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That's actually helpful. If someone with your disposition has been successful in the ls, we're going to be just fine.

Greatly appreciate the reply. Good point about title IX and empathy. Again, it's been what I have to educate on for years. And the ls community does seem to be more forgiving of certain violations (read: honest mistakes). So no real need for me to be worried about a lawsuit/arrest. Maybe a no thanks ranging up to face slap I guess. Thanks!

Ok, we're looking at newbie night. Thanks

For our next club event we have 4 choices to pick from. I'm curious if themes matter for us? This will be our second club/ls event. First was a learning experience but overall made many mistakes. But between the 2 clubs here are the 4 themes... 1. Newbie Night 2. Denim and Diamonds Night 3. Milf and Cougar in Net Night 4. Black Dress Night Again, we're looking to meet like-minded couples and have sex that night and/or at least develop a connection and trade info for further socialization. Are theme's largely ignored and insignificant or do they play a big role in what the population and event experience will be? The first club we went to last weekend was a DILF (Dude I'd Like to Fuck) contest. Complete waste of time that consisted of standing around for 2 hours watching a handful of guys dance and act goofy. Allowed little in the way of socialization and connection. Thanks!

What I'm taking away from that is that it's okay to start with the more innocent/surface level touching and then work up from there if the environment isn't friendly for verbal dialogue. Is that the general idea? If that is the case, I guess I just want to know how not to come off as creepy since I'm not well versed on those initial touches/caresses. Not to sound dorky, but I just never had to focus much on them. It always went from dialogue, very obvious mutual consent/desire, and then locking doors and busting furniture.

Running into difficulty finding something that would be flattering according to the size charts. She is a 42, 43, 46. We saw women at the club that were far larger and looked fine in what they wore. Neither one of us has shopped for club/ls wear for her before. Any help would be much appreciated!

I appreciate you sharing but I'd like to know if this is pretty much a standard that exists specifically in the ls that and no where else outside of it? If we're able to have some level of dialogue with the couple and they acknowledge that their communication is such that if one starts to play/touch/etc...both are good to go, I have no problem diving in. But otherwise that ground is too shaky to walk on just with assumption for support. Thanks.

No, I had one drink and didn't even finish it and instead switched to Coke because I felt fine and had a 2 hour drive ahead of me. She was the one that finished an entire 375ml of Vodka by herself. So on that level, I've thought the same as you.

Tonight I had a pretty important realization that I might need some help/advice when it comes to touching and initiation of getting physical. For those that didn't see the other thread about our first club/ls event this past weekend, it did not go well. While I didn't go into detail about it on my end, I didn't get much female attention. But what little attention I did get ended pretty quickly and I think it might have had something to do with my approach to initiation. Let me explain. My wife was hitting it off with the male half of the other couple but I was not getting any real vibes of desire from the female half. My wife told me to go make some moves. Soon after, the male half told me the same and pointed at her ass as she was bent over and he grabbed her ass and caressed her pussy under her dress. But in my mind, because she didn't express any interest and the years of experience I have teaching college kids about consent when it comes to sex, this was a massive no-no in my book so I balked at the situation and continued to get no attention. Then toward the end of the night, my wife and the guy (who had both been playing with each other throughout the night through/under clothes) told me to go give it another try. So I did. Started just by lightly brushing her arms, asked her if she was okay with it to which she replied "I wouldn't still be standing here otherwise", so I put my hands on her hips from behind and we started to grind ass to crotch. A few seconds later she walked back over to him and continued dancing. Game over. I would really appreciate some thoughts and advice on being a little smoother at 1) Expressing interest and 2) gaining consent to start touching if we're on the dance floor or some other place where some good dialogue isn't possible that would lead to a more natural progression that included expression of mutual interest, consent, etc... Thanks!

Got it! Makes sense why I might not heard of it. We're looking for same room play only right now. We did see a couple do different room play at the club in side by side rooms and it was really hot. However, we want to watch each other with other people and join each other for different combinations/arrangements. Thanks for clarifying!

Thanks, I'll pass it on to my wife. We are going for as revealing as possible without walking around with nips and vulva exposed...for now. And so far it looks like Yandy is going to accomplish that with the most options. But we're certainly open to all suggestions. Thanks!

I'm really glad you shared this and I want to share it with my wife. We're brand new to the LS as well and we've had a few couples significantly older than us but one in particular that reached out on SLS and has been trying to get together for drinks and see where things lead. It's good to see that such a large age gap still resulted in a great experience! Not sure what hall pass means though. Could you please clarify? Thanks for sharing!

$3 a pill for generic Viagra?? I have generic Viagra that is either made by Pfizer or in their facility right along side the name brand....and it was a little over a buck a pill for a bottle of 30 100mg tabs at Walmart ($40) with GoodRX...seriously look into it! It's as simple as click, print, and hand to the pharmacy. My insurance wanted to restrict me to 8 pills every month. I've only used half a pill in the last month (unfortunately) but it worked like a charm and let me go for 2 hours straight and that was just with my wife. Full confidence that I'll be able to go for 3-4 hours no problem. Well...only problem being we need to find a couple or two that want to play with us first. But ok...so at a club...wait and see if sex is even likely...THEN take it. So my wife was right. Thanks