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As Noobies, the idea of jumping into a full-swap scenario can be intimidating. In fact, we both grew up very conservative, so full-swap isn't even a consideration at this point. We've read a little about soft vs. full swap and even just 'same room'.

 

Is there a world though that includes 'swingers', nudists, and friends? Does it ever work out to have swinger friends that also just enjoy being naked and spending time with others like that? We're new so pardon us if the question is way out in left field.

 

We'd love to hear if others have persued something along those lines and how successful they were at obtaining it.

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It's always a possibility but I don't think you are going to have much luck finding that world. if all you really want is people you can feel comfortable hanging out with naked then you may want to focus your attention on the nudist community. There are a lot of swingers that are also nudists (or at least frequent nudist resorts), perhaps seeking out a swinger friendly nudist resort might be a good option.

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It's always a possibility but I don't think you are going to have much luck finding that world. if all you really want is people you can feel comfortable hanging out with naked then you may want to focus your attention on the nudist community. There are a lot of swingers that are also nudists (or at least frequent nudist resorts), perhaps seeking out a swinger friendly nudist resort might be a good option.

 

Dito, would suggest the nudist route as well.

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You sure can do that....we started out as just "nudists" then moved into swinging slowly..... We had no intention or thought of swinging when we first started...just kinda happened....of course your going to run into more of a swinging type crowd at a nudist resort.

 

My only advise would be to be up front with the other couples....dont pretend to be something you are not comfortable with..... If your not ready for sex...then say so up front.......

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As Noobies, the idea of jumping into a full-swap scenario can be intimidating. In fact, we both grew up very conservative, so full-swap isn't even a consideration at this point. We've read a little about soft vs. full swap and even just 'same room'.

 

Is there a world though that includes 'swingers', nudists, and friends? Does it ever work out to have swinger friends that also just enjoy being naked and spending time with others like that? We're new so pardon us if the question is way out in left field.

 

We'd love to hear if others have persued something along those lines and how successful they were at obtaining it.

 

Well I'm new and have yet to had my first experience. But it's gone from being a If to a when. And it's almost becomes a date on the calendar. With that in mind I can tell you in the beginning we were considering the possiblities of just being soft swap or same room. But as time when on we warmed up to the idea of full swap. And now that is basically what we are going to start out with now, because we simply felt ready for it.

 

So my advice is to keep in mind that as you ease into the lifestyle you too might feel more comfortable, and be willing to go further. And the only thing that'll tell you that is time and how you feel. We've come across a couple we think we just have great chemistry with and that makes all the difference in the world. facelick But I can tell you, a year ago my thoughts were much different.

 

Not quite the advice I think you were seeking, but I hope it relates a little.

 

-Mr. Truelove

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You can definately find friends in the lifestyle. MrVan and I are still "newbies" and have been doing this since January. When we got into the lifestyle we knew we what we wanted but not sure how comfortable with each stage of the lifestyle we would be and we also knew that we wanted to make friends and not just a notch on the headboard so to speak. We wanted to find those that we could hang out with in and out of the bed and become friends with. And we have been pretty lucky so far with everyone that we have met. :kissface: Yes some are still around and things are really great, we have also continued to meet new ones that we are also finding in them the same friendship's that we are looking for and with the benefits of the lifestyle. facelick

 

The only thing I can say is although you make friends in the lifestyle, keep in mind that their ideas of what they are looking for may be different or may change over time, and you just have to say to yourself "it just wasn't meant to be" and move on. We have encountered that already and it was a very hard thing for us to go through but with everyone's advise on the board we were able to have a better understanding.

 

As someone else mentioned on another post on this board, is to take baby steps. Find what your comfort level is starting out. If it isn't full swap just yet try doing soft swap and then once you feel more comfortable then work up to full swap. ;) Trust me, you find a good couple that can be patient and understanding of what your going through, it will all work out and the friendship will be one that you will remember for a very long time no matter what the outcome.

 

Good luck and keep us posted! You have come to the right place for the advise your looking for.

 

MrsVan

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We have been members of a nudist resort for about 7 years...so we are definately comfortable being nude in groups...only began swinging in this past year....but we do consider the 2 worlds separate due to the amount of non-swinger friendly nudists we happen to be friends with.....this I think is mostly due to being respectful.....just as we are with our non-nudist friends....when we feel everyone will be comfortable with the knowledge..we share.......but we absolutely cant be as open with some as we can with others....Chelle

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We appreciate everyone's feedback. It's not so much that we are looking for camps/ resorts/ colonies... We are more of an intimate group kind of couple. We'd really enjoy same-room play or soft-swapping, then all fall asleep in the same room and not be in a rush the next morning to get dressed just to have coffee. Is that just crazy??

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We just had a camp out for our club in Michigan. At night we all sat around naked in front of the camp fire. Some were doing things to others but some were also just sitting in their chairs and loungers naked and drinking. I rather enjoy just sitting around naked and also looking at and watching what is happening. I am a true voyeur at heart. Yes to answer you question, it is possible just to have frineds (naked) and all without swapping. It is a comforable feeling to just be able to sit and talk and just be friends.

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i think the nudist thing would by great for you and evryone starting out. It is a great ice breaker and a way into the lifestyle. We started swinging with a friend couple, kind of out of the blue. It started with playing adult oriented games and then grew more and more till we were swinging. It was a wounderful journey and a safe way in with out all the formalities of how people say it should go. I believe this is like any lifestyle, you have to go at your pace and comfort level, if you rush, you are looking for trouble. Believe me we are not only swingers but into the BDSM lifestyle as well, and that has been a real rollercoaster to get into, because people were telling us this is how it goes and that is it, it is only through talking to people one on one that the truth comes out, noone is the master of any of this, and to follow your own gut on what you want. That is the best way to go. That way there are no regretes. Also always communicate with your SO so that noone is feeling left out or building resentments. If something is too over the top for either then it ends

 

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Sometimes I don't know where my responses come from. Looking back at this thread it brings to mind something that I've thought of a lot lately...looking back at my first life as a swinger I feel I got really lucky multiple times. But, in one of those times we did manage to establish exactly what you are describing. We had a great group of friends that we did just this with. We played amongst the group some, but we could also all just hang out and run around the house naked and feel totally comfortable. So it is possible, but as I said in my original post it's also a rarity.

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I guess we got lucky too! Our (my) early experiences were with a couple we were friends with and progressed slowly from same room to eventually full swap. Then we fell in with a group of people that we have developed pretty good friendships with. Not all meetings end in swinging. It can be done, patience and flexability is the key.

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We also are members of a nudist resort (see our name) and both enjoy just sitting around without clothes.:eek: We just recently starting going to swing clubs and enjoying more activities in the swinging world. We keep our swinging experiences seperate from our nudist experiences. Even though we know several couples that are nudist and swing, swinging is not readily accepted in the nudist world. :nono: In fact a nudist resort in Florida had its charted revoked because their marketing director agreed to speak at Swingstock.

 

So if you enjoy relaxing and being nude, we would recommend starting with that. Then you can slowoy move into swinging. :fun:

 

We wish you all the best of luck.

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We have been nudist for 10 years and I agree that nudist reosrts are not the sexual playground some folks would imagine. There is little if any PDA in the public areas and horse play is a NO NO. That being said most resorts I have visited seem to have a small group of friends that get together after dark and party in the confines of their campsite or campers.

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We visit a local nude beach fairly often during the summer, and although we know that some of the other people visiting it are swingers (from online postings) , we've never seen any overt activity. If anybody's hooking up, it's very very discreet.

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One place we would suggest is a place like Desire. Last time we went, the crowd we ended up hanging with was made up of swingers and nudists...but nobody actually used any labels. It was pretty easy to pick up on who were swingers and who were nudists by the type of vibe they put out. Key is to avoid going during a takeover which tends to be a much more sexual crowd. As for us, we deliberately picked a takeover crowd for our return to Desire Cancun...lol!

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We appreciate everyone's feedback. It's not so much that we are looking for camps/ resorts/ colonies... We are more of an intimate group kind of couple. We'd really enjoy same-room play or soft-swapping, then all fall asleep in the same room and not be in a rush the next morning to get dressed just to have coffee. Is that just crazy??

I don't think it is crazy at all. In researching swinging lifestyles, one thing my wife and I have found time and time again is the need for respect of desires and boundaries. In fact, swingers seem to have a better handle on this than most of the rest of the world. My wife and I have both been involved in full swap in the past (before we knew each other). Now that we are together, we have settled into exactly what you and your husband are looking for. That is what makes US happy. Isn't that what sharing a swinging experience is all about? It is more difficult to find people with similar desires. But, it sure is fun when you do. Different strokes for different folks?

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One place we would suggest is a place like Desire. Last time we went, the crowd we ended up hanging with was made up of swingers and nudists...but nobody actually used any labels. It was pretty easy to pick up on who were swingers and who were nudists by the type of vibe they put out. Key is to avoid going during a takeover which tends to be a much more sexual crowd. As for us, we deliberately picked a takeover crowd for our return to Desire Cancun...lol!

 

We still very much consider ourselves newbies at this, but this technique has worked well for us. In fact, thus far it has been the ONLY way we have hooked up with other couples. It helps that we live only two hours from Sea Mountain in Palm Springs. The environment there is similar to Desire on a takeover week, but it is like that all the time. :D

 

We have made lots of very good friends there over the past year that we have been going, and have recently begun playing with some. But we have also played with couples that we just met that day and felt comfortable with.

 

Last Monday we returned from a week at Desire, with a non-takeover crowd, and were really bored with the "activity" level there. I think that even a non-swinging nudist would have felt somewhat bored as well because of so many people being dressed or only partially nude. Maybe we just went at a bad time. Or maybe, as I suspect, we have just gotten used to hanging out in a nude, openly sexually-charged atmosphere. :facelick:

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Going from prude to nude and then to swinging in gradual steps at your own pace is easy to do at Hedonism II in Jamaica. Try going during a Lifestyles week. Good luck.

wilinct

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