We talked about it from our first date. We had both been the single in threesomes. That was the extent that he had experience. İ on the other hand had been in a foursome and fivesome on a fairly regular basis. İ also made sure that he knew i was serious about it and i wanted to make sure he could handle it past the stage of only threesomes. On our second date i took him to a swingers club that of course he had no idea existed. On our first date it was a short, sweet kiss and that was it. On our second date when we walked in to the club the owner came and kissed me. He signed all of his membership papers, we took him on a tour of the club(he had never been in one). When we finished i excused myself to change. İ walked out with a thong and 6"stiletto's which made me over 6' tall. He was shocked. Then i got a full body painting done by an artist there. Made it into his portfolio too. Then my friend the owner and a really close friend tied me to the St. Andrew's Cross and both whipped me for about 30 minutes til the welt stage. İ was so relaxed after that and the others that had been watching were so worked up that everyone was fucking on the furniture right by us. İ gave both of my Dom's a kiss, took my date by the hand and brought him to a semi-private room(wasn't sure if he could handle people watching or not. Needless to say when we got to the room he was ready. Best sex of my life. We have been together every since. We have gone on trips all over the US to swingers clubs but our favorite is our local one ten minutes from our home. So we have been swingers from day one.