midnightplayer 135 Posted April 4, 2016 I found this article on how long can a man last after penetration:nannadog: Looks like the time is all over the place. How long can you last? Dr Brendan Zietsch reveals how long sex normally lasts | Daily Mail Online Quote Share this post Link to post
GoldCoCouple 4,068 Posted April 4, 2016 It varies and depends on the situation. After the first time I can go...well usually until the woman wears out. But then, there's not that much need very often. Most of the time I try to last until she is content. Quote Share this post Link to post
cplnuswing 4,713 Posted April 5, 2016 When it's just us, we usually don't go a real long time. Mrs cplnuswing would rather it be more intense but over sooner than stopping and starting just to try to stretch it out longer, so our lovemaking style has kind of evolved around the preference, and you body kind of just gets trained. I've honestly never really clocked it, maybe 5-8 minutes of actual intercourse? That's not to say there aren't ever stolen moment quickies, or longer slower paced sessions, but for an average, that's probably a pretty good guess. With playmates, especially new ones, I often don't come at all, so I guess the answer is infinity What is going on there is kind of the opposite of what I just mentioned above. Since you haven't had years together developing that pattern that puts you both in your happy place, then I always want to error on the side of caution. I want to make her happy and satisfy her, so instead of guessing, I keep it simple...I go until she says stop 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
njbm 2,886 Posted April 5, 2016 Sometimes the excitement of a new lover has me explode early. Hate when that happens; tough to control! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
GuyInMD79 1,500 Posted April 5, 2016 Of course, this varies with a number of factors- tiredness level, how long it's been since my last orgasm, what kind of (and how much) foreplay we've done before intercourse, how excited I am with the woman, phase of the moon... Once we're on to actual intercourse, I'd say I generally last around 15 to 25 minutes maybe? According to what I've been told, that is longer than many guys. It's both a blessing and a curse, because though my women friends seem to be enjoying themselves, sometimes my sexual endurance goes longer than my physical endurance! Quote Share this post Link to post
SW_PA_Couple 4,026 Posted April 6, 2016 Sometimes the excitement of a new lover has me explode early. Hate when that happens; tough to control!Ten years ago, I suffered something similar. Now I'm happy when it happens at all. I no longer, in fact, consider ejaculation a necessary for having fun. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
JandKinBoise 858 Posted April 12, 2016 I started watching the clock during sex. I had read that 5-7 minutes was normal and I felt like we were going at it for at least 45 minutes. Turns out it's only 11-15 minutes. In a group, almost never. We were having drinks this weekend with a guy who had been a previous lover. our first meeting a couple years ago he was fully straight. Now he was wanting to explore some bisexual stuff. Sucking dick and eating a cream pie were the only things on his list. We banged him on the back lawn but as usual, I didn't come. Lotta pressure now lol. Anyway, I think I just wanted to brag that I played this weekend. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
freddymike 18 Posted April 12, 2016 .....getting it up in my adult video chat fantasy webcam sessions seems to be Ok with my new size A tits now for about the first 2 or 3 viewers who exit the room after cumming but then it gets slightly more difficult. I begin to think all sorts of things really and am glad when more and more people exit after cumming but my stamina if that is what you call it really does depend on the viewer figures and the exit ratios. You have to cum quite fast though before there is only one or two viewers left however. That is important. My slowly increasing breast size helps. So does my cock size. Quote Share this post Link to post
BuiltForSin 66 Posted April 12, 2016 I spent the weekend pulling weeds and planting flowers and also didn't come it might have been the frustration that the new mower wasn't working well and I found out only after finishing that the height adjustment settings didn't match. On the general question of how long a man can last: well technically forever with enough stopping and rest but this is such a variable for 99% of men, we can all remember both marathon and quick shooter sessions. Nobody seems to have a perfect formula for making it last a certain set time. As an experiment in my younger days I once tried putting that gel used to numb teeth on the inside of a condom. It seemed to work but who knows, it could have been one of those times I would have gone longer anyway... Quote Share this post Link to post
GoldCoCouple 4,068 Posted April 12, 2016 ...if only pulling weeds and orgasms were somehow connected! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
BuiltForSin 66 Posted April 12, 2016 ...if only pulling weeds and orgasms were somehow connected! My yard would sure look better... Quote Share this post Link to post
branden2388 24 Posted November 9 Mine averages around 10 to 15 minutes. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
TricianMike 783 Posted November 9 Very broad question with no real answer. I’ve had some in a minute, some took forever. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,435 Posted November 10 On 4/4/2016 at 7:21 AM, midnightplayer said: How long can you last? I'm a slow cummer, a lot of times deliberately because I like being there physically and state of mind. So 45 minutes to an hour, although I speed things up to match what a woman wants. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
ConfusedHubby 122 Posted November 11 Long... sometimes too long. If condoms are involved, sometimes I don't get there at all. Exceeding an hour on penetrative sex isn't unusual. While it's fun in a party setting and with multiple partners, I only have a few female friends who keep up with me there which is less fun. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,688 Posted November 12 As I like to do, let's turn this question around - women, how long do you want a guy to stay in you before ejaculating and moving on? Does it depend on whether you're planning on having another man follow up? How long does it take you to cum? Can you/do you have multiple orgasms? On the same dick, or does it need to be with another dick or oral? Quote Share this post Link to post
Half MT 234 Posted November 12 Just like size the duration by the men posting are extraordinary. I most likely have the least experience so I can only comment on the men I had sex with. I am guessing the men last under 10 minutes. Now I had to Google what science says, 5-7 minutes and that sounds right. Thinking about the 10 inch guys who go over a half hour I say I’m happy I haven’t met you. 1 hour ago, couplers said: How long does it take you to cum? Can you/do you have multiple orgasms? On the same dick, or does it need to be with another dick or oral? With foreplay I can cum from oral before penetration and again during sex, sometimes more than once. With toys I orgasm quickly depending on what I’m doing. I’ve only had multiple partners a few times. 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
TnA83 314 Posted November 12 I try to get off in the 15 minute range, if I go too much longer I go aerobic and my erection flaggs. I've heard that most girls don't want to be banged for hours, kinda ruins them for the whole week. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
AdamGunn2 408 Posted November 13 12 hours ago, Half MT said: Just like size the duration by the men posting are extraordinary. I most likely have the least experience so I can only comment on the men I had sex with. I am guessing the men last under 10 minutes. Now I had to Google what science says, 5-7 minutes and that sounds right. For inexperienced men, or those who are playing for mostly their own pleasure - not the woman's - this sounds right. BUT, as we got into the LifeStyle, and I wanted to extend the play for the woman's pleasure, I learned two techniques. The first is that while we were going at it, I could think about other things - in my case, it was playing a round of golf - and that allowed me to continue with intercourse with less pressure to cum. The second is when I was just about to come, I'd clamp down, cease all movement on my part and just let a little bit of sperm escape. This is also called edging. Then, I could literally go for hours without the need to come. (In fact, there were nights in orgies that edged myself with my first partner of the evening, and had a full orgasm.) Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,435 Posted November 14 On 11/11/2024 at 12:38 PM, ConfusedHubby said: If condoms are involved, sometimes I don't get there at all. One of my motivations for belonging to a closed group of married couples, we always go bareback, which makes it possible for me to cum. Even if I weren't such a slow cummer, both my wife and I find unimpeded ejaculations much more enjoyable. On 11/12/2024 at 8:24 PM, AdamGunn2 said: while we were going at it, I could think about other things - in my case, it was playing a round of golf Did people wonder why you were yelling "fore!"? In my case, I can't think of anything other than my dick is in a woman and another guy is in my wife. On 11/12/2024 at 8:24 PM, AdamGunn2 said: I could literally go for hours without the need to come. In my case, there's always the need to cum. Quote Share this post Link to post
AdamGunn2 408 Posted November 15 (edited) 9 hours ago, Numex said: Did people wonder why you were yelling "fore!"? In my case, I can't think of anything other than my dick is in a woman . . . After a little practice, I found it wasn't a problem. Think of it this way. Maybe you're talking to somebody on the phone, and at the same time you're cleaning the kitchen. If somebody knows you well, they might sense a little pause while you look for the sponge, but maybe not. The point is not to forget your cock is inside an attractive and willing woman and thrusting. You just need a little distraction to get yourself off the edge, and delay your orgasm. Nobody (including my wife) ever pointed out that I wasn't totally into what my primary purpose was - fucking her. Edited November 15 by AdamGunn2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
PSULioness 859 Posted November 15 Isn’t it a joke when men say they think about sports during sex? I thought guys just say that. When I’m with someone I think about sex and the person I’m with. I would be mad if I’m with a man doing my best to please him and then find out he was thinking about a football game. I know most men are once a done for a period of time but for me I want to orgasm as fast as I can 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
AdamGunn2 408 Posted November 15 2 hours ago, PSULioness said: Isn’t it a joke when men say they think about sports during sex? I thought guys just say that. When I’m with someone I think about sex and the person I’m with. I would be mad if I’m with a man doing my best to please him and then find out he was thinking about a football game. I know most men are once a done for a period of time but for me I want to orgasm as fast as I can Then you'd be pissed with me if we found ourselves in bed with each other. I probably would be so excited by your physical beauty and the thought of what you were allowing me to do with you would cause me to blow a gasket in so very little time. Trust me, that's happened to me. So, I would hope you'd take it as a compliment that I was trying to distract myself slightly so I could show you a much better time. But if that's going to set you off, well, I guess we wouldn't be that great of sexual partners. Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,688 Posted November 16 21 hours ago, PSULioness said: I want to orgasm as fast as I can Pretty much the same for me. If he does go a little while longer, I can have a second O. Unlike men, who require at least some recovery time and usually the thrill of moving on to a different woman. Quote Share this post Link to post
PeterJ 957 Posted November 16 1 hour ago, couplers said: Pretty much the same for me. If he does go a little while longer, I can have a second O. Unlike men, who require at least some recovery time and usually the thrill of moving on to a different woman. It’s relatively rare but there are some men who, at least in some circumstances, have essentially a zero refractory time. I’m in my 70s now and two orgasms in an evening, even in a highly stimulating environment, is a fairly heavy lift. But in my 20s and 30s with a sufficiently stimulating partner I could have a full orgasm and not lose my erection. For partners who either preferred cumming from fucking or could only reach orgasm in that fashion (the latter rare but I did have a couple of such regular partners over the years) the knowledge that my orgasm wouldn’t necessarily mean the end the session diminished their anxiety and helped them cum more easily. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,688 Posted November 16 (edited) 24 minutes ago, PeterJ said: It’s relatively rare but there are some men who,., have essentially a zero refractory time. .. in my 20s and 30s with a sufficiently stimulating partner I could have a full orgasm and not lose my erection. . Yes, but from my experience, those are few for a man and the time during which he can do it, teens to mid-twenties, short. It's not just me who can no longer excite a man to a second immediate erection, but it doesn't happen with Lora or Clair or Shannon. We women, however, can still go on. And even when he does get around to a second session, very little comes out. Getting older ourselves and reading posts of newbies here, I understand why couples get into the lifestyle later in life and it is said that swinging is a woman’s game. Edited November 16 by couplers 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
PSULioness 859 Posted November 17 On 11/15/2024 at 12:13 PM, AdamGunn2 said: Then you'd be pissed with me if we found ourselves in bed with each other. I probably would be so excited by your physical beauty and the thought of what you were allowing me to do with you would cause me to blow a gasket in so very little time. Trust me, that's happened to me. So, I would hope you'd take it as a compliment that I was trying to distract myself slightly so I could show you a much better time. But if that's going to set you off, well, I guess we wouldn't be that great of sexual partners. My physical beauty lol. I can’t say blowing your gasket too soon is a good thing, it’s also not a terrible thing. I want to please my partners, I feel that if they don’t blow their gasket I am doing something wrong. How many partners have I just had oral sex with where their pleasure was my pleasure. I will never know what a partner is thinking, if it’s something other than me I won’t take it as a negative, it’s a partner still thinking about my pleasure if they are trying to delay their own. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,688 Posted November 18 (edited) 21 hours ago, PSULioness said: I want to please my partners, I feel that if they don’t blow their gasket I am doing something wrong. For me it’s definitely that (I call myself an orgasm donor), but I really, really want that special precious stuff inside me that only a man can give. A living part of him, a little of which will continue to live inside me for a few days, and needs frequent replenishment. Edited November 18 by couplers 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
PSULioness 859 Posted November 18 1 hour ago, couplers said: For me it’s definitely that (I call myself an orgasm donor), but I really, really want that special precious stuff inside me that only a man can give. A living part of him, a little of which will continue to live inside me for a few days, and needs frequent replenishment. Donor and recipient for me, it doesn’t need to be a man. You always mention the living part, it makes me think. I usually pee after sex and take a shower within hours so the only way anything living is if I swallow but I wonder if my gastric acid kills off anything living. Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,688 Posted November 19 21 hours ago, PSULioness said: it doesn’t need to be a man. For me neither. 21 hours ago, PSULioness said: I usually pee after sex and take a shower within hours so the only way anything living is if I swallow but I wonder if my gastric acid kills off anything living. If peeing and showering got rid of all those swimmers, it could used as birth control. Even after thoroughly cleaning, there are probably hundreds that have made their way into my uterus and fallopian tubes. Yeah, the little guys get killed in the stomach, and I don’t like to think of their horror when a guy cums in my bum. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
njbm 2,886 Posted November 19 I have been ejaculating sooner than I like lately. Today I picked up a box of Trojan condoms called extended play or something like that. It has a lube inside that slightly numbs the penis. I will report back on its effectiveness. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Bob E 32 Posted November 20 They also have flavored cream in a tube, that numbs a little but is okay for oral. But don't women like to feel that warm, silky cum gush into their vagina, mouth or ass ? Quote Share this post Link to post
njbm 2,886 Posted November 20 7 hours ago, Bob E said: They also have flavored cream in a tube, that numbs a little but is okay for oral. But don't women like to feel that warm, silky cum gush into their vagina, mouth or ass ? They like it, but the unsheathed swinger’s penis may carry risks that some of us rather not be exposed to. Quote Share this post Link to post
NoAngels 346 Posted November 20 Unfortunately I’ve gone over a week without ejaculating then I just had to yank one out. 1 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,688 Posted November 21 21 hours ago, NoAngels said: I’ve gone over a week without ejaculating then I just had to yank one out. Yank it out? I would think at that point it would leaking out, blowing out, or backing up into your sack. Quote Share this post Link to post
lov2party 23 Posted November 21 59 minutes ago, couplers said: Yank it out? I would think at that point it would leaking out, blowing out, or backing up into your sack. If I go to long I get a sperm retention headache Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,688 Posted November 22 22 hours ago, lov2party said: If I go to long I get a sperm retention headache When I was lactating, something similar would happen if a feeding was delayed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Half MT 234 Posted November 22 On 11/19/2024 at 7:51 AM, couplers said: For me neither. If peeing and showering got rid of all those swimmers, it could used as birth control. Even after thoroughly cleaning, there are probably hundreds that have made their way into my uterus and fallopian tubes. Yeah, the little guys get killed in the stomach, and I don’t like to think of their horror when a guy cums in my bum. you are correct about the swimmers, they live 3-5 days in me, I checked Google. Now I don’t feel anything moving in me but I see you enjoy knowing there is. I wonder if my husbands fishies are playing well with our friend’s. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,688 Posted November 23 (edited) 15 hours ago, Half MT said: the swimmers, they live 3-5 days in me, To think, I've been harboring the little guys in me from two, sometimes three or four, men since I was twenty years old. It is both comforting and thrilling. 15 hours ago, Half MT said: I wonder if my husbands fishies are playing well with our friend’s. From what I've read they are in competition for the prize, your egg, jostling, fighting it out. But maybe David’s and Red's have been in me together so often that they get along, and gang up on others when they show up. I also get a little jealous thinking about how other women have the swimmers from David and Red in them. Not so much Lora and Clair, but Shannon. It was really a thrill when I was trying to get pregnant the first time and went pot luck with Red and David so I could be pregnant at the same time with Clair. After sex, I would lie there with a pillow under my hips letting as much of it go in as possible. I did imagine feeling them moving toward my eggs. Edited November 23 by couplers 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,688 Posted November 24 (edited) On 11/22/2024 at 1:30 PM, Half MT said: I don’t feel anything moving in me but I see you enjoy knowing there is. There is a confluence of reasons for my obsession. I started masturbating young, pre-puberty, hard, often, both vaginally and clitorally. As puberty hit, I thought about boys, especially while masturbating. Then it was all tied together in sex ed, which in Catholic school was called Family Health. No dicks, no pussies (certainly no clits), but uteri, fallopian tubes, ovaries, eggs; testicles, vas deferens, sperm. So for me, the foundation of sex is biological. Microscopic biological. And a man’s testicles. I had some very intense masturbation sessions after school when I got home from those classes. Edited November 24 by couplers 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Half MT 234 Posted November 24 We are enjoying our new friends so much having fun and able to talk about sex and life openly. I know how long the men can last so we put it to a test with me being the recipient of a game. Our friend said he could go very long if he could change positions every few minutes so we brought up an article from Men’s Health magazine of 50 positions for sex. The test was we would change positions every five minutes with Timmy and my new girlfriend telling us when to switch. There were positions that weren’t that comfortable or easy and there were positions I didn’t want to change. The result, he was able to hold off, we were exhausted. I got frustrated a number of times not wanting to stop and figuring out the next position. During what we called the change over he started to deflate a little but was up to the challenges. Laughing did brake the mood a few times making it easier for him to keep going. I’m happy he does aerobic training as I was more exhausted. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,435 Posted November 24 4 hours ago, Half MT said: Our friend said he could go very long if he could change positions every few minutes Interesting, but sounds like a lot of work to prove a point. As a slow cummer, I guess I don't really understand, I have the opposite problem, slowing down too much to extend the experience and need to be aware of what the woman wants and speed things up. Quote Share this post Link to post
Numex 2,435 Posted November 24 8 hours ago, couplers said: it was all tied together in sex ed, which in Catholic school was called Family Health. .. I had some very intense masturbation sessions after school when I got home from those classes. Good to know someone who had an intense religious experience when young. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Half MT 234 Posted November 25 6 hours ago, Numex said: Interesting, but sounds like a lot of work to prove a point. As a slow cummer, I guess I don't really understand, I have the opposite problem, slowing down too much to extend the experience and need to be aware of what the woman wants and speed things up. It was fun work with no point to prove. I never felt he finished too soon so this was just a way to have more fun. It wasn’t a challenge it was for laughs and giggles when we saw 50 positions to have sex listed on Men’s Health magazine. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Anon321 523 Posted November 25 Everyone is so different. I've seen some guys finish with my GF before even starting and other guys go so long you don't know if they should see a doctor for having an erection for more than 4 hours. Quote Share this post Link to post
PSULioness 859 Posted November 25 11 hours ago, Half MT said: It was fun work with no point to prove. I never felt he finished too soon so this was just a way to have more fun. It wasn’t a challenge it was for laughs and giggles when we saw 50 positions to have sex listed on Men’s Health magazine. I checked that article and am happy to say I tried many of those positions. When we played in groups most of the time there wasn’t much variation of positions, doggy was the primary with cowgirl being second. Oral positions of all sorts too. At parties most of the guys didn’t take that much time, some only a few minutes, not a problem because would be others willing to go. Thinking about our parties my girlfriends were more willing to finish things guys didn’t. For the changing positions, my ex’s friend that I spent nights with alone was always up to change positions and had the ability to sense my orgasm and we would cum together. Additionally he had a quick recovery time allowing us to have a few mutual orgasms. 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,688 Posted November 26 22 hours ago, PSULioness said: doggy was the primary with cowgirl being second. Interesting. Although guys think I'm sort of dominant, I prefer my MF sex missionary. It turns me on to get naked, get flat on my back, spread my legs and lift them up presenting myself. Make the man do most of the work. To me doggy is for quickies; I cum fast, he cums fast. 22 hours ago, PSULioness said: ... not a problem because would be others willing to go. Nice. I wish I were in that situation more often. 22 hours ago, PSULioness said: my girlfriends were more willing to finish things guys didn’t. Do you mean FF oral? Yeah, that's good. 22 hours ago, PSULioness said: my ex’s friend that I spent nights with alone .. had the ability to sense my orgasm and we would cum together. Additionally he had a quick recovery time allowing us to have a few mutual orgasms. Mutual orgasms are wonderful. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
PSULioness 859 Posted November 26 3 hours ago, couplers said: Interesting. Although guys think I'm sort of dominant, I prefer my MF sex missionary. It turns me on to get naked, get flat on my back, spread my legs and lift them up presenting myself. Make the man do most of the work. To me doggy is for quickies; I cum fast, he cums fast. Can’t think anyone would label me dominant, I have been called submissive or passive in life in general as well as sexual situations. One on one sex I enjoy missionary too for a bunch of reasons including a connection, looking up to see my partner and I still enjoy kissing during sex. I could go on why missionary and its variations are a perfect position. Positions are very situational and I being passive I go along to what others are doing. Sex in larger groups seem to have most doing positions that are different when in small group or private sex. Things also changed the longer I was active. You mentioned doggy is for quickies, when I first went to parties that was the objective of all the guys. 3 hours ago, couplers said: Nice. I wish I were in that situation more often Until it becomes painful. When posts mention gangbangs I go Oh God, Please NO. I question how long any woman can be pounded before exhaustion or pain takes over. 4 hours ago, couplers said: Do you mean FF oral? Yeah, that's good And they understand better. 4 hours ago, couplers said: Mutual orgasms are wonderful. Probably the ultimate conclusion. I find men get the ultimate satisfaction of having a partner climax, women know most men will cum at some point. A mutual orgasm is wonderful unless you still want more. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
couplers 4,688 Posted November 27 (edited) 19 hours ago, PSULioness said: I enjoy missionary too for a bunch of reasons including a connection, looking up to see my partner and I still enjoy kissing during sex. Oh, yes. 19 hours ago, PSULioness said: Sex in larger groups seem to have most doing positions that are different when in small group What's your definition of a "larger group"? I have no experience in that regard. The most for me has been four men and four women, including me - our poly family, another couple and a guy. I really admire you having formed a group of regulars in college. 19 hours ago, PSULioness said: Until it becomes painful. .. I question how long any woman can be pounded before exhaustion or pain takes over. However long a woman likes it, it can be nice to have multiple men doing it quickly rather than one taking his time. 19 hours ago, PSULioness said: men get the ultimate satisfaction of having a partner climax, And they are so proud of themselves when it's from doing oral. 19 hours ago, PSULioness said: A mutual orgasm is wonderful unless you still want more. Then get more - oral, another guy... It's one of the reasons I envy your college group of friends experience. Edited November 27 by couplers 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
PSULioness 859 Posted November 27 1 hour ago, couplers said: What's your definition of a "larger group"? I have no experience in that regard. Larger is more than 5 couples. I’ve been to larger parties that end up being a s..t show. 4 couples like you said you are with is the best so you aren’t missing anything with your poly family. I know a couple who is a bit older than me that has a group with 4 couples and she says she is very happy that way. She said that they enjoy just spending time with one couple at a time which I totally understand. 1 hour ago, couplers said: However long a woman likes it, it can be nice to have multiple men doing it quickly rather than one taking his time. My limit is 3 before I’m feeling it’s too much. After that I’m fine giving a blow job. For me two is fine and as I started to enjoy my girlfriends after two men a girlfriend is the best. 2 hours ago, couplers said: And they are so proud of themselves when it's from doing oral. Don’t we all? I’m proud when I get any person off my oral, male or female 2 hours ago, couplers said: Then get more - oral, another guy... It's one of the reasons I envy your college group of friends experience That’s mostly history, it still happens less frequently and with less friends as we got older. Not saying it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t happen the way it did. I also didn’t play while I was in college, I missed out on some of their free for alls. Happy Thanksgiving 2 Quote Share this post Link to post