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This thread has just made me fall off the bed laughing. I don't know (or care) what other people think about what my wife & I look like. The fact is that if someone finds us attractive, great, if not, it's ok. I do think my wife is better looking than me. My wife (JsWife) & I have a photo on our profile here on the board. We are new to this lifestyle and not really seeking out couples at this point for sexual things, though it may come, but I would prefer any person we meet to actually be able to carry on a conversation and actually be interested in things to do outside of the lifestyle. If you consider yourself super attractive and if you are right then couldn't you just find people via other avenues. Why complain when most people are average and normal and perfectly happy about it. To me this board has been an invaluable resource in getting to know this lifestyle. Why clog up the board with nonsense like this. Let's get back to helpful and fun topics.

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Perhaps you have the blessing and curse of being so sublimely beautiful that no one could possibly match your level of attractiveness. Short of lowering your impossibly high standards, you may be forced to accept that finding another couple to swing with will be akin to finding a needle in a haystack.

 

Another possibility might be investing in mirrors for your bedroom . . .

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This thread has just made me fall off the bed laughing. I don't know (or care) what other people think about what my wife & I look like. The fact is that if someone finds us attractive, great, if not, it's ok. I do think my wife is better looking than me. My wife (JsWife) & I have a photo on our profile here on the board. We are new to this lifestyle and not really seeking out couples at this point for sexual things, though it may come, but I would prefer any person we meet to actually be able to carry on a conversation and actually be interested in things to do outside of the lifestyle. If you consider yourself super attractive and if you are right then couldn't you just find people via other avenues. Why complain when most people are average and normal and perfectly happy about it. To me this board has been an invaluable resource in getting to know this lifestyle. Why clog up the board with nonsense like this. Let's get back to helpful and fun topics.

 

we found you both quite attractive.

 

L&K

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The Beautiful People are not much fun in bed; they are too distracted watching themselves in the mirror to be sure they are "lookin' good" while they are "doin' it."

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Well crap, this thread is dying and it was so much reading pleasure for us ! And i was beginning to decode all my text messages if only THEY had written 2 or 3 more posts , i might have learned enough to become phone literate for my kids....

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Well for those who don't live in Miami might be a little hard to understand the original poster. I too agree, The majority of the Swingers that go to MiamiVelvet are very unatractive without going into details. We feel that fisical atraction has to be the major key in order to feel turn on. laughing and discusing rocket science is not going to messure the level of turn on in bed for us. Unless you like to develop a deeper relation with the other.

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thank you couple36996;;; u see they understand what im saying, u all say beautyness isnt important thats B.S .unless ur are ugly yourself, it seems like those, r the only folks that dont care about beautifull people, the ugly/fat/old/black/creepy crowd...i would like to see how many of u here that claim beatyness isnt important, if ( betty white ) was swinger & she apporchaed u and wasnt famous/rich,how many of u would have sex with her hahaha....couple36996- we have stoped going to miami velvet becuse of the lack of attractive/beautiful/up scale members , its the same ugly members walking around that say they r 30yr. but are actually like 45yr...im our honest opinion & experince a large percentage of swingers are a bunch of unattractive bo-polar/nymphomaniacts, they can have sex/cum 100times a nite and r never satisfied,its like they r chasing a high,that they never find!!

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thank you couple36996;;; u see they understand what im saying, u all say beautyness isnt important thats B.S .unless ur are ugly yourself, it seems like those, r the only folks that dont care about beautifull people, the ugly/fat/old/black/creepy crowd...i would like to see how many of u here that claim beatyness isnt important, if ( betty white ) was swinger & she apporchaed u and wasnt famous/rich,how many of u would have sex with her hahaha....couple36996- we have stoped going to miami velvet becuse of the lack of attractive/beautiful/up scale members , its the same ugly members walking around that say they r 30yr. but are actually like 45yr...im our honest opinion & experince a large percentage of swingers are a bunch of unattractive bo-polar/nymphomaniacts, they can have sex/cum 100times a nite and r never satisfied,its like they r chasing a high,that they never find!!

 

I've tried to stay out of this but I just have to say, every time you open your mouth it just makes you uglier. How shallow can you be? If we only liked people for how they looked then we would have very few friends of any type, swinger or vanilla.

 

OK we get it, you don't like people who are older than you, that are black, that aren't Barbie or ken. Good luck in life with that attitude, I'm guessing that you are not in a professional career and have to deal with all walks of people.

 

From your last statement,

swingers are a bunch of unattractive bo-polar/nymphomaniacts, they can have sex/cum 100times a nite and r never satisfied,its like they r chasing a high,that they never find

 

I am wondering if you even like sex at all, I would guess that you haven't had your world rocked.

 

And just for your information I am a middle aged, bald (by choice) sex fiend (also by choice)

Oh and BTW there is a spell check here try and use it, it might make your posts readable.

 

Good luck in life Rant over

 

K

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wow!, the swinger set..sure took my words personally hahaha.i think u r 1 of those im talking about,( the unwated group)that walk all nite thru the club smiling at beautifull women & they all do the same, turn there faces..sweet its facted of life, when ur young, good looking, white,have a killer figure even if ur the worlds biggest bitch ( which im not )everybody wants to screw you, be around you, u get invited to everybodys party etc..i know it sucks 2 b fat.old.ugly ,black.out of shape etc..its as simple as this if u want 2 screw that super hot blonde pornstar that u allways see at ur club, u have to be at her level..the last time i saw a fat/ugly couple or guy with a super hot girl at our club,she was getting paid by the hour( a hired gun) was we call them..always remember look at urself in the mirror,examine what u look like & then go after women/couples that look like you,,ive never heard of lion screwing & buzzard..well u get the point.

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when ur young, good looking, white,have a killer figure even if ur the worlds biggest bitch ( which im not )everybody wants to screw you, be around you, u get invited to everybodys party etc..if u want 2 screw that super hot blonde pornstar that u allways see at ur club, u have to be at her level...

 

Really? Wow...good thing I'm NOT looking for a super hot pornstar...As for Swinger Set, personally I find them a hot couple...It's a good thing I never ran into someone with your views when I started to first swing, and I would like to put it out there to the ones thinking of swinging that this persons views are NOT the norm in the swinging world as 99.9% of the people on here will tell you. By the way, looks have nothing to do with how good someone is in the sack K? As for being a Nympho aka a sex fiend I guess I am also LMAO I'm a multiple kind of girl and enjoy having them often and for how ever long I can (which is loooong) so barbie and ken be damned, give me someone good in bed, not a pornstar type of person concerned with looks.

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why do u say that about alabama? is there alot of ugly " colored "swingers??..becuse here in miami we have all sorts of colors running around..

 

Ok, someone hit the "Troll" button..

 

How to identify a Troll

 

Most people who identify as a troll are, unsurprisingly, 12 year old kids with nothing of value to contribute, people angered by a ban, or users upset that no one pays attention to them. As expected, the only harm they do is make themselves look like idiots. Typically their posts are overly abusive, conspicuous and badly written. The topics are generally well known to be abused by Trolls and the poster would never be able to pass for genuinely interested in their question because of it. A good troll on the other hand is usually extremely difficult to out: knowing what they’re doing, they are able to bluff through a whole argument, giving the impression that they’re truly interested in the topic while watching the whole community go down on the thread in a mass of flame wars, ad hominem attacks and much generally much anger.

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I'm usually a proponent of free speech, but when it comes to this point I do believe an IP Ban is in order...

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wow!, the swinger set..sure took my words personally hahaha.i think u r 1 of those im talking about,( the unwated group)that walk all nite thru the club smiling at beautifull women & they all do the same, turn there faces..sweet its facted of life, when ur young, good looking, white,have a killer figure even if ur the worlds biggest bitch ( which im not )everybody wants to screw you, be around you, u get invited to everybodys party etc..i know it sucks 2 b fat.old.ugly ,black.out of shape etc..its as simple as this if u want 2 screw that super hot blonde pornstar that u allways see at ur club, u have to be at her level..the last time i saw a fat/ugly couple or guy with a super hot girl at our club,she was getting paid by the hour( a hired gun) was we call them..always remember look at urself in the mirror,examine what u look like & then go after women/couples that look like you,,ive never heard of lion screwing & buzzard..well u get the point.

 

2/10

 

You do get some takers though, this isn't the most sophisticated message board in troll detection, so you got an extra point.

 

I would have handled this a bit less txt speak like as it makes it less believable and worked my way up gradually.

 

Something like.....

 

"You can't honestly expect someone like me to have sex with a fat person? No offense intended but thats disgusting. I sure if you are fat you won't admit it but we both know you would rather be with someone like me than someone like you, its just how it is."

 

or...

 

"I have nothing against black people, but I just can't see myself having sex with one. I'd feel more like I had sex with a animal, its just not a natural feeling. I really feel sorry for them because no one really wants them in swinging. "

 

I hope this helps with your future trolling endeavors :D

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well at the clubs ive have noticed a 100times black couples come in, they walk a round for hours,ofcrose the only thing they r looking for are white women with blonde hair ( thats the blk-mans obsesstion for 1000yrs)..& to be honest with u all, no body pays any attention 2 them..i will admit i have met a few black women that r very nice & beautiful . but there men are the pitts!!..

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I don't think CarrySmith is a troll, y'all. She's will have been around two years next September. Trolls don't usually last that long.

 

She's just young, conceited, egotistical, poorly educated, and prejudiced. Just accept her posts for what they are and assign your own value to them. Remember: "What Peter says about Paul says more about Peter than it does about Paul." After all, differing opinions are what make discussions ... well, discussions. It is not a requirement to make sense to post here.

 

Alura

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It is not a requirement to make sense to post here.

 

Alura

 

That's good because I often don't make sense! ;):lol:

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I promised myself to stay out of this given my recent history with flame wars and trolls. But I am weak..............

 

carrysmith - I am sure whatever I and others say to you will have no impact on your world view. In fact I am not even sure your post are anything other than trolling, at least I hope not, because it is a pretty sad view of life you have if it is for real.

 

I support everyone's right to have preferences. What we like and dislike is what makes us unique. Being unique is a good thing. But beauty is a subjective thing. What each person finds attractive is different. I have dated some women that I had to beat men back with a stick, and dated women that others were not as attracted too. I found them all attractive regardless of what others thought.

 

I think of myself as an average guy, but like I said, I have dated women that other men were falling over themselves to date, perhaps I make up for not being a 10 in the looks category with a personality, and some level of intellect, both of which you seem to be severely lacking. To say nothing of your bigoted and racist mentality and utter lack of class.

 

While I doubt your self description of being a 10+, I will give you the benefit of doubt. What we can see is your personality and intellect, and that is clearly on the other end of the scale.

 

I have no idea what the clientele of Miami Velvet is like, but I find it difficult to believe that there are absolutely no people there you could find attractive. However, I am not at all surprised that you are unable to find suitable playmates. It would not take long for anyone to quickly find out how unappealing you are. Perhaps that is why they are all so ugly, once they turn you down they become ugly in your eyes. A classic scenario for people with such revolting personalities. Fortunately I have met very few people like you and even fewer that would find you attractive regardless of how appealing the outside package.

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I don't think CarrySmith is a troll, y'all. She's will have been around two years next September. Trolls don't usually last that long.

 

She's just young, conceited, egotistical, poorly educated, and prejudiced. Just accept her posts for what they are and assign your own value to them. Remember: "What Peter says about Paul says more about Peter than it does about Paul." After all, differing opinions are what make discussions ... well, discussions. It is not a requirement to make sense to post here.

 

Alura

 

You are probably right my friend, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

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I've been meaning to get over to this thread and make a post.

 

This is just a general reminder to all, differing opinions are what make forum discussions interesting. Whether Carrysmith is a troll or not is not for me to say. They may well be. They may just be ignorant people who have no grasp on the English language (there's no maybe about the last part). The upside of their threads is that they unite the rest of us who do wonder where they come from and how they could possible be.

 

My one suggestion is to "keep your heads about you". If they get under your skin, ignore them. You can do this one of two ways, either by avoiding their threads or by actually adding them to your ignore list (yes that is an available function here). To add a user to your ignore list, simply go to your UserCP (top menu), scroll down until you see the option that says "edit ignore list", it will be in the list on the left-hand side of the page. And, sorry, but you can't choose to ignore me :)

 

Now, I have to give credit, threads like this are eternally entertaining, but CarrySmith this warning goes to you (just as to everyone else). Whether you like someone or not you are required to treat them with respect, at least around here. If you choose to start throwing out personal attacks you will start working your way towards a ban.

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Folk will never ignore threads like this, becuse in the usa we r obssed with drama,conterversy, & entertainment..thats y the tv is full of reality shows & the rating go thru the roof,, if a naked person walks down the side walk in nyc..what happens? Some say omg he is nasty,others say thats cool, but the common thing is we all cant stop looking & comenting about it..

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If you are young and attractive, the attractive people will find you if you are patient. It won't happen overnight, unless you get lucky. There are pockets of "lifestyle" people who don't spend much time on the internet or at typical parties and clubs (at least in major cities).

 

We asked the same question, and eventually, water found it's level for us. I'm not saying this to be egotistical, and I'm neither too young, conceited, or uneducated. To be perfectly honest, the biggest difference is not the attractiveness of the women, either. It's more about the men.

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YES I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.. SURE WE HAVE FOUND A HANDFULL OF COUPLES THAT MEET OUR STANDARDS & THE WIFE LOOKS FANTASTIC. WITH AGES WE R PRETTY OPEN AS LONG AS U LOOK GOOD.20'S,30'S,40'S EVEN EARLY 50'S JUST LOOK GOOD IN GENERAL,DONT HAVE A BANGING BODY & A FACE LIKE A HORSE!!..BUT WE USUALY GET DISCOURAGED FROM DOING ANYTHING WITH COUPLES WHEN WE SEE THE HUSBAND (yuck)...WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME AT CLUBS,AT THE CLUB WE GO TO,THERE'S COUPLE ID SAY EARLY 50'S THE WIFE LOOKS GORGEOUS( plastic surgery allover 4 the record)SHES GOT A GREAT ATTITUDE,NOW HER HUSBAND OMG!,,WHAT CAN I SAY LOOKS LIKE FRAKENSTINE & THE FUNNYTHING IS HE IS A PLASTIC SURGEN(hahaha)..I SEE ALOT OF GIRLS/GUYS WANTS 2 PLAY WITH HER, BUT THEY GIVE HIM THE COLD SHOULDER & THEN HE GETS MAD & START YELLING AT HIS WIFE....OUR THEORY IS U WANT 2 PLAY WITH BARBIE,TRY 2 LOOK LIKE KEN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE....MEN DONT EVEN DRESS UP ANYMORE 2 GO TO CLUBS GEZZZZ...I CALL THE SLUB GENERATION...

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In most cases, time has a way of seeing to it that men suffer more from it's effects than do women. This is especially true where the male member of a couple is or was the sole wage earner in the union and it was through his efforts that his spouse was able to benefit from the alterations that kept her pleasing to others. Often, had he spent the funds on HIS looks there may not have been anything left to budget toward hers.

In any event, as long as they keep the bickering to themselves and don't include others, what is there to complain about?:confused:

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Maybe it's just where you are looking...try to find and attend events that draw in the nice looking couples and be sure to look your best!:kissface:

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In most cases, time has a way of seeing to it that men suffer more from it's effects than do women. This is especially true where the male member of a couple is or was the sole wage earner in the union and it was through his efforts that his spouse was able to benefit from the alterations that kept her pleasing to others. Often, had he spent the funds on HIS looks there may not have been anything left to budget toward hers.

In any event, as long as they keep the bickering to themselves and don't include others, what is there to complain about?:confused:

 

I think you are right in some cases. Man women are attracted to men who can provide a certain lifestyle or security. They are generally more likely to look past physical appearance when it comes to long term partners. Women are also less likely to have a midlife crisis and upgrade.

 

Sometimes, however, it's just genetics, pure luck, plain and simple.

 

I've ALWAYS looked very young for my age. I hit puberty late, and I hated it in my early to mid 20's when I looked like a teenager. Both my mom and dad are the same way, and they had marriage, kids, heavy responsibility in their early 20's. At 22, I only had to shave every three days. I hated it then, but I love it now! My play partner though I was lying when told her I was 38, and it's not like I'm in perfect shape. I've kept reasonably fit, but I've never had a six pack. I'm lucky enough to have frame that carries an extra 10-15 lbs very well, and I'm lucky the baldness gene missed me.

 

Just so I don't sound full of myself, I know as a fact at in a few cases, I wasn't up to par for the female. Sometimes it's just personal taste, and some women, my wife included, are VERY picky. I've been shocked a few times by guys my wife declines and sometimes guys she chooses, but she's never been interested in anybody that looked even close to "middle aged."

 

For us, it really was just a matter of being patient. At almost every event we attend, there is at least one other that catches our interested. We have have a pretty good record of playing with those couples, and now, we've managed to get hooked up with a group that's a mixture of young swingers/ open relationship/poly-ish people.

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ugh....just from this thread, I can tell you...if you do meet any folks who meet your standard of "pretty" (which sounds like you want them all to have just come off the runway), assuming they themselves have any brains or personality, I would not blame them in the least if they told you to go away.

 

I have met a lot of "hot" people, who come after me because of my age and looks. As soon as 99% of them open their mouths, I want to run the other way. To the point that I tend to assume that if you are really hot, you must be an ass.

 

I'll take normal attractive with a fun personality, or even a bit below average with a great personality any day over "hot" who walks around thinking their sh*t doesn't stink.

 

Not to sound bitchy, but....get over yourselves and have some fun, or get out of swinging and go back to "regular" clubs.

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Troll. And I've noticed he.... sorry, she, has referred to him......, sorry again, herself as a women.

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we have been doing these sexy parties at a nice hotel once a month 100% free if ur accepted & we r very selective as to whom we invite,we only let u in if ur attractive,in shape,afluent & under 40yrs old,there are acceptions like a couple we let in they were 52 but they looked amazeing!!..and its funny on facebook, tweeter & a few other websites, the list of e-mails/photos we get is crazy, but unfortunately 80% of the people inquiering dont meet our standards...we love the e-mails that say, that they want to meet a super skinky 18yr old they saw in 1 of our party pixs,im like ok sure, but when the couple sends there pixs over 2 us,,ewwwwwwwwwwww,,,i simply write back, loose 50lbs,hit the gym hard or go see a plastic surgen,send me new pixs & u will meet that skinny 18yr old,if u are aproved...like ive allways said if u want 2 play with barbie,u have 2 look like ken!!...90% of the time that u see ither male/female thats young & beautifull in a relashinship with some 1 old & unattractive,its for $$$ reasons..miami is a breeding ground for that, we have freinds that are 22yr model type, dating a 55yr old attonrey & the min, he leaves her home, she calls her real boyfreind thats 22 and sexy looking... it sucks to be old,fat & ugly plain and simple!!

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My spidy senses tell me carrysmith is not real. Too many tell tale signs along the way. Perhaps it is just the staggering disbelief of how ignorant they/she/he come across to allow me to believe it is for real.

 

Regardless, even the most vapid people we have met in the lifestyle would not put up with the attitudes displayed by this poster. I cannot see them having much success, at anything.

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Ouch. Ok, ill make a mental note to stay out of Florida lest we get laughed out...and avoid overly superficial, conceited, toxic and just plain hurtful people at all costs. Maybe an ego check is in order, not everyone is going to think your as great as you do all the time. Id really hate karma to come around and point out your flaws. Before you judge anyones' outer "unattractiveness", take a good look at your own inside.

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Ivorie, not everyone in South Florida are flaming idiots like these two. We have met and enjoyed a lot of attractive and fun couples of all ages since we moved here in 2006. Come on down, our sun is warm, our ocean sparkles and our trees and grass is always green. Winter in Upstate NY is brutal, come south, get naked and get a tan and meet some nice couples too. Notice, we wrote an entire paragraph without mis spellings, with punctuation and without the use of silly and nearly incomprehensible text shorthand. There IS intelligent life in Florida, Carrysmith is not numbered among us!

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While I've made my opinion of this thread already known, this in itself isn't an unreasonable question.

 

Its a lot easier to find out of shape, didn't take care of themselves swingers than in shape, watch their lifestyle types. Being the swinging population as a whole is not a lot different than the non-swinger population (and the couples cruise I just went on really verified this), you can expect most to mirror the general trends in America. Out of shape, and overweight, plus add on years of smoking for some (which can really age the face of a woman), as well as over tanning, and by 45 most don't look very attractive physically anymore.

 

Add that most swingers don't seem to really start until their 40's, and for younger couples this can be quite disappointing. We talked to several this week who were exactly that, disappointed.

 

The difference is I'm not mad, I'm jealous. I wish my brain would let go of some of its sexual prejudices in whats attractive to me and whats not, because I KNOW I'd have a lot more fun.

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Wow.

 

Please let me defend Florida swingers, while we've only been 'Florida' swingers for a couple of months now, we've been swingers for much longer.

 

In the 2 months we've been here, we have met some of the most amazing, beautiful, kind, loving, sweet and amazing people you'd ever want to meet, and we don't ever want to leave. (Anyone reading these words who knows the term Swing Break and spent the last few days wearing a wrist band probably knows us!)

 

Are we all 22-year-old hardbodies? Hell no. This is the real world, the one portrayed by Playboy-TV is a nice fantasy, but it doesn't exist in reality. And thank goodness it doesn't, otherwise our lifestyle would be a dead end after 25, which those of us older than that know comes way too quickly.

 

Anyway, I won't ramble on, god knows I could really go deep into the rabbit hole, but suffice it to say that the OP in this case does not represent the Florida Swingers we know and love.

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not every body has a rock hard body or a beautifull face, but my qouestion is why not find a solution 4 that imperfection.. a little jogging,crunches, cardio & plastic surgery isnt all that hard to get....simply put 90% of the citizens in usa looks disgusting...and i have another qouestion. whats with some many swingers, having (LEATHER FACES),there faces look like they have been smoking-drinking- doing dope & sleeping 2 hours a week since they were born..Another thing i want to bring up, dispite what sooooo many people here say, there

s alot of drugs with in the swingers world !!!...blow being the main 1 & the new xtassy pils( which is mainly meth) just so u all know b4 u take it agin...at the club we go to, it seems no 1 can have a good time and end the nite without taking a few bumps of blow or an xtassy pill, i love to see the line of folks going in?out the bathroom all rubbing there noses & asking there freind if there nose is clean on the outside hahaha...or i love this 1, taking 10 trips to there car outside with in 1 hour to do blow hahaha...

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I've been a beer drinker for a long time but I've never heard of Xtassy Pils. Is it similar to Bitburger Pils or Pilsner Urquel?

 

For someone who is down on drugs, Carry, you surely know all the slang terms. I thought "blow" was a sex act.

 

Alura

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simply put 90% of the citizens in usa looks disgusting.

 

Well, then, do the rest of us a favor and find the 10% who meet your (unrealistic) standards and have fun with them. In the meantime, those of us who realize that Playboy TV is unrealistic fantasy will have fun with our 30- and 40- and 50-something non-perfect friends, and go home having enjoyed a good time, even if it wasn't with flawless pornstars.

 

You may be hotter than this months Playmate of the Month, but given your attitude, I wouldn't fuck you with Charlie Sheen's dick.

 

Sorry.

 

And rest assured, I'm no underwear model. But I have hundreds of friends that share a mutual love. Which is way more important than making you have the most recent plastic surgery to look perfect.

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( Alure ) not to be rude or anything,but what city or planet ru living in sweety??..u have never heard of xtassy or blow ( cocaine),,,miami is the drug capital of the eastcoast & posibly the country, thats how i know all the drug BS...its really hard down here 2 find some one that isnt into any drugs at all,me & my husband being 1 of them..we have had to cut soooo many of so called freinds out cuse of drug use..now i know y folks from small town america come 2 miami freakout when they hit the clubs here & then 6months later end up living here & completley jumped head 1st,into the party/drug world......i would love 2 drug test everybody at a swingers club on a sat.nite hahaha..90% of the club(including the clubs staff) i promise u would test positve for some ilegal dope..hahaha...........keep drinking beer sweetheart.....(knb2004) 1st of all,no u wouldnt fuck me with charlie sheens dick,his cock gets plenty of action from pornstar,in which im 99.99999999%sure ur cock doesnt!! hahaha,,,u would probaly beg me all nite & throw ur wife at me as bait( so common & i hate it)if u saw me and my girlfreinds at the club,wearing only a garterbelt,stockings and 6in,spiked heels,,soooo what ever,,why am i even writing to you, god, let me go throw up!!!

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( Alure ) not to be rude or anything,but what city or planet ru living in sweety??

 

Tulsa, Oklahoma, Darlin'. It says so right under my name. I'm just a hick Okie and I don't do hard drugs.

 

Alura

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god bless u 4 not doing drugs,many times i wished i was in a small town too...miami is super beautifull, but it seems u cant find 1person that doesnt do drugs here..

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why am i even writing to you, god, let me go throw up!!!

 

Please do. Don't go away angry. Just go away.

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      It was a fairly typical night at D.J.s Island, an early autumn evening. Mary and I hadn’t set anything up in advance, we’d decided to go almost at the last moment. From the second we entered the door our radar was beaming across the club, searching for a couple that might be searching for what we were also interested in - an enjoyable tryst.
       
      Mary took a few minutes to change into what she called a ‘trolling outfit.’ As I remember, that night it was a black babydoll with a loose bodice, thong, low heels. Many men admired her legs as I checked the forty or so women, many as scantily clad as my wife. None of our regular playmates seemed to be in attendance that evening, but we had our customs, we weren’t concerned. Perhaps an hour and a half later, I sat at a table next to the dance floor, Mary was on her feet, on the parquet, moving her body, seeing if anyone would move in. A slow sequence of men approached her, danced with her. Some would take liberties such as moving their hands under her garment, feeling the small of her back, perhaps place their palm on the roundness of her ass.
       
      I’d seen this many times before, I waited for one of two reactions.
       
      The first was that she’d spin away from the man; it signified she wasn’t interested in what he had to offer.
       
      The second was that she’d get closer, I’d watch her whisper in his ear. I knew the question, “Where’s your wife?” Some of them would shake their heads, they were attending as one of the few single men the club allowed, and when they received Mary’s response, they’d move away - that’s not what we were looking for at the moment.
       
      But the man might indicate where his wife was dancing a few feet away. When this kind of thing happened, Mary would glance to me and give our special signal - she’d put one hand on the back of her head, one on her stomach. When I got the cue, I’d come out, we’d dance as a foursome.
       
      As I approached, a man grasped the elbow of a tall attractive lady who was more modestly dressed, at least for the club. There was no conversation on the dance floor, the heavy volume of music and the thumping of the bass wouldn’t allow for speech. But I could tell the woman was interested in me, the four of us paired off and I often found myself facing this vixen. It was obvious they were as interested in us as I was in them, I could tell by the way Mary was rubbing against the man that she felt the same.
       
      After a couple of songs, Mary led the way off the floor, holding his hand, leading us off into a corner away from the speakers. As we sat, the man said, “I’m Ed, this is my wife, Marilyn.”
       
      Marilyn and I softly shook hands, I believe she raised the hem of her skirt to give me a view of her upper thighs. Ed had no problem seeing Mary’s legs, or where they met - she was sitting so that the babydoll was gathered to her side, leaning forward so her globes were exposed to his view.
       
      “Do you come here often?” Ed asked.
       
      “Every few weeks,” I responded, “you?”
       
      “This is our first time here.” Mary gave him a look that asked for further info. “We’re just starting this,” he admitted.
       
      Marilyn picked it up. “We’ve only had one time with a couple of friends. We liked it, heard about this place, decided to see if we could get into more trouble.”
       
      “Trouble’s our middle name,” I joked.
       
      Our conversation continued, where do you live, what movies have you seen lately, etc. It was a screen, of course, we were all calculating if the four of us would be pleasurable bedmates. I paid my attention to Marilyn, my wife had told me numerous times not to worry about her, she can take care of herself. My hand found Marilyn’s knee, she smiled at me, encouraged me to reach a tad higher. We bent towards each other, our mouths met.
       
      Marilyn opened her lips to me, the kiss was ardent, her mouth moist. She licked at my upper lip, her hand fondled the back of my neck. Our tongues clashed, promising cupidity, mimicking what I presumed our bodies might be doing in a few scant moments.
       
      We broke for a moment, Marilyn invited, “Would you guys want to go to one of the rooms?”
       
      I, of course, was all for it, but then I heard Mary. “Uh, not right now. But thanks.”
       
      We’ve always had the guideline that if one person doesn’t want to do something, she speaks for both of us. Regretfully, I pecked at Marilyn’s lips a last time, we stood, went separate ways.
       
      “You’re not upset, are you?” Mary asked me.
       
      “Of course not, not at all. You’re not in the mood?”
       
      “Oh, I’m in the mood all right, just not with Ed.”
       
      “Something wrong with him?” I asked.
       
      “I tried to get him interested,” Mary revealed, “but his kiss was a little cold, indifferent. I put my hand on his leg, he was too busy watching you and Marilyn, he never responded. My guess is that if we went into a room, he’d be watching you two, I’m not even sure he’d get hard for me.” It was a reasonable thought, it had happened to us a couple times before. “Hope you don’t mind, bet she’d have been a firecracker.”
       
      “Maybe. But you’re a firecracker too.”
       
      We headed back to the dance floor, in search of another couple.
    • By Miss Sunshine
      i may be considered a snob but I like to see and lick a pussy that doesn't have too much hanging labia (gets in the way). I like a bigger clit, one you can suck on, mmmmm. I had an experience with another lady once that when she was aroused, her clit swelled to the point it looked like a very small cock, we rubbed pussies together and I could actually feel some penetration, it was very nice to suck.
       
      Cocks, I need them circumsized, sorry. size doesn't matter but once in awhile I love to run into a huge one.
       
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    • By NotnewNotpros
      We were really clicking with a couple. It was going great. Taking our time. Really getting to know them. Taking the sex part slowly. We decide to have an over night away. We didn’t care if it didn’t go fully to sex...and the wife freaked out. Can’t do. Can’t be open etc..:so had a decent rest of the weekend and such and of course we respect that but I’m getting so tired of putting in time and effort. We had a wonderful poly thing for two years two years ago and we’d love to find it again and I understand you can’t force anything and such but to keep meeting people and putting in time and effort for it to end is getting defeating.
    • By NotnewNotpros
      As a couple we are somewhere in between swinging and poly. I don’t need full on love but enjoy the playfulness of the “crush” and boyfriend/girlfriend crush feelings.
       
      We are slowly proceeding with this with a new couple. Who is also new to the LS. We’ve been there in the past and really enjoyed this type of thing.
       
      My “issue” is that the female is very playful and chatty. But her and my husband talk more sexy and more often than she and I do. It doesn’t make me jealous at all, I just would love it too!! The male half is great in person but the chatting and flirting has really slowed down since we’ve played a few times. He seems to be cautious when it comes to sexting. So much fun for my husband and I feel like a little blah...bland. I just want a little more fun and excitement (chat wise) considering we aren’t able to see each other often. She and I can hang out but they want to stick to the “rule of 3” for now.
       
      So it’s hard to get to know him more without having some alone time and minimal (slightly bland) chat.
       
      We really like them and it’s been a long time since we’ve found such good 4 way chemistry.
       
      Any advice? And how often do you chat and what is your expectations?
    • By sunbuckus
      I have heard from several members here that the more they get to know a couple, the less they want to have sex with them. Maybe we just haven't been fortunate enough to get to know a couple that well that it reaches that point or maybe I'm not wired that way. Or perhaps there's something else in play (like maybe they meant in terms of seeing them pick their nose or exhibit an unbecoming personality trait). However, for myself, I have found that the more we talk and get to know a couple, the more comfortable I feel with them and I'm more interested in engaging with them in sex. In fact, finding more about other couples almost endears them to me. I know that sounds too intimate but the more I get to know a person, the more I care about them as a person and their well-being. Even if we witness something that is a turn-off, it's even more of a reminder to me that they aren't perfect...not some unattainable, flawless couple who sits on their lofty pedestal.
       
      Is this feeling felt more in those who are open to poly or is it not poly-specific? Is the desire of not wanting to know too much about another couple a "protective barrier" so feelings won't develop? Is it just the mindset that swinging is for sex and nothing else so everything outside of that is irrelevant? Or am I just looking too much into this? Please share your thoughts on the matter!
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