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warkman

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About warkman

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    Swingers Board Addict
  • Birthday 05/20/1953

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  1. Everyone at this party were swingers and you hadn't met this couple (that your wife had known for years) until this party. Is that correct? Even if this couple had played with your wife before you were married, it seems quite rude to me that the husband wouldn't have gotten to know you and establish permission to touch before getting physical with your wife, even if it was "just kissing and feeling her up." And then to add the comment seems assholically (if I may coin a word) hurtful and exclusionary.
  2. Did you ask them when they started swinging? If so, does their distance from you coincide with that? If it doesn't, then your assumption that "they picked fu**ing over friendship" may be incorrect. If the two coincide, it might be understandable that their new hobby has temporarily changed their focus. If you're that concerned, why not call them up and talk to them?
  3. I don't want to hijack the thread, but I found it interesting where the term "asexual" was placed - at the bottom of the scale after "Exclusively homosexual". Could there not be people somewhere between "Asexual" and any of the others depending on circumstances? Or does the fact that an "asexual" person might at sometime have sexual feelings make them not asexual. That would seem to be in conflict with the previous arguments having to do with homo/heterosexual activity. Maybe a 3D scale would work?
  4. I think this is it in a nutshell. You're both going to have to be brutally honest with each other and yourselves. You know your girlfriend more than anyone on this board. Do you believe this circumstance a fluke/aberration, or indicative of future behavior? You said you've felt or voiced negative feelings about other friends of hers as well. Does she have any friends that you like? She should have come to you first with any frustration she might be feeling regarding not being able to have a MFM. I think you have a legitimate beef (going on your side of the story alone) that your trust has been severely diminished by the breaking of the rules to which you two agreed. Even though the friend was an enabler, I think your major issue is with your girlfriend, and hers with you. Does she agree to abide faithfully by the rules you two make now? Do you believe her? If she has, it seems to me that your saying you would believe her more if she dumped this friend to prove it to you. I'm not sure that's fair to your girlfriend.
  5. Personally, I don't think he will ask you. But if he does, I'd tell him when it does happen, it's very embarrassing, disappointing and effects your confidence. Nothing further than that is necessary, and you're telling the truth.
  6. I completely agree. As long as you're in good health and not taking medications containing nitrates, there should be no problem. Be aware of the possible side effects though. The only one I experience is a stuffy nose and sometimes headache. There are others more severe involving eyesight and hearing that are much less prevalent. I haven't had any problems with those.
  7. I think in forum thread posts, neither occasional misspelling nor occasional bad grammar, given the cut and paste nature of word processing, is a turn off. Like Julie, text speak annoys me. Malapropisms and other incorrect word usage incite possibly undue snobby discrimination in me. It doesn't mean that the person isn't nice, good, or smart. It just elicits a feeling of discomfort that would most likely make me look elsewhere. Folks tend to look for others who share similar backgrounds, be it religious beliefs, level of education, political viewpoints, etc. What those thresholds are vary greatly from one person to another. In a personal ad, however, I would hope to put my best foot forward and carefully, thoughtfully, put myself out there with one that was thoroughly proofread.
  8. This is interesting that some might think that by being being bi, that the homosexual side of the person would be less discerning somehow than the hetero side. Is it true? Seems to me to be a needless qualification. Most people are hetero with the right person as well, aren't they? And that goes without saying.
  9. I believe it is the Sybian the op is talking about. It also helps to have a sound proof room with Sabians as well. (They make cymbals.)
  10. If I remember correctly, and if they were truthful, maybe one or two "caught" babies. I seem to remember a thread called "I'm Pregnant" or something like that, but couldn't find it in the archives.
  11. I thought I read somewhere that George Harrison wanted to swing, but his first wife wasn't interested. They subsequently divorced. Bob Crane probably could have been a swinger, had he not been into cheating so much.
  12. I thought I read somewhere a long time ago that they had a fairly out of the closet and successful open marriage/relationship. Don't know if that's still the case. Thought I also thought that Scarlett Johansson embraced responsible non-monogamy.
  13. Really great responses. This is what I believe. I'll go even further and say that folks continue to manipulate/interpret/spin the "manipulations of scripture" to rationalize their beliefs and behavior to a seemingly widely respected "moral authority" to live their lives the way they want, hopefully without too much if any disdain or reprisal from others. Again, if I'm understanding this correctly, any of these statements is subject to interpretation without out an infinite itemized list of things and conditions that would, in the mind of the writer, have you be "spotted" by worldly things. Even if there was a list, one could interpret each item, not necessarily cynically, but with the best of intentions to include or exclude practically anything. If there's one thing that's true, it's that a lot of people believe differently than I on many things. The problem with trying to globally unite a philosophy of "don't hurt others" is that there will always be folks that believe that they or society are being hurt by the actions of others whether "they should or not". Even if a majority agrees, is it necessarily truth? I guess, if truth means you conform and reap the benefits of not being punished. My goodness, I sound like a lawyer here (at least to me ) and I'm not. I started out in life pretty much believing everything I was told or taught that was delivered with an appropriate level of gravitas. Fifty four years of life experience and conflicting belief has taught me to be more wary. I think most people like to think that they embrace the "live and let live" philosophy, but if they get a bee in their bonnet about a situation, especially if it relates to their sense of sexual morality, they will usually try to "fix" it. Apropos indirectly to the idea of people sincerely believing different things at different times, and trying to find balance and comfort given particular circumstances, here are some less biblical "wise sayings" or axioms for living that come to mind that are to one degree or another, in conflict. I have fun collecting these. He who hesitates is lost. Look before you leap. Never look a gift horse in the mouth. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. Out of sight, out of mind. Birds of a feather flock together. Opposites attract. A penny saved is a penny earned. You can't take it with you.
  14. I would go even further to wonder what "God inpsired" means. At some point, at some given time, a very select few people claim to have had contact/communication with "God" or "the Gods", in whatever iteration/religion you want to pick. These few and their minions have managed to have influence on the majority of the world's people for whatever reason. I tend to think that the "mystery" of our existence and conscience haunts all of us to one degree or another. This desire to find meaning makes it pretty easy for us to create a myth to satisfy that desire. Generally speaking, people tend to believe what they want to believe with or without much thinking or investigation. Some people's beliefs evolve, some don't. Logic tells me that if there are many religions/beliefs concurrently and over time (with many interpretations of same,) then that is a reflection of the necessity of the individual to manicure "truth" to suit themselves. Whether this manifests itself as function of conformity or non conformity, it is still subjective. If God is as powerful and omniscient as everyone says, then He/She/It seemingly has picked a very inefficient way to effect "His, Her, or Its" will. Why not just get on the old "world bull horn" like in the Monty Python skits and give everybody a damn good revelation/talking to when needed? Even then, I suppose you'ld have a number of non believers. There is always going to be conflict of belief, be it within one person or between many persons. Even the "golden rule" doesn't necessarily work given people of disparate beliefs. All I know (and I think I said this in a thread a while back) is that I don't really trust other human beings to give me the 411 on God.
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