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  • Birthday 09/23/1958

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    23+ years
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  1. Queen. I was asked to write about this. I mostly leave this for my husband. I do not write much so forgive me. I have always enjoyed cum from a man. I do not know why. As a teenager I think it was fascination. Maybe a little about I made him do that. My husband was the first to give me an orgasm. Other guys made me feel good but it was always a groping of fingers poking before they pushed into me. I was very lucky those days because my first few experiences were without a rubber. He was the first that used a condom. Just lucky I guess. He was also my first bigger guy that kind of scared me some but it was nice. I didn’t know those things come in sizes. I went on the pill and we have been together from 1976. He was very sexual and would have me most every morning and every night sometimes more. I let him have me when he wanted. So all my life with him I have always had his cum in me Lots of it. The many times he would have me twice at night the second time was a little nicer more wet and slippery. Then when we turned forty things changed. He was the same but my horniness went crazy. And my fantasies started to be very wild. So after some talk we started to explore. And I tried everything I wanted. I have had many gangbangs and many men at parties. These parties condoms were used or if we knew them well no condom but they had to pull out and cum on me or in my mouth. But what I loved was having my boyfriends and husband share me. I had three boyfriends long term. One for seven years so I would have husband and boyfriend threesomes one to three times a week. Sometimes my husband and all three boyfriends at once. They all would cum for me where I wanted on me in my mouth or in me. I liked it most inside me. They shared me all afternoon. It does get very messy and they would wipe me down with warm wet facecloths. I had three special events. Three special male friends, my three boyfriends and my husband. Except for a few breaks and clean ups it was an all afternoon and evening sex. They cum in my mouth or inside me. I was very messy. Cum turns to foam with that much and that many fucking you. We would have a round I would make all seven men cum. Would have coffee and a snack and go again. I always felt them in me as a slippery squishy pressure. Regular size and bigger three hubby and two friends are bigger than my shoe size (8) but I felt all of them. I didn’t feel them cum after I was soaked just got wetter. My butt and crotch was slimy and soaked. We thanked the sweets each time. Then take a break and go again. I went three times around with all of them. At some point I sneezed and what a mess. I felt special. I pleased all these men and they wanted me more I felt really good. I had to wear a wash cloth between my legs on the ride home. I was a little achie but could still take my husband the next night. What I loved most was having a man cum in my mouth at the same time as one cumming inside me. I loved that the most but harder to do unless you are with lovers that know what you like and give it to you. I hope this is good enough what you wanted.
  2. Personally We prefer home videos/pics, amateur video/pics of mature real couples, singles and groups/swingers. Unexpected results, surprises, reactions etc. commercial porn is ok and typical…..often boring, at least for us. However; The revenue from the global porn industry is $100 billion and is expected to increase to $117 billion in 2030. The revenue from the US porn industry is $13 billion. In comparison: the NFL generated revenue of around $12 billion in 2022, and Netflix generated revenue of around $31 billion in 2022. How do porn sites make money: 70% of revenue comes from ads (banners & aff. links), 20% of revenue comes from subscription plans (live webcam, premium, etc.), and 10% of revenue comes from online porn games. Definitely increases sexual imaginations for most. Definitely increases skill sets. ‘Definitely provides out of proportion expectations. Because of our anti sex industry views making sex, sex industry and those (women more than men) negative, societal disgusted point of views. Except for those who watch porn secretly those who make money are looked down on as broken disgusting people (again, women more than men) and against the law in many cases, especially offering sex for cash. We prefer an organized legal sex industry including paid services. There is a great line in the movie Private Benjamin by Goldie Hawn “….I’m a housewife we give it away”. Sadly this is our collective acceptance/attitude towards women and sex.
  3. We had met Darrell and Judy at a swingers house party that we used to attend way back when we first started in the lifestyle. We have been involved for about a year and a half, and we met a lot of great people and played with some. Although we were very friendly with this younger couple, we hadn’t played. We had been in the same room together, in the open room, but never really discussed or talked about getting together physically in our conversation. At the last party, they had learned that I had a service business, something they might be interested in. They asked if I might be able to come by the following Sunday morning when they’re both home and go over some of the things they wanted to have taken care of. Darrell asked that I arrive early on Sunday morning, so I was there about 10 minutes ahead of time, parked in the driveway. Darrell came out on the porch and waved me to come on it. It was about 8 o’clock. We went into his kitchen, and he poured me a mug of coffee. After we chatted for a few minutes, he started to describe some of the things that he wanted done. He also mentioned that Judy was still asleep but should be down shortly. After about 15 to 20 minutes of casual conversation, you could hear movement, with someone coming down the stairs. A sleepy voice called out, “Honey, I need my morning dose.” Darrell responded, “Here in the kitchen, babe, we have company.” Judy shuffled in wearing her pink fuzzy slippers and an oversized men’s T-shirt, her breast swinging freely underneath the fabric. She mumbled a sleepy, “Oh, good morning,” as she headed for the pot of coffee on the counter. Darrell and I continued chatting away as Judy prepared her mug of coffee and joined us at the table. Darrell explained to her that we had already discussed their needs and that I had come up with a couple of suggestions that I would get back to them on. Judy sat quietly, taking it all in, sipping at her coffee, gazing between Darrell and myself through the rising steam of her mug. The conversation then turned to the usual general talk about what we’ve been up to, what they’ve been up to, work, etc. Darrell got up to pour another cup of coffee. As he passed Judy, she mumbled, “I need my dose, babe.” He just shook his head. I wasn’t really sure what all this meant. I assumed some sort of medication, but who knows? As Daryl returned with his coffee, he stood over Judy, bent down as she looked up, gently kissed her forehead, and said, “Honey. You wrecked me last night. I have nothing left to give.“ Now I had a good idea what they were talking about and must’ve given myself away with a muffled chuckle. “She can be quite the demanding vixen, “said Darrell. “She kept me up half the night, and I’m all tapped out.” Judy looked at me with a very mischievous smile on her face. Darrell looked down at Judy and said, “If you need more, you’re gonna have to get it from him,” Daryl stated, tipping his head in my direction. I have to say this took me by surprise. As I said before, we have not played yet other than sharing the same area in a group room. I did not know what to say just sat quietly with probably a very silly looking grin on my face not sure if I should respond or not. Judy is the one who broke the silence. “Hmm I think I would like that very much if he is willing” again a moment or two of awkward silence when Derek stated “buddy you’d be doing me a favor I need a break.” Now I will be honest: Judy is a very good-looking woman 15 years my junior, about five foot eight, with an hourglass figure, long brunette hair, and large full breasts. To say I was attracted to her, you’re damn right. I just was not expecting this situation and did not want to overstep my bounds. “Well?” Darrell asked. “Really?” I asked. “Please. She has been talking about you since the last party. She is very willing,” Darrell persisted. “She sucks me off just about every morning. I got nothing left.” Judy smiled and giggled. I quietly thanked myself for showering this morning. “I just need to make a quick phone call to check in at home, but I would have to say I’m greatly interested and would be happy to oblige.” Judy let out a squeal of glee, clapping her hands in front of her, and I could not ignore the shaking of her breasts underneath the thin T-shirt. I made a quick call to the Queen, stating what was going to happen, and she responded, “Good luck, enjoy yourself, be home by 1 o’clock. We have plans this afternoon.” I put my phone down on the table, looked up at Darrell, and Judy smiled and said, “Well, I guess I’m free.” Judy took a sip of her coffee, turned her chair to the side and asked me to come stand in front of her. Once there, she did not waste any time unbuckling my belt and jeans, pulling them down to my knees. In one motion, she pulled my boxers down and buried her face fully against my flaccid cock and balls, sniffing deeply. She rocked her head from side to side and softly murmured a gentle “mmmm” of approval. After nuzzling me a bit, she gave me two gentle kisses, and using only her tongue, she swept my soft cock into her mouth. I looked over to Darrell to see he had a big grin indicating to me he liked what he saw Judy doing. I relaxed a bit more. Looking down at Judy she had her eyes closed. She was rolling me around inside her mouth with her tongue. Then she sucked hard and gently bobbed her head a few times, then took me completely into her mouth again. She was making soft, guttural moans as she continued attacking me. “She really loves doing this,” Darrell stated. I did not respond other than a sigh on my part. Judy continued working me with her mouth, and I started to respond to her efforts. As I started to swell, she took less and less of me into her mouth. She started stocking me with her hand and mouth. After a short time, she “popped” the head of my cock out of her mouth. “Oh my,” she said as she stroked me with her two hands, “I didn’t expect this.” She gasped, then took the remaining length of my cock beyond her two fists in her mouth. “Dude,” exclaimed Darrell, “do you mind if I take pictures of Judy with that?” I could only nod my head in approval; I didn’t want to break the mood. Darrell fumbled with his phone and started taking pictures. Judy, with just the tip of me in her mouth, hands-free. And then one of my full length from her chin to her forehead. “Damn,” Darrell stated, happily clicking away. Judy used one hand to stroke me while sucking on my balls. Darrell had the sound activated on his phone, and there were times it rapidly stuttered as he excitedly took multiple pictures as Judy skillfully continued the assault on my full erection. She tried to take more of me in her mouth but could only manage about half of me before her gag reflex kicked in, and she loudly gasped, popping me out of her mouth and sucking in a large amount of air while stroking with one, then both hands. Every now and again, she would run her tongue from my balls and under the length of my cock, sinking as much of me as possible into her mouth. At some point, the shutter noise on Darrell’s phone stopped. I wasn’t sure when, but he continued to move the phone camera around Judy’s head and shoulders, I assume taking video. After several minutes of this, although I’m not very sure of the time, Judy stopped. “Let’s go in the living room.” I kicked off my sneakers and pants and, with her holding my cock in her hand, led me into their living room to a sectional couch and had me sit on an oversized ottoman. She took a pillow from the couch and knelt on it in front of me. She resumed stroking me. One-handed, two-handed, then into her mouth. Shallow, deep, gagging a bit, then back to stroking. Time drifted away as I was enjoying every moment of her efforts. “Tell her when you are ready to cum so I can get a closeup,” instructed Darrell. Again, no answer from me other than nodding my head. Judy continued vigorously, trying to get me to cum. She rested occasionally, stroking my length with her two hands. After a bit of time, I heard her ask Darrell, “Can I try this? I really want to try him.” “Hell yeah,” Darrell exclaimed. “Is that ok with you?” he asked me. “Sure,” I responded. Judy is still working on me. “Only cum in her mouth,” Darrell instructed. I mumbled an “ok” in agreement. Judy told me to lay back on the ottoman as she stood stripping off the tee shirt. Her breasts swung freely, jiggling with her every movement. I expected that I would be given a condom or she might roll one on me, but instead, she turned away from me and started to lower herself onto me reverse cowgirl. Seeing my concern, Darrell assured me it would be okay if I was okay with it. I agreed. My crotch was soaked with Judy’s saliva. I watched with eager anticipation as she positioned herself over me. Darrell was giving her some instruction so he could get his video of her lowering herself onto me. I witnessed a few rivulets trickling down her inner thighs. She grasped my cock with her hand and rubbed the end of it along her lips while slightly lowering herself back and forth but not penetrating. After a few moments, I felt her start to take me in. She gasped and stopped for a moment, then repeated, taking me out, rubbing me back in. God, she felt great. Judy shifted herself slightly, still holding my cock. She guided me back into her opening, taking just the head of me into her. After a brief pause, she lifted her hips up a little and then backed down a little further. A few strokes and then a little more. Each time she did this, shallowly stroking what she had in her, she would slowly take a little more. With each deeper penetration, her body would gently quiver a bit. “Damn, this is hot”! Darrell blurted out. If he thought what he saw was hot he should see this from my angle. Damn is right. I do not think either of us were aware of time. There was no rush, no frenzied groping or pumping. Judy was in complete control as it should be, all about her pleasure, her comfort. It wasn’t long before I was completely embedded inside the warmth of this woman. Using her body to stroke me, she would take me shallow, then deep strokes, occasionally stopping, deeply penetrating, and grinding on me, almost like dancing on me with her hips. I could hear her murmuring something from time to time, but I didn’t make out what she was saying. I was too engrossed with what she was doing to me. After a while, she stood, releasing my cock. She turned, facing me, and straddled my waist. Grasping my cock she guided me into her, and she settled completely on my cock. “Damn babe, do that again,” Darrell, now directing this video. I didn’t care at all; I was thoroughly enjoying myself. He directed her to rise up almost off me the slowly back down. I was lost in her breasts hanging down on me, her nipples brushing along my chest with her rocking motion. Judy’s breathing was quickening with the occasional moan. I loved stroking her breasts, using both hands to hold and squeeze while my mouth teased and pulled on her nipples. She started to ride me harder for a while, stopping every so often with full penetration, wiggling her hips. Once she started raising herself completely and then slamming herself back onto me, taking full, deep strokes, I started to feel that I was getting there. “I need you to take me,” mumbled Judy as she raised herself off of me. I stood, and she knelt on the ottoman. I accepted the offer of taking her from behind, but I took my time. Partial and shallow strokes, then slowly pushing in deep. Gauging that she was comfortable with this, I spread her cheeks apart with my hands, went as deep as possible, and paused. With each deep penetration and pause, she would gasp slightly and pump and grind against me. I’m not sure who was breathing more excitedly, Judy, me, or Darrell, who was totally lost in videoing and watching through the lens. He had swapped out his phone for a handheld video camera at some point, but I am not sure when. I hadn’t noticed. Judy set the pace. She started bucking back onto me hard and solid. I took the hint and picked up the pace, slamming back into her with full deep strokes. Her verbal jerky breathless “aaahhhs” and “oohhhs” excited me and Darrell. He was moving around us videoing from various angles commenting as he goes. Judy announced we had to stop. I was concerned if she was ok. She was; she just wanted to be on her back. She grasped my hand and, giggling, pulled me quickly down the hall, with Darrell a step behind me, to a bedroom. She sat on the bed and quickly took me into her mouth, running her tongue along my length. She laid back her butt on the edge of the bed, pulling me to her. “Fuck me hard,” she said, “but I want you to cum in my mouth.” I nodded that I understood. I position myself between her raised legs. She pulled her legs back and wide open, bent at the knees. I leaned in, pressing myself against her opening, grasping each breast in my hands. Bending to nuzzle and suck on her nipples made me enter her partially, making Judy wriggle a light and let out an audible sigh. I squeezed both breasts together and alternated between each nipple as I started to push deeper inside her. She wiggled her hips, trying to press onto me. Once fully penetrated, she ground herself on me. After a few minutes, I raised myself above her and started slowly pumping into her. I alternated shallow pumping with a few deep full strokes and, from time to time, pressing deep into her and just grinding against her. It seemed to excite her, judging by her body response and breathy moans. “Fuck me hard,” she said, “take me hard!” Our director shouted the same, “Pound her hard!” Placing a hand on each thigh to hold her legs open and back, I started a steady thrusting, alternating occasionally slamming against her hard. Judy responded with pleasing moans. She fondled and squeezed her breasts and then gathered them both on her chest, cradled by both her upper arms. Her breasts rocked and waved with each thrust. It was marvelous. I was desperately trying to keep the same pace. Judy traced her fingers over her lower tummy, bringing both over the top of her pubic mound. Her fingers, finding her sweet spot, started vigorously rubbing above her clitoris. I continued to piston in and out of Judy. Her mouth opened, and her breathing sounded labored. After a few minutes, she started to make a soft-pitched whimpering noise. I continued to thrust hard into her. Only slightly withdrawing, then slamming back into her, making her whole body jerk, her breasts jolting about with each impact. Her whining noise was getting a bit higher and louder, and then it hit. She suddenly sucked in a big breath of air, her head picked up off the bed, a long guttural moan that ended on a high note. “Aarrggeeeee!” Then, her back arched as she slammed her head back, followed by rapid breathing and intermittent uncontrolled giggling. I felt her contraction, an intense gripping of my cock as she climaxed. I slowed to a slow, deliberate, full-stroke penetration. I knew I was very close. I declared, “I’m going to cum!” and pulled out of Judy and stepped back. Judy slinked off the bed to her knees on the floor. I was pumping my cock by hand. Judy pushed it aside and started to rapidly jerk my cock by hand. “Cum for me, come on, cum” Judy repeated this a few times as the build-up reached its peak. I moaned low and loud. The first volley went across her open mouth and right cheek. The next, she aimed me directly into her mouth. Third and forth, under her chin and neck, the remaining small spurts and drops landed scattered over her breasts. “Wow, oh my god!” Judy squealed excitedly. Darrell was beside himself with excitement. Other than the pictures and videos they made themselves, this was the first video allowed with someone other than Darrell. He said, “This is crazy sexy, hot as hell”! The clock in the bedroom indicated we had been at this for about 90 minutes. A first for all of us. But to be fair, a hell of a lot of manual and oral play, stop and start, prolonged it all. Judy agreed, reached over, and pulled Darrell to her. She quickly pulled down his sweatpants and promptly took his cock in her mouth. I picked up their video camera and started videoing the two of them. Judy had Darrell hard in just a few seconds. She made an extra effort to lavish his cock with her mouth, bobbing her head up and down and then swallowing him whole. She then pulled him down on top of her. He quickly slipped inside her and started hammering away with Judy, encouraging him along, “Take me baby, fill me up!” From my view, I had a clear shot of him pumping his cock in and out of her. With her telling him to take her hard, cum for her, and watching the two of us for the past hour and a half, he had no hope of lasting very long. He started groaning, Judy telling him to fill her. He let out a bellow and started cumming inside her. I caught the whole thing on video. His pumping and cumming. His cum leaking around his cock out of her. And when he pulled out, the cum leaked out of her. When things calmed down, he viewed the video and couldn’t believe how hard he came and how much he gave her. Judy chimed in, “And you said you didn’t have anymore, holding out on me.” We didn’t get dressed. We went into the kitchen and talked about what had just happened and past swinging adventures. About an hour later, Judy walked over to me and asked if I could go again. I looked at Darrell, and he quickly shook his head yes. “If you can, that would be awesome”. I agreed. We walked back to the bedroom and climbed up on the bed. We kissed and fondled each other a little bit. I then positioned myself on my left side and maneuvered Judy on her back with her legs up and over my hip. I easily slipped my semi-soft cock inside her. She was very warm and wet from Darrell. My hands were free to caress and squeeze her breasts. Darrell switched between videoing and kissing Judy. He occasionally played and sucked on her breasts. I slowly pumped a little into Judy. After a few moments, she exclaimed, “I can feel you growing inside me,” and giggled in amazement. Once I was fully hard I changed position to a supporting missionary. Using my knees to keep Judy’s legs open and my arms keeping me up to watch and nibble on her breasts. I started slow, long thrusts and built up to harder, faster, full-length thrusts. In about fifteen minutes, I was pulling out and dribbling cum on her tummy. Judy sat up and slid down, taking me into her mouth, making an effort to suck and lick me clean. It was almost noon, and I had to run to get home on time. We promised each other we would get together soon, all four of us. And that we did. They joined our group and played once or twice a month at our parties. We also traveled and shared very often for 4 - 5 years. Then, they moved to New Mexico for Darrell’s work.
  4. We have met a number of women in the lifestyle that had given sexual favors in exchange for something. Not necessarily strangers, some were more like friends with benefits. Like one of our single lady friends goes on trips/cruises/nights out with a man (older widower) she met as his companion. No real romantic relationship but more like friend/companion with benefits. She did meet him at a swingers party a few times and it blossomed from there. Another paid for half her rent cleaning her landlords house once a week naked with the occasional handjob/blowjob but she insisted never intercourse (meh). I have done a few repair/installation favors for some couples/single women over the years of our lifestyle that we had met at swinger parties/events where the lady insisted on returning a favor for a favor with a little one on one time. But we were swinger friends to begin with. I know that many of our lady friends in the lifestyle when in open discussion tell stories of giving something extra over their lifetime to get something or something done, including the Queen. The funniest one was one woman had a man come to take down a number of trees in her yard. Very hot days and he had to keep going under her hose to cool dale and wash off sticky sawdust. She said he was shirtless and in cutoff jeans and was very turned on watching him. By the end of the day they were friendly and talkative. She offered her shower at the end of the day and he accepted. He joked about never having an experience like that and she said laughed and offered to join him. According to her he laughed it off…..until she stepped into the shower with him and things progressed from there. He calls it his Penthouse moment. They have been married for about 16 years. LOL
  5. We experience our first exposure to pregnant women at a home swinger party. We were regulars and we were a bit surprised but not put off. Both played in the open room and at some point stopped attending. Later hosting our own events we had three regulars that attended up til about six to seven months along (all three stepped away until pregnant). Two attended longer but mostly socially and from time to time having/giving oral or manual attention. Years later we were regulars at a semi private (not open door) club. Over the eight years there were several (regulars) women that attended during their pregnancy and participated with the select few that they always played with and no one (the regulars) ever stated any remark for or against and all attended up to their last month. A few of those women used (selected volunteers) regular members to get pregnant rather than paying huge amounts of money to have a child. Not during a party or event but the location was used with a few selected regulars, not a group thing. We think it really depends on the woman, the group they belong to and the event. And yes I did share time with some of these ladies during and after when they returned. It was interesting to learn that those who were breast feeding had to keep bras on and no stimulation or playing with to avoid “nipple confusion”, Keeping milk volume to infants demand.
  6. Hiding in plain sight is best. Short answer, house parties, others homes, hotels, club party, other swinger groups. Our closest friends and lovers were included with family and friend events we would make sure they knew it was vanilla/family/friends events. No problem. And that way we didn’t have to concoct any story or alibi. Just normal conversations.
  7. Way back when……we used to sell adult toys of all kinds. We literally had an over night/weekend travel case that had at the least….3 - 4 dozen various dildos all sizes length, thickness, shape, material, color, smooth, veined, realistic and “what the hell is that”. For our party/club friends to try before buy. it can be a bit pricey but having a variety, length and girth, you can try under playful and stimulated conditions and use a cloth/garment measuring tape. Base your selection of what you know you already enjoy, toy or lover and progress from there. There used to be a pump up that was really interesting sold at the fetish Flea. Once inserted and comfortable being used you can hand pump the bulb allowing it to grow upwards of a 1” - 1.5” length (6” - 8” +/-) and from 5.5” to 7” in circumference. It was made from similar material to an inner tube but thicker. Highly important to cover well with condom for use, never raw. with women it is contingent on timing, not being tense, level of excitement and willingness to participate are just a few issues that would effect the outcome. in our own experiments, unscientifically, in our group a range of up to seven inches long and under six inches circumference was enjoyed by all. Note: used after several minutes of oral then gradually introduced until fully penetrated while giving oral. Orgasms were usually more intense. This came about from regular play sessions then those ladies that desired multiple males but didn’t want someone two big. So it made sense to experiment. There were a few ladies that could/did handle more. Up to ten inches with lots of play/oral but mostly more girth/diameter (6” - 7” around) less length was preferred.
  8. sorry for the long read. I have a little different take…..or two cents of advice. It is the same we’ve shared with couples and singles for the past two plus decades. first, admittedly open, honest…..revealing discussion between two people in a relationship….long or short term is at best challenging, fearful and with many stumbling blocks and pitfalls. Even the best of relationships has a great amount of difficulty “baring their soul” conversation with their SO/lover/best friend/soulmate. Especially when feelings, desires, wants, needs are involved. Ten times that when it involves intimacy….sex…..and the fear of hurting that special person. We have found a gradual step by step elevation of conversation….direct….not sugar coated….not camouflaged with half hearted “fishing” statements/questions and certainly never by demands or statements of “or else”, “got to have” or “I deserve”. After all you are a couple, a team….the two of you against the world. This should be an open conversation, not limited by time, casual about the both of you. An extra, something exciting/pleasurable for you both….with equal interest and a casual easy simple first step. Do not cloud it with Multiple “firsts” or directly jumping in with both feet into the deep end. The Open Couple/Lifestyle/Ethical Non Monogamy is very broad. It covers experiences….shared experiences….that could fill the Grand Canyon. It does not define you it is just another branch of your life you share together. My best image is think of it as a great tree. A mighty Oak, Maple or Beech Tree. A strong thick trunk with many deep roots, this is your relationship base. From this to many branch’s stretching in every direction with many more branches that finger out from that. Each with smaller branches that finger out even further, always growing. All tipped with clusters of leave for each life experience with new buds renewing those experiences. You grow and share together, as one, with many experiences in all aspects of your life together. Alternate lifestyle is all inclusive. There are so many possibilities. From art, music, travel, food etc etc. Then there is also more intimate discoveries, personal, open and shared. From adult social activities (clothed/non sexual, think dirty dancing/self expression), nudism, social mingling, lifestyle/ENM social but only the two of you (enjoying the social energy but only as a couple, just you two), same room play/sex between you two but in a room with other couples (voyeur) watching/being watched, playful touching with others, couples soft swap/soft swing (oral/manual only), from here the possibilities are endless only limited by your imagination and mutual agreement only limitations are the limits you both agree together. You move forward as a couple, open conversation both agreeable before participation. Like. New born you learn to move (communicate with each other), crawl, walk, run and race. You both decide next steps/experiences together equally. I would advise the communication/comfort level for you both, small steps, small experiences shared together. Then openly talk after for any advancement further. Try going to a house party/club/event as a couple for the social experience, talk openly with others. Only play is between the two of you to start….baby steps. In short do not involve yourselves in activities that if uncomfortable you can’t walk away from intact with your relationship between you both. There are plenty of us to offer advice etc on this site, do only what the two of you are comfortable with as yourself, as a couple and your relationship.
  9. A hard no (pun intended). We had a six person hot tub for 11 years. Loved it. Great social/warm up/ice breaker. We normally did not allow clothing (washers leave a lot of soap and softeners when done and dried unless you soak them thoroughly after wash, before use) The chemicals tend to dry skin making things rough. Makeup melts and washes in the tub water requiring special cleaning and refilling the hot tub. touching kissing sensual frolicking is fine. Also unless you like the taste of the chemicals a cool rinse off is highly suggested.
  10. We have friends who have retired to Florida. The lifestyle according to them is very active. However like everywhere else it isn’t necessarily on every street corner. There are on premise clubs and numerous house parties. Like making new friends anywhere you have to make yourself available as well as going to areas to be found. There are about 12 or more nudist beaches/resort/full community living locations not to mention private/home/remote location (stump pass was one unofficial accepted clothing optional near Englewood) Great way to meet people (not all nudists are swingers). If you are not comfortable being nude in a group situation you can also make contact the old fashion/social way. Our friends started to frequent social events, restaurants bars etc to meet new friends in the northern tampa and Orlando area. They made an effort to find bars, restaurants and events located in and around these nudist communities. where hanging out and being a bit social, music, etc putting the vibe out there in just a few months they made new friends and frequent events. There are also clubs/meet locations in Tampa, Orlando and Daytona. Try Paradise Lakes.
  11. Bigger than most, not as big as some. Based on size alone I had more “refusals” in high school. it was pointed out to me that I had not actually responded to this thread. Fully excited/rock hard 8.75” X 6.75” (no orgasm in 48 hrs, independently measured by others using a garment/cloth measuring tape). In the lifestyle there hasn’t been anyone who declined, some that were hesitant, careful. I have never been a charging bull and more then giving so other than a handful of playmates over the years that I would be careful with (shallow) not taking full penetration (surprisingly body shape, age, children) didn’t affect this out come. all playmates (personality, humor and sense of adventure are my attractions) with normal foreplay and build up had no issue with me. Except for a few times oral was limited to hand and mouth, licking, handjob only. Maybe a dozen over the years could/would take me completely in their mouth/throat. But PIV penetration…build up, slow start once comfortable that we both fit…..could be as crazy as we wished. The Queen regularly enjoyed and played with men of all sizes, ethnicity and penis size/shape. Personality and the ability to please and cum for her was more important. Playmates ranged 3.5-4” up to 11” long 7.25” circumference. Most often a mix throughout an afternoon play session. The real take away is everyone is different and brings something fun and exciting.
  12. Gotta kick out of this post. And the guys reporting…hilarious! Erection size is like art……in the eyes of the beholder. In the moment. It has been our experience that if it reacts to stimulation, becomes hard and eager for activity, climax achieved, ejectulation has occurred……that’s a great penis. The great part about sharing in the LS is that most every experience is/will be different than the previous. Even with the same players. The moment defines the the memory, satisfaction, how enthusiastic each participant had been.
  13. It has been our experience as well. Not all the time but certainly on occasion lesbian friends explore their Bi side playing with a male. Many described themselves as emotionally and physically lesbian relationships with a occasional shared time with a male friend or those in the lifestyle sexual playtime.
  14. It can be a fine line. Without some discussion with her or observation of what she is like it leaves too much in question. I have received that request both before or as an invite to play as well as in the heat of the moment. You have to tread lightly here as each playmate could have something different in mind than another or the last time you played with them. Permission at this time is not auto-applied permission the next time. personally I will not participate in very aggressive play, pain/hitting, choking, unsanitary play anything that can be observed/defined as assault. I have, by request, after discussion with the woman/women involved or boyfriend/husband/SO/master and what is desired/wanted/desired. Those experiences have been for the most part awesome a few while still good it was obvious the male part of the couple instructed for non discussed/surprise but didn’t end badly. I have experienced a few events that didn’t really kick off/cold feet etc. Nothing disastrous. And several one on one play with married/coupled women after discussion with their husband/SO or if single/solo some boundaries discussed. In most cases it came down to wanting to be dominated/aggressive/used but not abused. A open most anything goes, take me experience.
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