Don't grab my head!

If i’m sucking your cock - don’t grab my fucking head! We were with a couple last night that we have played with a few times. My husband and his wife really click so i’m in it for him. Her husband is gorgeous and is very proud of his impressive cock, but i’m not as smitten as he believes or wants me to be. Anyway - I play the game and honestly, he feels good. Anyway, I know he loves to feel dominant and i’m cool with that. I got on my knees in front of him and started to work my oral magic. Honestly, I’m not a fan of sucking big cocks but I know he loves it and I like getting him nice and hard before fucking. While he was comfortably inside my mouth, he gently but forcefully pulled me closer forcing me to deep throat his cock. I’m even okay with that, but on MY TERMS. I stood up and said “you’re fucking done - never again.” I got dressed and walked out and my husband followed shortly after. I felt bad because we were at a club in one of their rooms and I’m not one to create a scene but you know, fuck him. Big, small, thick, thin - boys, mind your manners!

I hear ya. My wife hates having her nipples touched, and it's amazing how many guys on meeting us will just reach over and give her nipple a vicious twist. That's it for that guy. Sheesh, find out what she likes first or at least start gentle.

Agree! If Mrs wants to take a cock deep, she'll do it ON HER TERMS. She would have had a very similar reaction Spruce.

On her terms is way more sexy anyway. I'll never get the appeal of forcing yourself onto a woman.

Feeling/seeing her want you, is hot!

Don't assume that if another person is into something, or even if most people like it, that everyone will.

And some things I like, I only like with some people. Until you really know, go gently.

I hate when a lover tries to fuck my mouth. Let me do the work on a pretty cock. The nipple thing is kind of good for me. I like a tug or light pinch on them when I am cumming

I’m an even harder case, sometimes I am more submissive and enjoy such, sometimes not. Poor guys, how are they supposed to know. If someone does it and I’m not in the mood, I just say, no, don’t.

Unfortunately this is becoming more of the norm. My GF loves getting facefucked by guys so it isn't a big deal for her but it is almost weird how it is kind of expected. I think I just posted in another thread that the two things she says guys will always try to force upon her are anal and facefucking. And I have noticed the whole facefucking and domination/humiliation rough sex thing is more common with the younger generation which could be related to a lot of the porn today.

Been there as well. My wife was giving head to a friend in a MFM as he was about to cum, she said nothing, he pulled her head in and blew his load in her mouth holding as she had to swallow. She was pissd... needles to say it did not happen again.

If i’m sucking your cock - don’t grab my fucking head! We were with a couple last night that we have played with a few times. My husband and his wife really click so i’m in it for him. Her husband is gorgeous and is very proud of his impressive cock, but i’m not as smitten as he believes or wants me to be. Anyway - I play the game and honestly, he feels good. Anyway, I know he loves to feel dominant and i’m cool with that. I got on my knees in front of him and started to work my oral magic. Honestly, I’m not a fan of sucking big cocks but I know he loves it and I like getting him nice and hard before fucking. While he was comfortably inside my mouth, he gently but forcefully pulled me closer forcing me to deep throat his cock. I’m even okay with that, but on MY TERMS. I stood up and said “you’re fucking done - never again.” I got dressed and walked out and my husband followed shortly after. I felt bad because we were at a club in one of their rooms and I’m not one to create a scene but you know, fuck him. Big, small, thick, thin - boys, mind your manners!

Unfortunately this is becoming more of the norm. My GF loves getting facefucked by guys so it isn't a big deal for her but it is almost weird how it is kind of expected. I think I just posted in another thread that the two things she says guys will always try to force upon her are anal and facefucking. And I have noticed the whole facefucking and domination/humiliation rough sex thing is more common with the younger generation which could be related to a lot of the porn today.

I'm not sure if I'd attribute it to porn entirely, but it's definitely true that younger guys are accustomed to women who expect to be handled roughly, to the point that they're disappointed if you don't.

As with everything else in swinging, communication is important.

I may be guilty of grabbing a head when I was about to cum. I haven’t heard a complaint and would apologize if I was wrong. On the other side I have had legs wrapped around my head and hands grab my head by women.

Pricks like this guy are why the missus wants nothing to do with dominant men!

Let the woman be in control of what she is doing down there and you are bond to get an amazing enthusiastic blowjob if your not an asshole.

Mrs Doc gives incredible head. The operative word is "gives"! The minute someone thinks he can start to skull fuck her it ceases to be something given and becomes something taken and no one takes anything from her sexually. Even if there is an apology after, the guy becomes an asshole in her mind and NEVER gets a 2nd chance.

My wife would not find this to be a good idea. I think the BJ would end at this point. We have both walked when treated inappropriately.

EastinWest - "I'm not sure if I'd attribute it to porn entirely, but it's definitely true that younger guys are accustomed to women who expect to be handled roughly, to the point that they're disappointed if you don't."

I find this concerning. I should say, that I totally believe in following a ladies lead. I thinks it's a matter of respect. Men need boundaries, we shouldn't be guessing so if we are ready to follow your lead then we need to be told, encouraged or shown how far we can go, so ladies speak up if you want something. I guess we're back to the hole three C's of sex/swinging: Communication, Communication and Communication.

Back to my original point. If EastinWest is correct, what is with that? After all the efforts and headway women have made in the world, to be equal, to be respected, to not be assaulted, the young generation is ok with being abused. And it is abuse. Why?

I'm totally confused.

Back to my original point. If EastinWest is correct, what is with that? After all the efforts and headway women have made in the world, to be equal, to be respected, to not be assaulted, the young generation is ok with being abused. And it is abuse. Why?

 

I'm totally confused.

Let me take one big step back and point out that consensual rough sex isn't abuse, although it can certainly cross a line. We're not talking about BDSM or leaving injuries, here.

In any case, I have no idea why it's the case, but as a (relatively) young member of this forum, that was my experience on the dating market and anecdotally, is a common experience. A lot of men in their 20s and 30s have had most of their experience with women who won't bother to try again with a guy they find sexually boring, and I absolutely believe it's usually women taking the lead on asking for that kind of stimulation. I've certainly had the experience of being with women who wanted something rougher than I was comfortable with, and also of being approached by women who wanted to cheat because they weren't getting that in their relationship.

I can absolutely see where some clueless guys interacting with women who aren't into that screw up badly, because they just assume that "this is what being good at sex is" and all women want the same thing. Personally, I'd never "grab" somebody's head without some signals from them, but facefucking is something I've not just done with most women I've been with, but been begged to do in a few cases.

Ironically, one woman recently told me that she likes it because of the progress you just mentioned: she's in charge all day at work and finds it relaxing to feel submissive and powerless - in a safe, temporary environment. I don't think that would explain most of it, though. Some of it, frankly, might just be some latent guilt about sex and the need to role-play someone else having control of the situation, even though that's not really what's happening.

Let me take one big step back and point out that consensual rough sex isn't abuse, although it can certainly cross a line. We're not talking about BDSM or leaving injuries, here.

 

In any case, I have no idea why it's the case, but as a (relatively) young member of this forum, that was my experience on the dating market and anecdotally, is a common experience. A lot of men in their 20s and 30s have had most of their experience with women who won't bother to try again with a guy they find sexually boring, and I absolutely believe it's usually women taking the lead on asking for that kind of stimulation. I've certainly had the experience of being with women who wanted something rougher than I was comfortable with, and also of being approached by women who wanted to cheat because they weren't getting that in their relationship.

 

I can absolutely see where some clueless guys interacting with women who aren't into that screw up badly, because they just assume that "this is what being good at sex is" and all women want the same thing. Personally, I'd never "grab" somebody's head without some signals from them, but facefucking is something I've not just done with most women I've been with, but been begged to do in a few cases.

 

Ironically, one woman recently told me that she likes it because of the progress you just mentioned: she's in charge all day at work and finds it relaxing to have everything taken out of her hands and be made to feel submissive and powerless - in a safe, temporary environment.

Yes I agree with all of this. I didn't mean to blame it entirely on porn either but I can't help but think it plays a role. And you're right that some women love this stuff. My GF LOVES getting facefucked. She likes being slapped, spit on, and degraded verbally and physically. I engage in some of this stuff with her but there are certain things that she likes that are too extreme for me. Fortunately there are plenty of guys out there who would get in line to do that kind of stuff to her.

Yes I agree with all of this. I didn't mean to blame it entirely on porn either but I can't help but think it plays a role. And you're right that some women love this stuff. My GF LOVES getting facefucked. She likes being slapped, spit on, and degraded verbally and physically. I engage in some of this stuff with her but there are certain things that she likes that are too extreme for me. Fortunately there are plenty of guys out there who would get in line to do that kind of stuff to her.

I think you're right that it plays a role, I just know men are more reliable consumers of porn and feel like women are the ones who are most insistent on this.

Pain, too, is subjective. Some women love getting their hair pulled forcefully, others get headaches. Some are turned off by any kind of nipple pain, others keep those little clamps in their nightstand because the stimulation is so closely linked to orgasm for them.

It's the dumb guys who meet one woman who really has a great time getting facefucked with nipple clamps on, and conclude that every woman will love it. They're apparently out there ruining the good times for everyone.

Sorry I didn’t mean to bite...

I think you're right that it plays a role, I just know men are more reliable consumers of porn and feel like women are the ones who are most insistent on this.

 

Pain, too, is subjective. Some women love getting their hair pulled forcefully, others get headaches. Some are turned off by any kind of nipple pain, others keep those little clamps in their nightstand because the stimulation is so closely linked to orgasm for them.

 

It's the dumb guys who meet one woman who really has a great time getting facefucked with nipple clamps on, and conclude that every woman will love it. They're apparently out there ruining the good times for everyone.

Pain is extremely subjective. My GF explained it to me that what would be considered pain outside of sex (face slapping, hair pulling etc) actually feels like pleasure during sex. That doesn't mean it's going to be the same for everyone but guys enjoy fucking her because she is so submissive and it makes them feel like they're starring in their own facial abuse scene and it's not something that a lot of other women, their GFs, wives, etc are willing to accommodate.

I have been known to hold a girl's head as she gives me head, but only to hold her head gently and run my fingers through her hair. I've also moved my cock in and out somewhat to give myself a little more stimulation if I'm being encouraged to cum in her mouth. To grab her head and stuff it down her throat uninvited? Yeesh! That would be way over the line.

I’m an even harder case, sometimes I am more submissive and enjoy such, sometimes not. Poor guys, how are they supposed to know.

It's really easy, actually. I just pay attention to what I'm doing and be observant.

I like my hair pulled when doing doggy. With one hand, the other holding my breast and gently flicking my nipple.

Maybe I'm totally wrong but I sometimes blame the PORN FILMS for things like that.

I think sometimes guys watch porn films, especially rough sex dominant types films where the women has 8 huge cocks rammed down the back of her throat until the point she is gagging and streaming in tears. That they watch 3 or 4 guys all giving this women super rough anal sex, watch them all lining up to cum in her mouth and kind of think.....

“Yeah that is what women want! That's what been dominant means!”

I mean this is what I see men do on porn films, so it must be okay right.

I agree with you Cliffy. We've noticed this particularly with younger couples and younger single males. I think porn and some of the lyrics included in the "music" and videos played at clubs and M&G's are both contributing factors to some of the treatment of women we've seen. It isn't my obligation to train young single guys in particular how to treat a woman sexually. I have an obligation to protect my wife from disrespectful and demeaning treatment. As a result, at clubs, I just chase them off, telling them simply, "Nope, NOT interested, move along". For that Ive been called an old fart, told we didn't belong there and told we were racist. Too bad. I will NOT watch some guy shove his dick far enough my wife throat that she gags and weeps. Nor will I allow someone to "wreck" her vagina. We actually had a guy at Trapeze tell us that was his intent while rubbing an obviously large member through his pants. That conversation didn't go well……for him!

On 1/18/2020 at 8:56 AM, Bluespruce1 said:

If i’m sucking your cock - don’t grab my fucking head! ...Big, small, thick, thin - boys, mind your manners!

Amen sister, preach!  I love sucking dick and I am good at it, and I can deep throught pretty good, if you grab my hair and try to fuck my face I lose to shit.  

My GF absolutely loves this shit.  Force it down her throat as hard as you can and push her head down and fuck her face as hard as possible.  Is she an anomaly?

1 hour ago, Anon321 said:

My GF absolutely loves this shit.  Force it down her throat as hard as you can and push her head down and fuck her face as hard as possible.  Is she an anomaly?

Yes, she sounds like a inanimate sex doll.  She is an anomaly.