AustinandStacy

Let's just put it like this: all four of our parents would be more understanding and sympathetic if we crashed their car into the side of their house, left a carton of dead cod in the attic to rot, and smeared baby lamb's blood all over the walls on the way out. So the answer would be no.

I don't know about the whole psychology of it, but I know physiologically if I go more than 5 days or so my balls start to ache. I know I can just take care of that with Mr. Lefty, but I'd rather not. I think her answer would be more psychological. If she goes more than three days or so, she gets really, REALLY horny and has to masterbate 2 or 3 times before she can sleep. Needless to say, barring business trips or anything this is usually not a problem.

That was my initial reaction, too, after reading her addendum that a) he knew, and b) he removed it in the middle. I played rugby in college, so I thought maybe I was being a little harsh, but I'm glad to see justice is handled similarly in the animal kingdom. The missus hasn't read this yet, but I'm sure she would have severed all ties too. Condoms only is a big rule of hers, for both STD and personal reasons, and few things make her more livid than people who disrespect rules just because they feel like it. There are other people in the equation to consider. If you want to run the show, make your own rules, and issue the orders, then go buy a hooker.

Maybe I am reading this wrong. a) Boyfriend and Girlfriend at 18 are fine as swingers, but b) married couple at 25 are not fine as swingers, and are likely to get divorced. It seems like you are implying that the 18 year olds aren't worried about long term prospects with each other, or else they would end in category b) eventually, and their relationship would be destroyed. Personally, I wouldn't touch any couple without a long term commitment to each other with a 39 1/2 foot pole. (Much like the Grinch.) We know, at least as far as we go, our maturity as a couple skyrocketed when we actually had to move in together, compiled the finances, and had to make REAL decisions in the best interests of the partnership. I'm sure some high schoolers have enough maturity and communication skills to swing, but I know that no matter HOW well you know each other, you know much more once you have a home set up. We are just getting started, and are in our mid twenties. We know a bunch of couples who started in the lifestyle earlier than us, or at the same age. They are now in their 40s and 50s, and it's like they're still on their honeymoon. Frankly, I'm a little peeved that you are so judgmental, and so certain all of our unions are going to end up in the scrap pile. (Either that, or you are a really loose gambler. I wouldn't bet several monthly paychecks that martians wouldn't land tomorrow. That's a lot of money.) That's not to say all swingers are going to be happy together forever, but just because you start in your mid twenties doesn't mean that you are fundamentally unsound and your relationship is damned. (However, you said that unmarried 18 year olds can have a perfectly stable swinging relationship. . . I guess I'm just confused.)

She's more picky physically. We're in our mid 20s, and she's not wild about sleeping with and guys older than 40 or so. Facial hair is a dealbreaker for her too, as she loves oral and hates the stubbly feeling down there. He's more picky personality-wise. (Stop giggling!) He can't stand women who just sit their and twirl their hair and stare off into the distance during conversation. Although we're not terrible experienced (yet), he can imagine those kind of traits carrying over into the bedroom. He would much prefer an engaging, fun loving woman who is a little too skinny, or a little too tall than some buxom blonde who sits there popping her bubblegum and rolling her eyes. If the question is who says "no" more often, that falls to her, but that's probably because he finds lots of engaging, fun loving people in the lifestyle. A&S