Wife wants to watch two men together

[LIZA]

Although traditionally bi activity has only been accepted among women in swinging, I do think that is changing. At least in our area and among the age group we normally meet (under 40) it does not seem to be nearly as big an issue if the man is bi too, compared to how it seemed to be 3 or 4 years ago.
I think if clubs are going to be open to female-bi activity, they should be open to male as well. Not that too many men would participate, not that anyone should be expected to, but to say it is "not allowed" is a pretty old-fashioned idea

[SnittyKitty]

David, there is no difference between oral and anal. And there should be no difference between men & woman, bi-man & bi-women. It's only different because you have issues with it. Personally, I like the idea of having my hindparts fucked, if it'a woman doing it!

This message board, the people who posts their messages, are the very people the 1st Amendment protects. And yet, you choose to deny those ideas because this time it offends your morality?

Reminds me of prayer in public school. We fight and scratch like hell for Christians to have prayer in the school, and once won, the Christians turn around and deny other denominations their right to the same!

The perfect little circle! We have met the enemy and they are us!

[SnittyKitty]

David, there is no difference between oral and anal. And there should be no difference between men & woman, bi-man & bi-women. It's only different because you have issues with it. Personally, I like the idea of having my hindparts fucked, if it'a woman doing it!

This message board, the people who posts their messages, are the very people the 1st Amendment protects. And yet, you choose to deny those ideas because this time it offends your morality?

Reminds me of prayer in public school. We fight and scratch like hell for Christians to have prayer in the school, and once won, the Christians turn around and deny other denominations their right to the same!

The perfect little circle! We have met the enemy and they are us!

[danc694u]

Originally posted by SnittyKitty:
David, there is no difference between oral and anal

Wrong on count one. We both have issues with anal here. But, most certianly not oral.

It's only different because you have issues with it

It's not "differant", it's damn painful! And, since we have issues with inflicting pain on anyone, ourselves included. I guess we do have issues with it.

That said, we'll welcome a couple we are attracted to, into our bed anytime. Even if the male is BI. But, it will be by OUR rules, not theirs. Our rules say, there isn't going to be any anal with either of us, period. :p

[danc694u]

Originally posted by SnittyKitty:
are the very people the 1st Amendment protects. And yet, you choose to deny those ideas because this time it offends your morality

I've been reading all day. But, I still haven't found it. What paragraph is it, that says me taking one up the arse is protected under the first amendment??

If us refusing to do so violates someone civil rights (as in DENY them access to our arse). Then they need to take us to court. And shut the hell up about it.

As I recall, it's a preference. We prefer not too. So we don't. That's all that need be said about it.

There's another thing that seems to be missing in this thread. If by saying that we CHOOSE not to have male on male sex with a Bi Male makes us bad people. Why would it not also make that SAME bi-male a bad person, if he can't respect our preferences.

It's all about preferences.

End of Thread

[yhungry]

Originally posted by <littledick35>:
my wife wants to watch me suck another guy and then join in is that aloud at a swingers place. l like to see her with another female.

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[yhungry]

I would not mind joining you, let me know if u are interested

[Flori_DAMAN]

If you find MM sex distasteful then don't engage or watch it.
I find anal sex distasteful but certainy would not suggest banning it at clubs or in the lifestye.
I find people that are proud of ther sexual orientation to be fakes and blowhards too.
Sexual preference is a matter of very intimate personal feelings.
Of couse if it includes illegal or unconsenting stuff thats different.
The double standard at clubs concerning male bisexuality is nothing more than old fashioned puritanism disguised as machoschism. Most of the guys that get all worked up about it are foot ball nuts and sports addicts that think that being macho means acting like there grandpa.
well grandpa may have never swung but you are acting just like him when you give your unsolicited opinion on how distasteful some consenting sexual activity is.
Personally I dont care if you like it or not. I don't care if you find it distasteful or a turn off. Why bring it up if you aren't trying to be proud of our sexual orientation? Be proud that you are a honest hard working parent, spouse and worker. Leave the sexual pride for how well you get others off.

I may have sounded contradictory with my remarksa bout being turned off by anal sex but I would never bring it up unless it was for an analogy.

I don't hear much about pain durng sex in this forum either. And I do not equate pain with sex but I have watch videos where people really get into it.

Another subject is golden showers. Well Im not going there but if it gets someone excited then let them piss all over each other. Who the hell cares.
It kind of bothers me when someone says.........im straight and intend to stay that way and get offended by people that think its wrong.

do you have any idea that 99 percent of the people think you are normal and right. The true discrimination is with the attitude against bi men, gay men, sado maso stuff and other things that don't fit into the norm.

Why get defensive cuz somoene finds you intolerant of there preferences.
Try putting an article in your local newspaper forum about the wondeful fun you and your wife have found with swinging. lmao

This is the only place where a supposedly open minded sexual couple can put themselves on a higher level than others that just do the same thing but in a different manner.

I am proud that I am a good father, husband and worker. I am not ashamed that I like to suck a dick once in a while and if you find htat distasteful then thats fine. But please give me one reason why you would vocalize that feeling. Then condider if you are truly open minded or sanctimonious. P.S. My wife loves to watch it and thats half the reason. Id love to know if you would do that for your wife or if you just want to watch her do it to other women to satisy your own selfish desires. John

[SnittyKitty]

He's right David! You are a sanctimonious and pompous ass! I must have missed the workshop on those who don't like pain make the rules!

[JustAskJulie]

Originally posted by TNT:


And Chicup, I didn't know there was a "rule" at clubs that if you were a bi-male you could not attend.
Teresa

I think in most cases with clubs you will find it to be a "don't ask, don't tell" situation. Like someone else mentioned, once you get a guy into a private room what you do is up to you. But, in general, bisexuality amongst males is not openly accepted at MOST swing clubs (again it will depend on the club). So going up to guys at a club and asking them to join the two of you for a bisexual encounter would probably not be looked on too kindly... but that doesn't mean that there may not be guys there that wouldn't be open to it. However, I still say your best bet would be to find someone on your own (outside of a club) for this fun.

[LIZA]

I am all for male and female bi-activity. I find 2 men together to be very erotic........However I am turned off by anal sex too. You can be a bi man and NOT be into anal or you can be 100 straight and get totally turned on by a toy in your ass. It's just a matter of personal preferences, many straight guys like it in the ass but would never dream of having a man do it!

[MrBlu]

(Newbie here with a new name)The massive debate. My wife would love nothing more than to see me suck a dick or be the recipient of anal sex. I'd do it for her. Had I never been with her I doubt I would ever do it, but throw her in the mix and yes, I would. She's done me with a dildo; what's the diff? It's funny that SOME people in a situation that could be judged by others for their lifestyle will judge their own for something else. I think that goes beyond a double standard into hypocrisey. I know most on here haven't done that, but it needs be said.
I'd do it; though I haven't.

[BiFriend]

I'm a bisexual man. I would not have claimed that 10 years ago, or even 5 years ago, having been very "straight" for almost all of my adult life. Recently, however, I have come to a place of greater acceptance in myself for what I enjoy, and especially what I seek in the world. And, in many ways, it was VERY liberating for me to explore this side of myself, of being a male in this mixed-up world, and to overcome my own judgements, biases, fears, and ignorance. In my view, this is no different than someone discovering they enjoy photography or winetasting or basket weaving -- when it's all said and done, it's no big deal really...

As it turns out, I really enjoy being with certain friendly, caring men because it is strikingly similar to my most enjoyable experiences with women. This may be a big surprise to people who claim there are big differences between men and women sexually. I have found that there are indeed some differences, but not SIGNIFICANT differences. To me, being with a man can be equally as loving, tender, sweet, sensual, caring, compassionate, hot, and sexy. I really enjoy kissing women, and it was such a pleasant surprise to discover that I could enjoy kissing with my own gender just as much, that good kissing is good kissing, that someone who's a good kisser is a good kisser, that it really isn't a matter of the gender of that person (in most cases ;-) ).

In short, sex with someone doesn't replace something, it auguments it. Being a happy, playful, sexual person isn't an end in itself, it's a means by which we can do other things in our lives. And it's up to us if those things bring us further happiness or if they cause us (and others) further struggle and strife. It's not meant to be a strife.

I sincerely hope this helps.

-- Perry