Curious about those that were just being a nudist, but turned into a swinger

Hello. Have a question...for those that had the only intention of just being a nudist, from going to a nude beach or nudist resort...with time did you switch in being open-minded because you were going to these nude settings? Maybe you switched because chatting with people in the pool at a naked resort, and thought maybe why not?

Curious on your situations.

Thanks.

We went to hedonism and decided to take the plunge. We watched lots of open sex, tried it ourselves and ended up playing with other couples.

I'd been in a couple of nudist environments - a California beach, the spa at Baden-Baden - before we turned into swingers. But I don't think those had much to do with our decision to try swinging.

I was taken to a nude resort by a photographer I worked for. (He said I needed to work on getting a full body tan). I should add that I'm an orphan, so I had no family to object.

We arrived there late on a Friday, I remember, and were invited to stay with the owners in their small cabin. With our clothes locked in the car, we all sat around in the common space cross-legged, and drank wine. I wasn't used to drinking and it hit me. The owner made the statement, "You two have to be initiated, so we get to watch." The photographer openly took me and I didn't resist. During the night, the owner took me too. I was introduced that weekend.

We started as nudists, much later became swingers. While there is a big overlap of the two interests, there are many nudists shocked by swinging and swingers who do not want to walk around naked. We have a parlor game in which we try to guess who the Swingers are at nudist resorts.

I suppose my impressions of the nudist resort and all that happened were grievously wrong. Nudist resort members have pure minds and view other members as wholesome minded regardless of their physical attractiveness. It's like the Garden of Eden, where both genders romp around enjoying the natural beauty that surrounds them without distortion. Where males view female athletic and mental ability over all else, and females would never eye a male below the belt to consider what he has to offer. Where all conduct themselves with a modest outlook and as equals since their status in life is not on display. How absolutely lovely it is.

Swingers who dare visit and associate with these pure minded folk, would never consider polluting the minds of such a fine assembly. When visiting such a resort, they safe-guard their personal lifestyle so as to not divulge their personal interests. Although they may allow their eyes to evaluate the physical characteristics of another member, bridging the moral barrier simply wouldn't enter their minds.

Said another way, what I thought I saw and experienced on my first trip to a nudist resort was simply a mind fuck - a fantasy of demented proportion that is offensive to nudists and swingers alike. Even voicing such a distorted view of the mingling of these two lifestyles has set me aside as a freak of nature, What more can one expect from someone raised of the other side of the tracks?

Some swingers are also nudists, some nudists are swingers, but not all swingers are nudists and not all nudists are swingers (in fact only a small proportion are). There still is an overlap. At our local nudist resort, they have a themed party every Saturday (that, from what we heard) that is pretty much a get together for swingers. Different rules for different resorts, but there usually is an overlap.

We would go to the nude dunes in Mich. and I found that I enjoyed it when other guys would come by and chat and even sit there in our little dune bowl and chat, sometimes as many as 4 or 6 at a time, all of us naked. Once when I saw this one particularyly good looking guy coming up the trail, I began giving my husband a BJ with the idea of letting young Jimmy “walk in on us.” He did and I began to include him first by stroking and then sucking one and then the other, leading to an MFM there in the dunes.

Hot - they are pretty up tight about sexual activity where we go but things still happen. On weekends large groups form and will create a space where people can play.

We went from going to our first nude beach with a couple we just met in a cruise to swapping partners that night. Maybe vacation, maybe excitement, maybe thinking nudity and sex exciting and definitely liquor. No regrets for us. I still can’t believe we did that.

Nudism was the gateway drug for us. But the place we go to is very clear that there is no overt sexuality allowed. Now having said that on both of our previous visits pre lifestyle we were propositioned casually. Understandable it’s good for business for a resort to welcome both contingents.

When there was cross couple sexy interacting some nudists were aghast (did you see him on the dance floor? Does his wife know?)

It’s a little tricky for us as we have nudist friends that don’t know we swing now and we are going back to that resort soon. Would love if there’s another couple we connect with and potentially play but certainly don’t want to get kicked out if we break the rules.

But we also have a Caliente trip booked so we will have a chance soon to be at a more open resort.

He had always been a closet nudist and eventuality got her into it after she moved in with him. We started practicing nudism around mid 2007 and visited our first nudist Resort, Cypress Cove, in 2008 while on vacation in Florida. When we came home, the next free day we had went and checked out our local Nudist Resort about an hour and a half away from us and joined that day.

Around this time was when we also started talking about opening up our marriage and trying FFM threesomes so she could explore her bisexual curiosity. We kept them separate since the nudist resort we are members of is family friendly, it happens among some of the members but it is not made public.

What really pushed us into swinging was that we had a few successful threesomes with single bisexual women but they tended to be one time occurrences and long distance meetups. We both wanted to experience them a lot more often and thought exploring swinging could be a place where it could happen.

We always knew that nudism and swinging sometime cross but we try and keep them separate when we are at family friendly non Lifestyle resorts. But we ar open to visiting Lifestyle Nudist Resorts and one of our plans is to take a trip to the Rooftop Resort in Fort Lauderdale hopefully later this year or next year once all the Covid mess clears up. And we both don’t hesistate to get nude at party as soon as we can

We are pretty "mild", but have been to Temptations, theaters, take overs etc, and though we had "fun" more as a couple, we have met some of the nicest people over the last couple of years that we have stayed in touch with.  All have been very respectful and enjoyed dancing naked & sharing stories!!!

We are swingers but not nudist. My wife says I have Nakidphobia. As we live in an area (state, actually) that has some of most strict nudity laws in the US. So you have to be REALLY careful. We just came back from a LS campout. In sparsely populated area at someone's house. There are a few nudist in the group but ultimately it's a sex positive group. Mrs Idaho and I just aren't comfortable being completely nude. Besides the fact that Mrs Idaho had a stage 4 skin cancer and I have a neurological illness that hates the heat. It doesn't bother us one way or the other. We do play that parlor game....do they? Would they? Wanna find out?  I will quite often whispers in my wife's ear "I would do her! Wanna help me?". 

The transformational image of "nudist turned into a swinger" might be slightly off the mark. Both social nudism and consensual non-monogamy (swinging) are alternative lifestyles that remove a restriction on ordinary vanilla life.

Vanilla people shower nude, take a bath nude, and not infrequently sleep nude. They are seen by their spouses nude, they change in locker rooms with members of the same sex and so on. That's the usual limit constrained by social norms, although there are those who participate in world naked gardening day, or some other one-off event who do not consider themselves nudist. Nudists remove the constraint. Nudists socialize nude and do not see anything unusual about doing ordinary things nude in the presence of the opposite sex. They are simply more comfortable in their own skin than they are camouflaged.

Vanilla people masturbate, watch porn, have sex, engage in fantasy, do some role play, but claim to do so in a monogamous way. Non-monogamy for them is non-consensual and is called cheating. Cheating is so common that it might be considered a social norm: the tabloids are full of breathless revelations and consequences. Swingers remove the constraint. They have sex with others and do not see anything unusual in taking their interest and fantasies outside the boundary created by monogamy. They are simply more comfortable accepting the drive for sexual variety than trying to suppress it. 

There is a common thread: vanilla life is defined by social norms--behaviors that widely practiced bounded from behaviors that are not widely practiced. The opposite of "vanilla" is "not vanilla" and encompasses a wide range of alternative choices. What binds nudists and swingers is their initial decision to engage in any alternative choice. The first step from vanilla to non-vanilla is the longest. After that, it becomes a question of what alternatives fit an individual and a couple.

This may explain why traditional G-rated social nudism promulgated by the AANR has declined in favor of broader removal of restrictions at gatherings and resorts and greater tolerance of choice. These places have become "nudist resorts" and more non-vanilla destinations that are nude-friendly, swinger-friendly, non-binary etc. 

I had seen nudist magazines on the racks in the very small town service station that served beer to the adults and ice cream to the kids. Also had a barber in back where I got my hair cuts. The people pictured on the covers always looked impressively happy and fit naked in the great outdoors.

About the time our last child left for college in California I saw ad in amongst all the ones for cloths and insurance, etc, for American Sunbathing Association in a magazine tear out, opened up old memories. That was about 1990, we joined ASA, to become AANR, at a club across country in Florida. California was convenient too although we eventually made day trips to nudist clubs locally. We occasionally had private sex outside or with the shades open but otherwise were traditional nudists. Actually we used to have occaisional exhibitionist sex for 20+ years before we joined ASA.

Those magazine ad pullouts had an ad for one of the Swinger magazines which I subscribed to for a while, looked interesting but not for us at the time. I eventually bought "Just Ask Julie" too, thanks Julie!

We went on several Nude/Lifestyle cruises where we met a couple that told us about their Club. When we got home I Googled it, it seemed a good fit for us where we could have safe exhibitionist sex and more.

A lot of nudists are prudes when it comes to sex -- or at least that's what they want others to believe. 

31 minutes ago, HHgirl said:

My husband has always given me the green light

Isn't it wonderful?  I loved the man who became my husband before he gave me the greenlight, but his generosity (without asking for or expecting anything is return, made me love him all the more.

31 minutes ago, HHgirl said:

He likes to live thru me vicariously.

I totally understand because now I live through hubby vicariously.  Once I gave him the greenlight (it took two years to become comfortable with the idea) I found the joy of both the jealous burn and my Lesbian side.

31 minutes ago, HHgirl said:

with the condition that I not do anything behind his back and I share the details.

More than hearing the details, I like watching, especially if she's bi and I later participate. 

31 minutes ago, HHgirl said:

I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings (about who I want to play with and who I don't)

Which is totally your decision and no one else's, not even your husbands.

31 minutes ago, HHgirl said:

I am new here by the way.  Hubby thought I might like this forum.

Welcome!  I'm always glad when there is another woman here posting and giving our point of view.  Please continue to post.

On 3/6/2022 at 12:21 PM, HHgirl said:

Family friendly nudist resorts are are having a hard time staying in business...

Whatever the reasons, the statement is accurate: there are fewer "family friendly" nudist resorts.  That does not mean that there are fewer people comfortable with social nudity... only that there are fewer who want to go to a resort centered around the lack of textiles. Both adults and families now want and expect more of their travel destinations than they did fifty years ago. 

On 3/6/2022 at 10:21 AM, HHgirl said:

Family friendly nudist resorts are are having a hard time staying in business because of all the legal issues  (lawsuits involving sex in the presence of minors) All the lawsuits going on with the Boy scouts has caused their insurance to sky rocket.  In some places having sex in front of a minor is a felony.  This is why the swinging has to be kept "behind closed doors"  at the family friendly nudist resorts.  I have been a nudist for the past 33 years of my life.  My husband was the one interested in nudism at the beginning of our marriage and I gave it a try and I was hooked faster than either of us dreamed.  Back then there wasn't a lot of females that would even give nudism a try so it was always me and all these gorgeous gorgeous guys.  I felt like a kid in the candy store.  I have always been open minded and I have had an amazing sex drive.  My husband has always given me the green light with the condition that I not do anything behind his back and I share the details.  He likes to live thru me vicariously.  I only tell people on a need to know basis because that is just how I am.    I am lucky that the nudist clubs that I am members of don't seem to be judgmental but I still am not going to tell everyone .  I have a lot of friends and I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings (about who I want to play with and who I don't)  I am new here by the way.  Hubby thought I might like this forum.

Welcome to the swingerboard HHgirl