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  • Birthday 03/15/1978

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    Couple/Single Male
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    Houston, TX.
  • Swinging Experience
    Only one so far but working out how to get further in.
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    01/15/16

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  1. I want to apologize for my candid nature. I do not sugar coat things very well to compensate for being people offended. There are some misunderstandings. 1. It is like a one night stand. I've never had a one night stand where I cared about the person. 2. We would NEVER do this to people in the LS! 3. The dating site is not a LS dating site. 4. We are not filming it! I'm just watching. We would never do that without permission. I didn't say anything about filming it. 5. We are new to this and trying to not have any bad experiences like all the ones we read on here. As part of our first experiences anyway. I guess I should have explained a little better. We were just looking for the community to steer us in the right direction. I will definitely choose my words more wisely if we ever post again. We always read on here. Guidance not judgement. We are not veterans. My apologies,
  2. Hello again, We just posted about our first experience in that forum topic. The other night we had... not a fight because we don't really do that but more of a heated exchange. So here's the story. My wife is very up and down but mostly up when it comes to being with another man in front of me. I know her and I know if I can get that first time out of the way then she'll be fine. She is very spontaneous, I am very... well not. I need a moment to wrap my head around things. So having learned this, I suggested we do a dating site. My ulterior motives were to start her talking to other guys on there starting on Weds and by Saturday she'd be so worked up that she'll say OK invite them over. Now here is the problem... I am emotionally ready in all aspects pertaining to us and her. What I am not ready for is my interaction with the guy. As I stated in our other post, I am extremely alpha. I don't want the guy to know. I'm getting ahead of myself. Let me back up and tell you my whole devious plan. She is single on the dating site and I don't want any mention of me. When she says OK invite them over, I will do it pretending to be her and tell them. "Want to come over and have drinks with my cousin and I?" In my head I'm thinking I can interact with them but disconnect from the alpha battle between us over my woman. Eventually they end up in the bedroom doing their thing and I'm watching from the other room on a camera that we have set up in there. I want to just focus on her and how I feel about what is going on. Not on the guy. If I can disconnect from the guy then I'll be able to do this... I think??? I don't know why I'm having this emotional battle about this but I am. I feel like he's going to be fucking her and thinking "Oh yeah, he can't do his job so I'm doing it for him." Then I'm going to not focus on what I want and instead want to go in there and show him why I'm the boss. That would be devastating to our pursuit of this LS. I know I can get past this part but for our first time I don't want any interference about how it makes me feel about us and the emotions that it might bring up. So now that you're up to speed, here where the problem lies. I explained this to her earlier in the evening and she knows my dominant personality and says she understands. She doesn't like it though. She wants to be able to love on me in front them and not disconnect. She wants to approach the dating site as I'm not single but my man wants to watch. Like I said, after I explained my feelings and why, she is fine with it and agrees to chat without telling them. As the night progresses she keeps pushing the issue and wanting to tell them the truth. Every time she does this, I get more frustrated. We end up in the bathroom taking a Jacuzzi while she is chatting. A girl messages her and I don't mind because she gets to tell her the truth about what we are doing, which makes her happy, which makes me happy. Then a very good looking guy messages her and she is chatting. All of a sudden he tells her he likes to watch and she loses her shit with excitement over "I can tell him the truth!" I lost it. I was fed up with her not caring about what I feel is my last emotional hang up. She says I don't want to lie to them. That sends me over the edge. In my mind, the singles are simply a toy, worthless for anything other than physical. Now when we start looking or talking to other couples, I won't feel that way about them. I don't want to deceive them at all. I'm just trying to get this first time out the way without any interference from an outside party. I feel if we can just get through this in my way a few times, it will help me get over my hangup of thinking the guy is trying to take dominance. We went to bed angry but still had great role playing sex. The next day we weren't angry but not 100%. Towards the end of the day I initiated the conversation and we made up. In the heat of the moment I took away all aspects of the LS and told her we would just stop all of it. This she did not like. LOL! I understand where I am wrong and admitted that to her but just like she has her things that she will not budge on, so do I. Am I not being fair? Do any of you have the same issue pertaining to the dominance struggle? Did it go away after doing this a few times and knowing what to expect? Keep in mind how we are different. She will say no no no then all of a sudden we'll be having drinks and she'll say ok, let's go to the bar and do this. I say no cause I need time to get emotionally prepared. Is she wrong for not accepting my request? I think her not wanting to have to disconnect from me is AMAZING and she made me promise that I will work on my hang up and I won't want it like this all the time. I really don't! I want to be able to hang out with the guy and have a good time with him whether I participate or just watch when it's time for business. I just feel as though we are more important for the first few times. Focusing on only her. Thanks,
  3. Hey all, First time posters. We have so many questions but I will post in the appropriate forums. Our background is we've talked about this since we first met. I was always interested but never had a partner that I felt comfortable enough to talk with about it. My wife definitely gave me the vibe she was approachable on the matter. We role played and discussed the lifestyle for a couple of years. We NEVER EVER discussed me with another woman. She wasn't having that.... unless we're in the moment. I'm fine with that because it's not my fantasy to be with another woman. We had been hot and heavy talking about this for about two weeks. I suggested going to the bar, spontaneously. She was taken aback but quickly got ready and off we went. She discussed the rules, she's the one with all the rules, on the way. I was more, "Meh, whatever happens we'll deal with it then." I honestly didn't expect anything to happen so I didn't care. She goes to the bar and orders for us while I go to the bathroom. We end up outside and she says,"Did you see the guy at bar? I flirted with him, he was cute." Oblivious to him, I had to go check it out. I came back and said,"HIM?!" I shouldn't have done that but it just wasn't anything I had pictured her going for so that was my instant reaction. We end up playing pool and I tell her to go get him and see if he wants to play with us.... play pool... get your minds out of the gutter folks. She brings him back along with a single lady that was sitting close to him. Yeah she's a bad ass. They were both there alone and we had met both of them while at the bar ordering. Now to the good stuff. The woman sat with me the whole time but nothing more. Now my wife and the guy on the other hand. My wife was all over him and reciprocated but he was turning her off because he was so worried about what I thought and what I was going to do to him. She told me about this and I said "Oh he'll be fine babe, if I was going to get upset then he would know it already." She proceeds and so does he with his hesitation. At this point my wife is fed up and with my inexperience I didn't know to go talk to him and calm him down. I had spoke and had conversations with him but not regarding the matter, my mistake. My wife eventually gets fed up and goes for the final step before she's done trying and that's the package check while making out. She wasn't impressed so she was instantly done. Now I know, I should have went and told him it was ok but I just figured he know that because I wasn't doing or saying anything negative to him about it. We are leaving and I did that... too late, she was done trying. Here's the twist. The girl that had been sitting with me all night was standing out there with us. My wife suggested we go home with her and she was down. I instantly am scared to death because this was a no... not a regular no no but a resounding NO NO! We follow her to her place and sit on the patio. My wife is telling her what to do. She made her stick her hands up my shorts and hold my cock. Mind you, I'm still scared to death and can't get past a chub. My wife corrals us up to her bedroom and we all get on the bed. My wife takes off my clothes and they both are on my dick. I'm kissing both of them and I'm in heaven when I look down and they're both taking turns with my package. The woman has a vibrator and we do that for awhile but my wife wants to get fucked so I fuck her missionary and the other woman is laying next to us. I'm having sex with my wife but I'm holding the other woman's head and we are face to face. She starts talking to my wife and I, telling me to make her squirt. I know it's not going to happen because again, can't get past a solid chub. That sends my wife over the top and she cums (not a squirting orgasm). She gets up immediately to clean up. This is just what she does. No cuddling or any of that until she cleans up. Well I stay in the bed with the other woman and she puts her head on my shoulder and snuggles up to me. Me, being way uncomfortable, am none the wiser and I accept. My wife comes out of the bathroom and gives me "the look". I instantly jump up, so fast it almost sends the woman flying off the bed. My reaction to just a split second look saved my ass there. I feel like my wife self sabotaged this because we very rarely talk about another woman. I started this and my fantasy is to see her with another man. We both want to end up fully immersed in the LS but are trying to take it one step at a time. I feel like I'm ready to see her with someone else. The LS turns her on but seeing me with another woman is hard for her to swallow at this point. We are glad to be here and look forward to all the wonderful advice we see given. Sincerely,
  4. Have you considered security cams? My wife and I have discussed this. Find a couple, set it up, change the password before starting, and change it back when you're done. We have an Arlo Pro and we use it for each other to sometimes sneak a peak at what the other is doing. Sometimes it's a nice surprise. The quality is good, night vision, two way voice. Maybe this is unrealistic, we're novices still. Good luck!
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