lcmim

This just a hint from , just one, grandparent. WE consider our time watching the kids so that they can have some fun a very worthwhile thing. My wife gets a bang out of the fact that our daughter and her husband still spontaneously hold hands at the odd moments. Seeing our children behaving like they are in love after years and many of their own children make us both happy. It might not be all that difficult to get redo's from your folks. By the way we and they are under know illusions as to what causes the goofy grins after a time alone. I think that they now understand our goofy grins also.

How any of US felt has little, if any relation as to how YOU might feel. Look inside of yourself, be honest, make your best guess. If it is worth the risk, take it. This is one of those "You never know until you know." sort of things

Two thoughts occurred to me from your post. First, it has been my experience that one is, more often than not, going to find what they expect to find. Second is that while you may truly be the best thing since sliced bread, that is going to get you no where unless others see it. That is the reason for the "date" For most of us being with people of like mind does not insure having sex. We expect to be able to relate to playmates at something more than a gonadal level.

You say this is new to you after several years. Is this divergence manifest in other areas of your life? It might be a good time to do an in depth assessment both individual and as a couple. Somehow this looks more like a symptom than the problem.

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Even with my parameters I would say you are part of the community . People worry way too much about labels. The labels are important when trying to be precise, otherwise , not so much.

I would say "swinger" No. Quite possibly on that road. In the sexual freedom LS? Yes. Then again I tend to draw fairly narrow margins involving ENM with an actual spouse or long term life partner.

OP... Really?? Not in our experience. Troll much?

The responses will come from both sides of the gender divide. It is up to her to take what is of value.

Physically that ratio is about correct. I have used that argument when part of planning for group parties that wanted to exclude single guys. I am married , but the ratio is still good.I think some guys worry about the competition. Being realistic I know that a woman who is really in the mood can destroy 3 guys in a day. Another thing that I point out to the "married only" proponents is that we are all just one heartbeat away from being single, especially as we age.

Setting up something to be manipulative may sometimes work in business. The potential for disaster is too high, as well as dishonest. In this context. From what you have said David was NOT manipulating you. It has always sounded like David is a truly grounded person, for whom this was a genuine and acceptable option, and not someone playing you with the long game. I was just warning not to do this unless this was the case for the OP.

Only do this if it is something that you actually want not as a means to an end.

You handled it well. There are to many unknowns in place to stir the pot.

Other than one that I or someone I trust very well I am about as likely to to even get into a hot tub as I am to swim in their toilet. That includes hotels and clubs. I have made the exception in hotels when the chlorine made my eyes water.

ACCEPT. I strongly suspect. those who knew you and might imagine a chance to participate.