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Well I am not circumcised and I have never had a urinary tract infection. It is one of those myths perpetuated by American physicians. Just an easy way to make more money. Circumcision is a totally useless procedure that has its roots in religion. It is mutilation of the male genitals. Furthermore, I do believe men with their foreskin intact to be more sensitive than their counterparts. That is a good thing. :p As far as oceans comment about the "smell". We uncircumcised men do not smell worse than the circumcised ones. You (oceans) just ran into someone with poor hygiene. Our six year old has already been taught how to properly clean his penis. As a matter of fact, anyone engaged in swinging that does not take a shower or bath before meeting with the other couple(s) is a dirt bag.

Since we are newbies and have had limited experiences I only have one item. I want to second Dan's post about people making snap decisions based on pics and general descriptions. My wife and I had two ads posted on the internet with pics (g-rated). Among a number of replies we had two specific one's from two different couples expressing interest - only in me. The reasons: One didn't like the looks of my wife and the other wasn't interested in Asian women. The one couple didn't get the message that this was a "package deal" and I had to e-mail them twice before they got it. They both are close to where we live and setting up a meeting would have been no problem.

You people are too funny. Actually, my wife read the entire post and thought I was an asshole for posting it in the first place. Oh, well!

Hey Liza, Speaking of sharp tongues - you might want to check yours at the door. It seems to me that you (and a few others posting here) are under the impression that unless one frequents a swing club they are not considered "real swingers". Hence, my comment about us maybe visiting a swing club, in order to acquire first hand experience with single males in that setting. Do not confuse that remark with us not being active swingers. New maybe, but still active. You really should take some reading lessons. Furthermore, you seem to be the one with a chip on her shoulder. You remind me of someone that is a member of an exclusive club, that objects to new members (with their own ideas and opinions) from expressing them.

Boy - I sure did open a can of worms. Thanks to Danc694u, Stratecpl, TNT and JEM for your feedback and input. Your humor is appreciated. And, yes Julie - I was being a bit defensive (didn't realize that until I read my post again) - my apologies. My wife and I have not been to any clubs and for now have no intentions on doing so (seems like a lot of the problems with single guys occurs in those settings) and yes we are new to the scene (less than a year). I'll keep all of this under advisement.

And most often it has less to do with a guys fantasy of wanting to see two women together (or have two women) as it does with the females fantasy of wanting to be with another woman. I disagree! Since I am not a teenager with raging hormones and I've been around the block a few times, I don't have to do a survey to know that most men fantasies about being with two women or seeing two women together (I am probably one of the few men who'd rather be in a MMF situation with my wife). I have no idea where these stats come from, but I do not know one woman who'd rather be with another woman than with two men (my wife included). It seems to me that even the swinging community would want us to believe that the FMF scenario is more acceptable than the MFM one. And don't get me started on the single bi-male issue. They most definitely have no place in the swinging community (according to most swingers I know). Hence, my point about the swing scene being male driven (or should I say heterosexual male). BTW: I have never had a bi-sexual experience and consider myself straight, but for the sake of my wife and partner I would reconsider if it pleased her (ok - so maybe I am bi-curious). I am so confused! Anyway - there is wide spread discrimination against single males in the swinging community - period. And the fact that there are so many more males to choose from has nothing to do with peoples mind set. Reality: People assume that a single male simply wants to get laid and nothing else. Well, I used to be a single male (17 years ago) and I have always been respectful of women and do know the meaning of the word "NO". There are a lot of good single males out there.

Let me begin by saying: I am a married male and my wife and I are new to the swing scene. An observation: There seems to be a lot of single male bashing in the swingers community. Are single women better than single guys or is it just a fact that so many men have fantasies about being with two women? Are women more inclined to fulfill their husbands fantasies? Why do so many of you think that you are doing the male a favor? Maybe he is doing your wife a favor. I firmly believe that this whole swing thing is driven by male fantasies, therefore I am perplexed by the anti single male rhetoric. I have also noticed one of Julie's comments about what can get a single male into a couple's door: Being well hung! Duh! I have had plenty of discussions with mature females that really enjoy sex and ninety percent of them admit - yes it would be nice to be with a well endowed male. Why is that? Here is a news flash: Most of us have an average penis! So, of course women are inclined to look for something different. How many well endowed men do some of you know that actually swing? Narrows the field doesn't it? It's like being a priced bull. But you want that priced bull to be married - hmm? Insecurity on your husband's part about losing his sweetheart to a single male. Better go with the married one - he is safer. I think most people that swing are hypocrites.