Billygoat

There are plenty of people, couples, FWB pairs, single/solo and just people in general of all ages, shapes and attitudes in the Lifestyle. Like grains of sand on a beach. Each with their own thoughts, desires, expectations and kinks. The only real list of rules that apply…..no means no and is expressed a number of ways. You do not assume or make assumptions. What goes on in the Lifestyle stays in the lifestyle. No violence, abuse, coercion. In the end it is up to each participant to define their desires, level of participation, limits and exceptions. There is no “owed” or requirement to do or participate at any level. Sadly, there are always a few who step into the LS with the wrong expectations and an attitude that because he/she was there or because they consented to an activity that they are now on the menu for everyone/anyone. Participation does not activate open consent to anyone. we have over 25 years in the LS/ENM/Nudist. We organized and hosted swinger house parties, private play groups, events social as well as intimate and organized fantasy realization 90% for women to act out their inner most fantasies. House parties, hotel events, weekend LS trips you name it. The only thing we never experienced was a commercially run LS club or cruise. Yes, very few experiences with gay males/couples. Many experiences with bi and lesbian couples at swing events. Some only played with other women others enjoy playing both sides…..bi lesbians enjoying the occasional penis. Bi males yes. Mostly in private rooms at a house party. Very rarely in an open room/group/orgy. We never saw any negative attitudes portrayed against them. We even had several trans over the years and two gender transition male to female. I guess it all depends on where you go and the type of party/club you attend.

We both agree. We have been blessed with many very close friends in the lifestyle; women, men. Couples and a number of female couples. We never really met many male couples. Bi men yes, but the only male couples we met over the years in the lifestyle was at LS social events not at any clubs, parties etc. we have a number of them going back to when we first started out in the lifestyle and we are still strong today. sharing sex play is still an option but not the reason we are still tight.

I have always been interested in history, the past, how if any our predecessors social, emotional and sexual practices by clan, tribe or societies around the world throughout human history. I stumbled over this while searching for other information on customs and practices. Evidentially our current environment wasn’t that different. Modern humans/society didn’t invent sex/sexual activities as we know it today….who knew? https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/FeaturesEurope/PrehistoryHohleFels01.htm https://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/phalluses-0018976

I think over our past experiences not much of any activity we were interested in we didn’t experience if not just once than multiple times. If I could wish for anything I would say having continual more poly based relationships with a few of our past lovers or similar long term with others. We had couples and singles/solo FWB and poly relationships that lasted years. These were the best. Not just sex but emotionally, intellectually, adventurous and physically compatible. Enter active open feelings sexually adventurous mutually sharing intimate friends/lovers. there is a female couple that for several years we enjoyed FFM/MF-FM relationship that has waned some due to distance and circumstances. I miss our mutual sharing. Not two on me but a three way pleasuring each other and me pleasuring both of them at the same time. I greatly miss our poly based relationships.

I’m kind of lost on the whole post. No real details to address. Communications, direct and to the point, honest and Frank discussion limits, hard NO and expectations are always a must. It isn’t easy but necessary. Most importantly between those in a relationship. And it should be with all involved in a sexual adventure. Scripted sex play is not very adventurous however everyone involved should have an idea and share their expectations, desires as well as limitations and boundaries. The act should be an adventurous, enjoyable experience for all. It should be inclusive of all based on previous discussions. Communication. There is no one specific way. I might get some blow back on this but women are more adept, more capable of having multiple partners at the same time, both male and female. And are far better at engaging with two or more simultaneously than men are. For men it is a learned skill that also includes self control and using more than their penis to provide sexual stimulation. Women tend to be more spontaneous where men tend to be more singular in their sexual activity in a shared sexual activity.

Great post Fundamental Law! Thanks for adding.

Lubricants are a must, it goes without saying, but….. Every woman is different for self lubricating before penetration. Level of foreplay, excitement, point of time during her cycle, health, frequency, penis size, condom/toy use, age just to point out a few. You can never have too much. Also it should be a lubricant that has been proven safe to use and works for her, for her comfort and to heighten her moment. Used with a condom it will help greatly to keep the condom on and not pulled off during active thrusting. Also allows for a more comfortable withdrawal after completion without that pulling sensation as no fluid has been left inside her. Very important when using toys, a must with larger toys and large erect penises. Just spoke with a late thirties couple new in the lifestyle, a handful of experiences over the past year. They just experienced an ER visit two weeks ago. The short story is they watched a very endowed man with a woman in an open room at a party and both found it exciting and had an interest to maybe try this. They thought it would be fun to try acting this out in roll play to see what her limits might be by trying different sized life like dildos. A trip to the store and they acquired four that appealed to her. Two Sundays back they had the house with no kids and decided to have a hot time together experimenting. For the most part, the time they had was quite pleasurable, according to both. when using the third selection, which was a bit thicker, and longer she had experienced a little bit of discomfort but with her husband using his tongue on her while applying the toy, and a gentle, thrusting motion, she experienced a rather strong orgasm, and this excited both of them very much. The last toy was over 10 inches long, and very thick in comparison to the previous three (many times this size is purchased more as a gag gift). Unfortunately, in their excited state things were rushed a bit. when he finally worked the end, just barely inside her rather than pausing she jumped audibly with discomfort and he pushed this large appendage deep with one thrust. Total fail. Her body was not ready for it at all. The toy bottomed out painfully and the lack of lubrication added to the discomfort for her. Lack of additional lubrication, lack of controlling his excited action to her caused her a great amount of pain. According to her it almost felt like something torn inside her. They then spent the next, according to them hours, trying to remove that item of discomfort from her only to discover with every attempt, it was highly uncomfortable for her, and as she described, felt like a pulling inside her. With this being a life like extra large dildo it did not “deflate“ allowing for more comfortable extraction. They did not use any lubrication. There was not a condom on the toy, which probably would’ve helped with removal if the condom was lubricated. They spent quite a lot of time, trying to get her to relax enough to remove the toy which after sometime they did successfully, but not without a lot of discomfort on her part. She was in so much discomfort and it was not settling down that they ended up making a trip to the ER. After finally being seen and having the embarrassing discussion with a young doctor, she was examined they found some tearing and bruising inside her. A bottle of AstroGlide or similar lubricant used liberally on her, in her and on the toy And much better control on her husband’s part could have made this a better experience And possibly have avoided the outcome they experienced. The same holds true if she was going to experience a larger live erect penis, which most likely would’ve been covered with a condom. So, again lots of lube, can’t use enough or too much. It can make the difference completely on wether it is an experience of a lifetime or highly regrettable. Inexperience, lack of additional lubricants and lack of control on his part caused his wife to go from a fun sexual experience/exploration to being in pain, fearful, embarrassed and in a great deal of discomfort for ten days. The wetter, the warmer…..add lubricant anyway. The slipperier the better. This should have the ease of a slip ‘n slide. Added input or experiences?

The Lifestyle, swinging, has Judges?!? Who knew?

There are many couples that start out this way, most do. But not all move at the same speed to try sharing swapping partners. And that is ok. The Lifestyle is very broad and inclusive: Ethical Non Monogamy sex, Shared sex play, Swapping, Kink and fetish you name it. We’ve met men, women couples from every level and then some. There is not one definition, one lone description that accurately defines swinging, nothing all inclusive. There are many couples who enjoy the freedom, sexual energy, watching and being watched while engaging in open room, group or couples play in the same room or bed. We also know of many who are open active nudists that play/have sex openly at the nudist beach, lake or in a shared Hotel room but separate beds. It is all about open honest communications between all participating, consenting adults, desires and location.

Actually we did talk about that. I thought kegals but she said no. She thought all women could do that and did not discover what she did was unique until after they got into the swinging lifestyle and a couple of partners she played with were quite impressed. Nobody, she had Benin before her husband ever said anything about it being unique and highly pleasurable. While she was dating and later married her husband, he always made a big deal out of it. He thought it was fantastic, of course but she always assumed that that’s just the way all women were. I also asked her if she felt anything different while doing it other than bearing down. It’s more of a feeling of control, that she’s in control of the man she is with that heightens her pleasure.

All women are great experiences and each different than the other. So many experiences but a few do stand out. I have had two experiences with two different women that had a unique ability to grasp/grip (not sure how to phrase this) my cock while I was inside her. She was a full figured woman and a snug fit to begin with. She could do this in missionary position with her legs back like butterfly wings. While thrusting and grinding she would raise her head and shoulders partially off the bed like a slight sit up. Her vaginal canal would feel like it grasped the full length of me. If you were not ready for it she could push you out of her. She would do this every so often and could make a guy cum quicker. It was her thing to do as you start to orgasm she would grip you and hold on as you orgasm heightening the experience. She could also do this squatting on your cock. In this position she could continually grip the length of your cock as she bounced up and down on her ankles. It felt like she was trying to push my cock back into me. I usually can go for 15 - 20 minutes but with her she had the ability and control to make me cum in 8 - 12 minutes and giggle as she did it. She was a great playmate for several years. The second woman was an older woman who could do the same while in a squatting position similar to a crab walk. She loved to spend a lot of time playing and changing positions but when she wanted to make you cum that was her signature go to position. There was a wonderful woman that I knew for many years that was very aggressive orally. She created suction with her mouth and press her tongue against your shaft and took great pride making men cum quickly. And she really enjoyed doing it. She would wreck many men at a party and laugh about it.

Wow. Roberto sorry you had such bad exposure to the lifestyle. I will admit swinging is primarily a couples activity but yes single males and females exist and enjoy the activities as well. Normally if a single male regularly attends a club/party and is personable, engaging and not pushy will experience great interactions and will gain a group of regulars as a trusted playmate. Groups, house parties, semi private events are far better to attend than commercial clubs resorts. Especially for single/solo players. Keep in mind the couples that are active do so to enjoy play time with other couples. Yes threesomes and hot wifing/cucking does happen but it is not the core of swinging. And yes commercial parties and larger home parties do allow single men to attend….at a much higher rate, 2x or 3x of couples charges. And it only takes a few bad apples to cast a negative point of view. Most single males that were regulars, personable, humorous, polite and not demanding as they met couples usually always had their dance card full. I do not know where you have been where you are so exposed to STDs/STIs but Having 25 years in the lifestyle and ten years hosting parties, events, fantasy events and belonging to a group of hosts/managers (where we shared information on couples and singles that were causing issues) we went out of our way to ensure safe practices and STD/STI was extremely rare. Yes some parties/club/events catered to the “beautiful people” and “Gym Rats” the vast majority were attended by every day people of all shapes and sizes. From skinny to extra large (HWP, full bodied, chubby, BBW/BBM, SBBW/SBBM), young (late 20s - 30s and older (40s - 70s FYI most sexually active) 85% of all negative issues at a lifestyle event were by males 50/50 married males and solo/single males being inappropriate usually as a result of to much alcohol. As far as overall looks yes, as in life looks are first, appearance counts, dress to impress. But, looks are only 10% at best. If the good looking couple/man/woman has a bad attitude, deadpan personality, cocky, boring etc etc……..looks go away very fast and will by themselves rarely not seal the deal. And as far as your number 5…..now I call bullshit. Either you have a very narrow set of experiences, only attend one single location repeatedly which was bad or you just haven’t had many experiences. Or maybe it is just a commercial club venue you attended. And the last paragraph you wrote is all bullshit. I have no idea where you went but your observation about women in the lifestyle is so far off base, not even close. And your assumption that only oversexed wives would attend and the rest are just not interested….either your experiences are very limited or non existent. There is very little in your post that ring realistic or true. Your observations must be from negative experiences or just plain lack of experience. Or you really need to find a better place to go.

Queen. I was asked to write about this. I mostly leave this for my husband. I do not write much so forgive me. I have always enjoyed cum from a man. I do not know why. As a teenager I think it was fascination. Maybe a little about I made him do that. My husband was the first to give me an orgasm. Other guys made me feel good but it was always a groping of fingers poking before they pushed into me. I was very lucky those days because my first few experiences were without a rubber. He was the first that used a condom. Just lucky I guess. He was also my first bigger guy that kind of scared me some but it was nice. I didn’t know those things come in sizes. I went on the pill and we have been together from 1976. He was very sexual and would have me most every morning and every night sometimes more. I let him have me when he wanted. So all my life with him I have always had his cum in me Lots of it. The many times he would have me twice at night the second time was a little nicer more wet and slippery. Then when we turned forty things changed. He was the same but my horniness went crazy. And my fantasies started to be very wild. So after some talk we started to explore. And I tried everything I wanted. I have had many gangbangs and many men at parties. These parties condoms were used or if we knew them well no condom but they had to pull out and cum on me or in my mouth. But what I loved was having my boyfriends and husband share me. I had three boyfriends long term. One for seven years so I would have husband and boyfriend threesomes one to three times a week. Sometimes my husband and all three boyfriends at once. They all would cum for me where I wanted on me in my mouth or in me. I liked it most inside me. They shared me all afternoon. It does get very messy and they would wipe me down with warm wet facecloths. I had three special events. Three special male friends, my three boyfriends and my husband. Except for a few breaks and clean ups it was an all afternoon and evening sex. They cum in my mouth or inside me. I was very messy. Cum turns to foam with that much and that many fucking you. We would have a round I would make all seven men cum. Would have coffee and a snack and go again. I always felt them in me as a slippery squishy pressure. Regular size and bigger three hubby and two friends are bigger than my shoe size (8) but I felt all of them. I didn’t feel them cum after I was soaked just got wetter. My butt and crotch was slimy and soaked. We thanked the sweets each time. Then take a break and go again. I went three times around with all of them. At some point I sneezed and what a mess. I felt special. I pleased all these men and they wanted me more I felt really good. I had to wear a wash cloth between my legs on the ride home. I was a little achie but could still take my husband the next night. What I loved most was having a man cum in my mouth at the same time as one cumming inside me. I loved that the most but harder to do unless you are with lovers that know what you like and give it to you. I hope this is good enough what you wanted.

Personally We prefer home videos/pics, amateur video/pics of mature real couples, singles and groups/swingers. Unexpected results, surprises, reactions etc. commercial porn is ok and typical…..often boring, at least for us. However; The revenue from the global porn industry is $100 billion and is expected to increase to $117 billion in 2030. The revenue from the US porn industry is $13 billion. In comparison: the NFL generated revenue of around $12 billion in 2022, and Netflix generated revenue of around $31 billion in 2022. How do porn sites make money: 70% of revenue comes from ads (banners & aff. links), 20% of revenue comes from subscription plans (live webcam, premium, etc.), and 10% of revenue comes from online porn games. Definitely increases sexual imaginations for most. Definitely increases skill sets. ‘Definitely provides out of proportion expectations. Because of our anti sex industry views making sex, sex industry and those (women more than men) negative, societal disgusted point of views. Except for those who watch porn secretly those who make money are looked down on as broken disgusting people (again, women more than men) and against the law in many cases, especially offering sex for cash. We prefer an organized legal sex industry including paid services. There is a great line in the movie Private Benjamin by Goldie Hawn “….I’m a housewife we give it away”. Sadly this is our collective acceptance/attitude towards women and sex.