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Lascivious L&L

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About Lascivious L&L

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  • Birthday 08/16/1950

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    Couple
  • Location
    Northern Vermont
  • Interests
    Many and varied
  • Occupation
    Self employed construction
  • Swinging Experience
    Since my early twenties
  • Anniversary
    August 13

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    DandJforplay

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  1. The term is not understood by everyone, that's the whole point. If you read this entire thread, it's clear different people have different meanings for the term bi. It is probably one of the least understood sexual terms, though it has plenty of competition in not well understood sexual terms. So if there are many different meanings for this term bi, why not pay attention to what the person says they mean by bi rather than telling us what everyone SHOULD mean by bi???
  2. What I find sad and quite irritating is someone trying to tell me whether I am bi or not. If you have the belief that if I suck cock I'm bi, that's your belief, not mine. Don't impose your belief on me. If I believe I'm straight, that's my belief, not yours. I'm the one who writes my profile, not you. If you read this thread there are those who feel you have to be able to consider a relationship with the same sex as well as the opposite sex in order to actually be bi. There is some merit to that argument. We label ourselves both as bi mainly because we want to eliminate homophobes quickly. I think of my self as omnisexual, which could be shortened simply to sexual. Those people who can enjoy sexual pleasures with only the opposite sex OR the same sex might more accurately be labeled partially sexual.
  3. The best birth control method in my book is vasectomy. I've had one, best decision I've ever made and the best $400 I ever spent. A bit more expensive now. Once you're past the wanting more children stage, it's the cheapest completely effective method of birth control. I say completely effective because you can monitor its effectiveness yourself without going and getting tested. All it requires is a microscope on low power. It's amazing to watch those little wigglers and easy to monitor their absence. Condoms are effective for Chlamydia, Gonorrhea and HIV, in the 85% range discussed above. Condoms are much less effective for herpes or HPV. In the older crowd, 50 and up, bareback is very popular and common. Some have said that going bareback is playing Russian roulette. Using condoms does reduces the roulette, but only down to 15% of your play. Call it semi-Russian roulette. The chances of being exposed to herpes and HPV are virtually certain even with condoms if you familiarize yourself with the stats. Doesn't mean you will become infected. Chlamydia, Gonorrhea are treatable and rare, at least in our older age group. Each person has to assess their comfort with risk. Safer sex (condoms) only reduces the risk of some STD's, doesn't eliminate the risk.
  4. The best thing for quick, thorough, efficient cleaning is a device called the Bio Bidet. It goes on your toilet bowl under the toilet seat and offers the functions of a bidet for $79. I recommend the BB 270 although there are fancier and more expensive ones. It cleans both your butt and crotch with warm water very quickly. There are so many times when a quick private parts cleaning is the perfect solution that I'm surprised most swingers don't have one. And no, I'm not a salesman for them or get a commission. I just love it.
  5. Here I have to put in a plug for the toilet bowl bidet, called the Bio Bidet. It fits under your toilet bowl cover and gives you real bidet functions that clean your butt and crotch easily and effectively. The model we have, the BB 270, is currently $79, a far cry from what a real bidet costs yet is just as effective. For those who swing it's not a luxury, but nearly a necessity. For us it's every day, cleans your butt far better than toilet paper. For sex, it's the perfect solution when you don't want to take a full shower and just want to clean your crotch. Bio Bidet also offers much more expensive versions, ones with a heated water supply, slow closing lid, and dual nozzles. Very nice, but for a fraction of the price you can get the BB 270, which does hook up to your hot and cold water, giving you a mix of perfectly warm water. The only difference is you have to run the bypass valve until the hot water reaches the device. Pretty simple.
  6. First question, "What is normal?" Is swinging normal? Normal is a judgment word. Average might be better since it's a mathmatical word. Pleasure, desire, power and control are part of heterosexual encounters also. Becoming fixated on a particular pleasure is more a fetish than an addiction. You do sound as if addiction played a part in your experience if you feel that giving head was like heroin. Never did heroin but have been prescribed oxycotin for pain. Didn't like it one bit and would never compare it to sex. More like non-sex, down, uncrisp, not up. Each person has a different reaction to drugs, but my experience is that downers are down and sex is up. Loving a cock in your mouth is exciting both for the pleasure and for the relief from all the bullshit about being bi or gay. It's sex, it's pleasure, AND it's not what we were led to believe with all the putdowns and hangups about it. There's a feeling of growing up and out of something nasty, the bigotry toward male/male sex.
  7. I'm 64 and have had problems getting erections and keeping them. This past year I had two major accidents, the first breaking my hip. It required two hospitalizations and finally a hip replacement. Then after healing and getting back into physical shape I fell and broke seven ribs, my collar bone, punctured one lung and had an embolism. Eight days in the hospital, but no surgery. Not being able to breathe properly really takes you down. I've recovered from that and consider myself back in shape. After each hospitalization it took some time to get an erection, a week the first, weeks the second time. My head really got in the way and can still. Physically Viagra helps wonderfully. I don't use it all the time, but it is nice to have a night I can go two rounds with my wife and a lover and have that teenaged cock back. But if my head is not in the right place, Viagra is wasted, doesn't do a thing. For me that happens about a third of the time and is very frustrating. I can generally masturbate well yet there are times I just can't get it up. I can always inspire orgasms within my wife using my lips and tongue, which I love equally as well as intercourse. Yet you want what you have less of, so intercourse looms large. It can come down to acceptance, accepting the limitations of age and health. I find when I'm in an accepting and positive frame of mind I have much better erections, with or without Viagra. My wife has her lover and I have mine. Hers is twenty years younger and can fuck forever and make her cum many times. I love that at the same time it can be so challenging. But don't feel sorry for me, my lover is twenty years younger and very accepting of my limitations. She can get me hard much of the time, even if I can't stay hard. It's enough to inspire her orgasms. We often play all four, but our lovers don't play even though my wife and I would love to see it. They massage, hug, and touch, but nothing more. The best way to get in a nice frame of mind? Just this past weekend the three of them massaged me, got me hard, and my wife climbed aboard. Wow, did I cum! Our lovers love to watch and got quite a show. Then my wife's lover climbed on my wife so that my lover got to watch while I touched her. She is quite a voyeur. By the time we got to bed, she was wet and climbed on top of me, had her orgasm, then I climbed on her and came hard again. That really helps iron out the frustration!
  8. Earlier in this thread there was a question on the sensation after swallowing cum, called numb or tingling. Cum tends to be alkaline (as opposed to acid) much like mints can be alkaline. That feeling comes from the change in your mouth and throat's PH as a result of the cum. I feel a similar but often stronger tingle after eating mint such as chocolate covered mints. Pussies tend to be slightly acid, so the mixture of cum and pussy juice is a perfect balance.
  9. My wife always wanted me to suck cock. This was one of those times it just happened. Not orgasm, but it arouses her mightily. The orgasms cum from oral attention or a good fuck.
  10. "Craigs List is now!" Yes that's the whole point of CL, it's now and it's visited by a whole segment of people who wouldn't go to a swingers site because they aren't there yet. Swingers sites have search, CL is raw data. You need to read what is written, then read between the lines. It takes a while to get the posts that may have reality behind it, and the ones that are fantasy. I've even posted erotic poetry there, because I can. We've met a few good people on CL and have had to wade through stroke fantasies that ejaculate with posting. Did post one that brought in over 300 responses over the course of three weeks. Yes, I know what entices men. And have several promising meetings set up. We get the same sort of responses on AFF that we do from CL, the many short "I want..." and the very few ones worthy of an answer. CL does pull in a fair number of responses you'll never see on a swingers site. Occasionally there will even be a decent one.
  11. I'd actually sucked cock with my first wife, yet it hadn't seemed the tipping point. That came with my second wife swinging with another couple. They were mainly oral as we weren't allowed to penetrate them. We were all sitting on a couch. His wife started sucking me as I sat and he stood up so my wife could suck him. I was right next to her, watching intently. My wife made a point of showing me what she was doing, and then gently offered his cock to me. I took it in my mouth and experienced an aha moment. It felt different than it had before, more sexual than ever, very sexually energetic. Because his wife was very good at sucking, I followed her lead and sucked him as she sucked me. We became linked in a way I hadn't experienced, sexually, spiritually linked. My wife's eyes were wide watching. It was as if we were a threesome, his wife, he, and me, in a sexually profound and spiritual way. Not religious spiritual, but physically-spiritually linked. I bonded with her as I was doing to him what she was doing to me. It was a totally in body experience. When he reached that edge I could sense it...I was there also. When he spurted I spurted. It was as if his cum flowed through me, became my cum, and on into her. He and I came as one with her totally linked. I was high without any drugs, as high as I've ever experienced. It totally changed my feeling toward men, realizing the sexuality of men, of sucking men, of doing anything sexual with a man. I can kiss a man where before it was difficult. I love the sexual energy of sucking, gets me high with sexual energy. I can appreciate women in a new way since I have a new perspective of sexuality that includes males. Female sexuality, male sexuality, different, similar, linked. I am so happy I experienced this half of potential sexuality. And my wife loves it. I think she may have had an orgasm just watching us.
  12. I have always found it curious that the position of giving oral sex is considered the more submissive. For me it can be either and usually find it dominant to be sucking. The man being sucked is completely under your control, if you suck at all well. He is the one that loses control and cums to your ministrations. Yes, guys can get aggressive and fuck your mouth, which can be a turn-on or turn-off. If I'm not into being fucked in the mouth at the moment, the guy trying quickly gets the message that the sucker is truly dominant. The most submissive I've ever felt was in a DP with my wife. I was on the bottom in my wife's pussy with her facing me and the other guy in her ass. It felt completely as if he were fucking both of us. I didn't move, yet I could not help cumming quickly from the delicious feeling of him rubbing against my cock, fucking me. Have never tried anal sex with a man because it would have to be the right one whether I was fucking or being fucked. I would like to explore both, the dominant and the submissive. Both are exploring sex and there is so much to explore.
  13. If you swing without being immune to the situation presented, why should we feel badly? As a man, I love to cum inside women, I'm not a fan of condoms. Yet assuming she's using protection is no good. Relying on her to use protection is abdicating responsibility. Taking anyone's word for protection is gambling. There is a simple way for men to be in control of their sperm while ejaculating inside women when the opportunity presents. It's called a vasectomy, it's not expensive, and anyone can insure it's fail safe. How? By checking your ejaculate under a microscope once a year or so. Simple to do. I think the ethical and safe course is making sure I can't impregnate anyone. Yet I can still have fun.
  14. For me also DP was one of the most erotic and pleasurable orgasms. I was on my back and she facing me on top on her knees, me in her pussy. He slipped in her ass, was long but not big girth. Feeling his cock hard against mine was amazing. I couldn't move, so I felt like I was being fucked, felt so feminine, and that felt so good. It felt like being a woman, being fucked, and I came hard and quickly. My wife loved that, the feeling of being full and making me cum. He lasted quite a bit longer.
  15. We've found that many men take orgasm control to an extreme and hold back, hold back, even when she cums. She may be tired and not want to fuck anymore. Or he may have held back too long and simply can't cum now. That has led to some disappointing moments. My wife enjoys making a man cum almost as much as cumming herself. So when a man controls his orgasm too much, it lessens the experience and fun. I find Tantric a bit too much in the head. So much is about control. I enjoy the loss of control, being totally in the moment, and letting go. Sure we can all back off and time our orgasms. However I love when my wife cums and her pussy does those wonderful pulsations that always make me cum. We love quickies also. For me being older means holding back for long periods can result in losing an erection. She has a younger lover who can last forever and does it in a way she enjoys, but sometimes he doesn't cum and she's bummed when he leaves. By that time I'm usually sound asleep. One of our favorite intimacies is me going down on her after I've cum or another man has cum inside her. She can have wild screaming orgasms that way. So it's not as if me cumming or another guy cumming before she does deprives her of pleasure. There is something magical about the taste/energy/intimacy of mixed orgasms. Her taste and my taste joined is much greater than the sum of the parts in every way.
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