Palatex

Sounds like your 1-3 rules are pretty much identical to ours. She, however, is free to experiment with other women if she chooses to. Other "rules" I suppose can be flexible, but the only hard and fast rule (to coin a phrase) we have is that anything we do in this "lifestyle", we do it together - period. We're a package deal.

My wife and I were considering the same cruise, but right now we just have too much up in the air to consider it right now... but it is nice to know there are more people out there like us than I thought, and now that I know some might be taking this cruise... might be time to get the wheels turning to make it happen.

I figure if you and your spouse are OK with playing alone, fine. But, while the popular saying is "never say never", I can faithfully say no matter what my wife and I do in this "lifestyle", we're a package deal.

Oh I dunno, as far as any couples or friends we "seek", I refer to the loose philosophy on pornography, in that I can't describe it... but I know it when I see it. Hell if folks into the hardcore lifestyle (or ANY lifestyle) wish to befriend us, we're very cool with that as long as they understand our boundaries. If they wish to not bother with people like us due to our oddball nature, that's cool too, I know we're not going to appeal to everyone (from what I've seen here, those types of folks will have NO problem finding other people to "play" with).

fun4Ds, it's all good and thanks for the kind and supporting words. And yes I hope to stick around even though we may not be your typical poster here with the usual circumstances. I've already met some really good people so my brief stay here has already yielded some positive results. I'm beginning to think we should have come here first before we started anything, but what the hell... better late than never, no?

Well Mrs Sav, I thought most people understood my first post after I explained it in subsequent posts, but it apparently eluded you for some reason, so... let's try this again. Am I perfect? No. Does everyone want to see me nekkid? Don't know and honestly don't care. I don't go to "parties" thinking that everyone there will be supermodels and Playboy bunnies. So... Got that? Still with me? OK, let's move on. When my wife and I started to go to various nudist resorts, the one thing we were hoping to find was perhaps some people of our age range that we could meet and have some common ground with. Most people we saw there were elderly rotund folks (sorry, but that's just a fact) that while I'm sure were very nice people, just weren't people that we could "associate" with for various reasons, mainly because we just didn't have anything in common other than a desire to be naturists (hell, they probably wouldn't want to associate with us either). Again, whether or not they were nice average people is beside the point. I'm sure Mother Theresa or Andy Griffith are very nice people, but be honest - if you had a choice, are they people you really desire to see strutting around naked? (answer: NO, you do not). Bottom line, WE KNOW that "real life" people are very often the most beautiful people where it matters most. Physical attraction isn't always everything. But let's say you're a big rock music fan and you decide to go to a really big musical jamboree festival where all they're playing is, I dunno... GOSPEL. You may have an OK time there but you're really not going to enjoy yourself because ultimately it's not what you were expecting. Now, is there anything wrong with gospel music? No. Is there anything wrong with the people who like gospel music? No. But, is it really what you were expecting? Again... no. So, what do you do? You go try to find a really big musical jamboree festival where you might have a better time that plays the kind of music you can relate to, and people that you have something in common with. That is what we're trying to do. Are you starting to feel me now? If not, well I gave it a shot. Here endeth the lesson.

Thanks, nice to know we aren't the only "shallow" ones out there J/K... by the way, what is this "barn"? I've heard others make mention of it also... is it something here in town? JM153, we do plan on visiting the Chateau probably sometime next year since the weather is getting colder, heard they have some interesting activities every so often. Hoping to meet some "regulars" before we go, maybe to give us some pointers and be our "wing people"

Hey Shrevecouple, what are the odds? lol Good to see someone else from our neck of the woods. The "club" we went to was one in Dallas and it was several months ago - we haven't necessarily sworn off ever doing something like that again, but it wasn't a good first impression, especially after understanding that "no" was supposed to mean no - but stuff happens, whaddya gonna do. Haven't been to the Chateau here in town - been talking about it, but just haven't taken that plunge yet. Actually you and my wife sound like you have a lot in common, it'd be cool to meet someone here who's actually local. Hope to see you around again soon.

Oh for the love of god, RELAX. I didn't mean to be disparaging to anyone, it's just that after years of cussing and discussing, my wife and I finally agreed to get into this style of living and was just getting to be a bit discouraged as to what was out there for us, or what our options were (if any). I guess we were expecting more than what actually happened and I suppose I might have let my frustration get the better of me in my original post, guess that's my "bad". I'm still not sure, guess we've got a lot more soul-searching to do, and we'd certainly be happy to have the help of you fine people to guide us along - even yours, JandT_Elkhart... And, for the record, if anyone at any age with any kind of body build wishes to get naked at their local resort, by all means more power to them. I'm pushing 240 myself and I'm sure I'll probably be one of those folks I was referring to here in about 10-15 years at the rate I'm going.

Greetings all, new to the board and glad to be with all of you. A little background, I'm in my early 40s and my wife is in mid-30s. We're both DINKs (double-income no kids), both white with brown hair and eyes (wife is absolutely smokin' hot Spanish gal with the dark hair and eyes with a killer athletic body to boot). We're both "naturists" in that we like to get naked and have a little fun. We've tried out a few nudist resorts but are overall disappointed in that the clientele at such places were about 98% very old and/or very large unappealing people (great personalities, mind you, but definitely NOT something you want to see naked). Our "wild" side dictates we would like to go to a place where there is more of an erotic atmosphere without seeing our naked overweight grandparents ruining the moment. I guess you could call us "soft swingers" in that we love to watch and be with others in intimate moments, but we would never go so far as actually do the "swapping" part. We have yet to be able to do any of this, but we're looking forward to the opportunity someday - if it ever presents itself! We actually went to a swingers club once after reviewing all the "rules" and were made to understand that "no meant no", but apparently some guy there didn't get the memo and was groping my wife's leg after about 5 minutes after talking to him and his wife (even after we told him were weren't there to "swing"), so that experience unfortunately went bust. I should say we have nothing against swingers or swinging - it actually seems they are more within our age group and most aren't 300 pound escapees from the local assisted living centers like you seem to see at every nudist resort. We've been considering a "lifestyle" cruise, but again, since we aren't actual swingers, would we be out of place in such an atmosphere? We love to get naked with everyone and play around - but with each other. Anyone have any experiences on such a cruise? Is there a place for us "soft-swingers"? I know this is long-winded and for that I apologize (and if you're still reading, thank you!). I guess my ultimate question is... is there a place out there for people like us? I know we can't be the only oddballs out there like us... but I'm beginning to think we are!