My experience last night....

[Jersey1979]

Ok, I GET IT. I did something you all dont approve of. I MADE A MISTAKE. So it's obviously not going to happen again. My fiancee and I discussed it. Although you arent all in our shoes, or know us, or the situation, we agreed it isnt going to happen again with him or anyone else.

For the last time...IT'S NOT A MADE UP STORY.

Im so done with this thread and the accusations that I'm getting and the judgement that is being placed one me. Talk amongst yourselves if you feel the need for my "made up story", but I wont be participating in the thread.

[Amanda69]

Posted by she_N_jaybee But I shouldn't nitpick. What I think is it's a rather detestable way to treat another human being. If your fiancee had told Mike what she wanted to do, and that she had your approval, great! All power to the people! But instead you chose the path of deceit, totally insensitive to the potential hurt for Mike.

Post by Jersey1979 Let me know what you think.

Jersey asked what people thought of his "story" and he got an opinon. Granted it was one he didn't like but then again if you don't want an opinion, don't ask.

As it happens I agree with she_N_jaybee, getting pleasure out of emotionally and sexually manipulating other people isn't a good thing. It can come back to bite you in the ass one day. Then again that is "what "I" think".

[lovinher]

Jersey 1979...Just learn from it and move on. If you stick around long enough you will understand where everyone was coming from.

[Just Passing By]

I know this is old. And the origonal participants eventually made their points to each other, and more or less settled things in '06.
But, there are a couple items adressed that I feel would be of broader relavence .
First is credibility of seemingly trite, cliche, sterotypical fantasy. Back in '80 or '81 I had an unexpected encounter ( one on one, not swinging related) that could have come directly from the letter section in the front of Penthouse. Imeadately after the mystery woman drove off into the night I said to myself : " Nobody will believe this", " I'm not sure I believe this , and I was there participating ! ", and finally " well damn, maybe at least some of those letters ARE true after all"
There is a catch 22 in regard to younger people. Many in the "offical lifestyle comunity" feel that they are too young and inexperienced to properly conduct themselves. Mostly those young people with asperations beyond pure vanilla just randomly try things amoungst themselves, and their equally inexperienced peers. Most of them don't know that there is an "offical lifestyle handbook" with all the rules. The OP at least seemed to realize there was a lot they didn't know, and came to a good venue to learn.

[Just Passing By]

I know She n Jaybee was trying to make a point, rather than instruction in creative writing, but ....
I occasionally dabble in short erotic stories, privately for, or occasionally in collaboration with friends so inclined. *** Never try to pass fiction as real life*** But interesting fiction often benefits from realistic detail. "For me", i feel that precisley plotted out timelines aren't that key. In my dabbling I focous on realistic sexual activity, and realistic settings. A few have been nearly autobiographical, with just enough changed to protect the guilty. But more typically would be a little extrapolation to make it interesting, but still possable, and believable, at least to intended audience.
Other than the usual mechanical issues of creative writing , the challenge is to keep the pacing, and overall length in basic compliance of how such activities would play out in real life. Or pretty darn close.
In a way I'm cheating in knowing the preferences and inclinations of intended audience, and thereby either follow, or streatch in calculated ways.
I have no idea if these are "good", but I enjoy writing them, and the reciepients generally like them, or if not it's due to miscalculation their boundry tweaking.

[darted]

Originally Posted by Jersey1979

Well sorry it isnt your thing or you dont agree. I was just sharing my evening.like I said, we are fairly new to things...and I apologize if I offended people. I honestly really didnt think that my post would have such a reaction.

Yes, I realize it does seem like a false story that I picked up out of "Letters" but then again, we did kind of set it up that way as we both avidly read the magazine.

Sorry I cant provide an experience that involves a great house party or a great swing club as we havent matured to that stage just yet...we are just doing what we can with what we agree to as a couple. I think everyone can understand that.

In addition, am "I" really the one that treated someone so "detestable"? Mike thought he was getting on an engaged woman. He was asking her to get in his truck and fuck her. Under other circumstances, where I would not have approved, he could be called a variety of names. I think it's a two way street. And of the 3 people involved, no one is complaining.

i just want to say im so sorry about the response to your post we thought it was great and fun and just like you we are new to this we didnt like yous realise swinging was an exact science we thought of it as having fun and using your imagination dont let the swinging snobs get you down

[Jake1178]

Well as far as Mike is concerned: Although playing him like this is normally very WRONG, because he's going after a committed woman, he is setting himself up for it. The only other morality question is that because he's an ex, he has a history, and maybe there are feeling there.

Wouldn't it been exciting if she had gotten in the truck? To me going a little too far is kind of exciting, although at the moment a bit disturbing. I remember my wife just kissing a guy, it was supose to be just a little kissing and maybe some up the shirt action. She ended up with her vagina filled with his semen.