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    Default Re: What makes a man let another man fuck his wife?

    Sorry...for the earlier two wrong posts we made.... meant for another!

    Coming back to this topic, we learned a lot from all your postings, Spoo . . . well said from the start! . . . its mutual for us to be in this 'crime' . . lol

  2. Back To Top | #77

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    My take

    Humans by our biology are not monogomous animals. Over time we've developed negative feelings such as jealousy. The bond between my wife and I is spiritual and it is silly for us to go against our natural behavior and likes because a few religions developed .00001 of the lifetime of man ago says to.

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    The question is flawed, as has been stated by spoomonkey, but we can give Roundstick a little leeway...may be he didnt mean quite what he said. Like the term 'Wife swapping' has been used since long...and in the flow of thoughts he might just have framed his question the way he did...not really implying that wives were the property of the husbands....like 'Tools'....

    'Swinging isn't about me letting other men fuck her. Swinging is about us, partners in crime'...well I wouldnt indulge in anything I thought was a crime.
    Refering to Swinging as a crime...even as a passing thought...shows that some where in our concience, we feel we are committing an act which is improper.

    well I dont think its a crime...not by a mile. Its an act that builds trust, develops love, improves the quality of life...yu dont have to eye the opposite sex...hiding your appreciation from your partner...and above all it checks you from cheating your partner..thats enough good done for the day...no crime commited.

    My 2 cents worth...anyway

  4. Back To Top | #79

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu View Post
    'Swinging isn't about me letting other men fuck her. Swinging is about us, partners in crime'...well I wouldnt indulge in anything I thought was a crime.
    Refering to Swinging as a crime...even as a passing thought...shows that some where in our concience, we feel we are committing an act which is improper.
    Sorry, but I gotta disagree with you there Stu. "Partner in crime" is a innocent phrase that has long ago entered into common usage as somebody's companions into some sort of activity. I doubt there was any deep-seated subconscious meaning when the phrase was used in this context.

    In this particular usage, I read it as a simple turn of a phrase. No wrong-doing was implied.
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  5. Back To Top | #80

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    you are probably right there chris and amelia...about how spoomonkey used the phrase 'partners in crime'.
    On the other hand I think Roundstick also was not really implying that 'wives were the property of the husbands....like 'Tools'.....' I doubt if any body in this age and time, could imagine so.
    In the same breadth 'wife wapping'...isnt it a terminology used since long, and in the flow of thoughts Roundstick might just have framed his question the way he did.
    Well I though Spoomonkey was being too harsh on Roundstick,..equating women with tools' ...and I just wanted to convey to Spoomonkey, we must be gentle with our critisism...that was hitting below the belt
    I should feel very offended if one implied that i believed wives were the property of the husbands....like 'Tools'....
    I am quite sure, Roundstick didnt imply so,either just as in Spoomonkeys use of the phrase 'partner in crime' ...did not have any 'deep-seated subconscious meaning.

  6. Back To Top | #81

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    To me its like watching a porn movie with your wife as the porn star...LOL Plus she just loves to fuck and who am I to deny her? She is such a sexual person and its just so hot to see her with another guy. She says she loves to perform for me and I know she loves it when I fuck her just fucked pussy..always cums right away, and so do I usually.

  7. Back To Top | #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundstic View Post
    Just wondering why a man would let another man fuck his wife?
    Is there and scientific studies ever been done?
    Or is it just ure pleasure?
    Thanks
    Yes, scientific studies have been done resulting in the theory that due to evolution, when a man knows or suspects his mate has been with another man, he becomes aroused in order to inseminate his mate with 'killer sperm' to kill off the other man's sperm thereby preventing inpregnation by him. This theory arose due to the discovery of 'killer sperm' and speculation as to why it had ever come into being. So, a conclusion based on this theory is that suspecting, knowing, or actually watching one's mate having sex is biologically very arousing for a man regardless of jealousy issues. It also implies that in order for the situation to have arisen in the first place, prehistoric women had to have regularly had at least two sex partners, one that they were committed to and at least one other that they cheated with. So, modern swinging and open marriages may be seen by some as being an 'evolved' way of dealing with a human social-biological reality.

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    Default Re: What makes a man let another man fuck his wife?

    Speaking as the female half of the couple, Mr. Sweet no more "lets" me fuck other men any more than I "let" him fuck other women. As Spoo so eloquently stated, we choose to embark on this adventure together, with mutual respect. I've said numerous times around here that the differences between cheating and swinging (FOR US) are knowledge and consent. Consent (to me) means mutual agreement--not permission, per se.

    But that doesn't address the essence of the OP's question. Why DO we fuck other people? We enjoy the variety of sexual activity with others, and enjoy seeing each other please and be pleased by others. Put simply, it's just plain FUN!

    =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu View Post
    you are probably right there chris and amelia...about how spoomonkey used the phrase 'partners in crime'.
    On the other hand I think Roundstick also was not really implying that 'wives were the property of the husbands....like 'Tools'.....'
    Actually, I wasn't equating his question to "wives as tools". It was an analogy; a handy little thing that helps one make a point. My point being that I do not 'let' men fuck my wife. She does.

    As for the "partners in crime" - I do not share your literalist view of the phrasing used in this thread... And will continue to use that phrase to describe mine and Mrs Spoo's relationship.

    Sorry, but semantic arguements irritate me, especially when the meaning on both counts should be fairly obvious.

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    There's another thread where I ask about the secondary who still had(has) trouble understanding why I'd "let" my spouse have a relationship with him. Why his concerns keep coming up after they've been together for many months is still a (different) question -- but they do keep having discussions.

    The last time they talked, she used a phrase like "I think is just allowing/permitting to happen, what would naturally happen had you and I met and were unencumbered with spouses".

    True love multiplies, never divides -- or SO and I believe so. Why should I stand in the way of her being happy in the love of more than one?

    (And before horror stories of broken marriages emerge, our partnership was strong to start and has become even stronger. But you'all already know that swinging will expose any flaws in a relationship, and a couple should not swing if they aren't secure.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdy46227 View Post
    (And before horror stories of broken marriages emerge, our partnership was strong to start and has become even stronger. But you'all already know that swinging will expose any flaws in a relationship, and a couple should not swing if they aren't secure.)
    Even if the horror stories emerge, what works for the two of you, works. You don't need our approval.

    Honestly, I am uncomfortable with the "L-word" when it comes to swinging, but to each his own. What makes it for you is what makes it; the horror stories of others be damned.

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    Amen Spoo! From a woman with a husband that sees thing like you do!
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    With utmost reluctance i must point your attention to the words you have used and the sense they make. I understand that you might not have meant that but again.. You see when we say we are swingers, than that actually means just that - Swinging, but again that wouldnt mean that one would or is "letting" other out rather its "we let ourselves out" . I appreciate spoo on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoomonkey View Post
    Actually, I wasn't equating his question to "wives as tools". It was an analogy; a handy little thing that helps one make a point. My point being that I do not 'let' men fuck my wife. She does.

    As for the "partners in crime" - I do not share your literalist view of the phrasing used in this thread... And will continue to use that phrase to describe mine and Mrs Spoo's relationship.

    Sorry, but semantic arguements irritate me, especially when the meaning on both counts should be fairly obvious.

    Spoomonkey

    Though Roundstic, has started this poll, I dont see any posts written by him in his own thread.

    That is disturbing.

    we visit this forum, for encouragement, advice, knowledge....

    not for oneupmanship

    putting down Roundstic, in the manner, that Spoomonkey did, would have discouraged any mamber, that was relatively new, not that confident....from writing

    I only meant to convey, and i think I have, that if any one does not agree with anothers point of view, or can find major flaws, in his style of writing, the right thing to do would be to say your bit in a more diplomatic way, rather than in a way that shamed him ( Roundstic in this case).

    Its that simple.

    And it wasnt an argument...semantic or otherwise..I was merely conveying my point of view...not arguing, just like I am conveying them now.

    The question merely is...should Roundstic feel insulted, by the way Spoomonkey shredded his question...

    I would

    We are not here to insult anybody

    or, for that matter, be insulted.

    Semantic arguments may be irritating .....but insults are infuriating

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu View Post
    Though Roundstic, has started this poll, I dont see any posts written by him in his own thread.
    Let me help you out with that.
    Roundstic's second post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by two4youinswva View Post
    Let me help you out with that.
    Roundstic's second post.
    He has also posted at least one other thread since starting this thread. Also, keep in mind that this thread originated over a year ago. This thread has gone domant and then been brought back to life several times since then.

    Maybe Spoo did take the question a little differently than it was intended but that does happen on forums such as this. However, I did not see anything in the post that was meant as insulting or degrading to the OP. Unfortunatley, when you can't hear someone ask a question you can't gather where their emphasis lies and words may be taken differently than the intention behind them. When this occurs it is up to each of us to make an attempt to clarify what we did mean (if it was different than the way someone took it). It happens to each of us at some point, it's a fact of life in dealing with forums.
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    Sorry, I missed Roundstic's second post.

    If a person treats his wife as a mere tool...it is degrading/insulting to the wife...on that score i doubt if any one would have a different point of view

    similarly, if it is suggested that a person behaves in the above manner...and if thats not true...then it would be an insult to this person...I doubt if there can be two points of view on that, either.

    However, julie has also expressed her views, and she is the adminstrator, we all hold her in respect. I therefore, withdraw from this discussion,

    Anything indecorous, was unintentional

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    Perhaps the simplest and most useful thing would be if the question was rephrased to communicate:

    How is it possible for a man to enjoy his wife fucking other men and encourage her to do so? What about it is erotic and appealing?


    Then the intended spirit and direction of the question would be possible. I think it is an interesting topic.

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    My wife is my best friend and probably the kewlest person I know. We've been married since 6 Aug 1988, still hold hands, still get mistaken for newlyweds and still have sex ( a lot of sex ) just between ourselves.

    Our love has never been questioned but we have very strong sex drives and love to see new friends naked. I am never so horny as when I'm fucking someone else's wife in the same room where my wife is sweating and moaning as someone else's husband is giving her some good hard strange.

    The memory of the encounter will make us extra horny for several following months, lead to hotter sex between just us + the thrill of another potential meeting with a new couple just keeps our vicious circle getting better !

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    Stu.... those of us who have been here a while are familiar with a type of post that some of us call "drive-by" posts. Somebody will create an account, start a thread on an inflammatory topic, and then never return (or silently watch the resulting debate and turmoil.)

    We're a pretty friendly group, not afraid of a healthy discussion. But there is a certain amount of... cynicism when somebody with a very low post count or brand-new Join Date pops up to start a threat which appears custom-made to "stir it up" or appears to be somebody's fantasy.
    I find your ideas intriguing and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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    Chris & Amelia WE have been here for over three years, read posts here on a more or less regular basis. Mostly, I find them honest & informative.

    This no doubt is an excellent forum, and I feel I was lucky I found it.

    I have never started a thread...of any kind... and have written few posts .... only 23.

    And yes, I am a part of this friendly group

    I have already stated in my last post, I have withdrawn from this discussion

    it would be better to keep the atmosphere light and friendly here.

    However if you wish to continue this dialogue, you could send me a mail on yahoo...

    I hope you were not refering to us, as one of those custom made 'stir it up' people ....

    because...that would hurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu View Post
    I hope you were not refering to us, as one of those custom made 'stir it up' people ....

    because...that would hurt
    No, I was not referring to you, or anybody in particular actually. I think you've been quite articulate in your posts.
    I find your ideas intriguing and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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    I saw one response that said that 'wives are not property'. That's very true and I don't let my wife do anything. She's always had her freedom and since we've been in 'the lifestyle' I enjoy what she enjoys. She has several sex partners and I enjoy mfm threesomes and especially having her suck me while she's being fucked.

  24. Back To Top | #99

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    Well thankyou, Chris & Amelia

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