Jwcalgary3

There is only one unambiguous way to measure, which is on top with a ruler pressed as far into your groin as it will go, aka bone pressed. You may not be able to use this full length depending on your fat padding but it is the only way to get a consistent reading for all men.

A woman undresses for a man for the first and worries about her size, shape, tone, cleanliness, etc. ... A man watches a woman undress for the first time and thinks “Boobs!!!” We males are simple creatures

This is a very interesting thread. My wife and I are only starting to discuss the lifestyle and flirt with possibility of going to a club. At this point it would only be to take in the atmosphere, people watch, and do our own thing in a private room, but knowing us and what we’ve discussed the next most likely scenario is to hook up with a single male. She has no interest in couples at this point and I’m ok with that. I could see this happening as a gradual step and maybe opportunistically at first....pretty sure she wouldn’t want to go to an explicit single men’s night right off the bat. I’ve been assuming that a Friday night where a limited number of vetted single men are allowed would be a good environment to test the waters. We go with our game plan being to play together but with options for her to test the other waters at her own pace. I’m a bit worried reading this thread that the guys might not take the initiative to get the ball rolling. She’s at the point where she’s not ready to dive in and do the pursuing - like she doesn’t want it to be her idea or fantasy too obviously. We think we’d enjoy a club regardless, but if our end goal is MFM or M watching MF are we better off looking for a partner directly online? Advice welcome

I should clarify that I (M) have no problem giving oral to the other woman, and love it. I like it in return but it’s not a must. The main concern is whether the other M would be unhappy not giving or receiving oral with my wife.

I like both if that helps :-)

She loves being touched and rubbed and foreplay lasts a reasonable amount of time. Her favourite is when I rub her clit then once in a while slip a finger or two into her deep, then repeat. Gasps and wetness galore. When I do go down on her she wants my fingers insider her. Basically she’s all about penetration and gspot. I just finished reading a thread on the first time seeing your wife penetrated and knowing how my wife is I can’t inagine how hot that will be.

My wife is not interested in oral sex. Blowjobs have become rarer over the years and only when I’m freshly showered. She’s never cared to receive oral - I can do it because I love it but it doesn’t do much for her. I’m pretty sure from past experience that it’s not my technique at fault. To her oral just delays what she wants which is a cock inside her. We haven’t played with another couple yet but I’m wondering how they would react if she just wanted to move to the main event right away. Would that be a turn off or disappointment or something you would just roll with? If she just wants you right away is that a turn on? On the other hand I don’t know how she would react in the heat of the moment, maybe she would surprise me

I have to add...today she went for a video shoot to promote a conference and got her hair and makeup done amazingly. She looked so beautiful and sexy I just want to do this even more if that makes sense

Thanks. I think she’d be ok if we actually went but getting past the stigma will take some work. She’s imagining creepy sweaty guys with comb-overs I think. I once read a good mainstream media article about a reporter’s visit to a club that made it sound very normal but I can’t seem to find it. I could point her to this site where everyone seems great but that’s like diving in the deep end.

We’ve talked about sharing on and off over the years - I have a recurring fantasy of watching her with someone else (yeah another one of those guys ) - but it’s always been a hard no in her part. That’s fine, it’s a fantasy, and I’m not pushing it. She’s not one to share her fantasies, she claims she doesn’t have any, but on a rare occasion she’ll drop a shocker on me - like where did that come from? The latest, more surprising than shocking, was about wanting to go to a club where there are sexy dancers to watch - “like a strip club?” I asked? “No, No just sexy not trashy - think gogo not stripper”. Ok, but she goes on and describes that the club also has private back rooms where the couple can get intimate with each other. “I think you just described a swingers club”. “Eww no, not that, just a place to dance sensually with each other then have sex” - “you can do exactly that at a swingers club, you don’t need to swing” - “hmmm....” Further discussions had mixed results depending on state of arousal but any mention of swinging is met with “eww, no!”. I know I shouldn’t be asking an Internet forum what my wife is thinking but can any of you relate to this (from either end) and offer any advice or thoughts? I know the main advice will to talk to her but I don’t want to press it hard or seem obsessed. Her philosophy with the kids is raise an issue or drop an idea then give them time to process and come around rather than force it and risk them shutting down. It usually works with her too...