've even already heard back from them, and looks like we will be trying to meet up again sometime in the future.

We are so happy for you two! Care to tell more about the things that went different?

Welcome to the club, instructions on the secret swinger handshake will follow by email I think your reaction is typical. It is different than what you expect and what others think that we swingers feel and it's different in a way that can't really be explained well, or at least I can't explain it well. But, you didn't run yelling and screaming from the room, and think it may be something you want to try again sometime, so mission accomplished!

This desire is so common you really do not have to worry about being alone. Many men do share their wives, many want but do not succeed but also many dream of it in total secret because it is still for a lot of people a taboo. I wrote a very similar first post years ago before we've done anything with my wife and I was obsessed by it too so much! If I speak for us, the reality was so much better than I even imagined. Was awesome to have threesomes with her and it still is! My wife is also very beautiful (she was a fashion model all her life). There are many way of sharing your lover and to find which one turns you on the most would lead you to the right people/website to go to talk to. For example me and my wife love both type of threesomes (FMF & MFM) and we've a light dominant(me)/submissive(her) relationship. We do everything together, I always participate and mostly lead the whole thing. If you are into more passive behavior, like cuckolding (humiliation) or making your wife a 'hotwife' (monogamous relationship for you but freedom for her to have sex with other men with or without you) you shall check ourhotwives.org. Do not care what other think and just have fun with your wife!

It's a funny thing. A friend of mine once told me she was at a club where the play areas were "towels or less" and enjoyed playtime with a lovely couple. Once they exited the play area and met at the bar, she realized if they had met fully clothed, she would have been unlikely to engage them. The couple was underdressed and a little shabby at best. Another friend whined about an experience with a lovely couple, whom he met at the local club. They chatted for awhile at the bar and decided to have some fun. The lady, while deliciously voluptuous in her clothing, was not as advertised by the time she shed her girdle, push up bra and hose. He was disappointed. True that swinging is a naked sport and if you think what you wear is important, then it is. Confidence can be gained in clothing - even spanx. If you can put your best foot forward without being deceptive, even better.

I believe a host or hostess has a good reason for disallowing people just to "look around". It might be Church Lady on a fishing expedition for sinners or a TV reporter who wants to snoop.

That stinks and it has happened to us! We can always play as a couple and no loss for us.

Just nothing having garlic or onion flavoring. And no hot peppers; if transferred from lips to naughty bits, causes discomfort.

If you don't put much effort into how you look in cloths, then how much effort do you think I believe you put into taking care of whats under your cloths?

In my opinion, this is a recipe for disaster. You are hiding something big and important from your husband. He either doesn't care about your pleasure or is completely inept. Neither of those are good for successful swinging. What happens when you meet someone who can make you come for real? Do you think your fake coming will be evident? How will you feel? Will you pile on more deception ("You're still the best lover?")? What if he can make other girls come? What if he can't? It just doesn't bode well to start swinging with this deception going on. I think if you are honest, and take some time together to improve your sex, then it might be a good time to move on to swinging. Conversely, be honest, that you aren't coming with him and use swinging to learn. Maybe you learn new ways to come, maybe he learns new ways to pleasure or to be more receptive to direction. Right now, as is swinging probably isn't the best move.

First of all, as already mentioned, you probably need to talk with him...maybe even show him this post. Men really do enjoy having their woman be able to get off and most are willing to do whatever it takes to learn how to accomplish that. Another thought here, maybe bring it up that if you two are going to go forward you should practice on each other. You can start: have him tell and direct you to do the things that he likes. The next time, you direct him to do what you like. This is all under the guise that you are trying to become the best lovers possible before embarking on this trip. Either way, before you go much further, you both need to work on your communication. You need to be able to tell each other ANYTHING without fear or hesitation. As already mentioned, swinging is a magnifying glass that will make a good relationship even greater...but can easily destroy a weak one.

I think you may be overthinking this a bit. Every swing experience is not guaranteed to be out of this world fantastic, in fact most aren't. Everyone is different and the way the parts fit together is different, so it never goes as smoothly as it does with your spouse with whom you have had sex with many, many times. What I'm getting at is in this case, that might be a good thing. When being with someone new, you can't just put it on remote control through sheer muscle memory brought about through repetition, you have to really focus on what you are doing and reading the feedback, either stated or subtle, not only for it to be good for them but for it to be good for you too. He'll have to do that, or it will get frustrating for him when he can't even keep it in her. While there is the physically awkward factor with someone new, that is offset by the excitement factor as others have mentioned. It's when you find your groove together with someone, and have that excitement factor, that is when it can be really, really good. That just doesn't happen every time though. Whenever we play, we always compare notes with each other afterwards, because it's fun What we really liked, what we thought was hot, what we didn't like as much, what our playmates did or didn't do that was different than what we do, etc. It's not meant to be critical, and it's not, it's really just reliving the excitement of the whole thing but there is a lot to be learned there too. You may find that helps things a lot with him, and with yourself too, when it comes to getting more in sync with each other.

As many people here have experienced: swinging is a magnifying glass. All little things that can be overcome in a relationship, can grow into bigger obstacles when swinging. It really puts the spotlight on what was shoved under the carpet. And that is the reason I too urge you to talk again about this. How you feel unsure about his performance. Because if you are not and start swinging, you both will have a conversation about it in the end, no matter what. But with lots more emotions. The biggest risk I see, based on you story, is how you are going to feel if he easily gets off other women. The biggest possible win I see, is how he will learn from these other women and you can benefit from his new knowledge. But you have to take care of your risks first I think, so having that talk is something I recommend too.

I don't think this is a good way to start off. I'd look for other couples. You don't want to play with a woman who doesn't want you. It's not worth it. Also, your wife playing with him makes them even, but what about you? If swinging is something you want to experience for the first time together, you may feel left out. I'm also a little wary of crushes in the lifestyle. A lot of day to day contact (texting, etc.) with someone other than your spouse tends to breed hurt feelings. I would just be careful. You might revisit your wife and him playing sometime in the future after you are comfortable in the scene and have other friends. You could all go to a party or club and everyone could play with the person of their choice.

WELCOME to Swingersboard. This has happened to my wife and I several times. The guy is all ga-ga over her and the woman is playing the perfect imitation of Greta Garbo, "I want to be alone." From experience we learned: 1. Should not become involded in other people's drama 2. Should not take one for the team 3. Another couple is right around the corner. I mean, really, there is an endless supply. ~Michael

If you don't like being in this situation, walk away. If your relationship with your wife is in the right place, your wife won't want you to be in this situation either. Clearly, this other couple is working on a tit-for-tat and using your wife as a means for the other wife to get what she wants.

As Chicup stated, a lot of guys who list themselves as "straight" are fronting, mostly because of the stigma even in the LS of Bi or Bi-curious guys. I find that even if you see a male listed as straight in the top, you have to read through the entire profile and 9 times out of 10 if they are being deceptive, there will be hints that things might not be as they appear. One example, the most common one I see, might be the couple emphasizes again elsewhere that the male is straight, but then adds he is "open-minded" or maybe "not closed-minded". Another interpretation I think might be "He is straight, but not homophobic" (I mean why even add that as anyone willing to be doing sex acts in a room with other naked men is going to be comfortable being around other dicks even if they have no interest in interacting with said genitals?). I list my status as straight and that is the only way I will conduct myself with other men, yet at the same time I have no problem being with a couple where the male is listed as Bi as long as he understands my status is not subject to exceptions. This has not always worked out in the past, as we had to break it off with one couple because the guy, I guess figuring that the our willingness to play with a bi-male somehow really meant I was not completely straight, kept trying to push his luck and as a result got neither me, of course, or the full swap he wanted from Mrs. Fours.

A lot of "straight" guys are lying on their profile. I'm listed straight and I still get "straight" guys asking if I'm into guys, so it's going to be worse for you. Also I think some guys are so hard up for sex they would have sex with you if it meant sex with your wife too. I was once offered directly "I will suck your dick if I can fuck your wife".