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  1. First of all, all i did was to make them aware of what was going on, since they seemed to have such a big interest in the topic, and have yet to make a post after I clarified the situation. Isn't that was a PM is a PRIVATE MESSAGE. It is not like I bashed them for something, but it was her who said that I was "Cheating" so do I not have a right to clarify this??? Second.... Would someone show me where the in the lifestyle that it says you have to be husband and wife??? I guess two females aren't welcome either. or a single female, and maybe she is bi? Let me make sure that I understand this right. I truly thought that it was about people who had a common interest, and friendship, but hell I'm an OP so what do I know... "In my opinion, as well as Mrs. Alura's, there is no such thing as a "legitmate" single male in swinging. If you don't have a wife, whom you love dearly, to bring to the party, you are not going to get the opportunity to play with my wife, who means the world to me. (She will make sure of that.) "Close female friends" do not qualify. So what you are saying ONLY husband and wife????? Dude, I think that you just stepped on the toes of a lot of people here.... And about playing with you wife... I do have certain standards, and neither one of you qualify...
  2. Married anymore? NOPE... AND FOR THE RECORD, NO, I HAVE NEVER CHEATED. But I do attend socials with a very close female friend of mine, and yes, we play together... and with other couples. Some last minute events came up unannounced, therefore I decided to go ahead and attend that evening by myself. It wasn't until then that I realized the big difference in the way things were operated. I had never attended one being on the single side. So therefore that was the reason for my questions... One question which has not been answered though. If only a few selected males are invited to attend, then why would there be a problem with the social being overrun with single males? Or is this just a term that is used to comfort couples and single females to get them in? Or is it a misleading statement? In the advertisement it says "a few selected males" so before someone jumps to conclusions, I am not saying all clubs and socials are this way. But my basic question was why does it cost so much for the single males? And I think that it has been answered...
  3. Alright, maybe I should have rephrased some things, so let me do that now... First, I was trying to make a simple point. It seems like these socials are against single males, well that's fine, but there is also another side to it... what about the single females? I'll get to that in a second... All I was saying was why do they push for the single females, and yet not want any single males, if it is a place where swingers can get together and meet, and that's what socials are about, meeting new people that have a common interest. I am sure that they are a lot of women out there that would appreciate a few more single men and a lot less single females. I am sure to some that it is nice to see females all over each other, but at the same time, I am pretty sure that they would like to see a few male and females getting it on too (and I am really sure that some females, seeing females all over each other, look at it like we do with two male getting it on...). Another observation I made was you saw females getting it on, but yet not one word was said to them. At the same time this other couple (male female) were getting it on and they were asked to take it to the room. All I am trying to say is... why the double standards? You can ask just about any straight female (single or couple) that has been to a social - how many times have you been groped, by a bi female, without them asking? This same thread is going on on Swingular, and I borrowed this quote from a female that responded: "Single females are in my opinion more pushy, more aggressive, and the bi ones have groped me more often and more aggressively then men (not that I have not been groped by men). It is just Bi-fems don't even bother to find out if I'm gay or not, just grope me anyway. Personally I find it more offensive because I am not gay." I am sorry if I didn't properly put it in to context, and yes, I could have used a better example, I was just making a statement. And like I said, that was my first as a single male... I never said that I hadn't attended one before, just not as a single. So I know all about respect. Maybe it was because I was a new face up here. By the way, I did end up meeting some cool couples that night.
  4. I have recently attended swingers meets (as a single male) where only a few selective single males were invited. We were asked to pay 70 bucks to enter when a couple was $30 and single female $10. Oh, did I mention that we had to wear glowing armbands? And could only approach a female with a glowing armband, unless otherwise invited to join? What got me was the part where four single females came in, and not one had an armband. So tell me... what the hell did I pay 70 bucks for? To me its a rip off. I think that if females come without a male then they should be fair game for everyone, just as the men should. No is No... and if there is only a selected single males then where would there be a problem? The bottom line is these meets don't want single males to be involved for some reason. Hell, I've gotten laid a lot cheaper than what I paid to get into the meet, and that included dinner, driving, and the whole nine yards lol. Granted, it is not all about if you get laid or not, it is about meeting people and having fun... If they pay that much to get in, should single males not be treated equal as everyone else? Should they not have the right to have fun as everyone else? But really why does it cost so much for a single male to attend? Granted I just moved up the Maryville, TN area recently, but I wouldn't waste my money to attend another one... with or without a date... I think that next time... I'll just throw a house party and everyone can have fun!!!
  5. The wifey and I were married 3 months after we met. LOL I understand where everyone is coming from. We just don't understand "poly". Our big question is how to you spend time with some, and not have an emotional attachment, after some time? Granted, we originally got into this for just "sex", but what we found were two great people that we can relate to, and it has turned into so much more. Which I feel is great. When I say that we can talk to them, we do, and it is nothing like the wife and I talk but it is different. Kinda like you would talk to your best friend. All we know is that we have found a couple that we enjoy spending time with, and the feelings are mutual, between us and them. Granted we do live 45 min away from each other, which I think is a good thing. But the chats are great and so is the company. Yes, we have stepped back and tried to look at things from afar. And we only hope that things get better.
  6. Sorry for the confusion, your right, it is plain to us, but when putting them in print... it is a whole different ball game...lol "This" is what I call the Emotional side, or in other terms to some one it can be "poly". In other words we are thinking about emotions... having them involved in the relationship. Yes, we are involved "swing" with the other couple. How do you separate your emotions from the relationship? What if it can't be helped? How do you express your feeling/emotions to the other couple? I am pretty sure of what she is feeling/thinking, just by the way she acts with me. I guess you can say this is more about me than my wife, but she is cool with it... o how do we talk to the other couple about it?? Without scaring them off? What if we/I have misread everything. This is a very close friendship and we don't want to do anything that might drive them away from us. Hey, this is Mrs CJ... I know that it is hard to put it into context, but I know that I do deny him (Mr CJ) the "Teddy Bear" part of romance. I have never been the romantic type, and he is a very emotional person. I do not have a problem with him being emotional attached with her. I enjoy knowing that he is enjoying his self, even though he would rather it be me, but I'm just not that kinda of person. I have seen the two of them together, and they are just living it up, and they enjoy every moment that they have together. It is a mutual thing between he two of them. They are some much alike that it is funny. They can sit and talk all night ( not to mention the other things that they do all night ) and you would think that they were a couple, not him and I... LOL , I know where his heart is and all his love, So I have nothing to worry about with them two... What I am worried about, is her husband... Yes, I have a small emotional attachment, but it is so very different. I really enjoy being with him, he touches me in away that I can't describe and granted I am able to do things that I enjoy when it come to sex (my husband is very well endowed) and I am able to enjoy sex again without any pain, or discomfort. It really only came to light what the problem was (with me and my husband) when we started swinging. But back to the point... What if them two do get emotional attached, and Her husband has a problem with it... granted they have been in the lifestyle for about 6 years, and was with one couple for over 3 years of that. Now, we are the only couple that they see, and they are the only ones that we see... I know my husband, and the way that he is, I know that He will not be able to help it. I find that he is very unique in that sense, and If I were the romantic type, I would not have to look beyond him to be swept off my feet (again) with flowers, romantic dinner or a night of passion. Yes the husband (Mr CJ) and I have talked a lot about this... I just want him to be his self and have fun, and Yes I know that with the time that we all have been spending together that His and Her emotions, if not already involved will be. He just has that kind of effect on a women. But how do we all talk about emotions without the fear of losing them as friends and lovers??? Do we not say anything and just let it play out? Do we say something to them??? We are new at this, and no its not because we are new that we are posting this. We have truly found a long lasting friendship with this couple.... SO WHAT WOULD YOU DO?????? Mrs. CJ
  7. How do you keep your emotions away or out of the lifestyle? We have hooked up with a great couple, and after several long weekends together, we have pretty much decided that neither us or them are available in the market. After reading some replies to some of our other post, the wife and I have talk about the "Polyamory", and we have agreed that when you spend a lot of time with a couple, it can not be helped that you have feelings for the other couple. We both get excited thinking about the next meeting, and if we are having a bad day, a simple phone call will completely turn it around. Granted the wife and him are a lot alike and so is his wife and I. We (his wife and I) are emotional by nature, we love to cuddle, hold hands, kiss, and just enjoy each others company... plus we can talk about anything and everything. The wife and him, on the other hand are just the opposite of us... The are not much of the emotional type, and are pretty much out to have fun. The wife already told me that it is not going to be able to be helped, just knowing me and his wife, and even though she hasn't bluntly admitted it, she has tied her emotions in it as well... if fact I pointed out a few things to her that I have seen, and she did agree with me, and that she had not realized it. We are cool with this, and think that it is great. We both know that we could not possibly jeopardize our relationship, because there is no way that with the wife and him, and me and his wife, could possibly live together because we are so much alike. But we are using this to fill in for what we might be missing with each other. When i say that, there are somethings that I really enjoy, that the wife might not or that she just hates, but would just to satisfy me, and vice versa. But this away, we can still have our desires filled with out the thought that "she/I is just doing this for me" if that make since. Oh, when we go out to eat, it is not the wife sitting next to me, but his wife, and the same way in a vehicle. If he's driving my wife is up front, and vice versa. There were somethings that happened this past weekend that kinda prove our relationship with them. I was out at the campfire, watching it snow a little, and just sitting back enjoying a beer and the scenery, relaxing with a blanket on a bench. They had walked in to the RV, about 5 min before. When all of a sudden his wife coming running out, to see what was wrong. The wife had said that I had thought about heading back, my wife told me later that she had never seen her move so fast... one reason that I had actually thought about going a back was... and I understand that she can't help this, because she had a large part of her female organ removed not to terribly long ago, she was moody, not toward me but with him, and that they were had several disagreements, that I thought that we could be the cause of it, but we weren't it, was her hormones. But she told me with a small tear in her eyes that she didn't want to loose our friendship, or have anything change between the four of us, because of her mood swings. We look back at that night and the wife and I agree that it really wasn't a problem after all, just a little over reaction on our part. But, in some sense I feel that we found out a lot from that little incident. SO, yes emotions are flying everywhere. We have not talked to them about this yet, but I plan on bringing it up, on a four day trip that we have planned with them down on the coast. Or at least talk to his wife about it. We have such a great friendship, but we are kinda iffy about bringing this up to them. All the signs are there, but how do you decipher them??? What should we do??? They/we are something that each have been searching for a long time. Any advice, would be great.... We are fine with this and feel that it has already brought us so much closer to each other. No we are not looking for a Poly relationship, but at the same time, we are not going to try to avoid it, if that is where it is leading. We only hope that it will continue to bring us closer to each other. CJ and Mrs CJ
  8. Hey, we weren't sure were to post this, but since we are new to it I just thought that I would post it here. Alright, everything is going GRRREAT!!! It kinda like having a new toy!!! Can't wait to play again..lol Well for the past 2 weeks, everything has just fell into place. Its weird, because we are so much alike. We are all very open and we all communicate, which I think makes things that much better. Lets start with me and T. We both have a very strong sex drive and we are very much attracted to each other, both sexually and I guess you caould say friendshipwise... we both enjoy our time together, and we talk very well, almost better than the wife and I. We have a strong connection between us. The wife and G, are pretty much alike as well, that have s good connection between them, and pretty much see eye to eye in the bedroom. We talk to them on a daily bases and we are planning a long weekend away, this weekend. Both of us (couples) have become closer with our own spouses, and we have spent good quaility time with each other. I could be wrong, but I believe that this is what the "lifestyle" is all about. Too bring esch other closer. We have found out that, we can have fun and still have each other, in and out of the bedroom... which we have also learned alot about that as well. Some of the things that my wife may not enjoy with me (I am very Blessed down there) she can enjoy now, without the pain, and without being wore out. The same is true with me, I have found someone who is just as crazy as I am, and since we have the same drive, we can go 5-6 times longer than we could with our own spouses, there for we can get the most enjoyment out of it, before return to our spouses. Neither couple has had one complaint, granted we are still in the learning phase, and that we take time... I think that the wife summed it up pretty good the other day... it kinda like dating, in high school ( but with out the jealousy), you meet someone and everything clicks and you can wait until you see them again. That about what it feels like. The wife and I just celebrated our 8 years of marriage yesterday, and we are closer now than we have ever been and we found out how much we are still in love with each other. We believe that this was one of the best choices that we have ever made together, and we are hoping that this turns out to be a very long lasting freindship with the other couple. By the way, snd this is a mutual thought... us and them... we are no longer looking for anyone to play. Thats how well everything is going.... CJ
  9. We never really thought that we'd enjoy beginning around this couple as much as we do. It is great that we have found a couple thay everything "CLICKS" with. We now have had 3 full swaps with them, and each time everything has gotten better, and more relaxing. We are off to what we think is a great and wonderful friendship... CJ
  10. Hey, I haven't noticed any problems, and I sure don't fore see any problems developing. So hopefully there will not Be any problems!!!
  11. Not sure where I should start from... G and T are a str8 couple as are we... OK, we have broke into NEW territory. We were to met up with G and T Saturday night, but it was late, like 10pm, before we got to there house, because of work. The plans were to sit around drink a few beers and get to know each other, and just talk and have a good time. Nothing had prepared us for what we were about to step into. Well as most may know, Tuesday T had surgery, and therfor the reason to met at there house. Well shes up there in the bedroom, where she has been all week, so not much thought was put into the idea that we would be sitting up the in the bed room all night. It made sense to us. Since she wasn't supose to be climbing down the 18 stairs. So here we all are, me and my wife, along with T sitting on the bed, while her husband G is sitting in the chair next to the bed. Granted, this is our first meeting, but we have so much in common that we felt like we've known each other for years. We have chatted and talked on the phone, and we have even made plans for dinner on night, so saturday when G invited us over, we thought that this would be just a casual house call, more less just to drink a few beers, and chit chat. Well, those few beers turned in to a case, and beforewe knew it it was already like 3am. My orginal plans were to drink a beer or 2, but here I am siping on #8 (it could have been #10). Hell, I still haven't even gotten a good buzz going, but i think that was because of nerves and nothing else. Anyway, the wife doesn't drink beer so shes been sipping on some Coolers or something like that. Well, anyway with the beers that were consumed by me and the drinks that the wife had, G said "look no point in taking a chance driving home (40 minutes away), that we should just stay there." Well, he was right and we should not drive, wether I'm buzzing or not. It just isn't safe. They have a huge bed, easily all four of us had plenty of room. (we could have added two more couple to it, it was that big). Well as soon as the light went out...Things got really interesting.... First, here's the lay out... T, me, my wife , and G, so we are in the middle. we didn't give much thought of stripping down to our underwear, I mean hell we were going to go to sleep, considering that we had to be 380 miles away at 1pm that afternoon, plus don't play alone, and since T just had surgery, she wasn't supose to play for at least 3-6 weeks. Boy were we wrong... As soon as the covers were pulled up, I felt something strange, T was completely nude, not to mention that she had just grabbed a handful of my manly hood and was rubbing it up against her privates...OMG!! The wife and I have not spoken of how we would handle this, it was never contimplated, I mean this was our first meeting. and here we are drinking the night away and all 4 of us laid up in bed. The wife and I had spoken of the what if's, and that was supose to be weeks down the road. OMG!!! is this happening Now??? about that time I set up to make some adjustment about the same time the wife sat up, we looked at each other and off came our clothes, and with a quick kiss to each other, we quickly returned to our postitions, and followed there lead... The night was unbelievable, and shocking as well, for over 2 hours we had sex, but unlike other times, this was not with each other, but with the other couple. It was a great feeling. We had to be up and out by about 6:30 to get home and get ready to hit the road. so finally about 5:30 we all were fast asleep, with the wife and I holding each other in the middle of them. It was a great feeling. Well after a short 30 min. nap, we had to head home.. and boy was it a long drive... the wife and I said very few words for about the first 10-15 minutes. I thought that she was mad and she thought that I was mad, But finally I had to see what her thought were, and we started talking, and the more we talked the more excited that we got. When we finally got home, we jumped in the shower and made love to each other. The trip that day was very peaceful and we talk about our exp. the whole time, what we enjoyed, what we didn't if there was any, but luckily there wasn't... but all in all to sum it up.... We are heading back over to there place again Saturday night. We (both couples) have talked all week long, and we are enjoying what looks like to be a long lasting relationship and a start to a great friendship. CJ PS... we have talked with G and T several times since then, and we have found out that this was the first time that they had ever "hooked up" on the first meeting. It would normally take several meeting for it to happen. But like we said, everything, and I mean everything Just clicked... The males were attracted the females, and the females were attracted to the males. So it all worked out for the good.... Can't wait til next time..
  12. alrighty... gonna have to start a new thread after tonight... "easier than we thought"
  13. We did talk about "what if its not for us", and M and T were worried that if it wasn't how would it affect our friendship. Truthfully, its wouldn't be a blame game, we are all adults and it take 2 to tango, 4 in this case' but we understand that we would never know, until we tried it. We were also told that maybe it would be better to try to find a couple that wasn't a friend, but maybe someone from out of town or something, but I believe that we would not be comfortable with that, not knowing the other couple, and just not comfortable. We are very comfortable around M and T, and we have already agreed that whatever happens happens, if it wasn't "for us", than we'd let them know, and without any hard feelings, and maintain our friendship. Which to both of us, is more important that the sex. Granted, I may look at his wife different, and he may look at mine, but we I strongly believe that we can pull through it with out any problems, with my wife and with them. That's also another reason that we have decided to start soft. We should be able to find out if it "is" or if it "isn't" by doing a soft swap. or hopefully we should be able to tell. I also see that there is no taking back of what we do. We do it as a couple, and therefor there should not be a "finger pointing". Also, if one person in our group, isn't ready, we will not proceed.it will be ALL or none. in other words, we all play, or no one plays. We have already est. a good truthful, open and straight forward relationship, the same as the wife and I have. we have a really fun and enjoyable time when were all together. So I am really hoping that there will be "ZERO" problems.
  14. alright, new developments... Lunch today.. My wife went with T, for some girlie talk, and later on I went with M, just to BS a little. First time to actually sit down and talk about it (with them-girl/girl guy/guy)and I found out a lot of info, and then more later tonight from my wife. Here the scoop, they have never been with a straight couple, only ones with bi females, (and they have had some bad exp. in the past.), any way T is really only it it for the women, and has some very horrific experiences with some other men, so she is kinda "iffy" about a full swap, she told my wife that she thought that it might hurt my feelings, if she didn't. I look at things this away, if shes not comfortable with it, that fine, we all need to be in agreement, and we should not pursue it, until she is alright with. So we told her that if it were to happen, a full swap, than she is to make the first move.The wife and I pretty much decided to give it a shot, so therefor it will not be a problem. I think that M and I decide to just start with a soft swap, and see how things go, which I believe is the best way to start. But that's where we will all stumble, T usually starts with the other female, but my wife isn't bi , so we have to find a another way to start. ANY suggestions??? also, this Saturday, we are going to B'ham for a show (work related) and they are going with us, so after we are going to go eat, and that's where we will actually sit down face to face and get everything out on the table. Like I said in previous post, we are already good friends, and we get together and have dinner and maybe watch a movie, but we basically talk about things over "Chat" on the computer. The wife and I, and M and T, we will only talk about it TOGETHER. so if one is not there we will not chat about it. Since we are getting closer... does anyone have any pointers? or can anyone think of any thing that might blind side us? I want this to be a good experience for both parties.
  15. Hey, sorry I haven't posted lately... We are still talking and pretty much everything looks great. We speak with M and T about every night. But as I've said they are great friends. We went over to their place last night for dinner and a movie, after we closed the store, not much was spoken about it, but then again last night was just a night out with our buddies, a little R&R. Our week had been really busy and so was theirs, plus they had there 3 y/o son there. Before I forget, the wife and I own our own business, so sometimes things are crazy, we are open 7 days a week, so we actually stay tired al ot, and we're not at home that often, just during the evening hours. We are somewhat making plans to get together Saturday. I'll keep you posted.
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