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We did it, our first MMF

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What a crazy night, full of surprises and emotions. It was like riding a Rollercoaster, there were ups and downs throughout the night.

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Can you share some more details? I would love to know the highs and lows!

 

It happened so fast i was kind of taken back at first. We had a couple of drinks then had a nice light dinner. Then we sat in his living room and she was drinking another glass of wine. He asked me to switch spots with him and the next thing I knew I was sitting across from them and they were kissing. Ten minutes later we were in his bedroom and all I could do was watch. I was totally shocked at how fast everything was happening. I don't even remember taking my clothes off. He was all over my wife and she was all over him. Watching him go down on her was a sight to see and he is an expert at it. The most incredible thing of the night was watching him enter her the first time. I was amazed how fast she was able to take him, and I have to admit I felt a little insecure about my size compared to him.

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...but she came with you and then left with you. That's what needs to be focused on. Glad to hear that things are going so well for the both of you (uh, three of you?).

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Yes she did come home with me, and yes we had a great time. I did have some some jealous feeling and I did feel a little inadequate at one time. But after we were home I realized I wasn't. We are going back tonight.

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Oh, so we can expect another update. Don't be in too much of a rush (it's called new relationship energy or NRE). Take your time and enjoy the experiences.

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I've thought about the size factor. Do you guys seek out a larger endowed man or is it a lottery? I have been thinking about whether I would have feelings of inadequacy compared to a larger male, but I dont think I would because I get off to the extreme at the thought of my wife receiving maximum pleasure. I guess I'm also fairly confident in how I use what I got. But I can see where watching another man ravaging your spouse, especially when he's well endowed, could cause some mixed emotions. I don't know, maybe it is my serious voyeur tendencies and confidence in my wifes true love for only me that keeps me from getting to anxious at the thought. But I guess I will find out soon enough

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Oh, so we can expect another update. Don't be in too much of a rush (it's called new relationship energy or NRE). Take your time and enjoy the experiences.

 

It wasn't me, it's my wife that keeps agreeing with William to keep meeting. I honestly don't know how she can keep doing this without taking a break.

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I've thought about the size factor. Do you guys seek out a larger endowed man or is it a lottery? I have been thinking about whether I would have feelings of inadequacy compared to a larger male, but I don't think I would because I get off to the extreme at the thought of my wife receiving maximum pleasure. I guess I'm also fairly confident in how I use what I got. But I can see where watching another man ravaging your spouse, especially when he's well endowed, could cause some mixed emotions. I don't know, maybe it is my serious voyeur tendencies and confidence in my wifes true love for only me that keeps me from getting to anxious at the thought. But I guess I will find out soon enough

 

I had nothing to do with picking him, my wife said she was on a site one night when a box popped up. It was some site to meet people in your area and talk about things in the community, places to eat, shop and go out at night. That's where she met him.

 

My wife is 34 years old, 5'2" and weighs a hundred pounds; he is at least 6'2" thin build in very good shape for 54 years old. I'm not trying to be funny but when I saw him naked the first thing that I thought was his dick looked like an alien.

 

The next thing was he was between my wife's legs, he was rubbing it on her and then pushed it up on her belly. That's when I got worried that he was going to hurt her. I was shocked to see how held her and talked to her then pushed forward. It was amazing to see how effortless it really was, the only noise she made was moaning.

 

As far as I'm concerned anyone that says they didn't have jealous feelings or other feelings seeing their wife with another person in a sexual act isn't in a good marriage. I did enjoy that evening and so did my wife. It was a life changing experience for both of us and one we are going to continue to explore.

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"As far as I'm concerned anyone that says they didn't have jealous feelings or other feelings seeing their wife with another person in a sexual act isn't in a good marriage. I did enjoy that evening and so did my wife. It was a life changing experience for both of us and one we are going to continue to explore. "

 

See, my wife and I are extremely new to this lifestyle so I can't say with concrete certainty how I'd feel. We haven't done anything yet as we first shared our desires only two days ago. I'm sure it would bring a lot of different emotions seeing another guy "have" my wife for a time. I'm also a bit of a strange creature. But who knows, when the time comes I may have a change of heart when the talking nears becoming reality.However, I completely understand where you are coming from and think you have a lot of care for your wife. I can assure you I would be jealous... no enraged, if my wife went behind my back. That would obviously mean she has feelings for this person and is making an effort to see them without me knowing... Yep, I would explode if something like that happened. But in an environment where we mutually choose a candidate and it is being done for our mutual pleasure to enhance our own personal romance, then I'm all for it. But I guess I wont know for sure how I feel till we cross that bridge.

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"As far as I'm concerned anyone that says they didn't have jealous feelings or other feelings seeing their wife with another person in a sexual act isn't in a good marriage."

 

Why?

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"As far as I'm concerned anyone that says they didn't have jealous feelings or other feelings seeing their wife with another person in a sexual act isn't in a good marriage. I did enjoy that evening and so did my wife. It was a life changing experience for both of us and one we are going to continue to explore. "

 

See, my wife and I are extremely new to this lifestyle so I can't say with concrete certainty how I'd feel. We haven't done anything yet as we first shared our desires only two days ago.I'm sure it would bring a lot of different emotions seeing another guy "have" my wife for a time. I'm also a bit of a strange creature. But who knows, when the time comes I may have a change of heart when the talking nears becoming reality.However, I completely understand where you are coming from and think you have a lot of care for your wife. I can assure you I would be jealous... no enraged,if my wife went behind my back. That would obviously mean she has feelings for this person and is making an effort to see them without me knowing... Yep, I would explode if something like that happened. But in an environment where we mutually choose a candidate and it is being done for our mutual pleasure to enhance our own personal romance, then I'm all for it. But I guess I wont know for sure how I feel till we cross that bridge

 

Trust me things will happen really fast, they did for us. We were invited to his place for dinner. It started with drinks and conversation, then to a light dinner that was fantastic. After dinner we went to his living room for a after dinner drink. He led the conversation and took it right to what we where really there for. I listen to him complement my wife and me and thank us for taking the time to allow all of us to build a friendship together. I watched him as he verbally seduced my wife to the point that i new our lives were going to change forever. This man is a professional at the art of seduction and I think if anyone is going to get involved in this they should find a person like my wife did.

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"As far as I'm concerned anyone that says they didn't have jealous feelings or other feelings seeing their wife with another person in a sexual act isn't in a good marriage.

 

 

Why?

 

It's just a normal response between two people that love one another

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Hi, 3622maw. I have to respectfully disagree with you on these points:

 

As far as I'm concerned anyone that says they didn't have jealous feelings or other feelings seeing their wife with another person in a sexual act isn't in a good marriage.

 

It's just a normal response between two people that love one another

 

There are people who can watch their partner having sex with someone else and not feel jealous. The reason they can do that is because they feel secure in their relationship, unpossessive, and compersion (happiness that comes when one's lover is happy with one of their other lovers). The first time that I watched Mr. Sun have sex with another woman during our first swap, was I jealous? Yes, I'll admit to it. But on the 2nd experience, it was just a twinge. Then by our third, it wasn't there. Any time where I feel insecure about our relationship, my jealous tendencies tend to come out but that's because of a lack of feeling close to Mr. Sun and the feeling that I'm going to "lose him". But again, that also deals with the idea that I "own" him, which I don't. He is his own person who has his own separate desires. If it so happens that I no longer make him happy, if I truly loved him, wouldn't I want him to be happy, even if it wasn't with me? And for my own happiness, why would I want to continue to be with someone who doesn't want to be with me? Feeling jealousy is an inaccurate measure of how much one does or does not love another person. It only speaks about that person's insecurity in themselves or the relationship.

 

The other point you made was:

 

I watched him as he verbally seduced my wife to the point that i new our lives were going to change forever. This man is a professional at the are of seduction and i think if anyone is going to get involved in this should find a person like my wife did.

 

I strongly disagree with this. When we first explored swinging, I was mainly interested in MFM; however, I was very fortunate to find this website and I came to the conclusion that it would be a lot smarter and safer for us to begin our journey with a couple swap. Something for everyone. No single males/females with a complex to trying to "steal another person's partner". No chance of trying a MFM, then husband wanting a FMF but I would back out because I wasn't sure if I could handle it and then husband would become resentful. I wanted us to know right from the start if we could both handle seeing each other with someone else sexually. I also wanted more of a guarantee that no one would be interested in seducing one of us away because they themselves were married. I was interested in fairness and honesty.

 

Considering your specific situation about how you may have encouraged her to seek out chatting with other males but she decided not to tell you about how she talked to him on the phone or Skyped with him, makes me very wary of your current situation. Am I glad you two met him together and have had experiences together? Yes. But the frequency of how often you two have met with him in such a short time worries me. Something tells me there is more than what meets the eye here. Could there be a growing emotional attachment between your wife and William? Highly probable. Is there a possibility that there might be some "sneaking around" between them? Since it occurred in the past, also possible. Is it possible that I'm a worry wart? Absolutely but I have had alarm bells going off from the time of your first postings.

 

Please, please, please be careful. If you feel any hesitation or concern, please talk to your wife about it and I hope she listens and is willing to put a stop to what is going on so you two can work on the issue together. If she isn't...well, you need to ask why.

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Consider me a big fan of "sperm competition." The idea of another man giving it good and hard to my wife to the point where she is literally melting with pleasure makes me go crazy with sexual energy. Then when he's done and has pushed her to her pleasure limit, I want to take her over the top with every ounce of intimacy I can produce. Fantasizing about it makes me want to just pounce on her. And I think this way ALL the time. Not just during sexy time. I got my wife a rather large dildo to "practice" with and am loving watching her work it. The anticipation for the real thing is incredibly stimulating. And the fact that she loves me being turned on by her getting extreme pleasure in any way possible makes for a perfect storm of sexual intimacy. But yeah, if feelings started for another guy then I would be irked. But I kind of compare it to a girl with much larger breasts than my wife. There's no way in hell I would leave my wife or think higher of this larger chested woman or find an emotional attachment based on a body part. All my emotions are strictly on my wife as hers is strictly on me. We are a team

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Consider me a big fan of "sperm competition." The idea of another man giving it good and hard to my wife to the point where she is literally melting with pleasure makes me go crazy with sexual energy. Then when hes done and has pushed her to her pleasure limit, I want to take her over the top with every ounce of intimacy I can produce. Fantasizing about it makes me want to just pounce on her. And I think this way ALL the time. Not just during sexy time. I got my wife a rather large dildo to "practice" with and am loving watching her work it. The anticipation for the real thing is incredibly stimulating. And the fact that she loves me being turned on by her getting extreme pleasure in any way possible makes for a perfect storm of sexual intimacy. But yea, if feelings started for another guy then I would be irked. But I kind of compare it to a girl with much larger breasts than my wife. There's no way in hell I would leave my wife or think higher of this larger chested woman or find an emotional attachment based on a body part. All my emotions are strictly on my wife as hers is strictly on me.We are a team

 

Well I'm really glad for all of you that you didn't have any of the feeling that i did. As for me wife talking to William, we had a long talk about that and she explained to me that sense i was the one who asked her to go online and seek out men she didn't see where it would be a problem. I'm definitely not worried about my wife sneaking around on me.

 

And just to give you a little insite about feelings. My best friend is a marriage counselor and he told me it is very normal to have these feelings.

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The speed of the progress keeps surprising me. Now you have spoken with this best friend, was the advice only positive and reassuring? I still see the same red flags as sunbuckus, I would be surprised if this counselor would not see any possible issues here.

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Please don't feel that I was implying you aren't "normal." I was more so trying to explain my thought process on how a lack of jealous feelings and a good marriage can exist. I hope I wasn't coming across as rude. Like I said earlier, I'm maybe a bit strange and was just offering insight to my own personal inner workings. Your feelings are your feelings and obviously you know what's best for you and your marriage. But bravo on actually going through with your fantasy

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I'll have to second that I strongly disagree with the idea that if you don't feel jealousy you don't have a good relationship. Our relationship is coming up on it's third decade and is doing just fine, and jealousy hasn't been an issue either before or after swinging was introduced into the relationship. Why that is, Sunbuckus did a great job of explaining, so I won't repeat it, but if you have those things in your relationship, then jealousy isn't going to be a big issue.

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I'll have to second that I strongly disagree with the idea that if you don't feel jealousy you don't have a good relationship. Our relationship is coming up on it's third decade and is doing just fine, and jealousy hasn't been an issue either before or after swinging was introduced into the relationship. Why that is, Sunbuckus did a great job of explaining, so I won't repeat it, but if you have those things in your relationship, then jealousy isn't going to be a big issue.

 

If any of you took the time to really read my post you would have seen where it said "jealous or other feeling" there where a lot of feelings. As far as some of the other comments that were made, we didn't get into this to turn my wife into some kind of slut to have lines of men fill her with sperm. I hope you can understand that! We did this to add some extra excitement into our lifestyle. As far as my friend goes who is the marriage counselor,we have been best friends since kindergarten in school. We have told each other about all our endeavors in each of our relationship. So last night i asked my wife about her feelings she had. Well guess what she told me the first night she couldn't look at me when he was having sex with her. She also told me that when we got home that night the reason she wanted to make love again was to make sure i still loved her. She said if i didn't make love to her that night this would have been a one time thing. You see to me and my wife it's not about just seeing her get fucked and some guy filling her with cum. It's about two people so in love that there trust in each other out weighs anything else.

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Hubby speaking here. It sounds like you had quite a night. By our experience, you really hit several milestones or fantasies on the first time. First, the MFM. Second, that the wife pretty much set it up. That didn't come until our second MFM. Third, watching the wife take a really big one and seeing that size really does matter. That didn't come until about the 10th experience for us. So, for you, victory all around.

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As far as I'm concerned anyone that says they didn't have jealous feelings or other feelings seeing their wife with another person in a sexual act isn't in a good marriage.

 

What part of that did I miss? You're entitled to that opinion, and are free to express it or any other opinion here, but there are a lot of people on this site who have been doing this a long time, have wonderful relationships that have stood the test of time, and don't feel any jealousy. When you make a blanket statement that their relationship, which they value more than anything else in their life, isn't a good one, then expect some disagreement on that. Everyone is different, I'm sure some people do feel jealousy, but some don't for the reasons explained above.

 

It's nothing about "turning your wife into a slut with a line of men waiting". It's not about "turning" anyone into anything, because that implies they are yours to shape and mold to begin with. It's about allowing each other the freedom to fully possess their sexuality as their own, and if they so choose, to share that sexuality with others.

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First of all, I like to emphasize I'm honestly very happy that everything works out fine for you two!

 

But some of your remarks sounds a bit odd to me, maybe I miss some subtleties in English here :) , but IMHO no post in this discussion suggested that swinging without jealousy means turning a wife into some kind of slut to have lines of men fill her with sperm. For me, the absence of jealous feelings (or being married or not, for that matter) does not mean less love in a relationship. The way you put it sounds a bit negative towards people that simply have an other set of feelings towards each other.

 

By the way: please, don't see my posts where I state my worries as negative criticism or attacks, it is just of genuine care for your situation.

 

p.s.: not that there is something wrong with lines of men filling a wife, of course :rolleyes:

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Ms CC and I used to get jealous over the simplest of things. Is my cock too small, does he do oral better than I, is she tighter and feel better, can she perform oral better and a thousand other questions. I guess for your first time, it is natural to ask since you now have someone else to compare yourself too. A couple is used to each others styles, techniques and methods. Bring in that first 3rd person and all of a sudden things change. Swinging can strengthen or destroy a marriage. And I guess most couples start out with 3somes. Not to say that is a bad thing, but we have made it a habit to set rules and never ever break them.

 

Three basic rules we have, have served us well over time.

 

1. If either oppose for any reason, nothing happens. We don't try to talk the other into it, no matter what. We may discuss it later to find out why, but we never break that rule.

2. We never compare or compete against the other. We have had MMF and FMF 3somes. If another male is brought in, I don't compare or ask about his style, technique, size, endurance, etc... Nor does Ms CC ask about her "competition" since that is not what this is all about. For this reason, we generally tend to stay with couples and make friends first. This isn't supposed to be a fuck fest. We don't view swinging as how many guys she can let fuck her, or about how much pussy I can get. Our general attitude is, swinging MAY be a natural progression with another couple IF and only IF things take that direction. We both have to genuinely like the other couple - both of them.

3. Each reserves the right to call it off at anytime, even if in the middle of it all...no questions asked.

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Our first MMF happened with husband watching me. It made me want it more as I saw the look on his face....I just let go. He wasn't jealous he says he loves seeing me just enjoy sex. I wasn't leaving him..our relationship is very strong.

 

It allows me to fully enjoy every moment.

 

MMF MMMF off the bucket list and both time with black men so another item off the bucket list.

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Our first MMF happened with husband watching me. It made me want it more as I saw the look on his face....I just let go. He wasn't jealous he says he loves seeing me just enjoy sex. I wasn't leaving him..our relationship is very strong.

 

It allows me to fully enjoy every moment.

 

MMF MMMF off the bucket list and both time with black men so another item off the bucket list.

 

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Thanks for your information, we had another great time this weekend. This is by fare the best thing We have ever done. My wife has never looked so good she is glowing all the time

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