Exchanging panties

[Starting late 74]

Hello everyone. We're slowly taking our time getting into the lifestlye, with a few experiences so far that have all been quite pleasurable. We've been concentrating on finding a couple who we can be friends with, and have fun with in and out of the bedroom. We recently have found a couple who we absolutely adore. The men have much in common, and he is handsome as can be! And I have really clicked with her, as she has a very similar sense of style. We've been in the bedroom twice with them. One time was an initial, get to know each other foreplay kind of night, the other was full on fun!

Yesterday the woman of the couple asked for something and I'm unsure how I feel about it. She wants to exchange underwear, so that when we're out to dinner, either with them or not, I'd be wearing hers, and she'd be wearing mine. She said it makes her feel "more intimate" with me. I'm not one to judge, anyone or anything, Lord knows I have interests that many people would find "weird," but I just don't understand this one. I assume she meant clean underwear : ) but even so, why would someone be interested in doing that, and should that set off alarm bells?

[bbarnsworth 2,536]

(take with a grain of salt; guy speaking here)

 

I don't think it should set of alarm bells. Everybody has a kink here or there. None of us are 'normal' (whatever the hell that means). If they're clean, I don't see the harm.

[NC_Seniors 492]

2 hours ago, bbarnsworth said:

If they're clean, I don't see the harm.

And if you’re not sure they’re clean … wash ‘em!   ;-D

[couplers 4,140]

It would be a problem for me.  I rarely wear underwear. 

[let's do it again 379]

I am not surprised by the request, I guess what does surprise me is that she wants to wear them, but to each their own. I have asked women for their worn panties and pussy hair.

[Starting late 74]

One of the most challenging things about this lifestyle is not only understanding that everyone has their kinks, and they are equally as acceptable as my own, but also leaving space for them

 

We are compatible in so many ways with this couple - but also incompatible in many others. We really want this to work because we feel as though we’ve been searching alot, and while we had fun our one night at a club, we have many things we want to explore with people we trust. I just want to make sure we’re not simply wanting it to work so badly, we ignore things that could be problems down the road

[Starting late 74]

1 hour ago, couplers said:

It would be a problem for me.  I rarely wear underwear. 

lol! Love it, and I love the attitude of it. My husband often requests I go without, especially when the weather gets warmer, but I enjoy getting dressed up. A nice tight fitting dress, not too revealing but enough, and something sexy underneath. First off, my boobs are too big to go without a bra, but I have a wonderful collection of lingerie, and I love to tease, letting people see what’s going on without showing too much. I’m very much of a lace girl. I have my “sunday morning” comfies, but every other day of the week I’m wearing something sexy.

[Starting late 74]

1 hour ago, let's do it again said:

I am not surprised by the request, I guess what does surprise me is that she wants to wear them, but to each their own. I have asked women for their worn panties and pussy hair.

What has been their reaction?

[let's do it again 379]

2 hours ago, Starting late said:

What has been their reaction?

As far as the panties, they gave them up, but a couple of women wanted me to take them to Victoria's Secret to replace them. As far as the pussy hair, if they had hair they would let me shave them especially if we were going to a Jamaican nude beach. I retired from a factory of 3,000 employees and it was well known that I kept a baggy of pussy hair in my lunchbox. 

[bbarnsworth 2,536]

2 hours ago, Starting late said:

We are compatible in so many ways with this couple - but also incompatible in many others. We really want this to work because we feel as though we’ve been searching alot, and while we had fun our one night at a club, we have many things we want to explore with people we trust. I just want to make sure we’re not simply wanting it to work so badly, we ignore things that could be problems down the road

 

Trying too hard to make it work is certainly a concern. Consider though; this isn't a romantic relationship per se, even though you might play with them for years. I mean, you might fall in love with them (you and your husband both). But, even with that it's not a standard relationship. You don't have to make everything work well. You don't have to agree on finances, who does what chores, who's doing the errand that needs to be done tonight, etc. One of the pleasures of this lifestyle is that you only have to figure out how to click sexually (if you play with them once or many times) and as friends (if you play with them many times). It's less complex :) Enjoy it for what it is, and don't stress too much about whether it's "perfect"; you'll never find that. It's a bit like an age old definition of a relationship; what their quirks are don't annoy you and vice versa. Everyone has quirks. Except in this case, the set of possible things that could be quirks that might annoy you are less because there are fewer things you have to worry about.

[couplers 4,140]

21 hours ago, let's do it again said:

I have asked women for their ... pussy hair.

That's an interesting request.  Is the response from women positive?  Do they let you harvest it yourself?  What do you do with it? 

[couplers 4,140]

20 hours ago, Starting late said:

My husband often requests I go without, especially when the weather gets warmer,

Red and David like the easy access for a quickie of just flipping up the back of my dress or pulling up my skirt.

 

I prefer not having my labia and clit bound up by panties or pantyhose, and like the feeling of air moving. 

 

20 hours ago, Starting late said:

my boobs are too big to go without a bra,

Don't complain, my boobs are too small to need a bra.  More easy access though for the guys, I guess.  I do wear very plain bras to work and other conservative situations. 

[let's do it again 379]

1 hour ago, couplers said:

That's an interesting request.  Is the response from women positive?  Do they let you harvest it yourself?  What do you do with it? 

Well the women that have a bush let me shave them belly button to butthole, I have learned to use Neosporin when shaving them. I have also got pussy hair from my female coworkers when they had groomed themselves and from male coworkers when they shaved their wives. The idea of the collecting pussyhair came from an old Ron Jeremy movie where Ron would shave women and make pussyhair soup.

[Starting late 74]

A small update. Thanks to the prevailing opinion that it's not a big deal, I went with it. We exchanged panties (and bras too, which I thought was a little odd since she is smaller than me) But I wore the panties out to a benefit dinner in San Francisco on Tuesday night. I'll be honest - I really, really thought it was weird, and didn't feel very comfortable with the idea. But....the night ended with me standing in front of our hotel room window, curtains open, masturbating with her panties on. Blame it on the vodka sodas, the giving spirit of the fundraiser, or whatever you like, I ended up enjoying it, and plan on returning them...unwashed.  

Thanks all for allowing me to share. When I think about my life one year ago compared to now, wow, what a crazy transition!

[let's do it again 379]

8 hours ago, Starting late said:

A small update. Thanks to the prevailing opinion that it's not a big deal, I went with it. We exchanged panties (and bras too, which I thought was a little odd since she is smaller than me) But I wore the panties out to a benefit dinner in San Francisco on Tuesday night. I'll be honest - I really, really thought it was weird, and didn't feel very comfortable with the idea. But....the night ended with me standing in front of our hotel room window, curtains open, masturbating with her panties on. Blame it on the vodka sodas, the giving spirit of the fundraiser, or whatever you like, I ended up enjoying it, and plan on returning them...unwashed.  

Thanks all for allowing me to share. When I think about my life one year ago compared to now, wow, what a crazy transition!

So, now that you worn the bra and panties, what are your feelings about doing it. Would you do it again? Did you get any special feelings from it ? As far as the bra, size would have been a concern for me. Do you ever wonder what those panties went thru after you returned them?

[Starting late 74]

This is probably a longer answer than you were expecting, but... I still feel a little odd about it, I don’t know why, but my panties are personal to me (I didn’t even try the bra. I’m a DD and she’s a C), and giving them to someone else is an intimacy that I’m not entirely comfortable with. Of course that sounds odd for someone in the lifestyle - I mean I’ve gone down on this woman and she on me, what’s more intimate than that? So I'm trying to think in terms of "it's no big deal." I think some of my enjoyment that night came from the arousal that my husband got from it, and knowing that she was also aroused by it, and not even there. Another big part of why I enjoyed it was the exhibitionism aspect. Since I was young I’ve had body issues. I’ve got large labia and a very large clitoris, and past partners have made me feel ashamed of it.  I can’t tell you how many times I had to say, “it’s not a penis, so don’t treat it like one!” My husband was the first person to not only find it very sexy, but also normal. And since meeting him, I’ve grown more and more comfortable with my body and in my own skin - to the point where I really get off sharing it (in small ways, “controlled flashing” I call it). So the short answer is sure, I’d do it again if she asked me to. The long answer, as with most things, is a little more complicated.

btw, I have not returned them yet. This just happened this week, and I'm still deciding whether I'll wash them. Not sure what her kink is there, perhaps I'll ask. They did get pretty soaked ; ) And in case you're wondering, I am very much a fan of cum, but dried cum in used panties? Not my thing. I hope she washes mine!

[let's do it again 379]

8 hours ago, Starting late said:

This is probably a longer answer than you were expecting, but... I still feel a little odd about it, I don’t know why, but my panties are personal to me (I didn’t even try the bra. I’m a DD and she’s a C), and giving them to someone else is an intimacy that I’m not entirely comfortable with. Of course that sounds odd for someone in the lifestyle - I mean I’ve gone down on this woman and she on me, what’s more intimate than that? So I'm trying to think in terms of "it's no big deal." I think some of my enjoyment that night came from the arousal that my husband got from it, and knowing that she was also aroused by it, and not even there. Another big part of why I enjoyed it was the exhibitionism aspect. Since I was young I’ve had body issues. I’ve got large labia and a very large clitoris, and past partners have made me feel ashamed of it.  I can’t tell you how many times I had to say, “it’s not a penis, so don’t treat it like one!” My husband was the first person to not only find it very sexy, but also normal. And since meeting him, I’ve grown more and more comfortable with my body and in my own skin - to the point where I really get off sharing it (in small ways, “controlled flashing” I call it). So the short answer is sure, I’d do it again if she asked me to. The long answer, as with most things, is a little more complicated.

btw, I have not returned them yet. This just happened this week, and I'm still deciding whether I'll wash them. Not sure what her kink is there, perhaps I'll ask. They did get pretty soaked ; ) And in case you're wondering, I am very much a fan of cum, but dried cum in used panties? Not my thing. I hope she washes mine!

I thought that was the reason she wanted to swap panties was to get them back used, but the bra is what confused me. I can understand the turn on from the used panties and how each one of you got a different kind of thrill out of it. As far as your large labia and clitoris,  I too get turned on by both, much better than a woman who has a small clitoris. 

[Starting late 74]

I honestly don't know the reason, she said she wanted to feel more intimate with me when we're not together - whatever that means.

 

And you'd be surprised at how many men say they are into big clits, but then when they get there it's like I'm from another planet!

[let's do it again 379]

12 minutes ago, Starting late said:

I honestly don't know the reason, she said she wanted to feel more intimate with me when we're not together - whatever that means.

 

And you'd be surprised at how many men say they are into big clits, but then when they get there it's like I'm from another planet!

Yes and those are the same guys that brag about how they eat pussy for an hour or into ass play and then balk when confronted with it. I know, I worked with a bunch of guys like this.

[couplers 4,140]

19 hours ago, Starting late said:

I’ve got large labia and a very large clitoris,

That makes two of us 

 

19 hours ago, Starting late said:

Since I was young I’ve had body issues.

Me as well.  No tits or ass, just some muscle and a prominent pussy.  My older sister really tormented me. 

 

10 hours ago, let's do it again said:

My husband was the first person to not only find it very sexy, but also normal

All my sex partners, male and female, have enjoyed and complimented my body.  Becoming sexually active took away my body issues. 

 

10 hours ago, let's do it again said:

I can’t tell you how many times I had to say, “it’s not a penis, so don’t treat it like one!”

Please explain.  I've never had that issue, or perhaps didn't recognize it.  My partners like to suck my clit, which I don't mind.

[Starting late 74]

8 hours ago, couplers said:

 

Please explain.  I've never had that issue, or perhaps didn't recognize it.  My partners like to suck my clit, which I don't mind.

I love to have my clit sucked! But I feel, at least with me, that it's very different than sucking cock. Creating the suction around my clit is what really brings me to climax, and it just felt that most times guys would suck me like they liked to get head, and I had several guys take their fingers and try to jerk me off. It all feels good for a bit, but it also feels like they'd just seem some porn movie and were doing it like they saw in that, or would treat my clit like a weird plaything. Until I met my husband, no one really asked what I liked, or how I liked it and no matter how much I tried to direct them, it would always end up the same. 

 

My only orgasms were either weak, or I had to take over and do it, or just from masturbation. To this day, I'm a habitual, 2-3 x/day masturbator (some days), only bc it's been a habit for so. long.

 

Re: Body issues. Looking back on it, it was stupid. I have a great body, and despite my large clit, it is most certainly not masculine. I have big boobs, a plump but not fat butt, and I'm in shape and thin. Somehow that didn't translate into "hot" in my mind until my husband really reinforced it. Now I feel great about my body! And I'm learning, slowly, to express myself sexually, rather than not talking about it

[Starting late 74]

9 hours ago, couplers said:

That makes two of us 

 

How big? Mine is thumb sized when stimulated. I still put in extra fabric in my swimsuits.

[couplers 4,140]

15 hours ago, Starting late said:

Creating the suction around my clit is what really brings me to climax,

For me it's a combination of sucking and tongue action, stroking and flicking.

 

15 hours ago, Starting late said:

I'm a habitual, 2-3 x/day masturbator (some days), only bc it's been a habit for so. long.

Nice, whatever gets you there.  How many times with another person?  I'm pretty regular twice a day - morning quickie with one of the guys and MF or FF or FFM at bedtime. 

 

15 hours ago, Starting late said:

I have big boobs, a plump but not fat butt, and I'm in shape and thin.

Perfect.  I got the "in shape and thin" part but no boobs or butt.  I also have always looked much younger than I am, which is good now, but used to attract pervs.

 

15 hours ago, Starting late said:

I'm learning, slowly, to express myself sexually

Perfect, and it seems that you also have a wonderful husband to help you along. 

 

 

Edited March 30 by couplers

[couplers 4,140]

15 hours ago, Starting late said:

How big? Mine is thumb sized when stimulated.

My clit is maybe longer and thinner than yours, like my index finger from the tip to the second knuckle.  It doesn't grow when stimulated, but does get a lot firmer; ok, I'll say it, I get hard.  Clair and Lora like it when we scissor.

 

As for any masculine traits, after years of being picked on by my sister for my small outer labia, protruding inner labia and clit ("That's a dick, Petra"), I had myself medically checked out.  Everything was normal, average even, despite otherwise looking like an eleven year-old at twenty.  (The nurse was still impressed with my cunt.)

 

After my first kid, I never worried about my femininity again, even though I'm now 50/50 bi.

 

 

Edited March 30 by couplers

[let's do it again 379]

1 hour ago, couplers said:

My clit is maybe longer and thinner than yours, like my index finger from the tip to the second knuckle.  It doesn't grow when stimulated, but does get a lot firmer; ok, I'll say it, I get hard.  Clair and Lora like it when we scissor.

 

As for any masculine traits, after years of being picked on by my sister for my small outer labia, protruding inner labia and clit ("That's a dick, Petra"), I had myself medically checked out.  Everything was normal, average even, despite otherwise looking like an eleven year-old at twenty.  (The nurse was still impressed with my cunt.)

 

After my first kid, I never worried about my femininity again, even though I'm now 50/50 bi.

 

 

Have you women with large clitoris, ever took a viagra to watch it swell because of the extra blood flow ?

[TnA83 273]

1 hour ago, let's do it again said:

Have you women with large clitoris, ever took a viagra to watch it swell because of the extra blood flow ?

My wife has a nice sized clit, not as large as her finger, but I'd love to see it engorged on a boner pill! (I use Cialis, lasts two days!)

[couplers 4,140]

21 hours ago, let's do it again said:

Have you women with large clitoris, ever took a viagra to watch it swell because of the extra blood flow ?

No, I haven't.  Our guys don't need it yet, so there's none around. 

 

On 3/29/2024 at 3:01 PM, Starting late said:

My only orgasms were either weak, or I had to take over and do it, or just from masturbation.

My Os have always been good and relatively easy, either by oral clitoral stimulation or regular p-in-v sex.  I think the internal part of my clit organ is oversized as well. 

[Starting late 74]

21 hours ago, TnA83 said:

My wife has a nice sized clit, not as large as her finger, but I'd love to see it engorged on a boner pill! (I use Cialis, lasts two days!)

 

21 hours ago, TnA83 said:

 

 

23 hours ago, let's do it again said:

Have you women with large clitoris, ever took a viagra to watch it swell because of the extra blood flow ?

In my younger days I had several different pussy pumps, and one specifically for my clit that I had "custom made". At that time I really enjoyed the sensitivity of my swollen lips and clit and, provided I really doused my pussy in lube, it made masturbatory orgasms quick and super intense. I gave those up after a while because when my clit was swollen like that, it most certainly resembles a penis. (See body issues) I only recently learned of my ability to squirt, which provides the same intense orgasm.

[Starting late 74]

On 3/30/2024 at 5:13 AM, couplers said:

For me it's a combination of sucking and tongue action, stroking and flicking.

 

Nice, whatever gets you there.  How many times with another person?  I'm pretty regular twice a day - morning quickie with one of the guys and MF or FF or FFM at bedtime. 

 

Perfect.  I got the "in shape and thin" part but no boobs or butt.  I also have always looked much younger than I am, which is good now, but used to attract pervs.

 

Perfect, and it seems that you also have a wonderful husband to help you along. 

 

 

The ironic thing with my body issues is that I find large labia very sexy. I only recently "discovered" my bi side, but I've always watched porn and have been turned on by women who look like me. I would love to experience giving oral to a woman with equally large labia and clit, after all I've been through, I think it would be amazing.

 

As far as masturbation goes, sure I like to do it for my husband, and also did it for a couple we were with, but if I'm going for pure pleasure, I need to be alone. Sometimes, when my husband travels for work, I get dressed up in my sexies, and make a night out of it :)  And that usually involves a mirror!

[Starting late 74]

On 3/30/2024 at 5:36 AM, couplers said:

My clit is maybe longer and thinner than yours, like my index finger from the tip to the second knuckle.  It doesn't grow when stimulated, but does get a lot firmer; ok, I'll say it, I get hard.  Clair and Lora like it when we scissor.

 

As for any masculine traits, after years of being picked on by my sister for my small outer labia, protruding inner labia and clit ("That's a dick, Petra"), I had myself medically checked out.  Everything was normal, average even, despite otherwise looking like an eleven year-old at twenty.  (The nurse was still impressed with my cunt.)

 

After my first kid, I never worried about my femininity again, even though I'm now 50/50 bi.

 

 

Oh I definitely get hard when stimulated. And I like to think of my voice as "sultry" rather than masculine. Other than that, I'm all woman!

[Numex 2,175]

On 3/29/2024 at 3:07 PM, Starting late said:

Mine is thumb sized when stimulated.

 

On 3/30/2024 at 6:36 AM, couplers said:

My clit is maybe longer and thinner than yours, like my index finger from the tip to the second knuckle.

There's been a Penis Size poll recently.  Do we need a Clit Size poll for the women?

[TnA83 273]

4 hours ago, Numex said:

 

There's been a Penis Size poll recently.  Do we need a Clit Size poll for the women?

I'd love to see the results of that poll. How would one measure a clit?

[couplers 4,140]

8 hours ago, TnA83 said:

How would one measure a clit?

In most cases, a micrometer.