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This is something I haven't really understood and thought I could get some guidance from the masses here! Holli & Michael are kinda the celebrity faces of swingers and swinging. They are at a lot of swinger events as celebrities and the voice of swinger experience and knowledge to the non-swinger world. Here's my question: They aren't really even "swingers" in the sense that the vast majority of us define the term. I mean, unless there's something we don't know, they aren't a "full-swap" couple in that she doesn't play with other guys. Now, let me be VERY clear: I'm NOT saying that "swingers" only encompass "full-swap" or where both couples swap. Swinging is a very broad term. With that said, I would like a couple that's, in effect, representing "swinging" to be a couple that has vast amounts of experience doing the thing that most "swingers" do: Couple full-swap. I mean, there are all these vanilla news interviews with them where they share their experiences and say stuff like "Swinging has been great for our relationship! etc." ... but they aren't "swinging" in the sense that most of us (and the rest of the vanilla population) would interpret "swinging". Again, I have no issues with them. They are cool people and we've even met them a couple times. I'm just bummed that the "face of swinging" is a couple that isn't really "swinging" (in the sense of the word that *most* people will understand it. So, am I the only one that feels this way? Here's their site for more info: Holli and Michael | Holli and Michael -
Does anyone know if Playboy's show "Swing" is still on or not and if so do you know where you can go to watch it other than ordering the playboy channel? We saw the first season of it and really liked it and it sparked some good conversations between us. I was hoping to watch more of that. Also are there any other good shows similar to that?
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There actually is a Swingers reality show on PlayboyTV called Swing. Playboy TV I've never seen it, but the concept is this: Every week we will be inviting a new couple to our weekend retreat and mixing them with veteran swingers and trained sex experts. Some will find it brings them closer, while others will get torn apart
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A primer article appears in the September 2008 issue of playboy. One of the symbols they point out: WWM is something we have never used? Simply the WMW may or may not involve WW play. Are there any you found new/interesting?
