I have first ventured (1995)into swinging with a wonderful couple that have become dear friends over the years and as a single guy they have introduced to several of their single lady friends that I've then taken to other parties, now, my friend's wife does infact enjoy time where its an arranged gangbang and I call it a form of swinging, her husban d and I enjoy the energy where several guys filling her, satisfying her and she gets off on the supply of hard guys taking their turn...a win win for her a win win for the guys...it may not be everybody's thing and it takes a certain type of outlook for a guy to find that creampie a turn on and a subforum may well be a great idea.