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  1. Thanks all... so nice to hear all your responses at a trying time. So, she did come back around today, called me and we chatted for a while. She told me shes been really depressed for past 2 weeks ... she went through all the reasons why. she cried to me .... wow... but after all this, shes still happy I told her. :/ She was pretty critical of me and my H still, told me we are not stable and all such things. I let her vent, I guess shes still angry. I would rather her get it all out. But, later I had to send her a email with my thoughts after everything settled. She and I went back and fourth and it ended on a good note. I have a feeling its my GF that is the big problem. But, she even went so far to give me tips and such for our upcoming cruise. I guess its a good sign shes still around, all your advice has been very helpful w/ this. So.... thanks. I even told her that when we were swinging, that we considered approaching her and her H ... but for many reasons including the big rule of not swinging w/ friends, we didn't. I never really told her that before, and she seemed to get a kick out of it. So... sometimes its good to tell others what you think. I think everything will be fine.... but it just takes lots of time and healing and being able to trust again. She even said that technically, she felt I was "cheating" on her, b/c if I had a crush on her at all, it was truly "cheating" on her. lOl. I just stay quiet and let her vent.... it seems to help us both. Thx again
  2. Thanks all ------sooooo much! I have a vacation coming up in less then 1 week w/ H & GF, were all SO excited to go, but my BF holds this guilt shit over me, and its SUCH a buzz kill. (she knows about the vaca and doesn't approve ) I am concerned b/c my GF is leaving in less then 1 month. but since I told my BF about her, I have been uninspired to hang out w/ her and make plans. The cruise was booked a while back, so were all going,... but my BF and her H words echo around inside my head and its getting to me... Itold BF about several forums I post on and she says the devil will use any means to communicate, OI VEY, and other crap like that and its getting inside MY HEAD! My husband is so great, he loves me so much, he feels bad that he encouraged me to tell BF, but he had NO idea she would react like this... he honestly saw the same signs that I did that she would be totally open to hearing this... Now things are weird. I have given her a lot of space, but I feel like our friendship will never be the same, like a poster above said, like a break up of sorts. So here is my question. Do I tell my BF what she wants to hear? Lie essentially to her, so she feels better about me and us. Or, should I be totally honest w/ her? Or honest, but just not TMI? She told me she was mostly hurt b/c she was feeling betrayed, but honestly, I think she really just either has strong feelings for me (she even said at one point "aren't I enough for you") be it friendship or more... Someone above mentioned its like jealousy in the beginning of swinging (actually, something my BF asked me about, lol...and she totally couldn't wrap her mind around my enjoying seeing H w/ other W) and I just wanted to relate to that, b/c I was jealous too, but that totally changed to much more pleasure later. So... I will just let it go, and relax about it. I will let her come to me, and let her make plans w/ me. I think she is REALLY jealous as a person, she even told me shes VERY loyal, and that she hates being lied to and such. So, I will give it more time, so we both can feel out this friendship. Thanks so much all, it helps right now, a lot that you all are there for me, as is my hubby.
  3. Hi all, thanks a million for your replys. I guess its relevant to mention, my hubby and I went through a very hard time about 1 year ago. We had HUGE financial stress (well mostly he did, I was not in charge and was in denial mode about it) and we since sold our house, but it almost cost our marriage. Thankfully, we saved it, and we love one another VERY much now. Oddly, my friend is now sorry she helped me to stay in this marriage. She feels like it is her fault that she pushed me to stay married. Well - I had to tell her that I wanted this marriage to work more then anything! The swinging stuff that came about was part of our journey/exploration. I suppose she has the best for me at heart, but I have made it clear this is my journey, and all I need her to do is to be my friend. I honestly was really upset when in coming out to her, her first reaction was to think/make it about her. My GF told me that if she came out to anyone, and they didn't accept her she would say a big "FU" and be done w/ it. I wish I could be as strong sometimes. Part of me is bitter against them. But, they were adamant they just don't want anything to come back to bite me in the a$$ later. In a nut shell, they don't get the swinging / open marriage / polyamory thing what so ever, b/c they think you have a problem that your just covering up by doing such things or a void to fill, and that there are healthier ways to fill them / heal. My BF rattles off "factoids" like they are 100% true, I ought to challenge them more. She is a great friend, sometimes however she tries to control my life and outcome, which from recent exchanges, we decided that she would no longer try to do that, and instead she will pray to God for my best outcome according to his will. (I don't really pray so to speak, I simply just communicate with "God") Honestly, I struggle w/ religion. I was raised Catholic, with lots of guilt, dogma and I feel it hurt my self esteem (went to C. School, church twice a week, nuns being very hurtful to me, etc). BF converted to Catholicism recently, and she has a child (i do not). Well...... if our friendship is meant to weather this storm, it will. She finally admitted she doesn't have all the answers. I suggested we both read some books together, to discuss them sort of like a book club, so we have a sort of common ground or friendly debates... but when I suggest books, (Divine Sex for example) she writes them off as the devils work and full of errors etc. I guess her and I just have to agree to disagree, and not talk much about this anymore. It does hurt me that she can't feel open like I do, but her life isn't where mine is. All I can say is that I do have other friends who are totally there for me, not challenging me and not trying to change me. Maybe they are all F'd up just like me, or perhaps they are real friends. Only time will tell. Thanks all..... keep the comments coming, I really enjoy them. I believe all our experiences and stories help each other very much. That is why I am posting mine so publicly.
  4. so, thanks all for your support. BF and I did reconnect. She invited me to her house, to talk to her and her H. I was kind of hesitant, but I figured what the heck, and went anyhow. They both had talks with me, they both tried to wrap their heads around my choices. I was a bit upset when they (BF went to school for psychology and her H was a counselor) kind of tried to explain I was F'd up in the head in the nicest way possible. That I was sexually abused (sort of true, but just was a bit taken advantage of and was sexual at a young age, nothing super tragic), but BF who was truly abused sexually said her being Bi is due to that, and women are a comfort to her. She said it all very matter of fact, like I was completely wrong, having an affair and a huge sinner in Gods eyes. It made me feel pretty tiny and small. I hate that but I was able to get my views across while understanding too she was pretty angry w/ me, but needed time to process and take it all in. I shook her world upside down. BF changed her tune about feelings for me, we didn't discuss that at all in front of her H. (but we did privately). She sort of said even if her and I ever did anything together, it wouldn't mean anything b/c it was based on our abuse / issues. I still have a hard time understanding that, I think shes projecting her views upon me but I just kind of went with it since I don't have much research to back up my views. She also was saying my GF is like demonic, and dark, etc. I was like OY VEY but i just have to humor her sometimes... she gets all kinds of "vibes" but how do I tell her that I think sometimes her vibes are totally off. Like she said some things about my H and marriage that I know are not true, I have talked to my H and he assures me things like that she says are not true. It is hard, I don't want to go into too much detail, but I ended up almost breaking things off w/ my GF at one point, per my BF's advice. My poor GF whose leaving in a few weeks, and we have a trip planned soon, was hysterical... crying, saying how much she loved me... I ended up hating myself for doing it to her, and thankfully she and I are fine now. Its hard... coming out like this... to people who are super right wing conservative. im sure things will be weird... I did tell 2 other friends, who took it well. But, I'm good as far as telling anyone else. Now the questions I am pondering are..... -is there something wrong with me that is making me bisexual or is it a natural, OK thing? -if I am a Christian (I haven't been practicing for a while) then why am I doing this considering I'm married? -Should I have ever come out at all.....and now will my friendships ever be the same... -when my GF leaves, should I pursue a GF ever again or is this too much for me / my marriage to handle I suppose only I can answer these questions...but if anyone has any insights, they are welcome. Thanks all.
  5. HI all.... well I wish I could report that I told my friend and all is well. BUT, the total opposite ended up happening! So, my GF and I are still together, but shes leaving in apx 1 month. my BF and hubby just threw me an awesome surprise bday party! it was awesome. After my bday, I decided OK, NOW is the time (for various reasons, she has been talking non stop about GAYS to me each and every single time we hang out, and I felt it was just time finally). I had prepared an email a few mo's ago, which I really liked. It was kind of long, but explained I am bisexual, have a GF, and open marriage all in a nutshell. IDK in hindsight if it was TMI. :/ BUT, we got together, and right away she said "Spit it out! Please!" and she got nervous saying she was going to die of a heart attack b/c she hated anticipation. So, I nicely said that I really wanted to read this letter, that I was too chicken to send a few mo's ago when I wrote it. And, that I promised to get right to the point. So... I'm reading the letter, I get to the part about being Bi-sexual... and she looks at me and says "So, your in love with me, you think I'm beautiful" or something of that nature (the shock kind of tainted my memory). And I said "um" and she said "Am I right!?" and I was like "wait, I need to finish reading".. (oy vey)... I continue on for a while more, about my GF (who she knows now), and marriage and such. She had tears on her face, I was so scared we were holding hands while I read. A few times she was like "i have had feelings for you, but I never wanted to act upon them for our friendship"... "i have thought you were really attractive, but I don't have an open marriage" ... and at the very end, I think she felt dumb or let down, she said "You scared me so much before! I thought you were going to say you were leaving your H and were in love with me!"..... She cried as I read a letter to her that I wrote. I admitted also that my hubb. and gf and I were in a 3-some only a few times, but that my focus was w/ my GF, and my hubb and her just have a friendship, and we have boundaries and such in place. So, houston we have a problem here. My friend doesnt just find me attr, she loves me :/ and I told her, that even if the feelings were mutual from me, its not a good idea ever to "go there" with friends. I think that really upset her. She is in a very vanilla, closed marriage. IDK if she can swallow this concept of poly, GF etc.... But, she did admit she too was Bi-sexual, and named many friends (mutual) that are also Bi. I told her she could tell her husband, but only him. I went back to her house but she was being awkward and I felt the vibes that I needed to get going. (odd for her, normally very cool w/ me being at her house) IDK if I went too far into detail, but she was pretty OK about it, but then, when I was leaving, she seemed so sad, like heart broken. she was confused, saying random things, and I guess, had these feelings for me. But, she said she can't judge me, only God can judge us. I wasn't looking for her approval, rather just to let her know of a huge thing in my life. But, after I left I BBM'd her that I was so happy I told her and felt much better, then she BBM'd me saying "be careful and I still love you". (I guess as a friend). I wrote another email and bbm, but she set her status as "busy", then put a "broken heart" picture as her bbm pic. and thats it today. NO communication at all. I guess she needs space w/ this. I am so sad, crying to my husband last night and tonight like I feel horrible. I know she was going to to her husband too,I told her he is the only other one to tell. I do trust her a lot. I love her so much, as a friend. And, as I mentioned earlier, I knew there was more then that. WTF do I do now!? The 3 people I can talk to about this say that I need to give her a lot of space. But, is space enough to save this friendship? I am scared! I don't want to lose this amazing amazing person. She was even saying how I should come out to my family, and tell my siblings (who she suspect are also bi, or gay). UGH... this i guess was the worst possible scenario. I know my friend too, she will make herself sick and isolate herself for weeks in her bed. My hubby says if it gets that bad, he and her husband (who are friends) will get us 2 together to talk, but that is like a worse case intervention. We can't force her to agree or understand. I suppose only time can heal us. But, part of me is angry with her! I feel like coming out to her was a huge step for me. Perhaps all I should have done was to say "I'm bi" and not much else. I guess all the other stuff was too much. IDK? but even then, she would have said she liked/loved me, and such. It's so hard... I am in a lot of hell right now. I feel like someone died Advice is appreciated. Thanks
  6. Hi all - I wanted to come back to this thread since its still a huge issue for me. Funny how dealing with my best friend is more difficult (mentally for me) then dealing w/ my hubby and family .... sheesh:rollseye:.. lol So - I never ended up telling my BF that I have a GF or that hubby and I swing (well, technically, i am in a poly relationship w/ my hubby and GF, and from time to time, the 3 of us play, but we keep it just the 3 for now)... I am too indecisive about it to feel comfortable telling her about it... Also, I think I forgot to mention a important aspect/detail in my original post... about 2 years ago, my friend asked me to be in her will as 3rd in line guardian for her child, in the horrible event that she and her husband died, and then her parents and family also died. So, hubby and I are 3rd in line. I guess I have been thinking, since so much about my life has changed since she asked us to be his guardian (in that pretty rare chance that we needed to step up), and it makes me wonder and feel really guilty about not telling her. I can tell she senses something is up. My GF and I are legit now, and my BF and i have grown apart a bit. I sense my BF may be jealous of my GF or at least wonder whats up w/ us. I have brought GF around a few times, as a "friend" only, but my GF wears rainbow peace sign earrings lol, and is from another country which is more sexual... she doesn't hide it as much as i do... I am terrified of BF finding out. she is very religious and conservative, and i am not that way at all now. I guess I am worried about what she would think if she knew the truth. I know she wouldn't approve. Even if she deep down were really bisexual.... which I think she is, but I realize that is a mute point now. Do I just leave things be? Or tell her? Uugh, I am so confused.... this is hard.... BF is making me feel like what I'm doing is wrong, and I haven't even told her yet. And, I can tell, my GF is a little annoyed that my BF consumes me like this. BF is amazing person, I love her and our friendship... but I feel like I might need to come clean to her... I just don't want to have regrets... we have a really nice, big circle of friends I don't want to lose. :/
  7. Hi there, I just wanted to say a BIG thank you to all of you for these great responses. I am gearing up to admit to my friend about my "bi-ness" now that I am in a FWB type relationship w/ a woman, and feel it is best to keep my friendship w/ BF, and sexual exploration totally separate. Wish me luck. I have a plan, I hope I don't chicken out, LOL. Hubby is behind me, i only hope she is understanding and doesn't judge me. But, then again, if it is more then just a acquaintanceship, it should survive this. Especially to Lascivious L&L your post is simply stunning. Thank you for it. AMAZING advice and insight.
  8. Thanks very much for the replies. I am on the fence about telling her still, but at least its reassuring to know Im not the only one out there struggling w/ this. As I mentioned in the 2nd post, i told another g/f and she took it as to suggest i was interested in being sexual w/ her. I guess, to a degree, at that time, I was. And, I need to check my motives before I were to confess to my bf, as I want to be sure its something I need to simply get off my chest, rather then be it granting permission for her and I to fool around... more and more... i think i should just leave things be.
  9. Thanks for the great responses. Im glad to hear im not the only one.. I probobly should have mentioned this already happened w/ another GF who was not a best friend, rather a newer friend who was actually hubbys client turned pals who came to our parties, bbq's etc. The first time they invited us to their house, after knowing them for 2 years, and having gone to their wedding, we got way too drunk, and mistakenly opened up to my friend about swinging (we were just tossing the idea around at that time, as hubby and I were honestly having some relationship issues at the time which we realized were more related to his depression but i should note here, that swinging likely got us through this really tough time, be it good choice or not, i feel in some ways, it did save our marriage)... i digress...My gf opened up to me that night she has had 3 somes and believes all girls are bi. She really pursued me that night, and we made out (behind our hubbys backs) several times. It was really hot, and really passionate. (it was my official first time kissing a female). My hubby smelled something was up, and kept coming to check on us. I of course confessed to him on the way home (i was really drunk) and he was actually OK w/ it (a little offended at first, but later was glad i had the experience and was happy she opened me up to the idea of swinging and my bi side etc)... Her hubby was ok w/ it too, and ended up wanted a 3some w/ me (but wanted to exclude my hubby... i was not ok with doing it either way). I dont regret our g/g fun at all, but our friendship has been strained ever since, and I have no idea how to go back to being a normal friend after that, LOL, so i should know already from this experience, to avoid "going there" again. I honestly think she has thoughts that it might happen again, and since I now swing, i see no reason to "go there" w/ friends. I never was able to figure out how to tell her this w/o offending her. She called me recently for the first time since that night a few mo's ago (we were texting/emailing since)... and she said she wanted to get drinks and go out.. I hope she has nothing else in mind! I guess i answered my own question as usual... but Sometimes i just need to have what I already know affirmed by others to smack some sense into me.
  10. This question is directed mostly towards the ladies, but I welcome men to respond as well. I consider myself truly "bi" in the sense that I love exploring my sexual acts and fantasies with women, and also have "feelings" for women, in the same sense that I do men. My preference for porn is g/g, and I love embracing my "bi" side, and love that swinging allows this to take place, yet still stay in a loving relationship with my husband, who I love very much and wish to spend the rest of my life with, and have a family with. I am not sure if i would want a "girlfriend" in the sense that we are "dating" but my husband is very open minded if I want to explore a female fwb. Anyhow, I digress.... I have a best girl friend who I do also have some sexual feelings for. We are like sisters, and I feel that fantasy may be best left as a fantasy. But, sometimes the temptation is very strong. I love her as a friend so much, she is always hugging me and telling me she loves me and misses me. She wants "girl" time all the time w/ me. She compliments me at every chance. Its fun, we have a good time w/ it and I don't ever want to jeopardize our friendship. I think we both "play" with each others emotions and I don't think I would ever have the guts to "to there". My husband says the sexual tension is so fun to observe, and we chat and laugh after about the crazy things she says/does. However, Lately, I have been getting turned on by her - one afternoon i laid down in her room to rest, and she came in and changed her shirt, and told me she loves going "braless" lately. I looked up at her, and she was looking at me seductively, wearing a very revealing tank top w/ her cleavage showing and no bra under. I was so turned on, and freaked out at the same time. Last year (prior to swinging and being true to myself about my being bi), she invited me over to go swimming, and I was so sexually charged after I had to take a shower, and was fantasizing about her the whole time! She has suggested "girls only" trips... and i pick up on many things that I can point to her also being bi. I have wanted so badly to "come out" to her as a bi woman, and also a swinger, my husband jokes that "its not a matter of "if" but "when" with her. But, i think that is a fun joke and try not to take it seriously. I do find her husband also attractive, and would love to try swinging w/ them, ... but i don't think they would be open to it, and am too chicken to ask... Anyhow, when is the fantasy best left as just that... a fantasy? And, since we are "best friends" who tell each other everything, is it ever OK for me to be at least open with her about me being bi sexual? Does she have the right to know? Or is that something that I should keep to myself... ? In a way, i am tempted to tell her, in another way, its almost more fun keeping it a secret.. Thanks for any advice here! Anyone have similar feelings?
  11. I think that being "bi" appears to be more "popular" now, especially bi women. Many songs on the radio seems to talk about girls kissing girls, (Christina Aguileras new song mentions it, Lady Gaga's song "pokerface" is about her being "bi" supposedly, Katy Perry's "I kissed a girl", etc), so maybe because it is more public, it is more popular? Or just more accepted? I agree with you, however, it seems to be more popular in general sense of the word. Which is cool with me, because I am very bi. I even questioned my sexuality much of my life secretly wondering if I was actually gay, but I very much love my husband, and swinging has truly allowed me the best of both worlds! It was very liberating to have my first bi experience. I felt a weight come off my back, and my husband really enjoys the new sexual tension knowing I am bi. He is actually proud of me in a way, that I am so honest with myself and with him. (plus, for him it is a win/win also...since we have a single female we play with... but he also has NO problem either with me having a female FWB, which I think is very cool and understanding of him). My theory is many women (can't vouch for men) seem to be bi to one degree or another. I had this conversation with a girlfriend one drunken night. I have had mostly bi best friends growing up (either experimented with me, or I found out "through the grapevine" they experimented with other women). For me, I don't like labels, but if you are into girls enough to make out with them, I feel your "bi" to a certain degree. Hope this makes sense, lol!
  12. Thx for the added responses... I wanted to elaborate more after further thought... I suppose that I would not mind the guy making the first move... if there was enough chemistry! Thus far, have not felt much chemistry for the male half, and on top of that, they tend to be "over eager"... so i have preferred to start w/ the woman, (when normally i could take or leave the male half... sounds horrible i know).. however, now, new rule is we dont play unless we feel chemistry all around to avoid that. Even better (for me), have been playing w/ single females, which is a very different dynamic as well! In that scenario, the two f's thus far have made the first move... Hubby wanted to add a thought... when the females (in a 4some) are both "getting it on" it actually feels difficult for him to get things brewing with the other female half sometimes... we have that other issue to contend with as well. Its no ones fault really, everyones excited, lol, especially when 2 really bi women get together, however the guys can often feel left out! Any thoughts there?
  13. Thanks for all the responses everyone. Appreciate your input... and would like to add a few fun ways to "transition" to fun playtime from my (female half) perspective... - One of the females shows off her sexy under garments, and suggests the other female do the same or put on some sexy lingerie (this has worked for me in the past, lol, as I always seem to be the first one taking off my clothes, haha, as the other F and i end up hooking up during this fun process). - Massage or hand holding works well, even just massaging one anothers hands tends to lead to more intimacy. - A trend for my experiences is that to help break the ice, most of the time the females (if they are bi/curious) will hook up first... kissing, etc, but in order for this to happen most of the time (esp for first timers) the guys should go off in another room, as most girls I have been with have been shy with guys present, but the second they leave, the girls pounce on each other, lol. On the flip side, i will say a turn off for me has been when the other male makes the first move. But, I am very Bi, and prefer starting with the female, then transitioning w/ my own spouse, then to the other male, but that is my comfort zone which might change down the road... when i really find a male half i feel a good chemistry with..
  14. I could have titled this "How to get our guests Naked?" haha, but wanted to be a bit less crude... We are somewhat new but have had 2 full swap exps and 2 softer exps. Mrs. Happy (me) is shy at first, and i feel i end up drinking to relax myself enough to be totally uninhibited,...which gets me into a little bit of trouble. Were meeting w/ a new couple, and also a repeat couple, all in the next 2 weeks.. i want to be prepared! Its not the same as foreplay w/ your SO. You can plan it or have it happen spontaneously... but generally, it just happens in bed or when cuddling etc, but with strangers, or even repeat folks, it seems a bit awkward... lol. The first time, (pretty hardcore soft swap exp) we went out to drinks, and talked for what seemed like eternity. Finally, i suggested the hot tub, and the girl got all excited. She then came over and asked if she could kiss me, then we got super hot and steamy in the tub. But, again, lots of alcohol involved to get to that point. Would have loved to tell her to shut up (mean i know, but she was a chatter box) so we could get to the real juicy stuff, lol.. but wasnt sure how. The next couple we swapped with have been doing it for a few years. We did what we always do - out for drinks and a bite, chit chat laugh flirt.. get invited back to their place nearby, more drinks... then- awkwardness! lol. I sense they are interested, they know we are (why else would we come back to their house, or them to ours, hehe) and someone needs to make the move to "dive in". I think i (the cute drunk girl, oi) started showing everyone my sexy lingerie bra/panties, and then the other girl said "i just want everyone to take their clothes off hehe..." she was so cute too (and drunk). So, we ended up going upstairs, her and I making out, on the bed, guys watching, and then we invited them to join in...and things got all steamy from there. Another time, we met a cpl for drinks, and the girl got next to me at the bar, telling me she wanted to "do me so bad" (dirty talk is such a turn on for me), and we made out in the bathroom.. very hot, but we didn't end up doing much more (long irrelevant story), but she was the aggressive one, and i was the passive one (which is generally the case...). Re: the repeat couple, we all got really wasted last time, and ended up full swapping it kind of messy, but very hot none the less. However, I would actually like to remember my hot as hell swinging nights.. lol.. so, i feel being better prepared and having some plans in place to break the ice better (considering they are new too) will be helpful (and less messy maybe..). How do you all do it? It seems, since i am VERY bi, either her or I need to be the one to break the ice once we get into that private location. But, being i am pretty shy/passive/new i need to figure this out. Any tips for ways to do this better? Hubby doesn't want to be the one to initiate, since he hates to be that "over eager man". (in fact, he is so paranoid of being a creep that most cpls have to ask me if in fact hubby is even interested, lol). But, I really hate the awkward drawn out conversations and extra drinks that we consume when we all know we want to be naked and having HOT fun. And, specifically the repeat couple- we have exchanged extensive emails discussing desires and fantasies.... how does one suggest we make sure these fantasies are actually played out? Does one person need to be the controlling/police person of the night? LOL. or do we just go into it all knowing what we want out of it... I have some anxiety about this.. so maybe there is a better way ie: games, (truth or dare) or suggestions we can make during the dinner/drinks part. Or, perhaps the other gal and I need to come up w/ a plan together, since we are becoming friends w/ this cpl in particular.. Thanks all!!
  15. Does anyone have thoughts on the part when they discuss the hormonal issues/implications? They mention that oxytocin levels rise during orgasm, which is a bonding hormone. Curious to know thoughts on this... and from those who have more experience then us, if this has ever happened to you or your play partners? (ie: falling for one another due to sex/hormones/attachments). My hubby and I have not found that we feel "in love" at all with any of our play mates after sex (have only done full swap twice, different cpls each time), but if anything, spending time together or such seems to build more of an emotional connection rather then just having sex/orgasms. We seem to be really good at compartmentalizing love vs. lust (sex) thus far. (granted, we are newbies so time will tell).
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