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  1. If your wife just spent one week with this guy and now is corresponding regularly with him this has gone way past you agreed upon rules. You need to confront her immediately on this. She needs to show you any site that she belongs to that gives her the ability to correspond with him. She needs to delete her access immediately. Unfortunately I think the damage is done to your marriage. This is the most common type of post on this forum and r/swingers. These type of situations where the husband lets the wife have a hall pass for a vacation with here lover normally dooms the marriage. I would have a good divorce lawer on standby just in case your confrontation with her is a disaster.
  2. My wife and I met this couple at a local club and immediately hit it off. One of our cardinal rules is that the couple's we play with have to have a recent STD test (within 6 months). The couple stated that this was no problem and the husband would get it out of the car. The wife and us started playing while the husband went to get the test results. My wife was well into playing with the other wife when the husband came back with the test results. I put the breaks on everything when I realized that the test was over 3 years old! They were totally confused when we left. Go figure.
  3. You left out the 6th key: All of the keys above can be significantly altered by the person/couple you and your wife/girlfriend choose to swing with. I encourage any couple thinking about swinging to read A Swing and a Miss and Swinging by a Thread by Audra Morgan. These two books (both by Audra Morgan) chronicle the numerous ways swinging can go wrong (courtesy of the other swinging couple/person).
  4. Before you and your wife did this both of you should have talked this MFM thing to death. You and your wife probably would have decided this is not for both of you. I know you had read that it turns a husband on to see his wife screw another man but actually this is far from the truth. Hopefully your marriage can survive this episode.
  5. This reminds me of a situation that happened at our local swing club. There was a couple who were regulars at our club. The couple's daughter and her husband were home for Thanksgiving and decided to go to check out the local swing club. They walked in , paid there admission fee and settled at the bar to have a coke (BYOB). After a while the decided to disrobe and go into the play area. At this moment the daughter realized that Mom and Dad where in the play area getting it on with another couple. Her mother saw daughter and stopped everything she was doing. Mom alerted Dad and he stopped what he was doing. Needless to say daughter was shocked (so was Mom and Dad). Daughter and Husband and Mom and Dad quickly got there clothes and left together. While this sounds like an urban legend (I am sure every club has a story like this) several long time members of the club swear this happened. The funny thing about this story is that the next time the club was open all four where at the club having fun.
  6. Thank you. AR1547 just doesn't want to admit they had the same experience.
  7. My wife and I are going to try swinging very soon. We are both over 60 and use canes to walk. The canes are due to a neurological condition and do not affect our sexual performance. My wife is great at fellatio and I am good at eating women's out (per my wife and I opinion). Hopefully we will not meet any reistance. We can definitely identifywith your concerns.
  8. This is precisely the reason Swinging does not work in in the majority of the situations. I have a few questions for you as a couple: 1. Why in heavens name did ether of you not call the police? Your wife is being raped and neither of you did anything! 2. I have not heard a single mff or mfm that has went okay when the husband/boyfriend was in attendance. There are simply too many factors in play that can cause this situation to go horribly wrong. If I was your wife I would never swing again. I would definitely not trust you to look out for me.
  9. We are totally new to swinging. We are leaning toward soft swapping with us have sex in a room full of other people have and then being a voyeur watching the other people in the room. That is it at the moment. We are not even to the stage when we do a soft swap with another couple. The reason for our tentative steps is because we have healthy fear of STD. Both of us have neurological conditions which would be exasperated by any STD we would contract. Please let us know if you have any suggestion or comments for us. Thanks
  10. We have not started swinging yet but are in the investigation (reading a lot of sources including books)phase. One of the the books we have been reading is Swinging by a Thread: The Misadventures of an Accidental Swinger by Audra Morgan. The details of the first swing with another couple really pissed both my wife and I off. Audra proceeded to get drunk out of mind and barely remembers the swing at all. Tyler (her husband)left Audra go into the swing knowing full well that she would not remember any of it. She readily admits that the only thing she remembers is Beth (the other wife) going between her legs. She barely remembers having sex with Alan (the other husband) or her husband having sex with Beth. I am trying to think of a good reason to drag my comatose wife into this situation. The goal is to enjoy the situation and being roaring drunk defining does not cut it. Since Audra was not coherent it was up too Tyler to make sure the situation stayed within their parameters. This is the same Tyler who had this on his bucket list. He basically wrote off his wife and screwed Beth. At no time did Audra mention condoms. Her and her husband must have a lot of faith in Alan and Beth. Audra and Tyler detailed in the next 75 pages how every attempt at swinging was met with dysfunctional individuals during a five year period. Audra proceeded to finish off that five year period with 3 stories of where the swing went right. She is not presenting a ring endorsement for swinging if she can only think of three swings that went right in a five year period. This book needs to be taken with a grain of salt. My wife and I are planning to visit a swing club in our area and have sex there. We will do this a couple of times and see where it goes. We will let you know.
  11. To all: If you think (no matter how little) that the situation you are going into has the slightest chance of putting you in harms way you should not do it. If you continue to put yourself in that situation or something like it you have to ask if something is wrong with you mentally. If your wife is stating that "we could be killed in the next few minutes" obviously where you are going to swing is not the right choice. I have to ask two questions: 1. Why is this behavior acceptable in you life? The normal swinger life is not that dramatic (other than great sex). 2. Are you leaving people behind when you engage in this risky behavior? Are you leaving kids, parents, grandparents behind if something goes wrong? Your wife's statement that "we could be killed in the next few minutes" leaves getting beat up, raped or killed really high on the list when you go into this situation. Obviously I cannot changed you mind (don't confuse me with the facts my mind is already made up) but if you can answer yes to one or both of the previous questions you need find a safer way to swing.
  12. Yes you read the title right. We use canes due to neurological conditions which do affect our performance sexually. We both are good health and would enjoy pursing swinging. We live in the Chicago area. Is there swinging groups or clubs that cater to over 50 or 60 and would not balk at a couple who has handicaps?
  13. Both you and your wife should consider yourselves lucky you escaped with no injuries or worse. Neither you or your wife had any clue about this guy or what he was capable of. Let me tell you how this could have went. After pleasantries this guy and your wife crawled in the back seat in a secluded location (probably in the dark) with you in the front seat. Anything that happens in the back seat is now beyond your control! This guy is holding your wife's life in his hands! What would have happened if this guy started slapping your wife around and started chocking her. If you tried to intervene you probably would put your wife in greater danger. At this moment a couple of things would probably happen. This guy would probably produce a weapon and demand you get out of the car. He would then drive away and you probably would never see your wife alive again. Think I am weaving fables? I am a police officer (my wife and I are swingers) and scenarios like this happen every day. The bad thing about this happening to swingers is there a reluctance to report the situation I just described. This is not an acceptable way to get started in swinging. Go to a local club and meet and great with other swingers. Plus one or both of you will not be murdered.
  14. Wow.. As a police officer (and a swinger) my wife an I read this posting about 4 times because just could not believe your narrative. Let's count down the number of ways this could have went horribly wrong: 1. The first paragraph solely dealt with her feelings. Are you even in the equation? Sure didn't seem like it. I have a problem with this situation but at least both of you haven't tried to put each other in danger. 2. My only response to the rest of the the story can be summed up in one sentence. What the heck were you and your wife thinking? Trolling bars to have some stranger for your wife to screw (there is that pesky only your wife is doing this) in the back seat of your car is just plain stupid. Having your wife dress seductively (you didn't mention this but I am sure this was the case)and "troll" bars to screw some random stranger is just plain really stupid. Since I am sure you didn't do a pat down on Stan to ensure he did not have a weapon encounter was already off to an iffy start. Not withstanding is the issue that you did not check for weapons and Stan had you dead to rights with physical power. You stated that Stan was in very good shape and you were along just to provide protection. I hope for your wife's sake that you are built like an NFL lineman. He could have easily put your wife in a chokehold and would have total control of the situation and there wouldn't have been a darn thing you could have done about it. He could have taken your keys drove off with your wife and that probably would have been the last time you would have seen her live. 3. The part of this idiocy that shows how much of an idiot both of you are is you drive to a deserted street so "your" wife can have more privacy. Pleases see #2 for how stupid this was. You and your wife then compound the situation when she tells you to get out of the car so she can have alone time with Stan (the guy you or your wife know nothing about). At that moment Stan could have demanded her car keys locked all the doors and drove off with your wife (another never see your wife alive again). This was so far from swinging you could not see swing from where you and your wife were. Swinging involves being respective of you as a couple and going to clubs or private parties where people have the same expectations. Since the narrative mentioned you and your wife operate a club I sincerely hope you do not relay this as advice to first time swingers. I was shaking when I wrote this reply. Someone will read this posting and think this is a good idea. My reply is intended to correct this stupid idea so someone (wife or husband or both) does not become a statistic. In closing I have one more question. Did Stan wear a condom? Sure hope Stan didn't have any issues.
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