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  1. Personally, wouldn't try it, and wife wouldn't want me to. Have, however, massaged her breasts down rubbing in two sticky loads before sending her off to the shower.
  2. Even I can't keep up with all the acronyms the kids are using these days and I'm not old enough to say things like that. (Oh no, oh no. I guess I am.)
  3. The way I remember it, we moved pretty slowly. Our first experience was soft swap with two other couples, then full swap with the couple we knew well the following evening. That was really where her comfort zone was, familiarity, and we met up with them a few times before we branched out, I want to say a summer or two later. That was the first time Mrs. E got the nerve up to engage with a flirty stranger on vacation.
  4. Old joke: how do you get to Carnegie Hall? I've talked about this on here before, but when Mrs. E and I first met, she was actually pretty reluctant to give head. Sometimes it would happen in the course of third dates, etc., but she felt it was extremely intimate and a little too scandalous to do casually. I was from a very different background where I was used to women giving head casually to put off intercourse. The funny part is, she gives amazing head. When we started talking about exploring with others, one of my biggest fantasies was seeing her suck cock, and she was open to it but struggled with the idea of finding a third comfortable to try it on. As we got started, whenever she'd get a little anxious about boundaries around trying specific sex acts, what I'd think of her, if it was too much too fast, my go-to was "it's just cum". You've picked somebody you're comfortable hugging, comfortable kissing and exchanging saliva with, comfortable having your nipples stimulated by, comfortable stimulating their penis. Ejaculation is what men's bodies do. Sure, we reserve cumming inside her for us as an intimate act, but the fluid itself is just another thing that gets spread around during play and it's not a big deal. We've both evolved a long way about sex and bodies through experimentation. She's at the point where she just wants to know her hair is out of the way and there's a towel and a shower, she's putting on a show with her body and comfortable in her skin - which she really should be. She doesn't think twice about semen anymore, and she knows I'm sincere about loving the theater around it and don't think less of her. The punchline: Practice, practice, practice.
  5. iOld thread, but for the record, 5mg daily use Cialis is extremely cheap through Amazon Pharmacy. 5mg the day before and 5mg the day of is a very effective insurance policy to make sure you can perform under pressure and probably do it again. Interestingly, I was recently diagnosed with an early-stage and reversible condition that is generally associated with hypertension, despite not being hypertensive. However, it runs in my family, so I've been doing a lot of research into heading that off. It turns out that unless you have a kidney problem, it's generally recommended not to simply reduce your sodium, but to eat 2-3x as much potassium as sodium, because potassium is very beneficial in helping your body counterweight your sodium. Americans generally get the opposite, hence the epidemic levels of hypertension. With the Cronometer app, I've found it very easy to identify some of the worst offenders of my sodium intake and to improve my potassium intake with a daily banana and/or a cup of coconut water along with the usual good choices of greens, etc. 3x is a very hard target to hit if you eat any processed/restaurant food whatsoever, but 2x is very achievable. Notably, there's a dose-response relationship between weight and blood pressure, and controlling the sodium intake has made it a lot easier to eat at a calorie deficit. That last ten pounds I wanted to lose to hit my goal melted off over the summer and I've been getting positive feedback on my arms looking more "cut".
  6. Not into cuckolding specifically, and we aren't strict about it, but we have had a loose "two county"/fifty-mile/hour's drive rule for meeting new play friends. We've risked local gossip before, but the towns here are small and interwoven enough that even thirty minutes means a pretty good chance of being seen out by someone you know.
  7. Obviously wise to be careful with personal info, etc., but I don't think it's as uncommon as you're envisioning. A lot of people have preferences that shift quite a bit when it's "just sex" and there's little risk of anybody finding out and it impacting their perception in their circle of friends/family. Mrs. E's first husband was 10ish years older. I'm almost 15 years younger. The couples we've played with were similar in age to her, but she gravitates toward grad students in their 20s for random fun. Now I'm around 40 and it's not at all unusual to get a 20-25 year old off Tinder who wants to suck-and-fuck an older man, or a 50-year-old woman on business with a boyfriend who wants a video of her getting a facial from a younger guy. Don't read too much into this. People have their reasons. If you seem to like each other, enjoy.
  8. Soft swap, same room. Have told this story many times - practically liveblogged it here out of excitement, actually - but we'd started out kicking around the idea of MFM so I could watch her perform oral. We had different ideas about how to find a partner for that, until one day she had reconnected with an old friend and learned that her and her ex-husband, who were still intimate, were actively swapping. We lined it up with a trip to Las Vegas to join them at their house with another couple for a dusk pool party. I knew well enough to take a precautionary Cialis and talk through our limitations before we got there. Mrs. E knew the ex-husband had always had it bad for her and the delight at finally getting his hands on her body was palpable. Eventually she was crouched down on all fours with her swimsuit top off and her hair up, bobbing away, her friend and the third husband were in the hot tub on the other end, and the third wife sat down next to me and went down on me, too. I remember thinking it was kind of a motion sickness feeling like the rising part of a roller coaster, knowing I could stop it but having no desire to do so, more afraid she would get cold feet before he came than anything else. She didn't. In fact, he erupted hard enough and she was dazed enough that she didn't realize she'd spilled cum on her chin and neck when she got up and walked over to me, kind of in disbelief at what was going on. When she sat down to join in, that nearly pushed me over the edge and I had to stop for a beer - and a towel for my wife - and I eventually ended up finishing with the other wife with Mrs. E kissing my neck. We took a quick shower when everybody went inside and took a minute to connect, and agreed that we liked what we'd done and didn't feel strange about it. There was another round of play that evening, she went down on the other husband on the couch while I screwed her from behind. It went smoothly enough that we were ready for full swap with her friend and the ex-husband the very next night. I hadn't really planned it. We'd agreed that we wanted to try it, she pitched her friend in the lady's room, then they pitched us on it at the table of the lounge. We ended up in our hotel room at the old Hard Rock, Mrs. E bent over the opposite side of the bed while I did her friend from behind. They held hands and made a lot of eye contact, both with each other and with us. Was both the first time I'd put on a condom and the first time Mrs. E had been penetrated with one in years.
  9. Whatever the facts here, it's just my anecdotal experience that that "moving target" feeling often indicates someone has lost hope for the relationship and is generating rapid-fire complaints in the hopes of ending it without having to be the villain and pull the trigger. If she feels that way, however, it doesn't mean it's over. Get thee to sex-positive couples' counseling.
  10. Yep. The factual allegations are described in explicitly vanilla terms. Breakups, rocky marriages, love triangles, controlling behavior. The implication appears to be that Momeni may have murdered him for involving his married sister in something he considered disgraceful, yet it is also claimed that Momeni himself was involved in whatever they believe "the lifestyle" to be, and that he frequently attended parties with his sister and was jealous of her social acceptance. All very strange. Unless the implication is that he was directly participating in his sister's sex life, it seems pretty clear they're just hyping upscale vanilla social circles as something else and his sister brought her awkward weirdo brother along because she felt bad for him.
  11. Absolutely, and the article is quite weird about it. They acknowledge the "narrowly focused" meaning of "the lifestyle" used by "some" in vague terms ("people who might engage in various sexual activities with different partners"), and even quote one interviewee in Lee's love life who denies having ever heard of the term, but hurtle on anyway. What slays me is that the article reads lke a weeknight after a concrete manufacturing trade show in Vegas, but reports on it as a glimpse into a dark and secretive world. A cynic might conclude the reporters don't have much of a social life if this is all new to them. It's only at the end of the article that it spells out that the murder appears to be as simple as Momeni being a social misfit with violent emotional problems who had a grudge against Lee for dating his ex, then his married sister, reportedy estranged from her husband. Everything else is fluff.
  12. https://www.wsj.com/articles/bob-lee-stabbing-sex-drugs-lifestyle-san-francisco-5a7da970 Sort of baffled by this WSJ article about the murder of executive Bob Lee, which conflates drug-fueled raves, swinging, and completely ordinary and mundane casual relationships, breathlessly describing the existence of an underground drug-fueled party scene which contains a lot of "swingers, cheaters, and liars", but acknowledges that there is "an understanding of consent and boundaries” and that "if someone gets drunk and handsy, 'they get excommunicated very quickly.'" While I can see a journalist encountering specifics around swinging for the first time, they seem, at a basic level, absolutely floored and scandalized by routine vanilla partying like any college kid might get into summering in Barcelona: experimenting with party drugs, dancing all night, screwing people they don't know very well. Not sure the reporters get out very much.
  13. I agree with this very much, but when I read OP's post, it's really not clear to me if the wife believed she was changing the rules. Was her thought process "he *will* also have sex with her, too, because that's how this works" and he simply didn't communicate that this wasn't going to work?
  14. This is an activity which involves human bodies. They don't always perform exactly the way we'd like to, and 4-way matches are not as widespread as we might all wish. Mistakes frequently come about from bending the rules on the spot, but I'm not 100% sure what mistake she made. What if the situation were reversed and you started having sex and then the other male couldn't perform? Would your wife let you finish and be happy you enjoyed? She asked for permission, you gave it, and you didn't veto any of what was going on. Your reaction was understandable, but also, being "disappointed with myself" for what? Your wife didn't have a bad experience. Everything is basically fine. This will happen again on both sides and now you've run into it and know you didn't enjoy.
  15. The submissive I work with is sort of a "switch". We have a dom/sub relationship in which I am always in the dom role, but she also likes to dominate and "milk" men. We reconcile this by me occasionally sending her "hunting" at hotel bars, etc. One time she found a suitable partner in Manhattan, and it turned out he was an armpit guy. Very normal, professional, and she jacked his soul out through his cock, but he just had a need to stuff his nose in her armpits and practically snort it like cocaine. Surprised the hell out of her.
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