I think this can some up people's feeling about this. I for one am straight and do meet couples. Since I started doing this, and thankfully a woman in this lifestyle schooled me so to speak, I get to know people first and find out if was are compatible. Then I found out what they want/boundries and I tell them mine. Then I don't cross it or beg the question again. I've been told once. I have met a couple where the hubby did oral to a guy cause it got the woman off however I did not want this and they were comfortable with it and honestly I think the hubby was actually relieved but that is a side note. Today however I got this extremely close-minded individual IMing me on Yahoo. The word open-minded has been thrown around a lot here and if you watch, many of the same issues come up in my IM during which I politely declined stating why but his persistence led to my anger and defensiveness. I think that is what the straight couples here are getting at. They are openmined to what others do but they don't want it forced on them because an apparent majority of the swinging population do engage in something they would rather not. (please excuse the length)
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ddikr69: Hi
rocco701: wassup..
ddikr69: not much
ddikr69: what about you?
rocco701: just chatting with potential partner for fun..
ddikr69: would that be me?
rocco701: that would be cool..
ddikr69: what kind of partner are you looking for?
rocco701: telll me your stats..
ddikr69: curious cause not much in on your profile
rocco701: and what are you into..
rocco701: 27, 5'11", 165#, very god looks, 6.5", cut....u?
ddikr69: 23, 5'10", 170#, good looks, 6 cut.
ddikr69: you do realize that I'm a guy right?
rocco701: yes... am bi..
ddikr69: ah
ddikr69: I see
rocco701: like to have fun..
ddikr69: what site did you find my screen name at?
rocco701: some kind of swingers's site in Central Illinois..
ddikr69: ah
ddikr69: I'm in a few of those
rocco701: where are you located at?.
ddikr69: quit a few too
ddikr69: chicago
ddikr69: you?
rocco701: central illinois..but frequent Chicago a lot..i might be there this coming Fri..if not,next week..
rocco701: maybe we can hook up..
ddikr69: thats cool
ddikr69: thing is
ddikr69: I prefer to meet couples
rocco701: would love to orally service you discreetly in my hotel room..
ddikr69: and I'm not bi
rocco701: i like straight guys...openminded ones...most guys i orally serviced and hooked up with me ar straight guys..they love the way i deepthroat them into completio...we just have to be discreet..
rocco701: been sucked by a guy before?..
ddikr69: I met a woman from Central IL that does that....she was good
ddikr69: no I haven't
rocco701: need to experience it at least once..just like all other guys..
ddikr69: may I ask why?
rocco701: i believe i do it better than anyone else..that's what these guys all told me..they can't believe i really can suck well....of course am selective..
rocco701: they say am better than any girl they had before..
ddikr69: so then you're a hoover
rocco701: lol..
ddikr69: you would have to be pretty good
rocco701: i must like the guy first...talk to him..build that desire....then meet for a drink..get horny in my room by waching a porn movie..then hed lie back and would show him the best oral service..
ddikr69: that sounds good but let me tell you this
ddikr69: I met one couple and the wife got off of her hubby sucking guys cocks
rocco701: i would use that figure of 8 technique where i would twirl my tongue around it while i suck you deep and slow with my tight warm lips around your hard cock..
ddikr69: suffice to say he didn't suck mine
ddikr69: and from the looks of it only did it to satisfy her
ddikr69: done that before
ddikr69: thats nothing new
rocco701: that was no good then...
ddikr69: no
ddikr69: meeting them was great
ddikr69: but the guy wasn't going to be sucking my dick
ddikr69: and they still want to see me again
rocco701: we'll maybe you need to experience it once from mme..and you'd see..but it's up to you...had few offers...2 lined up for me when i go there...some young curious guys...who loves oral and their gf and wife can't do the job..they saw my ad ..and been trying to hook up with me..
ddikr69: well I'm sure they'll enjoy you
rocco701: ..maybe you're cool..and have a nice cock..so they like you..
ddikr69: cause I for one never saw your ad
ddikr69: are you saying these other guys would suck me off?
rocco701: i placed my ad discreetly at Yahho personals..in " females seeking males"...but later on went to say..that i am actually a bi male....they like that ..the guys...can't believe so many of them are curious about being sucked by a guy like me...so i had many responders..mostly straight curious guys..
ddikr69: cause in actuality
ddikr69: sexuality is in the mind
ddikr69: its what you care to do or not to do
rocco701: iwould love to give you a great bj discreetly in my hotel ..if you like to try ...we can meet for a drink...andtake it from there...
ddikr69: doubtful
ddikr69: cause I'm supposed to be hearing from a couple about Saturday anyway
rocco701: no obligations..
ddikr69: oh I know that
ddikr69: but like I said before
ddikr69: I prefer couples
ddikr69: straight couples
rocco701: cool..i am also meeting a couple...guy is bicurious...gf wants to watch her hubby being serviced by me..
ddikr69: Let me ask you this though....you ever hear of kewlgirl36?
rocco701: nope..why?
ddikr69: jsut wondering
rocco701: why?..whois she?.
ddikr69: no one...
rocco701: k..
rocco701: still there?
ddikr69: yep
rocco701: so tell me some hot encounters you have..
ddikr69: well that one couple that has a hubby that sucks guys off for the wife
ddikr69: they were real cool
ddikr69: wife gave great head
ddikr69: really responsive to my oral too
rocco701: did he suck you too?
ddikr69: no
ddikr69: she flipped me out when she licked my ass...that was cool...she was really into that
ddikr69: they were really vocal too...
ddikr69: him asking her if she liked my dick
ddikr69: I got into it
ddikr69: so I did the same
rocco701: hmm.hot...do they look good?.
ddikr69: asking her while I'm eating her if she liked it
ddikr69: yeah there were good looking
ddikr69: she had a pierced nipple too
rocco701: cool..
ddikr69: it was cut shorter than I would have liked
ddikr69: cause they had a flight to catch in the morning
ddikr69: wanted to go a 2nd or 3rd round
rocco701: met one couple last March...he fucked her GF doggie..while i was underneath licking her clit...
ddikr69: you mean licking hi,m
ddikr69: m
ddikr69: I've thought about that
ddikr69: but its too close to the guy
ddikr69: and there are other ways to get the woman off
rocco701: he aslo wanted me to suck him..so he would put his cock in my mouth...the putit back her pussy..fuck her..then i'd lick his balls whilehe's pumpin....they loved it.
ddikr69: see thats why I wouldn't do it
ddikr69: worried that guy might "slip"
rocco701: LOL..
ddikr69: I wouldn't find it funny
rocco701: need to be openminded dude..
ddikr69: cause that would crass the established line
ddikr69: you know
ddikr69: I see openminded thrown around a lot
ddikr69: and what people really mean to say is
rocco701: most guys who swing are..
ddikr69: actually they're not
ddikr69: and openminded in the swing community has become "try it/do it cause everyone in swinging is
ddikr69: when everyone has a preference
ddikr69: and truly openminded people respect that preference
rocco701: they don't have to be gay...they're the ones who are very comfortable with their sexuality..regardless who gives them a bj..as long as it's GOOD..
ddikr69: and don't force it on people
rocco701: i know...
ddikr69: comfortable with sexuality is one thing
ddikr69: knowing who you want to be with sexually is another
ddikr69: I am comfortable being straight
rocco701: i hear yah..
ddikr69: I am comfortable with others being gay or bi
rocco701: cool..
ddikr69: but I am not comfortable with people forcing the idea that I am bi on me because I engage in an activity were ther are bi people involved
ddikr69: and it seems the thing to do
rocco701: am not saying that...i think you migh be bi ..but just refusing the idea because you don't want to be labeled as such..and become gay...but i think you should know yourself...but i agree..to each his own....you likebeing straight..so be it....thiught you might need to experience it at least once..and fo all....then at least you have an experience..just like all other straight guys..
rocco701: com'on man...chill out...like to have fun right?...
ddikr69: I would not be comfortable with it
ddikr69: and regardless of who found out
ddikr69: I would still know
ddikr69: and if I didn't like it
ddikr69: that would follow me for the rest of my life
ddikr69: and having fun and doing anything under sun are two totally different things
rocco701: i apologize for being insistent....you sound like a fun guy to me...just wished you be openminded to tit..and try it at least once..
ddikr69: thats just it
ddikr69: I am fun
ddikr69: and I am openminded
ddikr69: but just cause I'm openminded for others to do what they feel
ddikr69: does not mean I don't know what I want to do for MY fun
rocco701: and see for yourself...if it feels good..
ddikr69: I'm sure it would feel good
rocco701: oh..com'on..
ddikr69: but the fact that I don't want to be with a man sexually is the point
ddikr69: and you are proving my point about swinging right now
ddikr69: you have it in your head that cause I swing
ddikr69: I am open-minded
rocco701: i'd give you the best bj ever...deepthroatyou..twil my tongue around it...take it all in my mouth ..suck you lovingly..
ddikr69: which to you mean I'll do anything sexually
ddikr69: which is completely and utterly not the case
rocco701: deep and slow..and when you are about to cum..i suck you better and faster...then lock my lips around the base of your cock..taking it all...and would swalllow your whole load..you'd be moaning in pleausre..
ddikr69: I've had women do that
rocco701: am better than them..
ddikr69: I had a woman ready to do that tonight
ddikr69: but something came up
rocco701:
ddikr69: why are you better?
ddikr69: is it cause you have a dick
ddikr69: cause that reason is tired and old
rocco701: see..we should hook up...or maybe watch me do it this coming fri..with someone..and see how i do...then i'd do you if you'd like to try..won't force it on you..
rocco701: i let you stay in the closet...sound like a good idea to you?..
ddikr69: yeah
ddikr69: let me stay in my closet
ddikr69: but you know who migh tlike it
rocco701: then maybe next time ..i'd bring my girl too...we'd both suck you..her around your cock...while i lick your balls..you'd love it..she has a tight pussy...hto girl...she need some hot sex once in a while..
ddikr69: bohica2g3
rocco701: who is she?.
ddikr69: I wouldn't mind meeting the two of you
ddikr69: that is a he
ddikr69: but if we met you would have to respect my boundries
rocco701: is he gay?..
ddikr69: no...curious
ddikr69: wife is not doing it for him
rocco701: am a respectful guy ouside.were sophisticated.....a lil kinky when it comes to this..why not..
ddikr69: cool
ddikr69: then I'll keep you on my messenger
ddikr69: so long as my boundries are respected
rocco701: tell me his stats..we prefer goodlooking people..
rocco701: we are quite goodlooking..
ddikr69: I don't know his
rocco701: k..
rocco701: all people around me are gorgeous looking...so tell me what girl you like i might be able to hook you up...
ddikr69: I haven't seen any of "your" girls
ddikr69: for all I know "your" girls are hideous - inside and out
rocco701: i know of a girl who likes to be double dicked...gorgeous wife..i did not believe first..but she is openminded..
rocco701: LOL..
ddikr69: explain this
ddikr69: why is openmindes equated to being bi?
rocco701: we'll meet sometime...so you know i am not bullshitting..
ddikr69: well honestly I thnk you are
rocco701: i think i like to enjoy both..
ddikr69: cause every couple I've has had a full profile
ddikr69: ok
ddikr69: so if you enjoy it
ddikr69: what makes you think everyone else does?
rocco701: thought you might be bi curious..sorry i misspoke...
ddikr69: for all you know that fact that a guy is hitting on me for sexual encounters makes me want to beat your ass for even insinuating that I am gay or bi
rocco701: LOL..
ddikr69: I have no clue what gave you that idea
rocco701: i think i hit a nreve there..i apologize..LOL..
ddikr69: you hit one a long time ago
rocco701: see?..you should be just laugin at my insinuations...
ddikr69: I was intially
ddikr69: but then when I said no
ddikr69: you kept pressing
rocco701: what i am saying is that i think you need to meet more couple..more people...and be openminded...and gradually i think you can be openminded in this kind of fun..
ddikr69: that crossed the line
ddikr69: if that wasn't elitist I don't know what is
rocco701: sorry man..but i think i like you..in the way you are being cocky...
ddikr69: you know bi and openminded for you are synonymous
ddikr69: you haven't even seen me
ddikr69: Look
ddikr69: just the way you have been so pushy with me is a turn off from even meeting you with your gf/wife
rocco701: i like you being argumentative about it...maybe we can hook up...maybe we get to like each other....maybe after all...we can hang out and see what happens..how about that?.
ddikr69: and the fact you keep pushing this open-minded/bi stance that everyone in the swinging community is offensive
ddikr69: How about no
ddikr69: and remove me from your Friends list cause I'm doing the same