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We are not active members in the lifestyle. However, we have had a number of full swap situations with friends of ours along with 2 MFM's with the male half of said couple. Lately, we had our first MFF. If you had asked me before to choose only one situation, i would go with the MFM. Pleasing my wife and being able to watch her enjoy herself is always my biggest thrill so the MFM is perfect for that. Like real life porn. However, after last weekend, when my wife asked me "So, choose-MFM or MFF?" I didn't know what to say. I always thought that i would be the "star" in a MFF and this didn't interest me as much. I was wrong. My wife was still the star and i enjoyed every minute of it! It is always nice to enjoy another lady as well. The best part was how the whole situation happened. We had a party and an old acquaintance unexpectedly showed up whom we haven't seen for a number of years. While she wasn't invited, we were more than happy to see her and catch up. The evening wore on and everyone eventually went home, including her. My wife and i retired to the bedroom and were having our own fun when i heard a soft knock on our bedroom door! My wife was somewhat put off as she was close to climax. I was stunned as i never heard anyone come into the house. I walked to the door naked to see what was up and was pleasantly surprised to see our old friend there. It was a matter of seconds before she was naked and the girls were playing and a great time ensued. We had so much fun we had a repeat performance the next night! It was a perfect situation and result for a new experience.

One thing that is puzzling to me is the apparent lack of effort by many men in the lifestyle. The lack of effort takes many forms-- scant number of photos on profiles, god awful appearance and overall creepiness. Why, as a guy, do I care? Well it's limiting my choices! Case in point-- in reviewing profiles on line, I can't tell you how many I have come across where the guy looks like a total schlump. That breaks the deal right out the gate and is a shame as a number of these schlumps have attractive wives who do try. I personally am trying not to fall into that category and make myself presentable. I am also very selective with the photos I post. We also try to post a good variety of photos instead of 87 boob shots, 114 photos of the "better" female half, and one fuzzy picture of the male. It's a team game and everyone has to want to play. Men who play the schlump role are killing me. Schlumps knock it off!! For those who do it right-- keep it up!

Well, yes. Something very similar happened with my wife and I. The new-at-it couple seemed eager and confident up until the moment that the woman and I became horizontal. Her eyes glazed over, she became silent, and eventually curled up in a fetal position and cried uncontrollably. I could not think of what to do. But I think my reaction was better than her husband's. When my wife and I had recovered our whits, we suggested, "let's get out of here, go find some place to sit down and talk." This was just to get them both of them out of our house before anything really bad happened. Discussing the event later with my wife, we discovered that we both had the same thing in mind as this drama unfolded -- that we would never again be trying it with this particular couple. We will go a certain distance with new people but we know that we cannot fix everybody's problems.

I'm very bi and my husband Bobby goes bi a little. We just introduced ourselves to the board by posting a story about our weekend with new friends. (Silly me, I kept mixing up the pseudonym I use for my husband, calling him Billy in some places and Bobby in others. Don't worry about that.) I don't know if we'll be doing more bi-on-bi action or not; it's fine by me, but more experimental for Bobby. We'll see how it goes. Until then, it's me, Quick to Come and Come too Quick

The factors of age and experience bring so much to the dropping of the bugaboos about same sex experimentation. We find that older couples tend to be more flexible with sexual play even as their bodies become less flexible. Those hard and fast rules of heterosexuality seem to lose their hardness which helps the man's hardness. At some point it becomes more "Am I going to go through life never having experienced sucking a cock?" and less "OMG, I could never suck a cock!" This is especially true when your wife would love to see men sucking cock. Why the hell not??? For those truly interested in pleasing their spouses, those stupid rules against same sex play become less and less meaningful. Pleasing becomes more and more meaningful. After all life doesn't last forever. The closer and clearer we are to truly getting this, the more curious about all of sex we become.

I understand that this is an old thread but I didn’t feel I should begin another so here I go. I am not bi and neither is my husband – meaning neither of us look for sex with the same sex. With that said we both however have had sex with many people over time and have had contact with the same sex on multiple occasions. I have returned the favor of good sex (with females) without any reservations numerous times and in fact view sex like this as just that, sex. Don’t get me wrong I can get into it and my husband loves when it has happened. Lascivious L&L put it in a good context. I will do anything to bring pleasure to my husband. I have no problem being with a woman, women, man, or men if he asks and would love the same of him. We have been building towards this for years, getting him comfortable with the idea. He now enjoys cum, cum play, cum kissing, cream pies, and loves taking it straight from the tap these days. And the anal sex, oooohhh the anal. He loves getting done anally. I can get him to take it anally all weekend long (something I love to mb watching). So my reason for posting: Are there bi/bi couples out there who have dealt with this type of scenario (or anything remotely similar) where a wife is willing to do whatever it takes and a husband who is interested in pleasing his wife’s desires and opening to the idea of bi/bi action? If so how did you help bring it about? If no one has experienced this, do you have any ideas or suggestions?

Him: hairy pussy, watching my wife get satisfied by another man Her: bald men, role playing in which she is "rescued" She attains multiple O's easily, just needs a stiff cock

I shared this thread with Alan. He said he read already and asked me my thoughts. I asked him if he would want to meet a black couple. Would it be because they are black or because he thinks all black men are big. He knows I have been with black guys before and I told him not all are huge but he remembered I told him I was with a very big one years ago. My first time with a black man was because I was trying to prove something. He happened to be a very nice guy, not even that big. I felt like a rebel at the time. I grew up in a white area and had mostly white friends.

Right now my wildest fantasy would be to be in a very big total dark room orgy.. Where as you don't know who's doing or touching you and vice versa!!