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Every happily married WHITE couple needs to share their bed with a hung black man

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My wife and I are a HMWC and got into swinging 5 years ago. The primary reason was so she could experience other men. She had a burning desire to be other men as I was the only partner she had ever been intimate with.

 

Since was extremely timid in the beginning. She laid there so quiet that I was sure she was in pain or feeling humilated. She never experienced anything close to an orgasm. I was so sad for her that I wanted us to stop swinging.

 

As a matter of fact, on one occasion after her white male partner came for the 2nd time and my wife had not even let out a small moan of pleasure, I actually tried to stop the swinging from continuing because I just couldn't see my wife being a cum receptacle for other men!

 

Well, we were going to call it quits when she told me that she wanted to have sex with a black male before stopping because watching a black man and a white woman in some of the porno tapes we wold view was a turn on for her.

 

Did things change when my wife had her first experience with a black male? First, my wife is as white and fair skinned as you can imagine. Her nipples are pink she is so fair skinned. Yet she had this one request. So I honored it.

 

Her first black lover was very well endowed. When he got naked both she and I thought he was going to rip her in half with his HUGE manhood!

 

Instead, he was passionate, experienced, and extremely talented at pleasuring women, even really tight, white women. She felt stretched and it was very tight. But my wife orgasmed more than a half dozen times that night because he went where I had never gone before DEEP inside her!

 

Fast forward a few years and here we are in 2008. My wife will ONLY swing with very well endowed black men now. She has become extremely vocal, multi-orgasmic, very active in participating, and is VERY happy with her lifestyle choice.

 

She has decided to spend more time nurturing more of a monogamous relationship with her swing partners being exclusive to one partner until the time comes to move on to another partner where the monogamous relationship commences once again.

 

She tells me the gentleman she is with right now, I always am in the room with them, is the very best lover she has ever had. More importantly, she has developed a very strong emotional connection with him. Thay have been monogamous for over 3 years now. They use the word love quite often. They are open and honest about the fact that their sex has been elevated to love making. And they are proud of the passion and desire they share for each other.

 

Am I jealous? No! Has it affected our marriage? No! It has improved our sex life 1000% though! They f**k like wild animals in heat! That passion and lust has carried over into our bedroom. Was our sex boring before swinging? Yes! Is it boring now? No!

 

Am I afraid that my wife's love for her lover is coming at my expense? Absolutley not! This is the way she explains it to me...we have 3 children and even though each one is entirely different, she loves them each unequivocally. Plus, she loves her siblings, her parents, my parents and my siblings.

 

To love one additional person will not come at the xpense of anyone else receiving any less love. As a matter of fact, our marriage, friendship, sex, lust, passion and love for each other has never been better! Her friendship, sex, lust, passion, and love for her lover has never been better either!

 

She sees her lover, in our home, in our bed, with me present at least once every 2 weeks with goal of always trying to be together at least once per week. That fits perfectly into our schedule because we try to be intimate at least a couple times a week, and when the time, children, job pressures, etc. allow, even more frequently than that.

 

I wouldn't change anything. My wife has become a "size queen" for black male lovers. This is the very BEST thing that has happened to our marriage, and we have been married almost 20 years!! We hope the next 20 are as good as the past 5 have been because we don't see any problems and only see great things on the horizon!

 

And all this came from my quiet, shy, timid wife finally finding herself sexually and me, her husband, not being threatened by it, allowing her to explore her sexuality until she found what really pleased her. Now, a good marriage and good sexual relationship has turned into a great marriage and a great sexual relationship!

 

I would highly recommend every happily married white couple bring an experienced black male swinger into your bedroom for an experiment. As living examples we know you will be a much happier, more committed, deeper loving, and more sexually satisfied couple by trying this.

 

Go ahead, live a little! Your wife deserves the chance to grow and feel her body awaken so you can share those pleasures with her.

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This is the perfect description of the type of poly relationship that I would like us to develop although color doesn't matter to us. I have also used the analogy of loving multiple children to make the point that we have an unlimited capacity to love. To expand it beyond your primary partner does not mean you betray your primary partner any more than you betray your first born when you extend your love to the second.

 

My wife also has a fairly regular, secondary significant other that she sees separately. We met as couples but the lady didn't click with me (I really liked her) but he and my wife did. They consider themselves friends and the body language I have observed in the times I have been with them certainly indicates that is the case and I find it very heartwarmng.

 

The only thing I regret is that the lady did not respond to me as I had hoped she would as I believe this could have developed into a very satisfying poly relationship between us as couples. The more couples we meet the less confident I am that we will ever find a couple that will click with us both.

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I would also recommend that every couple, black or white, try a well hung German-Irish white male.
Fixed that for me.

 

:D

 

Thrax

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I have never been with a black man, but having plenty of black friends, male and female, I have seen and heard plenty to say with confidence that color does not equate into package size! It's a myth! I have seen all colors naked and in person, and the biggest was a mix of Hispanic and Italian! It's all about the genes. I was on the wrestling team in high school, and trust me, a guy can't hide anything in a unitard! I saw plenty then too, b-t-w, I always won... lol I don't understand why so many seemingly intelligent people keep spreading a myth as if it's a common cold??? I'm not trying to be mean, but come on people!!!

 

That would be like saying only German-Scandinavian women know how to screw!!!!

 

Which happens to be me....

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I have never been with a black man, but having plenty of black friends, male and female, I have seen and heard plenty to say with confidence that color does not equate into package size! It's a myth! I have seen all colors naked and in person, and the biggest was a mix of Hispanic and Italian!

 

According to condom producers the average size sold to Asia is 4 inches, 5 inches to Europe and 6 inches to Africa. Of course it´s a myth but sometimes myths agree with facts!

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Do you have a cite for this? Seems like it would be a waste of money to produce different lengths of condoms when, generally speaking, you just roll them out to the size you need.

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^6 inches in Africa? Well then my Irish American white husband is much bigger than that! How about you add 3, You claim--coming from a book written SOME YEARS AGO- that 6 is large? And that somehow proves that black men are better hung than others??? Good grief! Pick up your feet folks, the BS is getting deep in here! If 6 inches is large, than my husband and many other white men are much larger than at least the majority of men in Africa! B-t-w, Africa has a very wide diversity of races, it appears you do not know that. And if it's 6 inches in Africa--coming from the condom company- wait, if the condom company is doing so well there, why is AIDS everywhere? Why are a lot of black people of Africa dying of aids if they are the ones with big dicks buying condoms? Think about it! Why don't people think before they spit out stupidity? I suppose I should ignore my own eyesight because 6 inches is large? That is bs, sorry, but it screams cow patty. I would suggest paying for an AFF account and looking at the majority of pictures and videos, you will find that 6 inches is typically the smallest you will find.

 

Sorry for getting snippy, but this is bs!

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I refuse to argue with anyone who has obviously never taken a biology or anatomy course in college. This is very sad. Perhaps some men have a tiny penis, I hate that for you, but to claim it's because you are WHITE? Pitiful, really. Perhaps you should read truly credible sources before spreading this sort of garbage???

 

B-t-w, I also suppose you don't know very much about condoms and the fact that any company can claim to sell this or that, here or there, but lets see an unbiased third-party do research? Anybody can go and buy several packs of condoms, and then stretch each and every one over a 20 oz. water bottle!

 

Don't believe me? Try it!

 

Either way, I am finished dealing with these ignorant black/white posts!

 

I should mention that I happen to have a smaller vagina, and have no desire for the "moby dicks" of the swing world. But the whole subject of one race being larger than another, irritates the hell out of me. So I had to at least try to educate the ignorant. I guess some people see ignorance as bliss...

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The only single men we meet from online sites are black men, but it isn't for any of the reasons that the OP posted about. It isn't because they are better lovers, or because white men can't please me in bed, or because black men have bigger dicks, even though I do prefer very well endowed men. I have been with white men that were very well endowed and great in bed and I have been with black men that were also very well endowed, but sucked in bed.

 

The reason we choose to only meet black men from the online sites we are members of is a numbers thing. There are so many single men and it helps us thin the field. Because we have a very busy life our time to play is somewhat limited and we hate to have our play time wasted. When we first started in the lifestyle it was our experience that the black men in the lifestyle had a better understanding of the lifestyle and were more comfortable in the lifestyle then single white men. I'm not saying that is the case with all black men in the lifestyle, but it was our experience early on. We may miss out on some great white men because of this, but that's just the way it is for us. There are other reasons we are only interested in playing with black men we meet online, but it doesn't have anything to do with their sexual performance or the size of their dick.

 

Some people think we are racist because of our choice, but that isn't the case. We do play with single white men, we just don't use online sites to meet them.

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Only thing little old me has to add to this conversations is:

 

If any men, here haven't had sex with a BLACK woman, they really don't have a clue. Those big lips are very valuable, indeed.

 

It's funny you said that!!!! lol My husband is friends with a black lesbian at work, granted, I have never actually been attracted to black people in my life, but I would be with one if I ever felt that attraction..... I would be ALL OVER IT! ;) Sorry, I started rambling...

 

Anyway, this woman, I'm not attracted to her, but her lips, omg. She has beautiful lips. I actually had a dream about her lips...shhh...

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It is simply amazing how a topic can bring about callous excitement and rage in some folks. There's a superiority complex on both sides.

 

As a black man I've been stereotyped and while I do fit some of those stereotypes I do excel in areas outside the sexual arena. Bottom line is I'm a magnificently talented, charming individual with a vast knowledge of technical, social as well as scientific subjects. I just happen to be of color.

 

As for the black women, having had experiences with both black, white, Hispanic, and Asian, lips factor very little if at all with regards to fellatio. If you were to be blindfolded you couldn't tell the difference between a Nigerian female, Taiwanese, German or Honduran mouth. To believe such is just as shallow as the "Endowed Mandingo" theory.

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According to condom producers the average size sold to Asia is 4 inches, 5 inches to Europe and 6 inches to Africa. Of course it´s a myth but sometimes myths agree with facts!

 

I got this from a international distributor of condoms (don't ask).

 

Average sold for Asia is 49mm

Average everywhere else is 54mm

Largest sold which was 'large' for everywhere 60mm

 

From my readings the AVERAGE black penis is not significantly bigger than the average Caucasian but they do have more in the extra large category by 3-1.

 

So a truly massive dick is more likely to be a black man, but grab a black guy and a white guy on the street and it is a toss up. There are not enough exceptional sizes to really screw with the average.

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And all this came from my quiet, shy, timid wife finally finding herself sexually and me, her husband, not being threatened by it, allowing her to explore her sexuality until she found what really pleased her. Now, a good marriage and good sexual relationship has turned into a great marriage and a great sexual relationship!

 

Isn't this the most important part of the post?

 

For me it is.

 

Mrs. D

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As I first entered into the lifestyle with a girlfriend, it developed that she had a preference for black men. I never asked and she never explained why. It was enough that she was enjoying herself. Everyone has preferences and it serves no purpose to examine them for motive. What I observed is that they were all very taken with her. Perhaps that, more than ay other factor, brought about the preference. Could size have been an issue? Possibly. At one of the parties, she had sex with John Holmes, who set the standard for the day.

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As I first entered into the lifestyle with a girlfriend, it developed that she had a preference for black men. I never asked and she never explained why. It was enough that she was enjoying herself. Everyone has preferences and it serves no purpose to examine them for motive.
We certainly appreciate this attitude. Elsewhere on this forum, we attempted to examine various motives thinking it would make for an interesting discussion, but we couldn't do so without others taking personal offense. Ultimately, it doesn't matter whether one's motive is "justified" or not, as long as that person is content with the choice.

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If there is something the OP managed to prove about how sexuality get affected by the sexual organ size is:

 

1) The main sexual organ is the brain. For a "size queen" size doesn't matter, but the thought of the size. For those pursuing interracial encounters, the actual racial features doesn't matter, but the thought of the stereotyped features does. BTW, I don't know whether this guy's wife was a size queen or not, nor even if he actually has a wife to begin with. What's obvious from the post is that the OP is a "size queen" himself.

 

2) This guy has a HUGE brain. It seems to me he's spent way more time fantasizing of this whole thing than actually attempting to bring this fantasy to reality. But, it works for him... and for this tale to work for you, you actually doesn't need a wife nor a black lover. At most you need just one hand. :)

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ANY man with at least a 14" cock, repeat no shorter then 14", come over a give it to my wife every day so I don't have to any more. I am so tired of sleeping with my own wife. All she does is gripe that I never get her off and my 6.5"-7" cock is just way way way too small for her. SO please help me out, I thank you!! :rollseye::rollseye::rollseye:

 

BTW, if you took this seriously, then I bet you took the originator of the thread seriously too.

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Wow, some of the posts are getting pretty deep.

 

For the most part we see people as people.

 

As for dick size, admittedly a statistically small sample size, is all about the same. What is nearly universal is most males add about 1 to 1.5 in to their size. I must be the only person to round down?

 

The wife did express a preference for black females however.

 

One of our black female friends did bring up racial factors herself. She said she enjoys the aesthetic images of the very different skin tones. Apparently some people of either color do take color as a factor in various role playing, in every combination in every direction.

 

As initially said we would look at people as people, with personality, attitude, physical build as factors.

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The only single men we meet from online sites are black men, but it isn't for any of the reasons that the OP posted about. It isn't because they are better lovers, or because white men can't please me in bed, or because black men have bigger dicks, even though I do prefer very well endowed men. I have been with white men that were very well endowed and great in bed and I have been with black men that were also very well endowed, but sucked in bed.

 

The reason we choose to only meet black men from the online sites we are members of is a numbers thing. There are so many single men and it helps us thin the field. Because we have a very busy life our time to play is somewhat limited and we hate to have our play time wasted. When we first started in the lifestyle it was our experience that the black men in the lifestyle had a better understanding of the lifestyle and were more comfortable in the lifestyle then single white men. I'm not saying that is the case with all black men in the lifestyle, but it was our experience early on. We may miss out on some great white men because of this, but that's just the way it is for us. There are other reasons we are only interested in playing with black men we meet online, but it doesn't have anything to do with their sexual performance or the size of their dick.

 

Some people think we are racist because of our choice, but that isn't the case. We do play with single white men, we just don't use online sites to meet them.

 

Have to agree totally with there being good and bad in all races. One black man that we met once was VERY GOOD, fairly long, but not so big in girth. Lisa does not like large cocks since she is very tight and it can actually be painful for her at times.

 

Anyhow he could go and go and go kind of like the energizer bunny. One of the few men who has made Lisa squirt and gotten her very close to an orgasm. He was very much in control,...on top, doggie style, etc.

 

Black guy number 2 was younger, nice sized, and probably a big larger in girth than what she likes. We go back to the room. He leaves his shoes on, takes his pants down, and leaves his shirt on. Lays back on the bed, and never moves a muscle. Just lays there letting her do all the work. Even when she sits on his cock and fucks him he lays there...never touches, never responds, nothing....Oh well.

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We are sort of like the OP we only see black men and now recently we met what is close to Mr. perfect for us. He is a few years younger, lives close by, has a nice sized cock about 9+" and she and he seem to get along good. We are at an every other weekend deal now and I think after the holidays they may see each other alone some. And that's fine by me.

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If I ever do enter the LS, I think that every woman out there should experience a half Italian, slightly overweight, very average dicked 55 year old.

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It is simply amazing how a topic can bring about callous excitement and rage in some folks. There's a superiority complex on both sides.

 

As a black man I've been stereotyped and while I do fit some of those stereotypes I do excel in areas outside the sexual arena. Bottom line is I'm a magnificently talented, charming individual with a vast knowledge of technical, social as well as scientific subjects. I just happen to be of color.

 

As for the black women, having had experiences with both black, white, Hispanic, and Asian, lips factor very little if at all with regards to fellatio. If you were to be blindfolded you couldn't tell the difference between a Nigerian female, Taiwanese, German or Honduran mouth. To believe such is just as shallow as the "Endowed Mandingo" theory.

 

 

So far, this ^^, has been the most intelligent post in this thread.

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I can’t believe race play hasn’t entered the discussion yet?

 

For better or for worse, if you strictly adhere to the opposite race then then there is a fair amount of race play going on. Which is good or bad depending on the participants understanding and grasp of the situation.

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Wow just wow - pretty much everything about this post just makes me sick. Just can't stand any stereotypes. If you have been in the game you know there are endless exceptions. I fear the original poster's fetish goes beyond the size of his wife's partners cock.

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Reading your discussion here, I must tell you this. In 1974, my wife and I bought our first home on a dead end street with two homes on it ours and a nice forty year old single black man. My job required me to be gone a lot. We moved to another home on the other side of town in 1979. In 1981, my wife confessed to me she and he were having sex and slept together for those five years when I was gone. On weekends he had sports day. All his friends came over to his house and drank, had bbqs, ect. All black. She had gangbangs with them. In 1981 he told her he missed her and wanted to renew their fling and she admitted she had missed him too. I had told her I would like to see her with other men and so she asked if It would be ok. I said yes and now we are swingers. Since she has had sex with so many black men then and still having sex with them, and all race of men since we began swinging, I asked her if it was true black men have larger cocks. She said they are no different than white men or any other men on this earth. The only thing amazing to her about black is watching their black cocks any size, sliding in her white pussy and knowing that black cock is rubbing against her white insides. She loves seeing and feeling their black bodies against her white one. She said all men are the same in cock size and personality. They must know how to please her with that damn thing first no matter what size.

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Older Couple you nailed the color thing. And that's what it is-color not race ( wouldnt another race make it bestiality or extraterrestrial) My wife and I liked MFM 3somes,not Cuckold and wasn't even called Hotwife yet being no internet. Yes Im averagely endowed but wife has no size fetish so it was me who preferred larger but no shaming or humiliation was involved (or tolerated) We aren't racist,and I dont mean we have an obligatory noncaucasian friend, both very nonjudgemental just sort of post hippy freedom loving working class kids,married young and no kids for 4 yrs so plenty of us time. As mentioned above not all black guys have BBCs. Once the net took off it was easier to find FBs.I liked the drastic contrast of dark and pink so tended to line up black guys. Heres where the nonracism comes in. What began as Hotwifing became Cuckold and soon after came the white husbands begging to be shamed and/or sissified so of course black guys developed an "I own your pussy now" persona whether just role play or actual ego. My wife didn't react well to this,I figured it for a fad that would pass when reason kicked in. I'm not often wrong about human nature but this time I botched it badly,as any porn site will show you. Its amazing that at this insanely "race" divided time in society that the interracial sex craze has jumped by magnitudes. Again you don't get much less racist than me,learned more wisdom from older black guys than white actually and I was a kid during the late 60s civil "unrest", but thats my point- racism is racism. There is no reverse racism its ALL racism. If youre into humiliation or dominance fine! Call it that. Dont add to the smoldering powder keg or fuel the racists to hate even more. And for christ sake leave the majority of men with less than 7.5 inches ( yeah google it) out of the "sissy" category or I foresee alot of well hung ego hounds with wired jaws

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We like sexy people. The color of their skin or size of their cock makes zero difference to her on whether someone is attractive or not. People that sell themselves as a BBC will get ignored as much as people that sell themselves as BWC. We will leave the cock obsession for others out there.

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I would highly recommend every happily married white couple bring an experienced black male swinger into your bedroom for an experiment.

 

A person who is "colorblind" would not see this as an experiment because skin color would not be a criterion. Essentially, you are expressing a preference that is not much different than someone whose preference excludes black males, although your prefernce here seems to be practically a fetish, which I would say would be somewhat of a negative to a black male if it wasn't offset by the additional opportunities to play.

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What I find irritating me about the whole "black" thing is only that many white couples seem to be interested in doing it because it's taboo, up to the point that the fantasies often include rape or the woman not realizing what she's doing. The logic of it is obvious, that in that fantasy, she was doing something "wrong" but it's not her fault. Invariably, these posts turn into an elaborate cuckolding scenario.

 

Seeing people thought of that way is unpleasant. I'm sure Mrs. E would look great with a fat black dick in her mouth. I know I always thought the contrast was sexy when I used to hang out with a cute latina. If we ever try it, it won't require all of these psychological diversionary tactics to make it fun.

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I have but two data points, so don't extrapolate. The only black people I have/had sex with is Lora and her now ex-husband Walter. Walter was no better or worse than the other men, all white, with whom I have had sex. Lora, however, is the best sex partner I have ever had. My husband says the same thing. It makes me jealous, but at least we agree.

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