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I would like somebody to explain to me the current standard of Vaginal (and Penile, for that matter) appearance. Since my divorce, almost every woman I have had sex with, married or otherwise, has had a bare puss. Why? I can understand that you trim you bush for bathing suits, but I can see no other good reason to peel yourself like a grape. Is it to make yourself feel younger? Do you WANT to look like a pre-teen girl or boy?. I don't get it.

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It just feels better. I always read the preteen-argument sooner or later in these discussions and find that weird.

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Mrs. Alura and I never discovered the joys of a bare pussy until she lost all her hair to Chemotherapy. I enjoyed the lack of hair between my teeth. She talked about how much nicer it was drying herself after urinating. We both agreed that the sliding of a penis had a considerably different, and much nicer, feeling. When her hair grew back, the razor came out. We developed a special style(?) of shaving which I described in a post long ago.

 

How to Shave a Pussy

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I do too, but have yet to hear a good answer for it. Personally, I think that it's also weird to insist on a clean puss. Makes you wonder what all of those pussy eaters did for all those thousands of years, prior to today.

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So, you're ok with semen and vaginal fluid, but not ok with a little hair? OK, I guess.

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AS a sexual exercise, I think this is top drawer, and might even be enough to put up with a shaven cunt, as long as it isn't a permanent condition.

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So, you're ok with semen and vaginal fluid, but not ok with a little hair? OK, I guess.

 

I find it expedient to ignore them and concentrate on the overall goal, Bob.

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I do too, but have yet to hear a good answer for it. Personally, I think that it's also weird to insist on a clean puss. Makes you wonder what all of those pussy eaters did for all those thousands of years, prior to today.

 

You make it sound like it only a recent development, but it is not.

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You make it sound like it only a recent development, but it is not.
I agree, but it is only recently that it seems to be the rule rather than the exception. I found it exciting as a special event, less so as an everyday thing.

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I'm not trying to be negative, really I'm not. My GF TRIMS in summer and leaves it grow in the winter. What mystifies me is that so many people seem to think that a hairy pussy is "yucky", and would refuse to eat such a thing, when I , myself, love eating pussy hairy or hairless.

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Shaving has been a pretty common thing for the fourteen years that I've hung out here.

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The reasons for shaving the pussy are several.

 

Women shave their legs to remove unsightly hair. The puff that is genital hair ruins the symmetry so it goes. For some it makes clean up of periods that much easier.

 

With current technology of disposable razors it is now easily doable.

 

Sex feels different with a shaved pussy, both to the man and the woman.

 

Personally I like a pussy with no hair, I enjoy it more visually. As to the little girl argument, there might be some there at the age of 40 or so, but having had both I like smooth.

 

Either way works and I would not turn down either type.

 

It's just a preference.

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So as far as shaved and waxed penis, if you like your balls licked and played with on a regular basis, and I do, you kinda need them shaved. Otherwise all that's getting licked and played with is hair. Secondly on the male perspective, it feels great fucking when both partners are completely bald. The skin on skin contact is amazing. Again I feel it especially on the balls. Much less the easy clean up afterward.

 

As far as eating pussy goes, with the wife it just makes for variety. When we go out to play she is typically waxed. Eventually though the hair comes back and it's hairy pussy time again. I like the bald look in general so I can 'see' ] what I am doing more clearly. It makes it a lot easier stimulating her pleasure zones.

 

Of course, just the no hair to get in the way, either in your throat, or caught somewhere else, makes things easier. OMG remember the super bushes!! They were awesome!! But I also remember the little scream when a hair would get caught, in a zipper or whatever.

 

Finally times and styles change. We are not wearing tales and top hats, bell bottom jeans, and women shave their arm pits. Let's face it soft and smooth feels brilliant. Sure you can buck a trend that you don't find 'logical' or 'attractive' but you do so at your own risk.

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Bob250 said:
I would like somebody to explain to me the current standard of Vaginal (and Penile, for that matter) appearance. Since my divorce, almost every woman I have had sex with, married or otherwise, has had a bare puss. Why? I can understand that you trim you bush for bathing suits, but I can see no other good reason to peel yourself like a grape. Is it to make yourself feel younger? Do you WANT to look like a pre-teen girl or boy? I don't get it.

 

Exactly! I prefer trimmed reasonably over the top and like the side burns gone. A triangle over top or a cool pussy hair design. Cute! Sexy, love it. Pre-teen is not sexy or a turn on. Sorry, it's just the way it is to a lot of men. And no it's not weird in our eyes. It IS fact no hair looks like pre-teen period. That is fact. Men see it logically, and with their eyes. We are visually driven sexual beings. I'd be more worried about a man who really liked it. Wouldn't want him around my daughter. Just sayin.

 

MrDiscover said:
It just feels better. I always read the preteen-argument sooner or later in these discussions and find that weird.

See answers above and below.

 

enhancer said:
We both love eating pussy! We both dislike hair stuck in our teeth. Shaved pussy equals no hair. Simple as that. Has nothing to do with the person looking younger. Same goes for her preferring the males being shaved too.

 

Great, is has nothing to do with wanting to look younger. Cool. But it does, look that way at least. And that's a little weird in many men's eyes for an adult woman to want to do. I love eating pussy more then anybody. The problem with a fully shaved pussy is stubble. Its not fun to feel on your nose or lips or tongue, or face. And the women I've been with don't shave every single day. That's tender skin down there. I know, I have balls I have shaved too, not to mention my tender face lol. It's tender and sensitive and full of nerve ending down there as we all know. Even being gentle you can get a nick, or razor burn. Balls are NOT easy to shave. I know a pussy is easier to shave in my opinion. I have shaved one before and I had not a problem getting a Nice shave. I do agree, a freshly shaved pussy is like no other to lick suck and fuck. Absolute pure heaven period. But even a day's worth of stubble if she has courser hair is not pleasant. I never thought it could be rough enough on a female vagina to be uncomfortable. Aren't all women pussy hair as soft and gently as peach fuzz? NO, it's Not lol! It softens a little longer. No we don't want it long enough to braid lol come on hahaha! I'm kidding. But there is a just right pussy hair length that's a raging turn on most men LOVE. And a bare pussy ain't it. And getting a very rare random hair in your mouth while eating pussy comes along with the territory, get over it and jump in and get your tongue wet! lol. I ain't afraid hahahaha! You pause, stick your tongue out to pick it off your tongue, wipe on whatever is the first thing you can touch to get it off your finger, and you get back to the pure joy of licking that fucking hot dripping wet YummY! sweet tasting pussy. MMmmmm...sooo gooood! You know the routine lol. We've all done it hahaha I love visualization.

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So as far as shaved and waxed penis, if you like your balls licked and played with on a regular basis, and I do, you kinda need them shaved. Otherwise all that's getting licked and played with is hair. Secondly on the male perspective, it feels great fucking when both partners are completely bald. The skin on skin contact is amazing. Again I feel it especially on the balls. Much less the easy clean up afterward.

 

As far as eating pussy goes, with the wife it just makes for variety. When we go out to play she is typically waxed. Eventually though the hair comes back and it's hairy pussy time again. I like the bald look in general so I can 'see' ] what I am doing more clearly. It makes is a lot easier stimulating her pleasure zones.

 

Of course, just the no hair to get in the way, either in your throat, or caught somewhere else, makes things easier. OMG remember the super bushes!! They were awesome!! But I also remember the little scream when a hair would get caught, in a zipper or whatever.

 

Finally times and styles change. We are not wearing tales and top hats, bell bottom jeans, and women shave their arm pits. Let's face it soft and smooth feels brilliant. Sure you can buck a trend that you don't find 'logical' or 'attractive' but you do so at your own risk.

I have never had any problem getting my balls sucked or played with by any of my playmates, and I am pretty hairy......funny thing that.

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Like I said, I see it as a special treat or at least as a different flavor of treat. Like sometimes I like blackberry or red currant jam and sometimes marmalade, but I wouldn't ALWAYS want it to be the same, and I certainly wouldn't let it put me off my toast. Another thing is that pushing aside a nice bush (with tongue preferably) to reveal a pretty pink, wet pussy, is like opening a birthday present.:)

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I found that it got licked a lot more shaved and that I tend to show it much more.

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Hair, no hair, whatever. I'm never there for the hair. If there is stubble somewhere, I just avoid it. I've never found a hairy set of lips or clit. My biggest concern while there is my stubble. My beard is ridicules in how bristly is is. I'm more concerned about irritating her tender creamy white thigh skin by delving in too deeply.

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Styles come and styles go. Over the last few decades we have trended towards less hair on the body. At some point it will switch back. Things that were popular at one time are giggled about years later (Mullet hairdo anyone?).

 

Psychoanalyzing based on a person's pussy preferences is a waste of time as well. I could just as easily say that a man that likes a thick 70's style bush secretly wants to fuck Mrs. Bigfoot, and be just as wrong.

 

Goonie Goo Goo.

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... Why? ...

 

Can't really say. We are all to varying degrees trimmed down there but not shaved, although the women shave in the edges to be neat. Totally shaved would be a little weird and too much trouble. But I must admit, the guys are expected to shave their faces so as not to become rough and scruffy.

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That's interesting. I wonder why? I don't see a bare puss as being more attractive than a nice bush.

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Also, this works both ways. Those who insist on bare genitalia and insinuate that to have hair, is to be unhygienic.

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You could always carry a Merkin with you, and ask the shaved ladies to wear it. ;)
Yep, I could attach some fishing line to it, and scare the hell out of everybody.

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BTW, do you have a theatrical background? Not many people even know what a merkin, is.

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That is so wrong to say you are some sort of sexual deviant/pedophile if you like a pussy that is shaved! I just like a nice smooth pussy with no hair in my mouth or nose! That's my preference and I also shave my dick and balls because my wife doesn't enjoy a mouthful of pubes when she goes down on me! Times are different now and grooming should be the norm in my opinion!

 

How many people enjoy women with hairy legs and armpits? Same for men nowadays I think, manscaping should be the norm!

 

Nothing wrong if you don't like that, but most people nowadays do in my opinion.

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That is so wrong to say you are some sort of sexual deviant/pedophile if you like a pussy that is shaved! I just like a nice smooth pussy with no hair in my mouth or nose! That's my preference and I also shave my dick and balls because my wife doesn't enjoy a mouthful of pubes when she goes down on me! Times are different now and grooming should be the norm in my opinion!

 

How many people enjoy women with harry legs and armpits? Same for men nowadays I think, manscaping should be the norm!

 

Nothing wrong if you don't like that, but most people nowadays do in my opinion.

Firstly, I never accused anybody of anything. I asked a question. There is a huge difference between accusing and asking. With regards to "manscaping" I have no objection to it, except, of course, the term "manscaping", sounds a bit silly to me. :)

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Regarding thinking about naked children when looking at shaven adult genitalia, I personally think it takes a different way of viewing the world at large and eroticism in particular as I do.

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Who said anything about being ATTRACTED to pre-teen persons? I certainly didn't, in any of my posts. I clearly said (to feel younger) and (to look like a pre-teen person). The sexuality issue was brought up by other posters, not me. I am more interested in the opinions of those who DO it, not those who are attracted to it. I have mentioned the hygiene aspect and the insistence of some people that the pubic area be bare as a prerequisite to playing. Some of you guys and gals seem to be more interested in picking a fight, than in discussion.

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Who said anything about being ATTRACTED to pre-teen persons? I certainly didn't, in any of my posts. I clearly said (to feel younger) and (to look like a pre-teen person).
As it is to have sex with that girl with or without hair, to say shaving TO LOOK LIKE a pre-teen person is the same thing of saying being attracted by pre-teens. Of course all bare pussy lovers like me jump from their seats :) Do some people needs to see hair on a girl to know she's not too young? Girls get hair at 12 years old so I hope not! :D

 

I grew up in Europe, all girls weren't shave at that same (today all are). I moved to the US and the first time I had sex with a shaved girl (she was American) it was so awesome (specially oral sex) and sexy I knew at this moment I will never go back to hairy ones!

 

Do you Bob250 like to go down on girls / is it something you do often? Just a question. Maybe it is link to that?

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Who said anything about being ATTRACTED to pre-teen persons?.

 

Not me. I only want to share my point of view, that it would not cross my mind to compare an bare vagina with a child. Not picking a fight, just exchanging views.

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Not me. I only want to share my point of view, that it would not cross my mind to compare an bare vagina with a child. Not picking a fight, just exchanging views.
It never occurred to me, either. When I was researching the issue, though, it cropped up a number of times. Less because of any attraction, and more because of our "youth oriented" culture. In my opinion, the cultural aspect is probably the most important.

Body hair is one of the first VISUAL indications of puberty and approaching adulthood. Throughout history, removal of body hair has been used by cultures as indicators of refinement, health and youth. In our current culture, we treasure the APPEARANCE of youth higher than just about any other criteria. This is borne out by the fashion industry and by vast increases in the use of cosmetics/ health and beauty aids, and cosmetic surgery. The standards of beauty reflect this also, and have done for a number of years. So I think that most people are less concerned by body hair, of itself, and more concerned about following the trend.

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Continued........You can get people to do pretty much anything, if they are convinced it is trendy. Very much like the tattoo phenomena. Eventually, our perception of beauty and desirability will change, and shaven crotches will become passe'. BTW, a good long-term investment would be tattoo removal research.:)

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I actually started this thread because of two things that happened to me recently. I am purchasing some renovation properties in Detroit, so GF and I went to the Motor City for a mini vac, to check them out. The night of my birthday, GF dyed her bush red and trimmed it into a heart shape. With her mini red nightie, she was an erection maker and heart breaker....for sure. The other thing was when we went to lunch, we saw a woman who was dressed in a typical school girl outfit. Pleated, plaid skirt, ruffled blouse, white knee socks and saddle shoes. She was about 65 or more Y.O. The combination of the two incidents started me on this train of thought.

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I see. I find school uniforms, pig tails and such a different issue. Not erotic at all. The difference is doing it on purpose to look like a kid, versus just shaving for other reasons (and in the process happen to look like a kid to some).

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Mrs. Alura and I had only sons, so I really don't know what a pre-pubescent pussy looks like. I must say that I never saw a shaved woman who made me think of children. How the hell did such a discussion end up on the Swingers Board, anyway?? It is not needed here, in my lowly and humble, if steadfast, opinion.

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Well, I do think it fits on this board, in 'Let's talk about sex'. At least in my country, shaven is the norm in and around the LS. In the vanilla world this is far less. Also, as I stated in my first post in this thread, this is not the first time I came across the teen-argument in the LS. Both subjects can come up, if a vanilla couple or person starts in the LS. Or people swing a long time, across the changing norm or trend on pubic hair. Etc. For that reason, I think it fits. Regarding the children-part of this subject: I rather have an open discussion about that undercurrent than that is been kept under the carpet.

 

But of course this is solely my personal view, and maybe also region-centric. :)

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Mrs. Alura and I had only sons, so I really don't know what a pre-pubescent pussy looks like. I must say that I never saw a shaved woman who made me think of children. How the hell did such a discussion end up on the Swingers Board, anyway?? It is not needed here, in my lowly and humble, if steadfast, opinion.
Well, under the heading of "The Topic of Sex" I think this qualifies. PLus I disagree with three of the five opinions you state in your last sentence. 1. It is needed as much as anybody's threads so I disagree. 2.Your opinion is not "lowly" so I disagree 3. Your opinion is not "humble" so again, I disagree 4. Your opinion is "steadfast" so I agree and 5. It IS your opinion so I can also agree with that.:) I am a very cooperative fellow.:)
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Well, I do think it fits on this board, in 'Let's talk about sex'. At least in my country, shaven is the norm in and around the LS. In the vanilla world this is far less. Also, as I stated in my first post in this thread, this is not the first time I came across the teen-argument in the LS. Both subjects can come up, if a vanilla couple or person starts in the LS. Or people swing a long time, across the changing norm or trend on pubic hair. Etc. For that reason, I think it fits. Regarding the children-part of this subject: I rather have an open discussion about that undercurrent than that is been kept under the carpet.

 

But of course this is solely my personal view, and maybe also region-centric. :)

This is a VERY good point. Is the insistence on bareness primarily an LS thing? Could be. From my admittedly limited experience, I think that the use of condoms is more prevalent in the LS than in the vanilla world, so possibly this is the same thing, maybe?

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I think so. For instance, according to this study from 2010, these are the percentage of woman with a bare pussy, divided by age group:

 

18-24 20.6%

25-29 12.5%

30-39 8.6%

40-49 6.6%

50> 2.1%

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Mrs Doc has a trimmed "landing strip" but the area directly above and around her pussy is shaved. I manscape. We determined that a substantial bush is somewhat of a hygiene issue for us both. No matter how clean a person, there is a muskiness associated with pussy hair and Mrs Doc says with male pubic hair. We've found that shaving or manscaping eliminates those odors almost completely. The difference is sufficient enough for us that we no longer play with couples where one or the other has a full bush.

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Mrs Doc has a trimmed "landing strip" but the area directly above and around her pussy is shaved. I manscape. We determined that a substantial bush is somewhat of a hygiene issue for us both. No matter how clean a person, there is a muskiness associated with pussy hair and Mrs Doc says with male pubic hair. We've found that shaving or manscaping eliminates those odors almost completely. The difference is sufficient enough for us that we no longer play with couples where one or the other has a full bush.
I'm sure that you are right about the "muskiness" but like hair, it is something I don't get too shook up about. I happen to like the smell of a clean , natural cunt.
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Wow, if posters don't like the smell, look, or feel of a natural pussy (or dick), and use condoms (with their tactile drawbacks) where does that leave you? Perhaps an inflatable lover would be the best option. LOL It would be antiseptic and asexual.

At the same time, posters object to hair, smell and touch, but do not object to semen , vaginal fluids, saliva or sweat? The more I get into this subject, the more I begin to think it is mostly an elitist affectation.

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You raise certainly good questions, but you feel so strongly about the subject that you keep adding wordings that might come over as insulting or seem to miss respect for other views. Just an observation, as I would find it a pitty if this discussion would die because of it. :)

 

To reply on the above post: for years we fucked with condoms and bare cunt and dick and it was anything but asexual. MsD can NOT be compared with a doll because of that, thank you very much.

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