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  1. Weird how it seems for us it has always been one way. Glad to hear that is maybe not the general case. Thanks.
  2. In our case the man, but in other couples we have met, most definitely the women. This has made it difficult for us to connect with anyone.
  3. I got such a nice response to my "Can a Hetro couple swing" question that I would like to pose a followup question. We have little experience in the swing scene, only soft play with two couples a few times over the course of almost three years. (We are kind of picky, so finding the right combination is hard.) Anyway, I have had the opportunity to meet many couples who swing, and observe many others at such places as on-premise clubs, Hedo3, Desire Resort, etc. Again, I say that in the majority of cases, it is the bisexual girl who enables the initial contact between couples. Yes I know there are expections, but in my experience this has dominated the scene. Now, in our case, with a non-bi wife, I tend to be the front man for our couple, but it seems that in the majority of cases it is the woman who is the front person for the couple. When I have met and kept in contact with couples, it is 90% of time with the female side. The male side seems very passive. Whereas in our couple, the female side is very passive. This does make me feel a bit uncomfortable, as I think guys should talk to guys and girls to girls, but that has not been my experience. So, the followup, finally, in bi-girl couples is the guy usually passive? This has presented something of a problem for us as my wife is passive, so usually the female side of the other couple and I hit it off, while the male side of the other couple and my wife seem oblivious to each other. Both being passive that seems to make perfect sense, but has made "hooking" up almost difficult for us. I guess my wife wants a good looking guy, with a personality who is outgoing and somewhat agressive. And we are finding predominately bi-girl couples with passive male counterparts. Don't mean to label anyone, or piss anyone off, as I said this has been our experience now over the course of a couple years. Am I unusually unlucky, or handicapped by a passive non-bi wife. Thanks for any thoughtful replies.
  4. Thanks for the insights but I think the thread took a different turn than I expected. In a club or at a resort like Hedo, it seems real easy for couple to hook up when the girls are bi. Basically the girls start with each other, say just flirting or dancing, and that brings the couples together rather easily. What goes on from there is same as any couple I would imagine. My question was more about the initial meeting, my wife and I are both horrible small talkers. She is not going to flirt with women or guys, just not who she is. So, it seems like while other couples are meeting each other via the girl-girl thing, we are left out of the mix. I try to introduce ourselves to the male side of the couples, but inevitably, the female side is already making that girl-girl connection and I don't stand a chance. Am I making any sense here, or perhaps I just need to learn some better interpersonal skills, which I will admit I lack severely. I think we are both attractive, but I don't like sports, or stocks, so small talk with other guys tends to be brief.
  5. I am sure this sounds funny, so let me explain. We are fairly new the swing thing, with our first exposure in 2002. It was then I noticed that swinging appears to be all about the women. The bi-girl thing seems to be what connects most couples initially, then if the guys are lucky, they can join in. Well, that seems to work just fine, unless your lady is not bi at all. My lady has no interest in other women, and does not like to flirt with other women. She has been flirted with, and each time she went along with it, to please me, we hit it off with the other couple, soft swing only, and only twice. However, she has decided the girl-girl thing is not her bag. So, on a recent trip to a swingers resort, we were kind of left sitting on the sidelines, while the obvious girl-girl initiated hookups ran wild around us. It seems girls can sense that my wife is not interested and basically avoided us. My attempts to make friends with the other guys, were always cut short by the girls cutting in and taking over the moment. So, back to the question, can a non bi sexual female based couple get into the swing of things, or is it a lost cause.
  6. I saw this in action at Hedo 3 in June 2003 with a lifestyles group. I then suggested our group going to Desire in June 2004 use this as a light hearted way to break the ice. I had a whole rainbow of colors to mean many different things. I was then basically compared to the Nazi branding of Jews in WWII. DO NOT propose the straw idea amoung a group that may contain nudists. Nudists are offened by labels. Needless to say, I moved on from that group.
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