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    Quote Originally Posted by jmaybebi View Post
    . . . The clinic where I go around here operates on the 'we will call you if there is any problem' method, which is basically the same as all healthcare professionals I have ever dealt with. No news is good news.
    I too have wondered about this. When I donate blood, an HIV test is done but they never give a blue-ribbon sealed certificate. They do say they will call if a problem is discovered.
    When you come to a fork in the road, take it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmaybebi View Post
    Practical question - I read everywhere about 'sharing test results' and similar. It makes me curious, do most people actually receive physical results on paper?
    I have seen folks that found clinics who would give them printed test results-but you generally have to look for such a clinic. When I was in the SF Bay area, some clinics would specifically refuse to provide printed test results on the grounds people were forging these.

    AIM Healthcare Foundation used to host results on their web site-and you had to have a long URL to get in-which was their security. AIM got shut down and the ground they lost control of some private information of adult actors. However, LA Public Health was gunning for them a LONG time-there is a big taboo on the idea of sharing test results as a preventive measure in the USA-but not places like Cuba (which despite being a poor 3rd world country has a lower HIV rate than Puerto Rico right next door).

    Lots of folks just take others word for test results. The thing is: about 25% of folks that are HIV+ will lie about it to partners-and lots more will lie about whether they have in fact been tested. I think fewer will take the time to photoshop test documentation-but still that is too many.

    "serosorting" in the gay community typically means a guy asking another "are you clean" as a prelude to a sexual encounter. That is much of the reason it just doesn't work that well-that and folks really would need to test much more frequently than the 180 average for it to work at all well. Despite that, serosorting provides some measurable benefits according to the studies on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SW_PA_Couple View Post
    I too have wondered about this. When I donate blood, an HIV test is done but they never give a blue-ribbon sealed certificate. They do say they will call if a problem is discovered.
    I met a guy one time that said he'd take the male of potential swing couple partners to a blood clinic. They'd just put the others phone number down when they filled out paperwork-and do it in front of each other.

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    Default re: For those who don't use condoms

    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I met a guy one time that said he'd take the male of potential swing couple partners to a blood clinic. They'd just put the others phone number down when they filled out paperwork-and do it in front of each other.
    Now that is interesting.
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    Default re: For those who don't use condoms

    No one has ever asked for mine, but I just ask my OB/GYN for the results and she makes a copy.

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    This topic came up with some friends of ours a coupe weeks back. We always use condoms! But, we do know of a few groups that don't. We just steer clear of them. A few years back a few people tested positive for herpes and it started name blaming and bashing. Also have seen a couple of pregnancies pop up. We all know even with condoms, things can happen, but why make it more risky by not using condoms. My hubby and I get tested twice a year. Just got tested two weeks ago! Everything clean! Our primary care doctor doesn't judge, she just asked that we be careful and test often.

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    A few years back a few people tested positive for herpes and it started name blaming and bashing...
    I think a lot of folks have their heads in the sand on the issue of HSV. My own gut : if you swing long enough, there is a rather good chance you will get HSV-1 or HSV-2. The big thing is to be prepared to be VERY careful the next two years after you get it because it is 10 times as contagious during that period than afterwards.

    What I have seen: most folks don't test for HSV so they don't even know if they have it or not. For most folks HSV is just mildly annoying, but that 2 years after they get it, they are much more vulnerable per contact than folks that are HSV- or have been HSV+ over two years.

    I have NEVER had a potential partner offer to exchange HSV test results with me, but I have run into people who knew they were HSV-2 positive and were up front about it. The thing that is scary to me: nobody was informed by their doctors just how the infectivity tends to vary with time or how it is associated with vulnerability to other STD's.

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    That is why we like our primary care doctor. She says she never judges her patients as long as they are open and honest with her. We get the full panel of STD tests done. We pay out of pocket for it as our health insurance will not. But to us it's a few hundred dollars a couple times a year just for peace of mind. Yes we do know that condoms don't protect against some things. That is why we test and know what can happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I've known women in bad marriages that quite systematically made sure none of their children were their husbands-so that when the divorce came, there wouldn't be custody issues.
    Seriously? Multiple women? Are you joking?

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    Personally, I just don't worry about it. I'm 52 years old. I've been in the gangbang lifestyle since I was 17, and never use condoms. I've absorbed on the average 10 ejaculations every weekend for 35 years. A typical ejaculation discharges about 6 mL of semen. So my body has absorbed 35 X 52 X 10 X 6 = 110 liters (roughly 30 gallons) of semen. Aside from contracting Herpes when I was 16 (which I got from a monogamous boyfriend), I never caught anything. So, as I said, I just don't worry about it. I enjoy bareback intercourse, and I enjoy my life. And don't give me the trite "it's just a matter of time", because 35 years proves otherwise.

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    I had difficulty staying erect in a condom when I first started having sex with anonymous women and stopped using protection about 10 years ago. The only woman who scared me was a very thin lady in her 40's. I should have walked away but didn't. Fortunately, I stayed clean. I have to admit it's a major rush watching your spunk drip out of a strange woman's pussy

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    For what it's worth, I've racked up enough time living in Europe that I can no longer donate blood in the US any longer. The potential that I harbor the prion for TSE, otherwise known as mad cow disease, disqualifies me. Some people think of all the people they screwed, I count the burgers I ate in Britain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by couplers View Post
    . . . Some people think of all the people they screwed, I count the burgers I ate in Britain.
    Now there's a fact of which I was not aware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SW_PA_Couple View Post
    Now there's a fact of which I was not aware.
    I meant for lifestyle health risks, not in general.

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    I perfer bare i know my wife does but i leave it up to the woman its 50 50 with them.

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