How does Viagra, Cialis, et al. affect you?

Just wondering, how do you feel physically after taking the med? How much time does it take to go into effect? How long does it last? Is there more ejaculate?

The way you feel and the effects are going to vary somewhat from person to person and with each type. Cialis lasts much longer than Viagra for instance.

I have only used Cialis and found it quite effective. I have a bit of a flush feeling, and feel a bit hot, which is not bad once naked. I stay soft unless there is a reason to get hard, but it is much easier. It takes longer to cum, which is not a bad thing. Recharge time is about what it normally is for me (15 min) but getting going again takes less stimulation.

Basically, I find that the Cialis counteracts normal anxiety stuff. I only take it for house parties. With just one other couple, it is less of a big deal.

NWAtlSwing said:

The way you feel and the effects are going to vary somewhat from person to person and with each type. Cialis lasts much longer than Viagra for instance.

 

I have only used Cialis and found it quite effective. I have a bit of a flush feeling, and feel a bit hot, which is not bad once naked. I stay soft unless there is a reason to get hard, but it is much easier. It takes longer to cum, which is not a bad thing. Recharge time is about what it normally is for me (15 min) but getting going again takes less stimulation.

 

Basically, I find that the Cialis counteracts normal anxiety stuff. I only take it for house parties. With just one other couple, it is less of a big deal.

Thanks. Interesting that Cialis counteracts anxiety; hadn't even considered that. Added benefit.

Thanks. Interesting that Cialis counteracts anxiety;hadn't even considered that. Added benefit.

Well it is not an anti-anxiety med, but it stops me from having performance problems due to anxiety I should say. When it is time to get it up, it happens.

The way you feel and the effects are going to vary somewhat from person to person and with each type. Cialis lasts much longer than Viagra for instance.

 

I have only used Cialis and found it quite effective. I have a bit of a flush feeling, and feel a bit hot, which is not bad once naked. I stay soft unless there is a reason to get hard, but it is much easier. It takes longer to cum, which is not a bad thing. Recharge time is about what it normally is for me (15 min) but getting going again takes less stimulation.

 

Basically, I find that the Cialis counteracts normal anxiety stuff. I only take it for house parties. With just one other couple, it is less of a big deal.

Did you suffer from a stuffy nose or any nasal congestion with the compound? A couple years ago, I took a Viagra to see how it would work. It worked just like you have described the Cialis. However, it felt like I had a head cold for about 2 - 3 hours.

If the need for such a compound were to come about, I would rather not sound like I have a cold.

Did you suffer from a stuffy nose or any nasal congestion with the compound? A couple years ago, I took a Viagra to see how it would work. It worked just like you have described the Cialis. However, it felt like I had a head cold for about 2 - 3 hours.

 

If the need for such a compound were to come about, I would rather not sound like I have a cold.

I have had a hint of stuffy nose, but not anything serious and I stop noticing that once I party.

The first time I used it, I did get a back-ache the next day, which can be a side effect, though, considering the night before I was on my arms so much they were shaky, it is hard to tell. I know it lasts 36 hours, so the one risk of Cialis that I see is if you have a reaction it hangs with you.

On the other hand, I have heard the longer lasting effect of Cialis is less intense up front than Viagra. Having not done both it is hard to compare, and since this has worked, I have not risked anything else.

I have had a hint of stuffy nose, but not anything serious and I stop noticing that once I party.

 

The first time I used it, I did get a back-ache the next day, which can be a side effect, though, considering the night before I was on my arms so much they were shaky, it is hard to tell. I know it lasts 36 hours, so the one risk of Cialis that I see is if you have a reaction it hangs with you.

 

On the other hand, I have heard the longer lasting effect of Cialis is less intense up front than Viagra. Having not done both it is hard to compare, and since this has worked, I have not risked anything else.

Thanks! That is quite a difference from what I experienced. And I think the lasing aspect of it would be a bonus as well! Wait! By lasting, you mean to say that the erection ability lasts as well? I guess I should read up on the stuff.

What I dont want is that nasty stuffed up feeling that basically lasted the entire night and a good portion of the day with Viagra! Really, I sounded like I had a bad cold. It was horrible. so much so, I doubt I will take it again.

Thanks! That is quite a difference from what I experienced. And I think the lasing aspect of it would be a bonus as well! Wait! By lasting, you mean to say that the erection ability lasts as well? I guess I should read up on the stuff.

 

What I dont want is that nasty stuffed up feeling that basically lasted the entire night and a good portion of the day with Viagra! Really, I sounded like I had a bad cold. It was horrible. so much so, I doubt I will take it again.

By lasting I mean I can stay hard easier longer for a day and a half without a lot of side effect. Though, to be sure, the night after a big party, my wife is not interested in any more action so it is a bit of a waste.

NWAtlSwing said:

By lasting I mean I can stay hard easier longer for a day and a half without a lot of side effect. Though, to be sure, the night after a big party, my wife is not interested in any more action so it is a bit of a waste.

The Viagra I took didn't last that long. Thanks for the info. I'll have to check it out sometime!

Okay, so I have used both Viagra and Cialis. I tried the Viagra first and absolutely hated it. It hits you like a freight train. I felt light headed, I had the flush feeling and generally just felt 'jacked' up from it. The doctor I visited told me that the Levitra is the worst, followed by Viagra then Cialis on the hard to mild scale.

I then tried the 3 day Cialis. Night and day experience between the two. The Cialis gives me no side effects except a light case of sinus congestion on day two which is acceptable because it's very light. It works incredibly well and unlike NWAtlSwing, I don't feel like I'm even on a medication at all. Everyone is different though so keep that in mind but I absolutely love it.

I have never had any issues with performance and I still don't believe that I have any real 'issues' but I do get distracted easily by the bed rocking from my wife and the other guy so it can be an interruption. I'm very into oral and usually my wife and the other guy has moved on to screwing a good 10 minutes before me so that is where it's good to have the Cialis on board.

It doesn't affect the time it takes me to cum at all. It really has no impact on me at all other than that when I think something sexy my equipment responds promptly - yahoo! The psychological effect is a huge boost to my confidence knowing that I'm NOT going to be sitting there trying to get it hard enough for penetration.

Here is the kicker, every couple we have swung with has all had performance anxiety to some extent, every one of them. Two to the point that there was very little sex for my wife. I had performance anxiety on our very first couples experience, the couple we swung with was who gave me my first Viagra (yes, I know, don't take medication that isn't yours) but the point was, I was exposed to it very early and so I'm like, why take any chances that I'm going to disappoint?

I have heard similar stories to DiggnIt, with Viagra hitting hard like that.

I think I have posted this here before, but I can't remember where. I have tried all three, Viagra, Levitra, and Cialis. Levitra, for me at least, had all of the side effects of Viagra, but didn't work anywhere near as good, or not at all. Cialis works for a long time (about 3 days for me), but doesn't give me those "18 year old teenager" erections like Viagra does. Also, with Cialis it says in the directions not to drink alcohol, heed that or be sorry. Turns out if you drink while Cialis is in your system you get a killer backache that lasts for a couple of days, starting about a day after the Cialis wears off. Viagra works the best for me as far as performance goes, the erections are both better and more reliable than with the other two. Unfortunately, the price for that is the flu like symptoms and headache you get with it. I will have to say though that, for me at least, the side effects of Viagra are fairly short lived, and if I take a decongestant, hardly noticeable. The only other thing I have to recommend is that if you take any of them right after eating a big steak dinner, you get all the unpleasant side effects and it doesn't work at all. It seems that fatty foods eaten within about 4 hours before taking any of these totally negates their positive effects. I generally like to take them about 45 minutes before I eat anything.

For me, Viagra by far has the most beneficial effects, I get a hard-on that I could chop wood with. Whereas, with Cialis, the erection is more reliable than normal under stress, but it is just a regular erection, not the king sized one I get with Viagra. As I said before, I could never get Levitra to work at all. Viagra is harder to schedule though, it starts working about 30-60 minutes after you take it, and the reliability of it drops off after 4-5 hours. Couple that with having to take it before you eat, and scheduling can be a problem. The morning wood the next day with Viagra is something to behold though, I just wish their was a woman around my house that liked "morning sex" when that happens.

The first time I used it, I did get a back-ache the next day,

On the other hand, I have heard the longer lasting effect of Cialis is less intense up front than Viagra.

This was maybe owing to the fact that, out of a sense of scientific curiosity, you tested the endurance of the drug by servicing as many women as possible?

I think that was part of it, yes.

My insurance covers my cost, can you believe that !!

I have not had a problem with the backache. I have drunk like a fish on the Cialis. Never had an issue yet in about 5 months. I don't drink like a fish when I play but there has been many times where I took it on Friday, played, hung out and drank all day Saturday, football, barbecue, etc... never had an issue yet.

Yes, it works all three days, I have definitely put it through the test and it's funny because you can tell how well its assisting from day 1 through day 3.

As a side note, yes, amazing morning wood the day after the Viagra.

I am thinking about getting cialis due to the seemingly better ease of control but what is with the backache problem?

Have a further question. What about the warning about a woody for over 4 hours and call a doctor. Is this a problem with all these drugs really or is it just another lawyer clause.

So, the backache, I didn't have it but NWAtlSwing did so I think it will have to be something you find out for yourself.

The 4+ hour woody. That is a very bad thing. Basically, it's like a reaction to the drug. I was told that if it happened to run to the store and get the old school Sudafed, the kind with the Pseudoephedrine and that would fix the issue and stop taking it.

Its called a "priapism". This should scare the shit out of you:

"Potential complications include ischemia, clotting of the blood retained in the penis (thrombosis), and damage to the blood vessels of the penis which may result in an impaired erectile function or impotence. In serious cases, the ischemia may result in gangrene, which could necessitate penis removal."

I guess the reverse is that if everything works fine then you should probably stay off the Pseudoephedrine if you want to play because it will probably kill all of the effects of the med.

I only had it the one time.

If the erection lasts too long, the chambers that fill and blow out and then you are done getting it up thereafter. They really mean goto the ER if that happens.

I am thinking about getting cialis due to the seemingly better ease of control but what is with the backache problem?

The backache problem is why I only use Cialis for special occasions like when we have a long weekend of play planned or something. I will try to explain it, but I am not a doctor, don't play one on tv, and didn't spend the night in a Holiday in.

My doctor tried to explain it to me, but I may get it wrong, so if any of the doctor types around here can chime in and correct me, have at it.

My doctor was hesitant to give me Cialis because he said it is hard on, the kidney's (I think). Anyway, he said that something designed to stay in the system that long is pretty hard on the organs that filter these chemicals out of your system. Apparently, the strain on those same organs will sometimes manifest itself by causing a severe backache. According to my doctor, drinking also strains those same organs, so you do both together and the strain is worse. Anyway, all I can say for sure is that the backache for me was miserable, so if I take Cialis, I don't drink at all. I still usually get a mild backache, but it is nothing like when I drank alcohol too.

I will also agree that I only use the Cialis when I'm planning on playing. You can also get the once a day Cialis or you can get the 3 day and break it in half which many people claims still works great.

I break mine into thirds and it works well enough. There is a slightly diminished effect and it doesn't last for 3 days but it sure stretches the cost out.

Went to the doc this week and got a scrip for Viagra and my doc said to take some Tylenol with it to alleviate the headache issue.

Funny, my doc told me Levitra was the one with the least severe side effects. I cut them in half and they work great for a night of partying. I sometimes get a hint of a stuffy nose but that's about it. The drug totally alleviates the performance anxiety component of playing with a new couple (with alcohol usually in the mix too), which is why I got them. When it's time, everything just works, no matter how much you've had to drink or how tired you are. Truly a miracle drug.

I haven't tried the other 2 so I don't have any basis of comparison, but I'm happy with what I got. At $17 a pill it's not something you're going to pop every night with the wife but $8.50 to make sure a night with new friends goes smoothly is money well spent.

Oh and if you're a young guy like me (34) don't be afraid to go to the doc. Make up whatever story you like. I told them I work 90 hours a week (more like 30 ha!) and the wife is wanting more than my fatigued body could manage, whatever, they've heard it all before. They'll do a blood test to make sure you don't have a condition that would preclude you from taking the drug, and then you're happily sent on your way, in my case with some free samples. That was a fun weekend let me tell you.

I may be headed for the kidney/liver transplant line but goddammit I'm going to have a lot of fun getting there. I won't need those things when I'm dead anyway.

Boris

This thread is really interesting.

Viagra in my experience is more for a quick burst of activity and put away the dagger so to speak, when the dragon is gone, while Cialis is more subtle and more for generally being in "the mood"

otoh, it seems that most people who try both prefer Cialis.

I will say that I like taking the Cialis anytime I want and not worrying about having to take it on an empty stomach or taking it too close to a meal that it might screw up my night.

In my case, Levitra has the least side effects, followed by Cialis and Viagra, in that order.

I usually cut a 20mg pill in quarters (or even sixths), and with one of those bits I feel like I'm 20 years old again. No problem drinking, no stuffiness. Maybe some flushing, but that usually just makes me look like I'm turned on, which I am, all the time .

Just wondering, how do you feel physically after taking the med? How much time does it take to go into effect? How long does it last? Is there more ejaculate?

I've never taken any of the meds, but I wonder about the Cialis and anti-anxiety effects.... seems like a good thing....

Here's another take... we've got a lot of male folks in the lifestyle that are there because the Mr. is experiencing meds/physical issues that make the Mrs.'s physical experience less than stellar. No problem there... just makes good sense.

However, I have a bit less understanding of other folks. First, let me tell you that as a child I had a zillion shots. Little sniffle? Penicillin in the ass... Another sniffle? Aureomycin in the ass.... So, shots..... euehghguehghe.... shuddering....

So, local party host sticks himself with the needle in the penis and has a short hairy telephone pole.... my understanding of this is that it just gets hard, but doesn't cum.....

I want to do this............................. why?

I recently had experienced some performance issues, more than in the past,so I decided to try some chemical help! It's hard to get into to see the doctor quickly on a non-emergency basis so I obtained the pills online, just to give them a try. They did appear to be real, all of the right marks etc. It was not cheap, $60 for 4 100mg pills.

Typical dose seems to be 50mg so I tried a 1/4 pill the first time. It did have a good effect and no apparent side effects. At a recent party I used 1/2 (50mg). I got hard and stayed hard for quite awhile as there was alot of foreplay type things. When it came time for intercourse with a condom, no issues staying hard. No apparent side effects again.

I had no difficulty cumming, well no more than usual with a condom. It did not appear to increase the amount of ejaculate.

I am due to visit doctor for a 50,000 mile checkup so I will request a prescription at that point.

I am due to visit doctor for a 50,000 mile checkup so I will request a prescription at that point.

Regular price, by the way, for six Viagra is $135. The pharmacist did some kind of magic with the paperwork to make it look like I had to have it to stay alive. Then it cost only $35.

SW_PA_Couple said:

Regular price, by the way, for six Viagra is $135. The pharmacist did some kind of magic with the paperwork to make it look like I had to have it to stay alive. Then it cost only $35.

You don't need it to stay alive, you need it to "live."

I would like to know how the pharmacist did that!

You're being "taken".

Which is screwed up, anyway. $135/6 = $22 per tablet. $6/tablet is common. So the pharmacist gave you a very inflated first price, trying to win your good will.

$35/6 = $5.83, which is a bit above the wholesale price of $4/tablet. That's a good price for retail.

Never believe what a store tells you when they quote savings. The real price is what most people are actually paying, not what the stores are asking.

You're being "taken".

 

Which is screwed up, anyway. $135/6 = $22 per tablet. $6/tablet is common. So the pharmacist gave you a very inflated first price, trying to win your good will.

 

$35/6 = $5.83, which is a bit above the wholesale price of $4/tablet. That's a good price for retail.

 

Never believe what a store tells you when they quote savings. The real price is what most people are actually paying, not what the stores are asking.

I'm not sure where you are getting your prices unless you are looking at prescription prices?

Many insurance companies won't even cover PDE5 Inhibitors which I'm sure is what SW_PA_Couple was quoting - a non prescription price.

The average cost without insurance in a US Pharmacy is $18-22 per pill ($22.50 at CVS for example) and there are no Generics available until the Patent time period expires for new to market prescriptions. Viagra's for instance, doesn't expire until March 27, 2012.

Even with prescriptions, using myself as an example, BCBS PPO RX plan only allows for 6 pills in a 30 day window for 36 hour Cialis and runs me $40.00 on their plan because it's name brand. I don't know how many they allow of the daily use version.

All the pharmacist probably did was give him the price his insurance would have paid, should they have chosen to honor his claim. Almost all insurance company negotiated prices are similar, so the pharmacist could also have just given him the pharmacy's "insured" price.

Many insurance plans, even if they won't pay for a specific prescription itself, will still allow (or even require) the pharmacy to give a plan member the plan negotiated price.

The wholesale price is what the Indianapolis Star said (a while back) was information from the manufacture. Lilly, who makes Cialis, is headquartered there.

The prices negotiated by insurance companies represent a fair exchange. If those were too low, the pharmacies would not make enough money to stay in business. Everything past that point is just gravy.

A local Walgreen's manager was quoted in the paper a while back saying that by far the largest portion of their profit comes from the pharmacy part of the store, and that the majority of customers had some sort of insurance or other prescription plan.

Pharmacies, as well as hospitals and most others in the medical profession, deal with passive, uneducated customers who are often in a situation where they can not take time to shop. These providers take advantage of this by trying to get extremely high "list" prices.

Not to get too political, but no industry comes close to health care for the extreme range of prices charged for identical services from the same provider.

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Even with prescriptions, using myself as an example, BCBS PPO RX plan only allows for 6 pills in a 30 day window for 36 hour Cialis and runs me $40.00 on their plan because it's name brand. I don't know how many they allow of the daily use version.

Eventually, your plan will probably end up covering 24 daily tabs per month. The cost to them is about the same, so that's where they are converging.

Remember,

1. Insurance doesn't want to pay, and will delay scheduling a drug as long as possible. So check often and have your company hassle the insurance company.

2. The best deal may be to have your doctor write for 20mg tablets and then split them into sixths or eighths.

3. Prescription medicine is almost always priced by dose, not quantity of active ingredient. The price difference between the strongest and weakest tablet is maybe 20%, even when the strongest tablet is 20 or even 50 times more potent.

What's interesting here is Lilly's decision to significantly lower the per dose price of Cialis daily to make it competitive with the standard dosing.

Very interesting reading. I met my quota for learning something new today.

I would imagine though that you would have better chance at a small or family owned pharmacy versus a CVS or Walgreens for getting your prices reduced. With all of the profit going to the store and as greedy as most corporations are it would be probably be frowned upon if their pharmacist was always giving away the farm, so to speak.

I've used bootleg viagra from India. Buy the 100mg and split into fourths. The cost is less than $2 per pill, $0.50 per dose.

hughb said:

I've used bootleg viagra from India.

Is it true Viagra or a reformulation? The one I received has all the proper markings of Viagra, came from France.

All the pharmacist probably did was give him the price his insurance would have paid, should they have chosen to honor his claim. Almost all insurance company negotiated prices are similar, so the pharmacist could also have just given him the pharmacy's "insured" price.

Is it true viagra or a reformulation? The one I received has all the proper markings of Viagra, came from France.

I believe Pfizer manufactures Viagra in France, and even imports their US supply from there. Odds are in your favor for having the real Pfizer made thing.

(Also check the expiration date if you got an original container... There's dumping of product that is about to/has expire/d going on.)

But the pricing suggests possibly "gray" market. Companies sell the same drug in multiple counties at very different prices (as in all the traffic will bear), and gray marketers will buy in counties where they are cheap and (re-)import them back into countries where the manufacturer prices them higher.

Lots of pseudo legal problems are created by the drug companies for gray marketers. For example, they have customs seize shipments (sometimes as the pass in route through other countries) as "counterfeit" even while admitting that they did manufacturer the contents of the shipment.

Of course it eventually gets sorted out, but the drug companies get the shipment delayed -- sometimes years -- which cripples the gray market company. The drug companies really want law made so they can call any particular pill that left their factory "counterfeit" based on who has possession or where it is physically located.

India, China, and others are manufacturing the actual chemicals for lots of different drugs, and thumbing their noses at international patents.

Interesting story in the WSJ around Thursday 11 Feb 2010 about how India agrees to enforce patents in order to attract development, then finds 1st world patents "invalid" by holding them to an extremely high standard. The story uses drugs as examples.

Rest assured, Asia can and does make quality products with active ingredients exactly the same, just like a generic version of an expired patented drug. They just do it before the patent expires.

The inert ingredients, and the potency can be a problem. Dr. Ready seems to use bridge sweepings for filler (my personal prejudice -- all their products have given me indigestion). Many brands lose significant potency before reaching the consumer, and extended release often isn't.

These problems don't reflect the quality of the active ingredient as much as they do the formulation and handling. "Real stuff", both good and bad (as well as true counterfeits and deceptions), is coming from out of Asia -- it's just impossible to tell which is which before you buy.

And some of the "bad" "real" stuff shows up as store brands in the US. I wish everything was required to show manufacturer, factory, and date so consumers could get wise about which channels are which.

Lots of pseudo legal problems are created by the drug companies for gray marketers. For example, they have customs seize shipments (sometimes as the pass in route through other countries) as "counterfeit" even while admitting that they did manufacturer the contents of the shipment.

I take viagra and I just have the typical sniffy nose and occasional joint pain if I use it frequently. I can't say that the volume of my ejaculate is more, but I do last longer. My partner say that my cock is longer and thicker than when I don't use viagra. 

I am one of those ppl whom both Viagra and Cialis give a low-grade yet annoying headache within the first few hours after taking them. Since I prefer to not play with a headache I prefer Cialis. I have learned it works best for me if I literally eat it 8 hours or so before sex. After that I enjoy two - sometimes 3 - full days of quality erections.

Have any women here tried any of these medications?  I've read that they can have some beneficial effects for women. 

I don't have problems with desire or performance (I'm aroused, get wet, and cum easily and often) but am curious.  I don't use any drugs or drink.  If anything, I would say that sex is my drug, my hobby, so it would be interesting. 

58 minutes ago, couplers said:

Have any women here tried any of these medications?  I've read that they can have some beneficial effects for women. 

 

I don't have problems with desire or performance (I'm aroused, get wet, and cum easily and often) but am curious.  I don't use any drugs or drink.  If anything, I would say that sex is my drug, my hobby, so it would be interesting. 

Several years ago my wife’s and my PCP proactively (we hadn’t asked) warned against her using Viagra (which I use for recreational sex) as a libido enhancer. (Not that she had experienced any issues with her sex drive; even today, in her mid-70s, she likes to get fucked three or four times a week.) Our PCP said there was no evidence of an effect for women, and I’ve since seen similar conclusions in the popular press.

I’m aware there are treatments that make intercourse more comfortable for post-menopausal women, but to my knowledge there are no approved drugs that enhance libido. Pharma continues to search for that.

Never used any of them and never will unless I decide to stop taking care of myself and health goes down hill.  At 51 I have zero problem getting hard and staying hard for probably to long at times.  ED is a sign of heart issues and bad blood flow.  Things that can usually be taking care of with good diet and exercise.  Good health is worth putting the time into for everything including boners.

1 hour ago, enhancer said:

Never used any of them and never will unless I decide to stop taking care of myself and health goes down hill.  At 51 I have zero problem getting hard and staying hard for probably to long at times.  ED is a sign of heart issues and bad blood flow.  Things that can usually be taking care of with good diet and exercise.  Good health is worth putting the time into for everything including boners.

When we play with people our age (65), pretty much every male uses ED meds or needs it. 

3 hours ago, enhancer said:

Never used any of them and never will unless I decide to stop taking care of myself and health goes down hill.

Interesting post. The topic is "How does Viagra, Cialis, etc affect you?" and you chose to open the thread and post that you never used any of them. You then continue on in your post about how you're in such good shape that you get hard and stay hard for sometimes too long.

What's your point? The original OP wanted to know how those ED medications affected those on this board. How is your post addressing that? Did you just need to post about how wonderful you are? Seems strange.

To the original OP...all ED medications work in a similar fashion and have similar side effects (flush face, stuffy nose, etc). However, because they're slightly different, side effects vary a little. Low dose sildenafil (25mg) doesn't normally cause much in the way of side effects. What you eat/ate changes them slightly. My suggestion would be to try various medications and various doses. Start low for all of them. Your doctor can help you.

20 hours ago, PeterJ said:

Several years ago my wife’s and my PCP proactively (we hadn’t asked) warned against her using Viagra ...Our PCP said there was no evidence of an effect for women, and I’ve since seen similar conclusions in the popular press.

Thanks for the reply.  I am in my early 30s and was just curious, none of my guys even have it around.

20 hours ago, PeterJ said:

with her sex drive; even today, in her mid-70s, she likes to get fucked three or four times a week.

Wow, that's good.