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My husband and I have been to several clubs and we are a bit surprised by how much, Swinging (swapping) really goes on. We are considered a very attractive couple and personally, we don't look to trade partners but, we do enjoy performing and watching others. However, what we've noticed is that we would estimate the number of couples who choose to swap is very low say, 5%. Most couples choose to attend for the same reason, to be watch and watch.

 

This brings up two questions:

 

1) Are we right or wrong in our estimation of the no. of couples who swap? What would others estimation to be?

 

2) It's pretty obvious of why anyone would want to watch but, I have a time explaining the thrill of having someone watch us.

 

Any feedback would be appreciated.

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We assume you are speaking of on premise clubs. Our experience with on premise clubs here in Texas is that nearly 100% are there to swap. As a matter of fact, the only people not participating at the last club we attended was the staff.

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We have been to the Green Door here in Las Vegas twice and I have to admit to being a bit disappointed. Most people are indeed there, not to swap, but to watch or be watched. I would say that the 5% you state would be accurate.

 

Our next place to visit is Couples Oasis which is a private couples only club which sounds a bit more promising. Of course, I'm sure there are some who will be there only to watch and be watched. Everyone is looking for something different. But I feel the percentage of those who are looking to swap will be a bit higher than 5%.

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I think it's going to depend a lot on what club you go to. Some clubs tend to lean more towards actual swapping, while others seem to attract more soft-swinging (exhibitionist/voyeur) type couples. Another factor is the ratio of newbies to experienced (and regulars to that club). If a club has more newbies then the chances are they are going to have less swapping. Same thing if there are more folks at the club who are regulars there and have gotten to know each other and feel comfortable together.

 

 

 

 

If you want to put a poll together regarding this topic, myself or one of the mods can merge it with this thread, if you'd like.

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Yes, I was refering to On-Premisis clubs. Who knows why one club would be different but, in the Chicago area, the percentage who swap seems low. Now I know this may kick up the heels of some Chicago folks but, that's alright, its just an observation.

 

People go to Swing Clubs for different reasons and, those who attend are least we are on "the same page" of enjoying the sexual erotism these partys have. And, thanks on the motto of Swing Clubs, No-Means-No policy, does well for those who do not care to share.

 

This doen't mean we don't play, we certainly do our share and enjoy getting naked in front of a lot people we don't know and doing all kinds of sexual acts uninhibited. Then: get to go home after the weekend, knowing we've been naughty and its highly unlikly anyone we come into contact with in our daily lives will ever know what fun we've had. Thats the fun we have!

 

Dirtykids

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Wow, this sounds familiar as Mrs. and I were just discussing this topic after our last night out. We have also noticed that a large percentage of couples are at the club to watch but not participate. Of the ones that are their to participate a quite a few of those are looking for a bi female and the husband/ boyfriend just wants to watch. Sucks for us straight couples interested in swapping.

 

At the club we go to the majority of couples that go are probably interested in swapping, but we have found that if we approach a couple that we both find attractive the odds are probably less than 1 in 5 that they will be interested in swapping for straight sex. We have even been approached by a couple that said they found us attractive and wanted to know if we would be willing to have sex while they watched. I said I wasn't really in to that, I told them I was more of an audience participation kind of guy. When you factor in the fact of how difficult it is to find two couples who find each other mutually attractive or compatible to begin with, it really thins out the odds.

 

But every once in a while you beat the odds and find a compatible couple, so I guess that is what keeps you coming back.

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We've been to this club 4 times last year. The numbers of couples and people participating varied widely depending on the night.

 

Its hard to tell, of course, given that there are several large group spaces and 10 or so private bedrooms, which may or may not have their curtains/doors open for viewing, but I'd say a third or half of total there are sexually active.

 

Course, as I write this I realize since we don't know the majority of people there, it is pretty darn hard to tell who's with the partner they came with and who's with someone different.

 

Its not like a light bulb goes off over their heads when swapping occurs!

 

Its a bit easier, though, when its more than three in the pussy pile.

 

:kiss::eek::fun::bj::facelick:

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Your Mileage may vary!

 

We have traveled for many years to conventions and clubs, all on premise in different states along with running a Lifestyles site so we get to talk to many people in the Lifestyle. Some of them newbies yet others been in it for over thirty years.

 

One thing is fact, there is not as many "swingers" at clubs or convention as there used to be yet there is ten times more people coming to both then their used to be.

 

Our home club here in Vegas normally has 300 plus people at it each Saturday night. On most of those Saturday nights there will be about 15% to MAYBE 20% that play on a good night. Some nights the % is half that. Half the people at our home club are locals the balance is tourists.

 

The major convention here in Vegas each year we have also found that since there is 2500 to 3000 people at it that about 15% to 20% are also players. The people at convention come from all over the country/world.

 

We went to what was a great club in Florida, about 250 people there. It was a beautiful club but NO ONE was playing at all there on a Saturday night.

 

Many of us that have been in the Lifestyle many years have seen the same thing. The numbers of people "in" the lifestyle has grown greatly but a major portion of them do not swing. They all have their reasons for being in/around swingers and it is all good as far as we are concerned.

 

We tend to go to play parties since that is what we personally look for most of the time. Some locals here hold house parties or sometimes there is special parties at our home club that is geared toward the "players" in the crowd. When those parties are held there as been 200 to 250 people showing up and I would say that 90% to 95% of them are there playing.

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Originally posted by JustAskJulie

 

If you want to put a poll together regarding this topic, myself or one of the mods can merge it with this thread, if you'd like.

 

I'd be interested in seeing such a poll, Julie.

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My wife and I have made the same observation at the club, Freedo Acres, we go to the most. In fact, we think that the term "swinging" is outdated. It's too retro. We think that it keeps people away who would really enjoy the freedom without the hassle that you get at a place like Freedom Acres. It was the "swing" connotation that took a lot of talking on my part to get my wife to go. But now my wife is often the one who suggests we go to the club. We do not swap partners but we love the club, the erotic atmosphere, and have great sex there. In fact, I'm not so sure that my wife wouldn't go along with some playing with another couple under the right conditions. But the fact is that people respect your space at Freedom Acres.

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Originally posted by sensalicious

Club Oasis in Ft. Wayne...

 

We've been to this club 4 times last year. The numbers of couples and people participating varied widely depending on the night.

 

Ft. Wayne? Never heard of it. We go to Club Utopia all the time...

 

Looks like we have a couple "locals" here on this thread. SW Michigan, we grew up there... and we go to Ft> Wayne about once a month. Going there this Friday as a matter of fact. Were there last Friday as well :)

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We have to agree with Sonja & Brett about FA We've only been two times and didn't play with anyone but each other, but it seemed that most people who went to "the back room" also walked in the front door together or greeted each other like long lost friends. I think it might be the fear factor and people only want to play with people they already know. Maybe it has to do with how many new couples they bring in every week[ We will probably go back when we settle down here, but we are talking about finding something closer to home or more worth the drive.

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Seems to me there are a lot of variables involved here. First off, are these clubs on-premise or off-? I've yet to attend, or even heard of (until now) an on-premise club that did not have plenty of swapping going on, at least here in Texas.

 

After all, how many people are going to be willing to pony up the kind of money the average on-premise club charges for admission and then not at least consider playing. Or if you are not looking to swap, then you are not swingers to start with, but just a couple who gets off on exhibitionism.

 

If it is an off-premise club with or without the ubiquitous "back room(s)", it may appear there is less swapping going on simply because there is really no safe place to play.

 

Another variable is whether or not you fit into the group in terms of the preferred age and attractiveness level (i.e., are you Barbie and Ken clones or not). First on-premise deal I ever attended we struck out utterly for just that reason; most of the attendees were twenty-and thirtysomething beautiful people types. Hell, we didn't even extrude on most of those people's consciousness, at least until we got into the hot tub, and the half dozen or so pretty people who were already in it promptly got out and stayed out until we got the message and left, after which they all promptly piled back in.

 

Something else that may have a bearing is people's fear of catching something in the way of an STD, particularly if they don't know you.

 

Or maybe there's just something in the water up Indiana and Illinois way...:)

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Bear,

 

To answer your questions regarding on or off premise, and level of attractiveness, you need to read more the replies after the initial thread.

 

Yea, you are right. Because we don't swap then, that makes us not real Swingers. Does that make us less...... say, honorable? Less fun? So what if we like to watch and be watched and be in a setting of like minded people. Only then, are we among our piers(sp). Perhaps the the clubs should be renamed the: Swing/Voyeur/Exhibition association. From what has been replied, most don't swap, and most go for the excitement of being in a sexually charged atmosphere. And, whats wrong with that? At least there is a place for us to go. It sounds like you are unhappy with people who don't fit the bill of "Real Swinger".

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Originally posted by dirtykids

My husband and I have been to several clubs and we are a bit surprised by how much, Swinging (swapping) really goes on. We are considered a very attractive couple and personally, we don't look to trade partners but, we do enjoy performing and watching others. However, what we've noticed is that we would estimate the number of couples who choose to swap is very low say, 5%. Most couples choose to attend for the same reason, to be watch and watch.

 

This brings up two questions:

1) Are we right or wrong in our estimation of the no. of couples who swap? What would others estimation to be?

 

2) It's pretty obvious of why anyone would want to watch but, I have a time explaining the thrill of having someone watch us.

 

Any feedback would be appreciated.

 

You aren't far off base, in our travels (been to many clubs) we have not seen many partners exchanged. Maybe its the changing times and or attitudes but we don't see as many people exchanging partners and see more people in personals who just wish to watch and not swap.

 

Hope this helps...

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I'm not speaking for Bear; this is my own version of what I've been told..... some people think that until you fully sexually swap partners with at least one other couple, you aren't swingers. Kindof like a swinger graduation? I dunno lol.

 

One of the things about swinger get togethers is that yes, there will be a lot of flirting, some folks may play, some may not.

 

The flirting, dancing, groping, kissing is lots of fun but doesn't mean that sex will follow. It still boils down to if you ALL want to get more intimate, or not. Have no expectations. I've been to events where I've kissed, groped and danced with every man there...and we never went any further.

 

We've seen how this can cause some couples consternation. If she's kissing me and grabbing me, why aren't we going 'all the way'? Because.... that isn't their desire for you at the moment. They are just having fun in a sexually charged atmosphere. And ya, you may see them go to the 'back rooms' with another couple, and you may not understand that. They found a couple they were hot to trot for, and who felt the same towards them. With you, they were enjoying some light flirtation and fun, nothing more obviously if you weren't asked to do more.

 

I can see how this confuses some people new to this. It's mostly exploration and sexually titilating fun and nothing more until you connect with a couple on a more intimate level through that exploration and you all think 'YA!!!' and off you go for more intimate play.

 

Reading this just burned my butt:

 

quote:

at least until we got into the hot tub, and the half dozen or so pretty people who were already in it promptly got out and stayed out until we got the message and left, after which they all promptly piled back in.

 

How rude they were!!!!

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Maybe we're just sluts in NJ. :)

 

Always seems like there is a lot of sex going on at the on-premise clubs, and I presume it to be mostly swapping. It's usually not just one couple involved.

 

At the meet-n-greets (or off-premise party at a non-lifestyle establishment), there are a lot more newbies showing up. Some don't want to go the whole way on their first night. Not that we haven't played with some newbies after the party was over.

 

Online personals work better for us because there's a lot more info passed in the profile and we seem to make better matches that way.

 

I imagine like anything that it varies from region to region or club to club. But I can assure you, at least around here there is a lot of it happening.

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So how do us watch and want to be watched couples meet each other. When we go to a club we usually sit alone because we assume most other couples are there for more. Should there be a Form for couples who only want to watch and be watched? We belong to another site but nearly all the couples there are looking to full swap. We're just not ready for that yet. Any suggestions?

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We've only been to one club - and only once did we leave without playing. We are a full swap kind of couple.

 

However, if an exhibitionist pair (regardless of what definition they fall under; swinger, non-swinger, undergrad...) approached us with "we'd love to watch you two" I think we'd be flattered and - assuming there was chemistry and cross-interest - I think we'd be very happy with that kind of play. Mrs Spoomonkey's first "swing fantasy" was actually more along the lines of "same room" stuff.

 

Everyone has a different way of playing - and we not only respect that, but are often intrigued by it. So - if you are ever in a club, and meet a couple you like, I say don't worry about what they'd do with a different couple, ask if they'd like to play with you, within your boundaries. There is no doubt that would be incredibly erotic and highly charged. And if those things are there, we'd love to be too :kissface:

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When you go to an ON Premise here in Texas there is a lot more swapping going on than anything else. Maybe we live a little faster or a little larger than a lot of folks in other locations do. There are motel and house parties out here that are very much "leave your drawers at the door" events. It can be very literally walk in, and climb on.

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Should there be a Form for couples who only want to watch and be watched? We belong to another site but nearly all the couples there are looking to full swap. We're just not ready for that yet. Any suggestions?

 

 

There isn't much more you can do than what you are doing now....be open about your desires in meeting other couples. Just keep it out there and stay positive...and patient :)

 

We know of and have met several couples where both are completely straight, and they have a similar challenge, given the preponderance of bi women in couples. I myself am not 'bi inclined' and this hasn't stopped us from attending house parties and meeting other couples for fun and frolic. I am usually asked if I am bi or not, and my answer allows other couples to decide about going further, or not.

 

As I think about it tho, rarely have we been asked if we full swap or not, or same room or separate. Hmmmmm.

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We go to Utopia as well....... actually alot. We normaly go on Saturday nights just because there are way more people there than on Fridays. There are always exceptions to the rule though. For instance I heard that last night was pretty busy there. As for for how many swing vs. watch.... that varies as well. All I can attest to is that we've never had any problems finding an interested couple to play with :D

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As in our own case we may not be considered swappers but best friend lovers and haven't strayed past that yet. So here's my two cents. I am thinking swapping in our catagory exceeds well above the 5% suggested above for one simple reason....... many of us are to shy to openly admit swinging goes on in a relationship yet practice the art every chance we get. These same people don't read this forum or advertise for others but do enjoy bedding someones spouse for a night of bliss. I have to say upon my observations it goes 12.5% if you included the "closet swappers"

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Originally posted by kandj

We go to Utopia as well....... actually alot. We normaly go on Saturday nights just because there are way more people there than on Fridays. There are always exceptions to the rule though. For instance I heard that last night was pretty busy there. As for for how many swing vs. watch.... that varies as well. All I can attest to is that we've never had any problems finding an interested couple to play with :D

 

Yeah it was pretty busy. One sign-in sheet was full and another had about 10-15 lines taken up. Three single ladies, and more single men than normal.

 

We almost always play with the door/window shade open and the chain up... we had tons of people watching the entire night. No "hook up" though. :( Maybe we should talk and see how it goes. :)

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The resonses have confirmed my thoughts about how much swinging really goes on. Sure, some places are "hotter" than others but, for the most part, the amount of true Swinging is minimal.

 

Also, I appreciate the truth spoken here. It's easy to build an image of having the greatest sex anywhere but; there is comfort in numbers of people of who have similair experiences.

 

Dirtykids

 

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I think this is a great thread for the couples new to on premise clubs to read. Will alleviate their fears of feeling they must have sex with any and all present.

 

We have mostly off premise clubs here in Ontario which means that when couples meet at the club and want to play more, they must relocate to a hotel room or other after hours party to do so.

 

These are invitation only and most certainly mean there will be swapping going on. Same with house parties.

 

Again...it's all desire and connecting when YOU choose to do so..no matter what the venue.

 

And then there are the 'one on ones'.. couples who meet other couples for dinner or drinks, and more, if everyone clicks.

 

This is one poll I would have liked to have seen - how much swapping really goes on, and where. :)

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Things seem substantially hotter in the south. Our on premise club had between 50 and 60 couples last Saturday night and not only was everyone except the staff nekkid, most of the ppls were not with their regular partner. We have never been to an on premise club where swapping wasn't the norm.

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We have gone to a few clubs basically just to socialize. If we want to share pleasures, we meet for dinner and take it from there. Although we swap mates, we always play in the same room, usually in the same bed. So I guess we are someones definition of "real".

Please let me know when the elections are held for the swinger's grand poobah and definitions board.

J

 

btw, there is no 'a' in 'definitely'

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We are going to our first club this Saturday.:claps:

 

We were thinking that meeting another couple for sex would be a given. From what I am reading in this thread couples only seem to hook up 10 - 20% of the time. We figured we only had a 10 - 20% chance of NOT meeting a couple for same room sex.

 

I know each club is probably different as well as different parts of the country but the majority of the posts in this thread seem to lean to the side of less swining not more goes on.

 

We are going to an off premice club.

 

 

We were thinking we have a Very good chance of meeting a couple and a very small chance of not.

 

Do we have it backwards? Are we setting our expectations to high??

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We have only gone to on premise clubs, but I would have to say that if a person goes expecting to hook up you are probably setting yourself up for a dissapointing experiance. If you are reasonably outgoing, you should have no problem meeting a lot of nice people, but it has been our experiance that finding four people that all find each other attractive, compatable and interested in the same things sexually can be more of a challenge. Thats not to say it can't happen, but my wife and I take the attitude that we will go expecting nothing but are ready for anything. At the club we regularly go to we have went several times in a row and not hooked up with anybody for sex, we have also hooked up with more than one couple in one night. So we just go expecting to have a good time no matter what happens and usually are not dissapointed. We always have each other, so if we don't hook up with another couple we just take matters in our own hands.

 

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    • By Ntexcouple
      I have posted several stories about Dee’s and my adventures in the swinging lifestyle. Then, I lost the love of my life to a drunk driver. I never knew a hurt as bad as losing the one person that gave meaning to my very soul. The first year I was just getting by, living if you want to call it that, day to day. I would wake up, go to work, come home, and sit outside drinking and feel sorry for myself. I still had friends that Dee and I had made, and they would try to get me out from time to time, but I just felt I was the odd man out, and it was more of a pity fuck than anything else was.
       
      Sue and Don were our best friends in the lifestyle, and they tried their best, but without Dee, I just couldn’t get back into it anymore. One Saturday, I was at home setting out by the pool, drinking, and, as usual, feeling sorry for myself when Sue showed up. She walked into the backyard, took one look at me, and gave it to me with both barrels.
       
      She said that Dee was dead, and as much as we loved her, that was not going to change. She is dead, and she is gone, and the way I was living my life, I might as well be dead also. Dee loved life, and she would not want me to be living like I was. She told me it was time for me to move on and start living again. After about an hour of us talking and crying, she had to get back home. I sat there the rest of the afternoon, thinking about what she had said and how true it was. Dee would not want me moping around, just like if I had been killed in that crash; I would want her to get on with her life. I set the beer down and just thought of all the things Sue had said. I called her that night and told her she was right and it was time that I started living again. She said that they were going to go to a house party the next weekend, and they had a friend that wanted to meet me. She told me her friend had seen some pictures of me, and she would e-mail some pictures of her, and if I wanted, she would fix us up for the party. I agreed, and she sent the pictures of Nancy for me to look at.
       
      The pictures she sent were of Nancy clothed, and I know the pictures of me that Sue had were not clothed pictures but were pictures of some of the parties we had been to. So she had the advantage over me in that regard. Nancy is a good-looking woman about 7 years younger than me, 5’6"/7" tall. She had blond hair and a good-looking body, from what I saw in her swimsuit picture. I called Sue the next day and told her that I would like to meet Nancy. She gave me her phone # and said she was expecting a call from me. She also said to be at their house at 6:30 Friday night, and we would all go to the party together.
       
      I called Nancy, and we talked for about an hour just to get to know something about each other. She knew all about Dee from Sue and said she went through something like that 3 years ago. Her husband of 18 years just up and left her with twin boys to raise. She had been single a little more than a year when her sons went off to college, and she decided to start living her life for herself. She was upfront and outspoken and said that she had always liked sex, but over the years, it had become predictable and ho-hum with her husband until he left. She told me that she got into swinging with a friend from work and her husband. She found that she liked the excitement of having sex with different people, both men and women, and she was not looking for a husband, just a fuck buddy. I agreed with her and told her I was not looking for a life partner but just needed to start living again.
       
      As Friday approached, I began to get nervous about going to the party. I knew several of the couples that were going to be there because Dee and I had been with them for some time or another. Even the thought of fucking Sue, no matter how many times she and I had fucked each other, made me nervous. I stopped by Don and Sue’s house Thursday night after work and told them I did not think I could go thou with it. We were sitting at their bar, and Sue told me I was just nervous about meeting Nancy. She said that I already knew most of the couples that would be there and I just needed to relax.
       
      Sue then took my hand and told me to come with her. She walked me into the den in front of the couch and undid my pants, and pushed them down to my knees. She then told me to sit down and got on her knees in front of me. She reached into my underwear and started to stroke my dick. I could feel my dick responding to her soft touch when she said to just close my eyes and relax and enjoy. With that, she pulled my underwear down to my knees and started to lick my hard shaft and balls. When her tongue left my balls and started up my shaft, her left hand would start holding and roll my balls around oh so softly. As her tongue got to the head of my dick, her right hand would start to stroke my shaft. Her mouth opened, and she took the head of my dick in her mouth and swirled her tongue around it. I had almost forgotten how hot her mouth felt when she would suck my dick or how good she was at it. She knew just what she was doing and how to please a man with her tongue, mouth and hands.
       
      I opened my eyes to watch her head bob up and down and see my dick disappearing and reappearing from her mouth. I saw Don sitting at the bar, just watching his wife suck another man's dick. This was not the first time Don has seen his wife suck my dick, but in the past, he was with Dee or any of the other ladies in our little group. If not, he was most likely helping me with Sue, either licking her pussy or fucking her while she sucked my dick. But to watch him sitting there fully dressed while she was sucking me was a little strange and comforting at the same time. I realized just how good of friends they both were.
       
      I started to feel my climax grow deep down. I guess it had been a while, and I felt a rush of heat as I started to shoot my cum in Sue’s mouth. She sucked and stroked my shaft to get all she could out. I also forgot just how horny Sue got when she had a fresh load of cum shot in her mouth. She was humping my leg like a dog, and I could feel the heat of her pussy through both her pants and mine. As I tried to catch my breath, she looked up and asked if I was relaxed now. I told her that I was, and she said good, now go home and have a good night's sleep and they would see me at 6:30 Friday.
       
      Don started to protest that I could not come over and get his wife all hot and bothered and just leave him there alone to take care of her. Sue kissed me on the cheek and said yes, he can because he will need all his strength for when she and Nancy get a hold of me the next night.
       
      I stood up and redid my pants and told Don good luck, and as I was leaving, I heard Sue tell him to get his clothes off right now. She needed a good hard fuck.
       
      Friday came, and I arrived at Sue and Don’s house at 6:30 as planned. Nancy was not there yet, but Sue told me that we were not expected at the party until 8. Sue, Don, and I were sitting at their bar talking, and I asked where was this party we were going to and they said it was at a couple's house (Dan and Barbara) who they had met about 8 months ago. I did not know them, and I asked if they knew that I was coming, and without knowing me, were they ok with that. Sue told me that they knew and were fine with it, also that Robert and Cathy, and David and Joann would also be there, and that they all had vouched for me. Sue asked if I was still nervous, and I said yes I was.
       
      Meeting a lady for the first time, as a single, would make any man nervous, much less one you were going to a swinging house party with her as your date. Who would not be nervous? But knowing 3 couples that were going to be there helped somewhat. (Robert and Cathy were the first couple that Dee and I ever played with when we got into swinging, and David and Joann were part of the group that we got together with for about 3 years).
       
      Nancy arrived about 15 minutes later, looking stunning. She wore a low-cut gray blouse and a black skirt that stopped about halfway to her knees. Dark stockings and black high heels. She stood 5’7", about 135 lbs., and had legs to die for. Blonde hair, blue eyes, great smile, and very well-gifted up top. Her blouse was cut just right so that the mounds of her tits were showing down to the top of her nipples. She had an incredible tan line that went from a dark bronze color to almost show white ½" above her nipples. She was in her early 40’s, and I started to feel very nervous again. The four of us sat and talked until it was time to leave for the party, Sue ran and got her party bag, and we all loaded up in their SUV for the drive over. Nancy and I were going to sit in the back seat for the drive over, and as she was getting in, I saw she had on black garters that were holding up her stockings; with her low-cut blouse, I already knew she was bra-less, panty-less, well only time would tell.
       
      We arrived at the party, and I was introduced to Dan and Barbara. They are a nice-looking couple, early 40’s early 50’s, like most of the couples there. I saw that Robert and Cathy were already there, along with David and Joann. With a total of 10 couples there at the time, that made it 3 that I knew and 6 plus Nancy that I did not know. (I kept hearing Dee’s words; Mingle and meet, Mingle and meet over and over in my head).
       
      The party was going along like most house parties did, with people greeting one another, some snacks, some drinks, music, and dancing. Small groups standing around talking, a lot of flirting going on. As time went by, there were more people in different stages of undressed. A couple would be seen walking down the hall towards one of the bedrooms, more couples would be going out to enjoy the hot tub on the patio. Everyone was having a good time excluding myself. I had almost forgotten how at ease one could be and how much fun it was to be around people that thought of recreational sex the same as Dee and I did.
       
      (You see someone and you say, "I would like to fuck that person" They look at you and say, " I would like to fuck that person", and the two of you get together and fuck. Both enjoy it, and that is that. Your spouse knows about it and, most of the time, is there to enjoy it with you if not joining in. No jealousies ,no hard feelings, no fights, and most of all, no means no. But in the back of my mind, I kept thinking that I am now a single man in a couple’s lifestyle.)
       
      I was talking to a couple when I looked towards the area that had been set aside for dancing, where I saw Nancy, Joann, and Barbara all dancing together. All three had shed their blouses and were giving one hell of a sexy dance performance. I knew from what I could see from her low-cut blouse that Nancy had a nice set of tits, but to see her dancing topless they were great. They were round and firm with nipples that stood out ¾". At 43 years of age, they were more than likely bought, but real or Memorex, I did not care. I just wanted to suck on them. Her stomach was flat and firm and showed that she took care of herself at the gym. She still had her skirt on, but those long legs and that flat-toned stomach just started me to think how beautiful the meeting place must look.
       
      When the song ended, Nancy walked over to me and put her arms around my neck and kissed me. She looked me in the eyes and said, let's go. I want to have you alone first, and I had no problem with that. We walked down the hall and checked the first two bedrooms and found them occupied. The master bedroom was at the end of the hall, and when we opened the door, we saw Sue and Dan had already gotten there. We started to close the door, and Dan said to come on in. There was more than enough room on the bed; he and Sue only needed half of it.
       
      Nancy put her arms around my neck and kissed me, and whispered that she wanted me naked. At this point, she started to unbutton my shirt. I felt her firm breast pressing against my chest as I ran my hands down her sides. Her skirt had no snaps but was held up by the elastic waistband. It was just a matter of hooking my thumbs under the waistband and stretching it out a little so it would slide down her long legs. Just as I had suspected, she was panty-less. As she undid my pants, I cupped one of her tits in my hand and lowered my mouth to her nipple. My other hand found her wet hot pussy, and I started to finger fuck her with ease. Her hands had pushed my pants down to my knees, and she was stroking my swollen cock with both of her hands. I could hear her breathing getting heavier with each passing moment as I sucked her nipple and fingered her sweet wet hole. She looked me in the eye and pulled my head closer to hers for a long sexual kiss. She started slowly going down to her knees, all the while kissing my chest and stomach. When she reached my now rock-hard shaft, she cupped my balls and the base of my dick in both hands and opened her mouth to take its head into her mouth.
       
      As I stood there getting this magnificent blow-job from this woman, I looked over to the bed. Sue and Dan had moved to the sixty/nine position, and Sue was sucking his cock like she did mine the night before. Dan had his face buried between Sue’s legs, licking her sweet pussy for all its worth. He had his hands spreading it as far as he could to get his tongue in as deep as he could. I remembered just how good Sue’s pussy tasted when she would come, and she always came from a good licking. I wondered just how Nancy’s pussy would taste and did she enjoy it as much as Sue. It would not be much longer before I would find out because of the way she was sucking my dick and watching Sue and Dan, I started to unload in her mouth. My first squirt was deep inside her mouth; the second one she had pulled back but had her mouth open so that it landed in her mouth but mostly on the tongue. As she was swallowing the first two loads, the third hit her closed lips and started to run down her chin. She wiped it off with her finger and then cleaned her finger with her tongue. She stood up and looked me in the eye, and said thank you, we kissed deep and long, and then I told her it was my turn. As she landed down on the bed, I removed my shoes, socks, and pants. She was on her back naked except for her garters and stockings.
       
      I laded down beside her and started to kiss her gently on the neck; slowly, I worked my way down to her nipples, where I sucked and nibbled on each one of them. All the while, I was running my fingers in and out of her hot wet pussy. Her pussy was neatly shaved with just a puff of blond hair left above it. I have always preferred a little hair left instead of an all-shaved pussy, (I wondered if Sue had told her that and she shaved that way just for me). I was working my way down to her honey pot, and she was opening her legs for me. I normally like to work a woman by kissing, nibbling, and sucking on the inside of their legs before I dive into pussy licking. That always seemed to bring their tension up a notch, so when I did go for the gold, they were more than ready for it. With Nancy having her garters and stockings on, that kind of blocked that approach. I soon found out that she did not need that step of foreplay; I also found out that she was anything but a quiet climaxer. I had no sooner started licking, sucking, and nibbling her pussy than she started humping and screaming and cumming. She was begging me to fuck her right then, I needed a little more time to recoup from my climax before I could go on, and she didn’t seem to want to give it to me. I looked from between the legs, and I don’t know if Sue saw the whipped dog look in my eyes or if she was so turned on by Nancy's pleading for a hard fucking or what, but Sue came to my rescue once again.
       
      Sue was on top of Dan, and he was hammering away at her for all he was worth. Sue leaned over and started kissing Nancy and telling her to let it come. I was still down licking her pussy and thinking, "Let this climax run its course, and things will settle down till I recover and can produce again. With Sue's kissing and sucking Nancy's tits and Nancy sucking on Sue’s tits and a double effect. Dan announced that he was coming, and I felt myself coming back into the game. As I slid back up on Nancy to where I could enter her, Sue sat back up on Dan and started riding him hard. She was about to have her own climax and needed to concentrate on that. Just as I put the head of my dick to Nancy’s pussy she said NO, not this way; she pushed me off and got on her hands and knees and said do me from behind; I like it this way the best.
       
      I have no problem with doggie style, so I got behind her and guided the head of my dick into her pussy. I normally like to start slowly, but Nancy told me to do it hard and fast. So I jammed it into the hilt. She instantly started to rock back and forth, and it took a couple of seconds to get into her rhythm, but I got there and was on the in-stroke when she was rocking back and on the outstroke when she was going forward. Like I said before, you know when Nancy comes, everybody knows when Nancy comes, and it did not take long for her to come doggie style.
       
      After she came down from her climax, her body just went limp, and she sank onto the bed face down. Ok, I understand about fast climaxes; been there and done that a time or two myself, but this is the first time I had experienced it happening with the woman I was with. Normally it’s the man that has this happening. I lay down beside her and put my arm around he, and kissed her on her shoulder. I can hear and feel her breathing hard, but that is all the response I get. I look over and Sue is still riding Dan’s dick. I see that glazed-over look in her eyes, one that I have seen many times before, and I know that she won’t last much longer. Just then, I see Dan arch his back and drive into Sue as deep as he can go, his hands are pulling Sue down onto his shaft, and I know that he is releasing his load into her. Sue is wide-eyed and tells him Yes, give it to me, and I know from being there that she has also reached her climax. I lay there and watched her rock back and forth as Dan kept his back arched to give her as much dick as he could. I know the feeling of her pussy muscles on a dick, and I know what he is feeling at this moment. They are constricting and relaxing, constricting and relaxing as she rocks back and forth. Milking every bit of his juice out that they can. I watch as they slow down, and then Sue collapses onto Dan’s chest; she starts that silly giggle that lets you know that you did a good job.
       
      Sue rolled onto her back next to Nancy and looked at me, and asked if I was enjoying myself, and I told him yes. Dan said he needed a drink and asked if any of us wanted one. Sue wanted a margarita, Nancy wanted a glass of ice water, and I said I could use a beer. As Dan was off to get the drinks, the three of us sat up in the bed, the women sat cross-legged, and I just slid up between them and used the headboard as a backrest. I could smell the must of just fucked pussy in the air. There were two women sitting crossed-legged with their pussies open for all to see, and I still had a hard-on. Sue spoke first and said to Nancy, " Did I not tell you he was a good fuck or not" At that point, I could have crawled under the bed, except that Sue was now rubbing my hard dick. Nancy agreed and said that she can’t wait to go again. Sue said that the night was young, but Nancy would just have to wait her turn now because she was next. Thank god Dan showed up with the drinks.
       
      The four of us sat there talking and sipping our drinks. We could hear the party going on in the other part of the house with the music and the occasional orgasm from one of the partygoers or another. Sue asked if we knew where Don was, and Dan said he saw him with Joann, to which Sue said, "Well, he will be occupied for a while". All this time, Sue was stroking my hard cock, then she said that it looked like I was ready to go again, and so was she. Nancy asked her if we could all do it like they did it at the last party. Sue looked at me and then back at Nancy and said that she thought it would be all right. I must have had a questioning look on my face because Sue told me that I would defiantly like this.
       
      Sue had me sit on the side of the bed with my feet on the floor. She then turned around and straddled me backward. I felt her guide my dick into her pussy as she sat down on my lap. " As exciting as the unknown is when having sex with a new partner, it is just as exciting as being in the know and having sex with someone that you have been with before. You know just what they like, and they know what trips your button; Sue knew just what to do to trip my button." She started to rotate her hips to give my dick that just-right grinding. Feeling her slow humping up and down along with the rotation was driving me insane. About that time, I felt a tongue wrapping around my balls and work up my shaft to where I was buried into Sue’s wet box. I looked around Sue to see Nancy on her hands and knees licking not only my balls and dick but also Sue’s wet pussy, and Dan was behind Nancy just fucking away. Sue started to rotate and moan, which caused me to shove up harder; Nancy was licking and sucking faster, which made Sue moan and rotate faster. It was like a snowball rolling downhill. The more it went on, the faster it got. I don’t know what was going on with Dan, and I did not care. I know that I came harder and longer into Sue’s pussy than I can ever remember doing. I remember falling back onto the bed with Sue laying on top of me and still feeling a tongue licking the both of us, and then I heard a far-off scream that said fuck me fuck yes fuck me.
       
      Sue was pulling on my arms and telling me it was time that we rejoined the party. We walked down the hall naked and into the den. We went to the bar, and I sat down on one of the stools. Sue went and got us both a drink and stood between my legs with her arms around my neck. She asked me what I thought of Nancy, and I told her that she was definitely different than any woman that I knew. She said that there was a long story behind that and she would tell me later, but not tonight, I laid my head down between her breast, and she was holding me and rubbing the back of my head when Don came walking up to join us.
       
      Don sat down on a stool, and Sue went over and put her arms around him and asked if he was having fun; I said that he looked like he had been road hard and put up wet. To which he came back with a one-word answer. " Joann". Sue and I just laughed, and I asked if she was still a whirlwind in bed, and he said that she was a man killer if you let her.
      Sue kissed us both and said that we men better get used to the whirlwinds because they are going to rule the world someday.
       
      Note from Jay:
      I have tried to express some of my feelings, thoughts, and happenings into the stories about how I got back into swinging after Dee’s death. I know that it is not your typical swing stories that you are used to reading here. I know that I have brought up couples out of the blue for those that have not been on this site for very long. There are stories posted by " Jay and Dee" that tells how we got started in the swinging lifestyle, how we found out that Don and Sue were swingers, and stories that were milestones in Dee’s and my journey into this wonderful lifestyle.
       
      A lifestyle that I thought had ended with Dee's death. A lifestyle of freedom, pleasure, understanding, and pure joy that I thought I would never be a part of again if it were not for Sue. Some might read into these stories that I have an infatuation with Sue. That is not true. I love Sue. If you go back and read The Surprise, you will know that I have known Sue since we were in elementary school. Her older brother was my best friend until we graduated high school; now, her husband is my best friend.
       
      If it were not for Sue and Don standing by me and pulling me out of my depression, getting me back into not only the lifestyle but life itself did I meet Pam.
       
      Pam is another story all together
       
      I lost Dee in 2004, and the stories about how I got back into the swing happened in 2006. In future stories, I will try not to go back too far into the past, but sometimes my thoughts go there, to a time, a place, or a person that is so important to me that I must bring it up for the story context.
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