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We have had quite a few experiences in the short time we have been participating in the LS. One couple we have been with a few times, the husband hangs back and watches for the most part, some participation but mostly seems to enjoy watching things play out (which I can understand, I find watching my wife an incredible turn on, but I like to play too) But they are about on the same ground as us. Slow moving and each time takes some warm up and talk before we dive in. The other couple is very experienced, the husband usually has my wife's attention within a few minutes, and has her undivided attention in just a few more, I love seeing this ,however I am more shy (while clothed) and will sit next to his wife and place a hand on her knee, or just sit close to her, I have given her a back rub to start things off. I don't really know where I am at after 14 years with the same woman. It feels like trying to date again, without the objective of a full relationship :lol: . I brought this up the third time they came over, apologized to his wife for being shy. LOL, she said, "hun, you're anything but shy". Her husband said "When you have been swinging for a while, you get a feeling for what people are looking for, and when to do what" Does this seem normal to those in the lifestyle for a while? I can turn on the charm no problem and I am good at making people feel at ease, but that is mostly talking. Maybe it is just because I have been with the same number of people since 2004 until early this month, and am still really new to working my way up. Any thoughts, suggestions?

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Its all about communication. We have both been in this situation where the partner we are with wants to go slow. Two weeks ago, the guy and my wife got started very fast. Although we are all undressed, I wasn’t sure if his wife was ready or willing to dive in with me. I put my arm around her and asked if she wanted to watch for a while. I could tell she was relieved. We sat back and watch our spouses enjoying each other and it was great. As she got turned on, she started to rub my cock and things escalated from there. Always good to just go with the flow and never force things.

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Funny, but the couples we swap with it's the women who get together to talk and map out a strategy. Usually they have their clothes off first, are playing with each other, and deciding how to use us for their pleasure. When it comes to sex, having more than one woman telling you what to do is a good thing.

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Adamgunn: all fair points, thank you.

 

Bluespruce1: this is what seems to me to be one of my hangups. Communicating when things start to get intimate. Going with the flow works for now, It's live and learn I guess.

 

Numex: The first couple I mentioned is like this. If we have play time arranged the wives will text each other through the day thinking up scenarios and such. By the time they visit we still hang out and BS but the ladies take the lead and we husbands jump in where they want us to/where we're told :D

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Having even less experience than you (only one LS'ish event) I feel much the same way as you. I have realized that I need to initiate rather than wait to be invited in. This will be a leap for me as I am a bit shy as well and then there is also the whole #metoo that gets in the back of my head (even if everyone is naked).?

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Flirting and turning on the charm can be difficult when you haven't done it in a while. It sounds like you're winning though so don't sweat it. As you get more comfortable flirting and see the benefits of it you'll gain confidence.

 

I think one of the easiest ways to flirt is to just give compliments. Don't be afraid to tell the woman that you find her attractive. Try to find things which are apparent she would like compliments on. It's not that hard to find if you look. Does her hair look especially sexy the way it lays on her shoulders? Does she have a playful smile or warm eyes. She's probably done something to look that way, even if she hasn't she'll appreciate you noticing anyway. Do her shoes make her legs look really sexy? Does the dress she has on make her breasts look really inviting or make her ass look really good. If it does then she probably wants to hear that particularly knowing what setting you are in so it's OK to get a little raunchy, say it with a coy smile and be ready to laugh. Above all, be sure that the compliments are sincere and don't go overboard. It will show a genuine interest and the conversation will flow much more easily when she gets comfortable with a mutual attraction. It won't take much and she'll probably be telling you all the shit she did to get ready for the night. Then all you have to do is listen and respond.

 

Speaking of laughing, I can't speak for all women but making my wife laugh makes her panties fall off, if she's wearing any. That's a little more difficult as a flirting technique but you don't have to be Seinfeld. Think of some funny things that have happened as a part of your lifestyle experience and be ready to work one into the conversation. Or think of some horrible things and make a joke of it. It could even be how you had to apologize to the last couple because you were like a high school kid trying to make a move and had to give a back rub for 30 minutes before you got even got a BJ while your wife had been spending that 30 minutes getting busy. See, that's funny!

 

The last couple we spent time with at our club was really funny and he had some great stories about things that had gone wrong like some woman giving him head with way too much teeth. He had us rolling talking about how he couldn't walk right for a week. Next thing I know my wife is in his lap rubbing his cock asking if it was OK now.

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I'm curious about this as well. My wife and I are getting into the lifestyle and my fear is going to an event and not having anyone socialize with us and/or invite us to play. It's helpful to see the suggestions being made.

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Just being generally positive is a good idea.

SMILE and look at their faces.

 

If there is a bit of work to do pitch in.

 

 

I remember one of my first parties. I decided to help set out the food, which was as usual the ladies job. By the time it was set up I had been the recipient of a kiss or two, some hugs and a spontaneous ass grab. I get no where near that attention in a 15 minute time span otherwise.

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I think one of the easiest ways to flirt is to just give compliments. Don't be afraid to tell the woman that you find her attractive. Try to find things which are apparent she would like compliments on. It's not that hard to find if you look. Does her hair look especially sexy the way it lays on her shoulders? Does she have a playful smile or warm eyes. She's probably done something to look that way, even if she hasn't she'll appreciate you noticing anyway. Do her shoes make her legs look really sexy? Does the dress she has on make her breasts look really inviting or make her ass look really good. If it does then she probably wants to hear that particularly knowing what setting you are in so it's OK to get a little raunchy, say it with a coy smile and be ready to laugh. Above all, be sure that the compliments are sincere and don't go overboard. It will show a genuine interest and the conversation will flow much more easily when she gets comfortable with a mutual attraction. It won't take much and she'll probably be telling you all the shit she did to get ready for the night. Then all you have to do is listen and respond.

 

This is solid advice in any setting. The common vanilla mistake is to mindlessly compliment something about a woman that she has no control over because you were noticing it. Pick something that she obviously put some thought and effort to, and that also compliments something she has no control over.

 

I was once in danger of getting caught staring at the cleavage of a beautiful blond I didn't know very well, and managed to think fast enough to turn it into "that's a really cool necklace". I've been having sex with her for ten years now.

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and my fear is going to an event and not having anyone socialize with us and/or invite us to play. ...

 

Don't judge your experience by this. It will happen when it happens. In the mean time show some interest yourselves.

 

 

If you want to be appealing have a great time with your SO and LOOK like your are having a great time. Others want to be part of a great time.

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Don't judge your experience by this. It will happen when it happens. In the mean time show some interest yourselves.

 

 

If you want to be appealing have a great time with your SO and LOOK like your are having a great time. Others want to be part of a great time.

 

We're naturally outgoing. But I'm not sure what the balance is between mingling and intruding. I know what you mean about enjoying each other.

 

Thanks

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We're naturally outgoing. But I'm not sure what the balance is between mingling and intruding. I know what you mean about enjoying each other.

 

Thanks

 

Just say hello and introduce yourselves then take the cues.

We've had people just walk up to us to tell us we made a cute couple. One couple came to tell us they watched us make out and they thought it was hot. Swingers generally don't mind being approached. The ones who might blow you off are doing you a favor because they aren't the kind to try to get to know you even if it's just for a few hours. When that happens take it for what it is and move on.

 

 

If you want to be approached, make yourselves approachable. For people who aren't the get up and introduce yourselves type smile as people walk by. Make eye contact, just say "hi" and see what happens.

As ICM said, have fun with whatever you're doing. If it's just the two of you pick people out of the crowd and find something funny about them, the way they're dressed or make up something about who they are and make comments back and forth just between the two of you. No one has to know what you're doing. The point is the two of you are playing a game, having fun, laughing, smiling and other people will want to be a part of it too. Sit there like a bump on a log, sullen faced because no one will talk to you and all you need to do is look in a mirror to figure out why.

 

Also, there's no shame in just absorbing the atmosphere on a particular night and not playing with anyone else. Not every night has to be an orgy. Our club has different atmospheres depending on the crowd. Sometimes we play with others, sometimes we play alone, sometimes we hang out a couple of hours, realize it's not our night and we go get some late night tacos. We've learned to go out with high hopes but no expectations of anything happening. We seldom leave disappointed even if nothing happened. It usually means our return trip will be fairly soon to try, try again.

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At a club, we often start off together on a bed in a open play area or in a room where we leave the door open. We always have a great time together and it does attract others. On more than one occasion, we've had a couple stand and watch us somewhat shyly at TPA and or Trapeze. We've briefly stopped, smiled at them and said, "feel free to join us, there's plenty of room." It turned out that couples Im recalling were very new and we ended up being their 1st experience.

At house parties, Mrs Doc wears easy access clothing and little or no underwear. I get the ball rolling by fondling and kissing her in the presence of other guests eventually exposing her boobs or dropping her skirt. If it attracts attention, great, if not, nobody (certainly not me) has ever said that having sex with my wife is not a bonus. red dress 3.jpg

Being open, playful with each other, and smiling is pretty much an open invitation.

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Just say hello and introduce yourselves then take the cues.

We've had people just walk up to us to tell us we made a cute couple. One couple came to tell us they watched us make out and they thought it was hot. Swingers generally don't mind being approached. The ones who might blow you off are doing you a favor because they aren't the kind to try to get to know you even if it's just for a few hours. When that happens take it for what it is and move on.

 

 

If you want to be approached, make yourselves approachable. For people who aren't the get up and introduce yourselves type smile as people walk by. Make eye contact, just say "hi" and see what happens.

As ICM said, have fun with whatever you're doing. If it's just the two of you pick people out of the crowd and find something funny about them, the way they're dressed or make up something about who they are and make comments back and forth just between the two of you. No one has to know what you're doing. The point is the two of you are playing a game, having fun, laughing, smiling and other people will want to be a part of it too. Sit there like a bump on a log, sullen faced because no one will talk to you and all you need to do is look in a mirror to figure out why.

 

Also, there's no shame in just absorbing the atmosphere on a particular night and not playing with anyone else. Not every night has to be an orgy. Our club has different atmospheres depending on the crowd. Sometimes we play with others, sometimes we play alone, sometimes we hang out a couple of hours, realize it's not our night and we go get some late night tacos. We've learned to go out with high hopes but no expectations of anything happening. We seldom leave disappointed even if nothing happened. It usually means our return trip will be fairly soon to try, try again.

 

Thanks for sharing. What you said makes sense. I think we'll have to be there to know what the approach will be. I wrote the local club today asking to take a tour. Once I hear back at least we'll know what the place looks like and maybe where we want to start out.

 

Thanks again!

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At a club, we often start off together on a bed in a open play area or in a room where we leave the door open. We always have a great time together and it does attract others. On more than one occasion, we've had a couple stand and watch us somewhat shyly at TPA and or Trapeze. We've briefly stopped, smiled at them and said, "feel free to join us, there's plenty of room." It turned out that couples Im recalling were very new and we ended up being their 1st experience.

At house parties, Mrs Doc wears easy access clothing and little or no underwear. I get the ball rolling by fondling and kissing her in the presence of other guests eventually exposing her boobs or dropping her skirt. If it attracts attention, great, if not, nobody (certainly not me) has ever said that having sex with my wife is not a bonus. [ATTACH=CONFIG]11017[/ATTACH]

Being open, playful with each other, and smiling is pretty much an open invitation.

 

Not sure what TPA/Trapeze is but I'm sure if we get a handle on the social aspect of the lifestyle, we'll have no problem doing similar in regard to just starting to have sex and welcoming others that want to join.

 

Thanks!

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TPA (The Private Affair) is a swingers club in NE Maryland. Trapeze is a swingers club in Ft Lauderdale.

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TPA (The Private Affair) is a swingers club in NE Maryland. Trapeze is a swingers club in Ft Lauderdale.

 

Oh ok, thanks for the clarification.

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Love it when it’s very organic. For example last week we met a new couple at a bar. Had a few drinks and clearly there was a spark and we were interested in each other. We paired off and engaged in a long conversation. Body language says a ton. She got close to me and he got very comfortable with my wife. We did a bit of dancing and the hands got busy. We ended up grabbing some carry out and shared a hotel room down the street. As soon as we got in the room clothes came off - just about everything was nonverbal. We knew they wanted us, and we wanted them.

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Love it when it’s very organic. For example last week we met a new couple at a bar. Had a few drinks and clearly there was a spark and we were interested in each other. We paired off and engaged in a long conversation. Body language says a ton. She got close to me and he got very comfortable with my wife. We did a bit of dancing and the hands got busy. We ended up grabbing some carry out and shared a hotel room down the street. As soon as we got in the room clothes came off - just about everything was nonverbal. We knew they wanted us, and we wanted them.

 

 

I'd love to get to that point where we experience that level of chemistry with another couple...or several!!!

 

Things to shoot for I suppose.

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      Friday came, and I arrived at Sue and Don’s house at 6:30 as planned. Nancy was not there yet, but Sue told me that we were not expected at the party until 8. Sue, Don, and I were sitting at their bar talking, and I asked where was this party we were going to and they said it was at a couple's house (Dan and Barbara) who they had met about 8 months ago. I did not know them, and I asked if they knew that I was coming, and without knowing me, were they ok with that. Sue told me that they knew and were fine with it, also that Robert and Cathy, and David and Joann would also be there, and that they all had vouched for me. Sue asked if I was still nervous, and I said yes I was.
       
      Meeting a lady for the first time, as a single, would make any man nervous, much less one you were going to a swinging house party with her as your date. Who would not be nervous? But knowing 3 couples that were going to be there helped somewhat. (Robert and Cathy were the first couple that Dee and I ever played with when we got into swinging, and David and Joann were part of the group that we got together with for about 3 years).
       
      Nancy arrived about 15 minutes later, looking stunning. She wore a low-cut gray blouse and a black skirt that stopped about halfway to her knees. Dark stockings and black high heels. She stood 5’7", about 135 lbs., and had legs to die for. Blonde hair, blue eyes, great smile, and very well-gifted up top. Her blouse was cut just right so that the mounds of her tits were showing down to the top of her nipples. She had an incredible tan line that went from a dark bronze color to almost show white ½" above her nipples. She was in her early 40’s, and I started to feel very nervous again. The four of us sat and talked until it was time to leave for the party, Sue ran and got her party bag, and we all loaded up in their SUV for the drive over. Nancy and I were going to sit in the back seat for the drive over, and as she was getting in, I saw she had on black garters that were holding up her stockings; with her low-cut blouse, I already knew she was bra-less, panty-less, well only time would tell.
       
      We arrived at the party, and I was introduced to Dan and Barbara. They are a nice-looking couple, early 40’s early 50’s, like most of the couples there. I saw that Robert and Cathy were already there, along with David and Joann. With a total of 10 couples there at the time, that made it 3 that I knew and 6 plus Nancy that I did not know. (I kept hearing Dee’s words; Mingle and meet, Mingle and meet over and over in my head).
       
      The party was going along like most house parties did, with people greeting one another, some snacks, some drinks, music, and dancing. Small groups standing around talking, a lot of flirting going on. As time went by, there were more people in different stages of undressed. A couple would be seen walking down the hall towards one of the bedrooms, more couples would be going out to enjoy the hot tub on the patio. Everyone was having a good time excluding myself. I had almost forgotten how at ease one could be and how much fun it was to be around people that thought of recreational sex the same as Dee and I did.
       
      (You see someone and you say, "I would like to fuck that person" They look at you and say, " I would like to fuck that person", and the two of you get together and fuck. Both enjoy it, and that is that. Your spouse knows about it and, most of the time, is there to enjoy it with you if not joining in. No jealousies ,no hard feelings, no fights, and most of all, no means no. But in the back of my mind, I kept thinking that I am now a single man in a couple’s lifestyle.)
       
      I was talking to a couple when I looked towards the area that had been set aside for dancing, where I saw Nancy, Joann, and Barbara all dancing together. All three had shed their blouses and were giving one hell of a sexy dance performance. I knew from what I could see from her low-cut blouse that Nancy had a nice set of tits, but to see her dancing topless they were great. They were round and firm with nipples that stood out ¾". At 43 years of age, they were more than likely bought, but real or Memorex, I did not care. I just wanted to suck on them. Her stomach was flat and firm and showed that she took care of herself at the gym. She still had her skirt on, but those long legs and that flat-toned stomach just started me to think how beautiful the meeting place must look.
       
      When the song ended, Nancy walked over to me and put her arms around my neck and kissed me. She looked me in the eyes and said, let's go. I want to have you alone first, and I had no problem with that. We walked down the hall and checked the first two bedrooms and found them occupied. The master bedroom was at the end of the hall, and when we opened the door, we saw Sue and Dan had already gotten there. We started to close the door, and Dan said to come on in. There was more than enough room on the bed; he and Sue only needed half of it.
       
      Nancy put her arms around my neck and kissed me, and whispered that she wanted me naked. At this point, she started to unbutton my shirt. I felt her firm breast pressing against my chest as I ran my hands down her sides. Her skirt had no snaps but was held up by the elastic waistband. It was just a matter of hooking my thumbs under the waistband and stretching it out a little so it would slide down her long legs. Just as I had suspected, she was panty-less. As she undid my pants, I cupped one of her tits in my hand and lowered my mouth to her nipple. My other hand found her wet hot pussy, and I started to finger fuck her with ease. Her hands had pushed my pants down to my knees, and she was stroking my swollen cock with both of her hands. I could hear her breathing getting heavier with each passing moment as I sucked her nipple and fingered her sweet wet hole. She looked me in the eye and pulled my head closer to hers for a long sexual kiss. She started slowly going down to her knees, all the while kissing my chest and stomach. When she reached my now rock-hard shaft, she cupped my balls and the base of my dick in both hands and opened her mouth to take its head into her mouth.
       
      As I stood there getting this magnificent blow-job from this woman, I looked over to the bed. Sue and Dan had moved to the sixty/nine position, and Sue was sucking his cock like she did mine the night before. Dan had his face buried between Sue’s legs, licking her sweet pussy for all its worth. He had his hands spreading it as far as he could to get his tongue in as deep as he could. I remembered just how good Sue’s pussy tasted when she would come, and she always came from a good licking. I wondered just how Nancy’s pussy would taste and did she enjoy it as much as Sue. It would not be much longer before I would find out because of the way she was sucking my dick and watching Sue and Dan, I started to unload in her mouth. My first squirt was deep inside her mouth; the second one she had pulled back but had her mouth open so that it landed in her mouth but mostly on the tongue. As she was swallowing the first two loads, the third hit her closed lips and started to run down her chin. She wiped it off with her finger and then cleaned her finger with her tongue. She stood up and looked me in the eye, and said thank you, we kissed deep and long, and then I told her it was my turn. As she landed down on the bed, I removed my shoes, socks, and pants. She was on her back naked except for her garters and stockings.
       
      I laded down beside her and started to kiss her gently on the neck; slowly, I worked my way down to her nipples, where I sucked and nibbled on each one of them. All the while, I was running my fingers in and out of her hot wet pussy. Her pussy was neatly shaved with just a puff of blond hair left above it. I have always preferred a little hair left instead of an all-shaved pussy, (I wondered if Sue had told her that and she shaved that way just for me). I was working my way down to her honey pot, and she was opening her legs for me. I normally like to work a woman by kissing, nibbling, and sucking on the inside of their legs before I dive into pussy licking. That always seemed to bring their tension up a notch, so when I did go for the gold, they were more than ready for it. With Nancy having her garters and stockings on, that kind of blocked that approach. I soon found out that she did not need that step of foreplay; I also found out that she was anything but a quiet climaxer. I had no sooner started licking, sucking, and nibbling her pussy than she started humping and screaming and cumming. She was begging me to fuck her right then, I needed a little more time to recoup from my climax before I could go on, and she didn’t seem to want to give it to me. I looked from between the legs, and I don’t know if Sue saw the whipped dog look in my eyes or if she was so turned on by Nancy's pleading for a hard fucking or what, but Sue came to my rescue once again.
       
      Sue was on top of Dan, and he was hammering away at her for all he was worth. Sue leaned over and started kissing Nancy and telling her to let it come. I was still down licking her pussy and thinking, "Let this climax run its course, and things will settle down till I recover and can produce again. With Sue's kissing and sucking Nancy's tits and Nancy sucking on Sue’s tits and a double effect. Dan announced that he was coming, and I felt myself coming back into the game. As I slid back up on Nancy to where I could enter her, Sue sat back up on Dan and started riding him hard. She was about to have her own climax and needed to concentrate on that. Just as I put the head of my dick to Nancy’s pussy she said NO, not this way; she pushed me off and got on her hands and knees and said do me from behind; I like it this way the best.
       
      I have no problem with doggie style, so I got behind her and guided the head of my dick into her pussy. I normally like to start slowly, but Nancy told me to do it hard and fast. So I jammed it into the hilt. She instantly started to rock back and forth, and it took a couple of seconds to get into her rhythm, but I got there and was on the in-stroke when she was rocking back and on the outstroke when she was going forward. Like I said before, you know when Nancy comes, everybody knows when Nancy comes, and it did not take long for her to come doggie style.
       
      After she came down from her climax, her body just went limp, and she sank onto the bed face down. Ok, I understand about fast climaxes; been there and done that a time or two myself, but this is the first time I had experienced it happening with the woman I was with. Normally it’s the man that has this happening. I lay down beside her and put my arm around he, and kissed her on her shoulder. I can hear and feel her breathing hard, but that is all the response I get. I look over and Sue is still riding Dan’s dick. I see that glazed-over look in her eyes, one that I have seen many times before, and I know that she won’t last much longer. Just then, I see Dan arch his back and drive into Sue as deep as he can go, his hands are pulling Sue down onto his shaft, and I know that he is releasing his load into her. Sue is wide-eyed and tells him Yes, give it to me, and I know from being there that she has also reached her climax. I lay there and watched her rock back and forth as Dan kept his back arched to give her as much dick as he could. I know the feeling of her pussy muscles on a dick, and I know what he is feeling at this moment. They are constricting and relaxing, constricting and relaxing as she rocks back and forth. Milking every bit of his juice out that they can. I watch as they slow down, and then Sue collapses onto Dan’s chest; she starts that silly giggle that lets you know that you did a good job.
       
      Sue rolled onto her back next to Nancy and looked at me, and asked if I was enjoying myself, and I told him yes. Dan said he needed a drink and asked if any of us wanted one. Sue wanted a margarita, Nancy wanted a glass of ice water, and I said I could use a beer. As Dan was off to get the drinks, the three of us sat up in the bed, the women sat cross-legged, and I just slid up between them and used the headboard as a backrest. I could smell the must of just fucked pussy in the air. There were two women sitting crossed-legged with their pussies open for all to see, and I still had a hard-on. Sue spoke first and said to Nancy, " Did I not tell you he was a good fuck or not" At that point, I could have crawled under the bed, except that Sue was now rubbing my hard dick. Nancy agreed and said that she can’t wait to go again. Sue said that the night was young, but Nancy would just have to wait her turn now because she was next. Thank god Dan showed up with the drinks.
       
      The four of us sat there talking and sipping our drinks. We could hear the party going on in the other part of the house with the music and the occasional orgasm from one of the partygoers or another. Sue asked if we knew where Don was, and Dan said he saw him with Joann, to which Sue said, "Well, he will be occupied for a while". All this time, Sue was stroking my hard cock, then she said that it looked like I was ready to go again, and so was she. Nancy asked her if we could all do it like they did it at the last party. Sue looked at me and then back at Nancy and said that she thought it would be all right. I must have had a questioning look on my face because Sue told me that I would defiantly like this.
       
      Sue had me sit on the side of the bed with my feet on the floor. She then turned around and straddled me backward. I felt her guide my dick into her pussy as she sat down on my lap. " As exciting as the unknown is when having sex with a new partner, it is just as exciting as being in the know and having sex with someone that you have been with before. You know just what they like, and they know what trips your button; Sue knew just what to do to trip my button." She started to rotate her hips to give my dick that just-right grinding. Feeling her slow humping up and down along with the rotation was driving me insane. About that time, I felt a tongue wrapping around my balls and work up my shaft to where I was buried into Sue’s wet box. I looked around Sue to see Nancy on her hands and knees licking not only my balls and dick but also Sue’s wet pussy, and Dan was behind Nancy just fucking away. Sue started to rotate and moan, which caused me to shove up harder; Nancy was licking and sucking faster, which made Sue moan and rotate faster. It was like a snowball rolling downhill. The more it went on, the faster it got. I don’t know what was going on with Dan, and I did not care. I know that I came harder and longer into Sue’s pussy than I can ever remember doing. I remember falling back onto the bed with Sue laying on top of me and still feeling a tongue licking the both of us, and then I heard a far-off scream that said fuck me fuck yes fuck me.
       
      Sue was pulling on my arms and telling me it was time that we rejoined the party. We walked down the hall naked and into the den. We went to the bar, and I sat down on one of the stools. Sue went and got us both a drink and stood between my legs with her arms around my neck. She asked me what I thought of Nancy, and I told her that she was definitely different than any woman that I knew. She said that there was a long story behind that and she would tell me later, but not tonight, I laid my head down between her breast, and she was holding me and rubbing the back of my head when Don came walking up to join us.
       
      Don sat down on a stool, and Sue went over and put her arms around him and asked if he was having fun; I said that he looked like he had been road hard and put up wet. To which he came back with a one-word answer. " Joann". Sue and I just laughed, and I asked if she was still a whirlwind in bed, and he said that she was a man killer if you let her.
      Sue kissed us both and said that we men better get used to the whirlwinds because they are going to rule the world someday.
       
      Note from Jay:
      I have tried to express some of my feelings, thoughts, and happenings into the stories about how I got back into swinging after Dee’s death. I know that it is not your typical swing stories that you are used to reading here. I know that I have brought up couples out of the blue for those that have not been on this site for very long. There are stories posted by " Jay and Dee" that tells how we got started in the swinging lifestyle, how we found out that Don and Sue were swingers, and stories that were milestones in Dee’s and my journey into this wonderful lifestyle.
       
      A lifestyle that I thought had ended with Dee's death. A lifestyle of freedom, pleasure, understanding, and pure joy that I thought I would never be a part of again if it were not for Sue. Some might read into these stories that I have an infatuation with Sue. That is not true. I love Sue. If you go back and read The Surprise, you will know that I have known Sue since we were in elementary school. Her older brother was my best friend until we graduated high school; now, her husband is my best friend.
       
      If it were not for Sue and Don standing by me and pulling me out of my depression, getting me back into not only the lifestyle but life itself did I meet Pam.
       
      Pam is another story all together
       
      I lost Dee in 2004, and the stories about how I got back into the swing happened in 2006. In future stories, I will try not to go back too far into the past, but sometimes my thoughts go there, to a time, a place, or a person that is so important to me that I must bring it up for the story context.
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