SuenRon

I dunno, you guys...My husband does satisfy me sexually and emotionally (been married 31 years). Swinging to us is simply recreational. I don't think that a happy, well adjusted, committed couple really looks at swinging as a way to a more meaningful primary relationship. This sounds silly, but swinging is as much recreational as boating, or bowling, or anything else that you can do together. Dr. Phil is a pompous ass who happens to have a medium that reaches millions of people. Too bad he didn't take a cue from his mentor, Oprah, who actually did a pretty good job on the subject last year! ~Sue

I wish I'd seen this thread earlier, but I got distracted by going to Swingstock!! Mike, Ron and I completely agree with you. If someone wants to make trouble - they will. And the proprietary attitude of some club owners creates a non-positive community. We understand that not everyone is able to come out. In fact, most swingers are scared to death of being outed. However, there are people involved in the lifestyle who are going to bat for you. In addition, the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom is an advocacy group that exists solely because people like all of us support them. They are all about consensual sex and will help you if you experience a bust - either as a club owner or an individual. They can help you craft responses, letters, and more. (NCSFreedom - National Coalition for Sexual Freedom - NCSFreedom.org) There is always a buzz about one club or another getting raided. Most of the time, the rumors just aren't true. Just be sure you get the facts before you get scared.

Anyone that opens up their own club had better plan on putting their sex lives on hold for a while. It's a lot of work! Sue