Not just for watching....

[udsarge 119]

So I will play a little game by myself whenever I watch a threesome/moresome porn video. I prefer the videos that present real people/real couples. Then, while watching the sex scene occur, I like to guess which pairings are the real couple, and who is the "extra" person in the video. I judge by how the participants kiss each other, how they look while giving a blowjob or going down on each other, little playful verbal banter caught on film, type or amount of dirty talk, volume or quality of vocalized pleasure during the scene...so I guess the question is: Am I the only one who does stuff like this, and what else do you do while watching porn (aside from the obvious activity)?

[christnthms 325]

I can't say that I've been as conscious in my evaluation. But I am aware of the things that you mention. 

 

I will say that if it's obvious to me that none of the participants have any actual connection to each other, and they're not genuinely into each other, it becomes far less interesting.  

[hunterdonNJcpl 1,087]

1 hour ago, christnthms said:

I will say that if it's obvious to me that none of the participants have any actual connection to each other, and they're not genuinely into each other, it becomes far less interesting.  

That's why professional porn never did it for either of us.  Real amateurs all the way!

[Goodbicouple 173]

2 hours ago, hunterdonNJcpl said:

That's why professional porn never did it for either of us.  Real amateurs all the way!

What if they are really good actors? Lol

[Baconheads 397]

My wife and I are getting into 70's and 80's porn.  Not because of the hairyness, that's not really a turn on.  We like it because there is typically a story of some sort, not just wham bam thank you ma'am.

[ROCKlandCpl 436]

53 minutes ago, Baconheads said:

My wife and I are getting into 70's and 80's porn.  Not because of the hairyness, that's not really a turn on.  We like it because there is typically a story of some sort, not just wham bam thank you ma'am.

I went full hairy during lockdown something I hadn’t done before. Itchy at first, I’ve been there before. We made it fun as it grew in and messy after some real fun. 

For porn we felt the opposite, we got bored with produced porn and enjoyed the real couples. 

[Baconheads 397]

12 minutes ago, ROCKlandCpl said:

I went full hairy during lockdown something I hadn’t done before. Itchy at first, I’ve been there before. We made it fun as it grew in and messy after some real fun. 

For porn we felt the opposite, we got bored with produced porn and enjoyed the real couples. 

We are newbies with porn, well not me...  My wife likes a story to go with the action.  When viewing solo I would much rather see real couples.  Real couples having real sex to really please each other and themselves. Maybe on a beach somewhere...

 

She also likes instructional videos.

[GoldCoCouple 4,015]

Vintage 80's porn were very often movies that featured sex...most of the best videos are from that time period. Just wish they weren't shot on tape leading to very low picture quality now.

 

We play a different game: when out in public, we look at other couples and debate if (1st) we would want to see them naked and (2nd) if we think that they would swing if they had the opportunity. Most couples are usually a no/no, but there are still enough out there where it's at least a yes/maybe.

 

[GoldCoCouple 4,015]

Speaking of vintage:

 

https://www.therialtoreport.com/

[christnthms 325]

1 hour ago, GoldCoCouple said:

We play a different game: when out in public, we look at other couples and debate if (1st) we would want to see them naked and (2nd) if we think that they would swing if they had the opportunity. 

I've had a different realization over the years. There are a great many people who I wouldn't necessarily want to see naked, just for the sake of seeing them naked. But if they're passionate and into each other, it's still hot to watch them have sex. 

 

Maybe it's because over the years, some of my most fun partners weren't exactly models. 

[PeterJ 826]

2 hours ago, GoldCoCouple said:

Speaking of vintage:

 

https://www.therialtoreport.com/

This is cool! I was unaware of this site’s existence. Thanks for sharing it, Gold. ?

[MidwestHoneys 336]

On 3/18/2021 at 1:14 PM, ROCKlandCpl said:

For porn we felt the opposite, we got bored with produced porn and enjoyed the real couples. 

I might be in a dorm room porn somewhere on the net. 

I had a friend who was media major and he had hidden cameras in his room. He was a real filmmaker guy. The girls never knew n he shared his masterpieces with the guys. I asked him to put a camera in my room for a date I was hoping to fuck. He even ran remotes and watched in real-time. She was smokin hot n I was just hoping not to shoot too soon. 

I have checked thousands of porns looking for my vid and never found it. 

[PeterJ 826]

29 minutes ago, MidwestHoneys said:

I might be in a dorm room porn somewhere on the net. 

I had a friend who was media major and he had hidden cameras in his room. He was a real filmmaker guy. The girls never knew n he shared his masterpieces with the guys. I asked him to put a camera in my room for a date I was hoping to fuck. He even ran remotes and watched in real-time. She was smokin hot n I was just hoping not to shoot too soon. 

I have checked thousands of porns looking for my vid and never found it. 

Wow! I infer from how you’ve written this that these women were not aware they were being videotaped. If they were, fine. I hope you and your buddy got written releases from them.  
 

If these women were not aware they were being filmed that’s seriously criminal behavior. Worthy of a substantial period of incarceration. 
 

(Last year I photographed a sex party for ASN. Everyone signed releases beforehand.)

[MidwestHoneys 336]

23 minutes ago, PeterJ said:

Wow! I infer from how you’ve written this that these women were not aware they were being videotaped

This was years and years ago. The one I fucked found out about the vid. Guys talk and one guy told his girl who was friends with the girl I was with. Think she was fine cause she came back. 

The other girls I have no clue about. Not my problem. 

[Numex 2,176]

On 3/17/2021 at 7:27 AM, udsarge said:

I prefer the videos that present real people/real couples. Then, while watching the sex scene occur, I like to guess which pairings are the real couple, and who is the "extra" person in the video.

Real porn is the only kind that I will occasionally watch.  In threesomes, I look for wedding rings on the couple and the third without.

 

On 3/18/2021 at 10:17 AM, Baconheads said:

Not because of the hairyness, that's not really a turn on.

For me, I like hair on a lady, and my wife too; not full bush, but not shaved either.

[TricianMike 732]

4 hours ago, PeterJ said:

these women were not aware they were being videotaped

I swear I always wondered about those poor young girls being secretly recorded. I could have been anyone of those girls when I was in school. How many jerks did I sleep with who only wanted to get laid. I look at some of these girls and they have love on their face. I know many are fakes, just too many angles being recorded and now I’m reading about a guy who set up a multi camera shoot. Then there is always that smirk on the guys face knowing he is recording this. My best thoughts are with the girl and always hope she isn’t faking. You know what you never see? The girl setting up a guy to be recorded. 

[AndrewandAnn 359]

On 3/19/2021 at 3:34 PM, PeterJ said:

Wow! I infer from how you’ve written this that these women were not aware they were being videotaped. If they were, fine. I hope you and your buddy got written releases from them.  
 

If these women were not aware they were being filmed that’s seriously criminal behavior. Worthy of a substantial period of incarceration. 
 

(Last year I photographed a sex party for ASN. Everyone signed releases beforehand.)

Two quick points:

 

Concerning the issue of illegality, recording someone without their written consent is not criminal behavior in most, and certainly not all, situations. The laws are, at best, quite murky and confusing around this point. It very much depends upon the jurisdiction and circumstances in which the recording occurs. Some states, and even cities, have stronger legal protections and others do not. Any potential criminal behavior often revolves around what happens with the recording. Is it made public? Is it disseminated on the Internet? 

 

And how do you "enforce" the law? More often than not, the remedy is a civil matter, not a criminal matter.

 

Turning to the practical reality... we are recorded without our written consent all the time--at the airport, at the pharmacy, at the grocer, at the department store, at the hospital, at the office building, at every major intersection or highway exchange, etc. There are more than three billion smart phones in the world, all of which have the ability to record high-quality video, audio, and still photographs. Not to mention the billions of other private cameras, private security videos, drones, etc. The notion that any personal privacy still exists in this day and age is nothing more than an illusion.  If you take off your clothes in any place outside your own home, plan on the probability (not just possibility) that it is being recorded by someone, somehow.

 

Bear in mind, I am just the messenger and do NOT endorse this kind of behavior. But, sadly, it is reality.

 

 

[PSULioness 754]

2 hours ago, AndrewandAnn said:

And how do you "enforce" the law? More often than not, the remedy is a civil matter, not a criminal matter.

Uh No!  Revenge Porn is a felony in many states. I know someone who pressed charges against a jerk who posted something embarrassing and I know it is costing a fortune trying to stay out of prison. 

Even a nude picture taken with consent cannot be published or even sent to another person without consent. 

[AndrewandAnn 359]

7 minutes ago, PSULioness said:

Uh No!  Revenge Porn is a felony in many states. I know someone who pressed charges against a jerk who posted something embarrassing and I know it is costing a fortune trying to stay out of prison. 

Even a nude picture taken with consent cannot be published or even sent to another person without consent. 

Firstly, twenty states have no laws against publishing adult content without consent. The remaining thirty states have a variety of laws that vary greatly from state-to-state. In other words, there is no legal nationwide standard. Some states even require proof of the intent to harm, a difficult legal hurdle to prove in a criminal court, to say the least.

 

Secondly, you are confusing so-called "revenge porn" with simple adult content. They are not the same things. "Revenge porn" is intended to harass and cause harm to the individual(s) in question, hence the name. Most amateur adult content does not fit this description.

 

Lastly, the overwhelming majority of these complaints do not result in successful criminal prosecutions. They are far, far more often settled as civil matters, if they are resolved at all. In 2009, when rapper "Fitty Cent" was accused of posting "revenge porn", he was not successfully prosecuted. However, he was successfully sued in court to the tune of a $5M judgement against him (ultimately raised to $7MM.) Unfortunately, the victim only received about "fitty cents" (sorry, couldn't resist! lol...) on the dollar when Mr. Cent's legal representatives helped him restructure his debts in a personal bankruptcy maneuver in 2015.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[PeterJ 826]

10 hours ago, AndrewandAnn said:

Firstly, twenty states have no laws against publishing adult content without consent. The remaining thirty states have a variety of laws that vary greatly from state-to-state. In other words, there is no legal nationwide standard. Some states even require proof of the intent to harm, a difficult legal hurdle to prove in a criminal court, to say the least.

 

Secondly, you are confusing so-called "revenge porn" with simple adult content. They are not the same things. "Revenge porn" is intended to harass and cause harm to the individual(s) in question, hence the name. Most amateur adult content does not fit this description.

 

Lastly, the overwhelming majority of these complaints do not result in successful criminal prosecutions. They are far, far more often settled as civil matters, if they are resolved at all. In 2009, when rapper "Fitty Cent" was accused of posting "revenge porn", he was not successfully prosecuted. However, he was successfully sued in court to the tune of a $5M judgement against him (ultimately raised to $7MM.) Unfortunately, the victim only received about "fitty cents" (sorry, couldn't resist! lol...) on the dollar when Mr. Cent's legal representatives helped him restructure his debts in a personal bankruptcy maneuver in 2015.

 

 

 

 

 

 

A&A, it’s true that in many states — 40% of them as you point out — there is no specific criminal statute regarding the recording of sexual acts without the permission of all involved. But in 60% of states those laws do exist. And people are doing hard time after being convicted of violating them. I did a very quick Google search on the subject and here are the first four listed. Three are convictions for up to 23 years. The fourth is a defense attorney offering his services to those charged with such crimes.

 

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/crime/2018/07/06/glen-rock-man-sentenced-state-prison-secretly-recording-naked-partially-nude-people-york-county/747044002/

 

https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/crime/2018/09/17/fawn-grove-man-gets-prison-time-secretly-filming-sex-women-girls/1335583002/

 

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/12/03/florida-man-3-year-prison-sentence-secretly-recorded-sex-sessions-sold-porn-site/

 

https://www.columbuscriminaldefenseattorney.com/blog/in-ohio-is-it-a-crime-to-secretly-videotape-a-sex-with-someone-else/

 

And as you also noted, there’s the matter of civil litigation. I’m not sure how many states permit invasion of privacy suits, but I suspect most if not all. (You seem well informed on these matters and I’d be pleased to learn if you have clarifying information on that.)

 

But I think there’s a broader issue that would be germane to most members of this board. With very few exceptions people here value their privacy. There is an expectation in the lifestyle, so widespread it almost goes without saying, that we will honor one another’s privacy. Why is the privacy of a college student having sex with a date of less importance than that of a couple who engage in partner exchanges or group activity? To my mind, surreptitiously recording others in sexual situations without their permission, is skeevy behavior. Whether it manages to skirt criminality or not, I believe many regular contributors to this board, would find this behavior reprehensible.

 

 

[AndrewandAnn 359]

8 hours ago, PeterJ said:

A&A, it’s true that in many states — 40% of them as you point out — there is no specific criminal statute regarding the recording of sexual acts without the permission of all involved. But in 60% of states those laws do exist. And people are doing hard time after being convicted of violating them. I did a very quick Google search on the subject and here are the first four listed. Three are convictions for up to 23 years. The fourth is a defense attorney offering his services to those charged with such crimes.

 

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/crime/2018/07/06/glen-rock-man-sentenced-state-prison-secretly-recording-naked-partially-nude-people-york-county/747044002/

 

https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/crime/2018/09/17/fawn-grove-man-gets-prison-time-secretly-filming-sex-women-girls/1335583002/

 

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/12/03/florida-man-3-year-prison-sentence-secretly-recorded-sex-sessions-sold-porn-site/

 

https://www.columbuscriminaldefenseattorney.com/blog/in-ohio-is-it-a-crime-to-secretly-videotape-a-sex-with-someone-else/

 

And as you also noted, there’s the matter of civil litigation. I’m not sure how many states permit invasion of privacy suits, but I suspect most if not all. (You seem well informed on these matters and I’d be pleased to learn if you have clarifying information on that.)

 

But I think there’s a broader issue that would be germane to most members of this board. With very few exceptions people here value their privacy. There is an expectation in the lifestyle, so widespread it almost goes without saying, that we will honor one another’s privacy. Why is the privacy of a college student having sex with a date of less importance than that of a couple who engage in partner exchanges or group activity? To my mind, surreptitiously recording others in sexual situations without their permission, is skeevy behavior. Whether it manages to skirt criminality or not, I believe many regular contributors to this board, would find this behavior reprehensible.

 

 

Just a few follow-ups, because I do not want to hijack this thread:

 

I didn't say people were *never* prosecuted for "revenge porn". I said it is exceedingly rare. I've lost count of the number of prominent people who have had their "sex tapes" or "nudes" unintentionally (or intentionally?) released into the public domain. In the majority of these instances, no criminal prosecution or civil judgement was rendered. As I noted earlier, there are, of course, exceptions.

 

Frankly, porn is non longer taboo. In fact, it is ubiquitous and firmly part of the culture. In a 2020 Washington Post story, a study they referenced indicated nearly 80% of adult respondents said they trade explicit images of themselves with their partners. People recording themselves in various stages of undress, or having sex, is so commonplace today it does not even raise an eyebrow. And we are enthusiastic supporters! LOL!! Frankly, Ann and I have a collection of private videos of ourselves that dates back decades and continues right up to the present. They've all been digitized and downloaded to two encrypted external drives, the keys to which die with us. Our adult children no doubt suspect we are sexually permissive, but we don't want to give them any concrete proof! LOL... ;-)

 

Anyway, go to any major, or minor, adult content website and search "amateur porn" or "nude beach" or "spring break" or "party cove" etc. and you'll get thousands of videos uploaded by mostly anonymous users showing amateur people cavorting naked and having sex. It would be naïve to believe they all signed waivers. And, in most of these instances, a waiver is unnecessary, anyway. I won't bore you with the legal explanations, but suffice to say it has to do with implied consent and no expectation of privacy, combined with a state-by-state tapestry of murky, and often weak, privacy laws.

 

To your last point, I'll repeat what I wrote earlier: Bear in mind, I am just the messenger and do NOT endorse this kind of behavior. But, sadly, it is reality. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[couplers 4,143]

14 hours ago, PeterJ said:

in many states — 40% of them as you point out — there is no specific criminal statute regarding the recording of sexual acts without the permission of all involved. But in 60% of states those laws do exist. And people are doing hard time after being convicted of violating them.

A year or so ago I read a story of a man who admitted that he surreptitiously recorded his sexual encounters.  He claimed to do so because he feared that a woman may later say the activities were nonconsensual if they were in anyway disappointed with the outcome of the relationship (or lack thereof).  How would that turn out if he ever needed to reveal his proof in a state that has a statute against recording without permission?

[AlwaysLrning 21]

So trying to get back on topic, I agree amateur porn or virtual “porn” is great. If you’re looking for what we consider classic vintage porn with a story line check out Marilyn Chambers in “Behind the Green Door” or “Up n’ Coming” two of our favorites.

[herpob 523]

Cough cough, hair, there is a hair caught, cough cough (couldn't resist on an earlier post).

 

I understand your thoughts though about vintage.  

Edited April 3, 2021 by herpob

[Meggie91 1]

I recently got hooked on vintage porn too. Maybe it will sound strange, but I am excited by the fact that porn actors had that sex even before I was born. Such a feeling, as if watching mammoth sex. Sometimes, when I masturbate with a dildo, I imagine being fucked by a dick from the past. Such a machine (penis) of time. The only downside to vintage porn is that there is a limited number of it. Sometimes I have to watch the same one couple of times. Btw I liked the idea of guessing who is who. I will definitely try it today.

Edited April 18, 2021 by Meggie91

[PeterJ 826]

1 hour ago, Meggie91 said:

I recently got hooked on vintage porn too. Maybe it will sound strange, but I am excited by the fact that porn actors had that sex even before I was born. Such a feeling, as if watching mammoth sex. Sometimes, when I masturbate with a dildo, I imagine being fucked by a dick from the past. Such a machine (penis) of time. The only downside to vintage porn is that there is a limited number of it. Sometimes I have to watch the same one couple of times. Btw I liked the idea of guessing who is who. I will definitely try it today.

My wife and I are in our 70s, so we enjoyed porn from that era when it wasn’t vintage. ?☺️ We still ejoy a vigorous sex life, but erotica isn’t such a big part of it, in part because we don’t find current porn very pleasant. When she is in the mood, her go-to is the classic “Behind the Green Door”. 

 

Seeing contemporary photos of the stars from 50 years ago (those still living) can be a shock. Of course we’ve barely aged in the interim... ?

[tkntd 59]

We don’t quite do that, no. But we both find it much more arousing when those involved seems truly into giving and receiving pleasure, thatcher than just performing sex acts or doing positions.