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I've been reading so many different threads on this board, especially those related to my biggest fantasy, sharing my wife with another man. At first, I thought something was wrong with me. The idea has grown from an exciting fantasy in my head to a fantasy that I talk to her about in the bedroom constantly. The idea make me feel like I teenager exploring sex for the first time. I get so incredibly and uncontrollably turned on when we discuss it.

 

I have noticed, much to my surprise, that my fantasy is not so abnormal. In fact, if I'm correct, it seems as though the majority of people in these discussions not only support the idea of MFM but may prefer MFM over MFF. I have always felt that I, as a man, should prefer 2 girls in a threesome rather that inviting in another man, but I don't. I, for some reason, get so turned on by the idea of watching my wife with another man and being involved.

 

My questions are:

Do you prefer MMF or MFF? and

Do you believe we are a special group of people feeling this way or do you believe more people have these thoughts and just havenot been able to talk about it?

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We enjoy both, but lately I would prefer to just sit back and watch the wife having fun with a guy and not join in. And depending on the girl, she prefers the same.

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Hi and thanks for replying. Was it difficult for either of you the first time or didn't it just come naturally? Did it feel wrong or did you know it was right because it excited you?

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I'm not sure I prefer either, but I have some specific turn-ons that require MFM. It's also just a reality that it's much easier for people to organize MFM. It also happens more often among presumably vanilla relationships more than anybody will talk about. I don't think there's anything abnormal about fantasizing about either scenario, and people have different interests.

 

Our first time as a committed couple was soft swap with friends. When she first touched his cock she had a little panic and needed to get out of the pool, but ten minutes later was topless on her knees. Everything went pretty naturally from there.

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Hi and thanks for replying. Was it difficult for either of you the first time or didn't it just come naturally? Did it feel wrong or did you know it was right because it excited you?

 

The first time it felt wrong and right at the same time lol. I wasn't difficult for my wife at all, though!

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MMF or MFM just seems to work out better. FMF is really fun, but it's difficult to keep all 3 people involved. For a man trying to satisfy 2 women, he may need a day of rest afterward.

This board has a lot of MFM threads because that seems to be the direction that a lot of couples migrate toward. It's easier to find a single man than a couple or single woman. Much easier. Since to pool is so deep, there are a lot of gems. Just have to know how to mine.

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They are two entirely different things. We have only had one MFF and we really didn’t see it as swinging, just me, my then BF and my long time best friend having too much fun and drink on a night that she was staying with us. MFM are easy to come by. As a woman, I thoroughly enjoy them and hubby seems to as well. MFF really don’t happen much unless the two ladies are bi, and I’m not, so they don’t happen for us.

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Hi Lifeisadventure.

 

There have been some great responses so far.

 

Personally I like both MMF and MFF but people are correct in saying they are both very different.

 

I'm sure my reply will end up been really long as per usual, but I'm happy to give my thoughts and opinions on the subject.

 

In brief I would clarify what other people have already said, for example.

 

MFM / MMF: Is much easier to arrange, there is a oceans worth of men out there looking for sex, on every swingers sites you visit its fair to say that for every 1 women on the site there is 100 or even a 1000 men, so sure if you think about that from a purely mathematical point (a 1000 men for every 1 women) then its fair to say its a lot easier to meet a guy. The other thing I notice about MMF threesomes is that usually the husband of the relationship wants his wife to get interested in swinging, but for the vast majority (if not all) of her life his wife has only been with other men, that his wife is use to men, his wife feels more comfy with men, that his wife already knows what to expect from a man so choosing a man seems to be better for his wife, its something she already knows and has experience with.

 

Secondly I notice that a lot guys who want their wife/girlfriend to get into swinging basically think "Hey if I convince my wife to sleep with a few guys, if we have a few MMF threesomes, then at some point my wife will also open up to the idea of MFF and then I can fuck other women as well, that if my wife has a few MMF threesomes then she can't really say no when I ask for MFF at a later date" I can only say that sometimes that idea might work, but a lot of the time it doesn't work. Having MMF threesomes with your wife will not automatically make her agree to sleeping with another women later.

 

MFF: Like people have said above finding a single female to join you for a MFF threesome is a lot harder and it generally takes a lot more work, whilst the vast majority of men want sex all the time it seems that for most women its less of a priority, that actually it doesn't take much work to convince a man to have sex, but at times it can take an awful lot of time / effort / and work to convince a women to have a MFF threesome with you, and it takes an AWFUL LOT to keep that friendship going.

 

 

I really enjoy both MMF and MFF, perhaps the best way to look at it would be:

 

SEX: If all you want is sex, then a man is ideal at providing that.

 

SEX & FRIENDSHIP: If you want sex but also a close and very regular friendship, then a women is ideal at offering that.

 

 

Like stated I really enjoy both MMF and MFF but if I had to pick one, if I had my perfect scenario then it would be a very long lasting MFF situation because I do view that as been extremely fun and a bit safer. I have experienced 2 or 3 long lasting MFF situations in my life and they have all been amazingly good fun, meeting a man can take a matter of seconds online, where meeting a women is more rare, so obviously I'd pick the option that wasn't as easy, the option that doesn't happen all the time.

 

 

MY ADVANCED THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS:

 

 

MEN: Well let me start out by saying YES having MMF / MFM threesomes can be extremely good fun, there are some great, clean, honest, genuine single guys out there who would love to explore threesomes with you. I'd also point out that I'm in the UK and my own experiences might not totally match other peoples experiences, that some people have a great time with MMF / MFM threesome where others run into issues. I guess what follows is more of my opinions regarding the subjects.

 

Well.... Perhaps the first thing I quickly learned about men in this lifestyle is that actually a large number of the "Single Men" on swingers sites are NOT actually single at all. Now please don't get me wrong I am NOT SAYING that all men on swinging sites are cheating, I am simply saying a good number of so called "Single Men" on swinging sites are not really single at all and are cheating on their wife/girlfriends and trying to use swinging as an easy way to fuck other women.

 

That sure if a married man wants an affair and he meets a single women then sure he has to put in a lot of time and effort to meet that single women, he has to talk with her, chat with her, message her, arrange dates with her, keep in touch with her, often he would need to lie to her. Instead the man figures that swinging would be a much easier way to meet a women, that basically he can turn up at your house and bang someone else's wife and he doesn't have to care about her, he doesn't have to text her, doesn't have to keep in touch with her, that really he JUST WANTS SEX and figures and swingers wife will provide that sex, that overall it will be a quicker easier way for him to have his affair.

 

I am not making this up, in fact if you read enough men's profiles you will soon begin to run into profiles that say things like:

 

"Yes I am married but just looking for discreet fun on the side"

 

"Yes I am married but I'm in a sexless marriage so want so extra sex on the side"

 

"Yes I am married but my wife would never do anything like this so I'm doing it alone without her knowledge"

 

However the vast majority of cheating men DO NOT advertise that fact on their profile, however over the years I have chatted with hundreds of men who clearly say they are single in their profile, then after talking to them for a while they do actually admit they are married or in a relationship with a women who doesn't know about their swinging hobby.

 

Some men however are married / attached and will never tell you, they will keep it a 100% ironclad secret, so really you have 3 different types of cheating men on line.

 

1: The ones who advertise that they are married in their profile.

2: The ones who tell you they are married after chatting them for a while.

3: The ones who are married but will lie to your face and never utter a word about it.

 

The overall point however is that YES a good percent of men on line are married or attached and looking to cheat on their girlfriend/wife. I will repeat again that NOT ALL men on line are married or cheating, but in my own personal experience I have found that yes a lot of them are, that experience may be different for other people.

 

This situation instantly puts you in a morale dilemma, I mean do you want to play with a single man, or are you okay been a guys dirty little secret and affair fuck hole, are you okay knowing that you are enabling this man to have an affair. The other morale dilemma attached to this would be....

 

If this man is willing to lie to his own wife's face, then what on earth makes you think he won't lie to you as well?

 

If this man is willing to break the rules and vows of his relaitonship, then what makes you think he won't break your rules as well?

 

If this man is willing to put his marriage and family at risk by fucking strangers, then what makes you think he won't put you at risk as well?

 

 

It does stand to reason that if a man is willing to lie to his girlfriend/wife then he will not even think twice about lying to you as well, if a man is willing to break the rules of his own relationship then he will not think twice about breaking your rules as well. In many cases playing with a cheating man feels like inviting a wolf in sheep's clothing into your lives.

 

I have also found that playing with a married man can have very very negative effects on your own relaitonship, and sometimes on your own wife as well.

 

One of the defining factors about a married / cheating man is that they DO NOT HAVE TIME!!!!

 

I mean please imagine the scenario below:

 

 

ADAM wants his wife to consider swinger with another man, so over the next few years ADAM and his wife speak about the idea, they discuss the idea, they fantasise about the idea in bed, however Adams wife is nervous, she is unsure, she has fears and worries about the entire thing. In response Adam says things like: "Hey don't worry we can take is really slowly, we can meet a nice clean single man and we can get to know them first, we can chat with them loads, we can meet up and just relax and chat for a few hours, we can have a few drinks, chill out with him for a few hours, we can build a nice friendship with this man and then see how things go" and sure Adam's wife feels more comfy with that. Adam's wife already knows that she doesn't want to rush straight into sex with a stranger, she already knows that she would need some time to get to know this other man, that she would need some time to chat with this man, some time to relax with this new man, time to ask him questions. Adam's wife feels that rushing straight into sex would make her feel cheap / used / dirty / like a sex object / like a whore, she needs to know this other man will respect her, treat her as a person, treat her safely.

 

Some months later Adam meets a man on line who says he is single, really however this man is married and looking for an affair, so after chatting for a brief time Adam and his wife decide to meet this man, and what they find is that they have met a pushy / rushed / sex obsessed person who really only has 45 minutes to spare and wants to have full sex with Adam's wife within 10 minutes of meeting. You see this man is on a "TIME LIMIT" this man has told his own wife an excuse, he has told his own wife that....

 

"Hey honey I'm just popping out the shops, I'll be back in an hour"

 

"Hey honey I'm just popping to the gym, I won't be long"

 

"Hey honey I'm just popping to see my friend, I shouldn't be late home"

 

"Hey honey work is hectic today I might be an hour late home"

 

This man has then rushed to meet Adam and his wife and actually he has about 45 to 60 minutes free before his wife becomes suspicious, he walks in the door to meet Adam and his wife and looks nervous, he sits and chats for a very short time but Adam notices that after 10 minutes has passed the man becomes nervous, he has been here 10 minutes and your not having sex yet????? The man starts to sit on the edge of his seat, his knee starts bopping up and down impatiently, every two minutes he checks the time on this watch, every two minutes he checks his mobile phone to look at the time and check his wife has not messaged him asking where he is and why he is late.

 

Really want this man wanted is to walk in Adams house and to find Adam's wife laid there naked with her legs open and ready, the man then wanted to quickly kiss / lick / suck / and ram his cock up Adam's wife over the next 30 minutes, and then the VERY SECOND he has cum the man wanted to pull up his jeans and run straight towards the door so he can dash home at full speed before his own wife/girlfriend realises he has been gone. Really this man isn't interested in Adam's wife as person, he isn't really that interested in her feelings / needs / comfort levels, really he views Adam's wife as a sex doll, a fuck hole, and all he really cares about is himself / his own penis / getting to shove his penis in a new women which this week is Adam's wife.

 

Shortly after the event Adam's wife begins to feel bad, she didn't get the chance to relax, she didn't get the chance to speak with this new man, this new man seemed on edge, he seemed super rushed, he only seemed interested in having sex now, now, now, as quick as possible. His answers to her questions was quick and sharp, he wasn't interested in her, he wasn't interested in her safety or sexual comfort, he wasn't interested in her rules or ideas, really all this guy wanted was to sling his penis up her as fast as humanly possible and then to run out the door like the house was on fire. In response Adam's wife now feels used / she feels dirty / she feels like a sex doll / she feels like a cheap whore, in fact this man would have been better leaving some money on the table as he ran out the door.

 

 

The main point is that a married / attached man hardly every has TIME!!!!

 

You can generally spot such men during social meetings, I mean lets look at another example:

 

EXAMPLE ONE: ADAM and his wife decide to meet a single man for a social chat and a coffee, the man arrives to meet them and as he sits down he seems a little on edge, Adam instantly notices this man is looking around the coffee shop and seems to have a nervous look on his face, really this man is scanning the entire place to see if there is anyone he knows, to see if there is any of his wife's friends in there. Sitting down they begin to speak with this new man and basically he seems a little on edge, a little rushed, and Adam notices that this man is constantly watching the door of the coffee shop, anytime a customer walks in the door or leaves the coffee shop this man looks directly at them, he is checking to see if any of his friends, or his wife's friends are walking in the door to catch him chatting to a couple.

 

The man struggles to keep eye contact and gives very short almost sharp answers to questions, he doesn't really talk about himself much at all and when Adam and his wife do ask him questions he gives very short answers, this man doesn't want to give too much information away about his life, he doesn't want Adam to know that really this man also has a wife and 2 children at home that he is trying to cheat on, this man doesn't want to give away anything about his life just in case Adam or Adam's wife somehow back track and find this guys wife, so he gives very short answers, each question is answered by a very quick one line response during which the man struggle to keep direct eye contact.

 

He is not really smiling during these questions, he is not really happy talking about his life, that when Adam asks this man questions such as where he lives, who he lives with, if he is really single, what happened with his last relationship, why he is single, if he is seeing anyone at the moment, then this man is constantly forced to lie to Adam and sure its making this guy feel uncomfortable so his gives very short sharp answers and can not always maintain eye contact, he is also not relaxed, not smiling much, giving out fake smiles because really he is lying to Adam and to Adam's wife. In response the man also doesn't show much interest in Adams life, he doesn't ask them many questions. I mean this man is on a "TIME LIMIT" he has managed to get an hour away from his own wife and really this man isn't interested in finding out too much about Adam or Adams wife, really all he needs to know is Adam's wife has a vagina, a new vagina that he hasn't stuck his cock into yet.

 

The man constantly is checking the coffee shop, he is constantly looking around to make sure none of his wife's friends or family are in there, and like stated any time the door of the coffee shop opens he looks up to see who is entering the coffee shop, I mean shit what happens if his wife's friends walk in? What happens if his wife's family walk in? How will he ever explain why he was in a coffee shop speaking to total stranger? So sure the man checks everyone who walks in the door, he is constantly looking around hoping not to get caught out.

 

After about 10 or 15 minutes Adam notices that this man begins to check his phone or watch every two minutes, without fail every two minutes the man pulls out his phone to check the time, he is on a "Time Limit" he is checking the time constantly so he can get home before his wife/girlfriend notices he has been gone too long, he is also checking his phone to see if his wife/girlfriend has messaged asking him where he is and why he isn't home. After about 30 minutes the man will become even more impatient, suddenly he is sitting on the edge of his seat, suddenly he is making erratic movements such as bopping his knee up and down, constantly touching his face, checking his phone or watch at increased levels.

 

He lets out a lot of signals of been rushed / and of lying, he breaks eye contact a lot, he touches his face a lot, he covers his mouth when he speaks, he sits on his hands like he is hiding something, maybe he rocks back and forth a little like he is nervous and wants to the questions to be over, he is letting out tell tale signs of been nervous / lying / been in a rush. Usually around the 40 / 45 minute mark the man will then try and make an excuse to leave and will say the classic lines such as:

 

"Hey well its been great meeting you but I have to be somewhere in 15 minutes so I have to go"

 

"Hey its been nice meeting you but I have to go see my family in 15 minutes time"

 

That basically he "Suddenly" has something he needs to do, he then rushes off at warp speed to get home before his wife/girlfriend knows he has been gone too long.

 

 

EXAMPLE TWO: ADAM and his wife agree to meet a single man for a social meet in a local coffee shop, the man walks into the coffee shop and glances around a little bit which is fairly normal, he meets Adam and his wife with a happy relaxed smile on his face. He sits down and smiling he almost instantly starts to make conversation, he says things like "How are you? I'm glad we have finally got to meet, hows your day been?" Sitting down he might look a little nervous which is to be expected, he might look around the coffee shop a few times which is to be expected, however he soon begins to relax.

 

He makes decent eye contact, his posture doesn't seem rushed or overly nervous, he sits back in his seat, maybe puts his arm over the seat to relax, he seems engaged in the conversation and when asked personal questions he gives longer more detailed answers. This man isn't cheating on anyone, he isn't worried that his wife's friends are going to walk in the door any second. When Adam asks this man a question he not only gives a longer more detailed answer but he also follows it up with a question of his own, this guy is single he isn't on a time limit. He also tries to make several jokes, he laughs because he feels more comfy. The man Adam and wife met before didn't laugh, he didn't joke because to the cheating man this isn't a joke, he couldn't relax because he was on a time limit.

 

This guy however, the single guy isn't bothered if you chat for an hour or 2,3,4 hours, he isn't in a rush to escape back to his wife/girlfriend who is sitting at home wondering where he is. He seems to be a lot more interested in Adam and his wife's lives together, he asks various questions of his own and doesn't check his watch or phone every two minutes, isn't constantly watching the door expecting his wife's friends to walk in at any second, he keeps fairly good eye contact, he smiles, relaxes, laughs a lot more.

 

END RESULT:

 

Adam decides that the first guy they met (Example One) was probably cheating, that from word go the man was lying to Adam and his wife. Where the man in (Example Two) probably wasn't cheating, he showed a lot more interest in them as a couple and was far more relaxed and didn't feel rushed or like he was lying.

 

Really there are a lot of tell tale signs that married / attached / cheating men make, it's not just been rushed, its not just been nervous, there are plenty of other tell tale sings such as:

 

Wedding Ring: During several of my own social meetings with men I have noticed that the man will constantly touch his wedding ring finger, that basically for the last 10 years he has constantly worn a wedding ring, however 10 minutes before meeting us he has taken off his wedding ring and left it in his car or in his pocket. Now suddenly he is not wearing his wedding ring, over the last 10 years wearing it has almost become part of his body and now its missing he feels strange so he constantly touches / holds / hides / strokes his wedding ring finger where the ring usually sits.

 

Can't Answer Messages: When you send a married / attached man a text message you commonly find they can not answer such messages in the evening when there at home with their wife/girlfriend. For example if a man works a regular 9 to 5 type of job then generally he can message you a lot between the hours of 9 to 5. Then in the evening after 17:30 when he is at home with his wife/girlfriend he can not message you back then. So for example during the day whilst he is at work the man has sent you 4 or 5 text messages, then he returns home from work at around 17:30 / 18:00 in the evening and suddenly all goes totally quiet, his wife is there, his wife is awake so he can not answer your messages. THEN usually between 23:00 to 02:00 after his wife has gone to sleep you will then get a volley of text messages, the mans wife has gone to sleep to the man quickly pulls out his phone and replies to the text messages you have sent meaning late at night you get a volley of replies.

 

Can't Meet Quickly: Sometimes in their profiles cheating men try and make excuses for their behaviour, I mean don't get me wrong NOT ALL MEN are cheating, some men do have legitimate life issues, however some cheating men will say things in their profile like....

 

"I can't meet at the drop of a hat, I need to arrange it in advance"

Translated into cheating man speak: "I can't meet whenever I like, I have to find the right day where my wife isn't about to notice"

 

"I have a very busy hectic job so can only meet on occasion or at strange times that suit me"

Translated into cheating man speak: "I have a wife so might need to meet at really strange times like really early in the morning so she doesn't know I'm gone"

 

"I can only meet in the day time"

Translated into cheating man speak: "I can only meet when my wife is at work in the day"

 

Usually a single man has a lot less worries about when he can meet you, sure he might need to meet you after work but he can meet on most days, doesn't make constant excuses about been too busy.

 

 

Turning Up In Work / Hobby Clothes: Another give away sign a lot of attached / married men make is that when they do come and meet you they are always wearing their work clothes / gym gear / hunting gear / fishing clothes / running clothes. They have told their wife things such as:

 

"Hey honey I'm just off to the gym I won't be long" and then they dash to your house in their gym gear for a quick threesome bash with your wife.

 

"Hey honey work is really hectic today I might be an hour late" then they rush to your house in their work uniform for a quick threesome romp.

 

"Hey honey I'm just going fishing, running, hunting, or some other hobby" then they dash to your house with a car full of fishing gear or whatever else.

 

This annoys the hell out of me :( I really dislike this behaviour because honestly when we do have a MFM / MMF threesome my wife has often taken several hours to get ready, she has fully bathed, she has shaved her legs, spent ages doing her hair, she has trimmed her nails, plucked her eyebrows, put on nice perfume, picked out sexy underwear, trimmed or shaved her pubic hair, she has spent several hours making sure she is spotless / clean / fresh. Then in response you have a guy rushing to your house who is wearing stinking sweaty gym gear or the same clothes he has been working in for the last 8 hours meaning he is stale, not washed, sweaty, not very nice at all.

 

If a guy turns up to meet you and is wearing work clothes / hobby gear / carrying gym bags / has a car full of hobby equipment then yes sometimes they are cheating and using their hobby as an excuse to meet people for sex, or obviously the classic I'll be late home from work tonight honey seeing them turn up in work clothes.

 

 

Not Groomed: This is always a hard one to judge, you see some people just have terrible hygiene, however as a rule of thumb you find that young clean single men have good hygiene levels, where as married / attached men do have reasonable hygiene but they often stop grooming themselves as much. For an example me and my partner do NOT LIKE overgrown pubic hair on a man, we do not like it when a man pulls out his penis and it doesn't look like he has ever trimmed his pubic hair. So when we speak to a man on line we make sure to ask him if he will please cut / heavily trim his pubic hair before we meet, and to cut his finger nails, if possible be freshly shaved and so on. Married / attached men sometimes have difficulties doing this because if they suddenly have a shave / trim their nails / cut their pubic hair then their wife at home will notice and ask who they are seeing or why they have suddenly began grooming themselves all of a sudden.

 

Dress Sense: I generally find that a single guy will make more effort when meeting you, they will put on a nice shirt, clean shoes, clean jeans, they will dress up a little bit more like they are having a date. An attached / married man really struggles to do that and they will either turn up to meet you in gym gear / hobby clothes / work clothes / or just general clothes they wear everyday. If a married man puts on a posh shirt / nice new jeans / grooms himself / shaves / splashes on nice scents then his wife will instantly notice and figure out he is gearing up to meet someone special. Most cheating men will turn up to meet you either in their hobby or work clothes, or in the clothes they would wear everyday around their wife.

 

Speech: The ways the man speaks is often a massive give away sign, in fact the longer you speak with a cheating man, the longer you know a cheating man you will notice a lot of them begin to make mistakes, when asked certain questions they will respond as a couple, I will give a few examples of this.

 

WE SAY: Yeah we are going to Greece on holiday this year, what about you?

 

CHEATING MAN SAYS: Oh yeah "WE" are going to France this year.

 

WE SAY: Yeah we are thinking about buying a new BMW car, what about you?

 

CHEATING MAN SAYS: Oh yeah "WE" have a VW car

 

WE SAY: We would like to move house to the posher area up the road.

 

CHEATING MAN SAYS: Oh yeah "OUR" house is in a similar area.

 

The cheating man will start making comments using words such as "WE" "OUR" That he begins speaking as a couple.

 

Our house / our car / our mortgage / our holiday.

 

We will be going on holiday / we will be buying a new car / we would like to move to a better area.

 

You can actually use this to trick men during social meets, for example if you meet a man who says he is single but you are unsure then you can ask him a lot of "WE" questions, a lot of "OUR" questions, such as:

 

"We are thinking about changing our mortgage, what about you?"

"We are thinking about going to Greece next year, what about you?"

"Our home needs a new window fitting what about your house?"

"Our garden needs cleaning again, what about yours do you like gardening?"

 

If you ask a man a lot of questions that contain the words "WE / OURS" then a man who is married / attached will often answer back by saying "WE / OUR" in his replies, that by asking him questions as a couple he will start responding as a couple. In my life I have met maybe 10 or 15 different guys who say they are single and then after a short while start making mistakes and begin speaking as a couple. The two simple words "WE / OUR" often give them away.

 

 

So yes overall there a lot of things that can give away a cheating man.

 

Why is this so relevant?

 

 

Well the original poster has shown a strong interest in meeting a man to explore a MFM threesome, however there is a big difference between having a MFM threesome with a single man compared to a married or cheating man. In fact I have often found that swinging with a cheating man can drastically impact your own wife, and your wife's views about this entire subject, that actually meeting a cheating man who is lying to you, a man who is breaking the rules, a rushed man who doesn't even have time to chat with your properly can put your wife off this entire subject, that such cheating men can actually damage your life, upset your wife, leave your wife feeling lied to / used / rushed / not respected / like a whore / like a dirty sex doll / like a sex object.

 

In most cases with a married / attached / cheating man what basically happens is.....

 

"They lie to you from word go, they turn up to meet you in a rushed fashion, they are not as groomed as you would like, they often are wearing musty stale work clothes or sweaty gym gear, they have not bothered trimming their pubic hair or cutting their nails because they don't want their partner at home to notice, they are not dressed up for a date they are wearing fairly standard clothes they would wear everyday in front of their own wives. They turn up to meet you and they are RUSHED they are on the clock, they have a time limit. They are not interested in friendship, not interested in talking, not interested in relaxing, not interested in your wife's needs, not interested in giving your wife time to relax and get to know them, really they have 40 to 60 minutes spare and basically want to walk in your house, pull down their pants, ram their cock up your wife, then pull up their jeans and be out the door before your wife has even had chance to sit upright"

 

"They try to dictate everything, they can only speak with you when it suits them, they can only meet you when it suits them, they have to meet in a rushed awkward fashion, they can only meet really early in the morning before work, they can only meet on one set evening a week when their wife is at Yoga class or visits her family that night. They rush in so fast that your own wife ends up feeling like a fuck hole, sure your wife agreed to meet a man for a threesome and she was expecting to talk / make a friend / share drinks / relax / get to know the person a little first, but actually the cheating man doesn't have time for any of that nonsense, really all he wants is to ram his dick into a women and get home before his own partner realises"

 

 

If you want to swing with MEN then you have to ask yourself if you want to sleep with a single man, or if your okay having an affair with a married man. If you decide your okay having an affair with a married or attached man then you seriously need to explain that to your wife, you need your wife to understand that your swinging life with this married man will be a very rushed thing where he arrives at the house, fucks your wife all over and is leaving again within the hour. That with a married / cheating man it will just be a purely sexual thing, he won't have time to relax, won't have time for friendship, really all he will have time for is a good old blast up your wife's pussy before he scurry's back off to his own wife at home.

 

 

In many cases what a cheating man really wants is a "FREE PROSTITUTE" a free no hassle hooker that they don't have to pay, so they rush into couples houses and want to treat your wife as that free hooker which in turn can have a devastating effect on your wife. In a lot of cases a cheating man will destroy your wife's entire view about this subject. Your wife imagined a world where you would meet a nice single guy, become friends, get to know them, share hours worth of chatting, have time to relax, share romantic highly sexed nights where your wife is made to feel special, where your wife is made to feel comfy, where your wife has time to adapt and relax. Instead she ends up with a sex obsessed cheating man rushing in the door and lying to your faces and wanting to treat her like a free whore and have sex with her within 10 minutes of walking in and then running off into the night without as much as a thank you.

 

Sure your wife expected this friendly, open, trusting, relaxed but fun experience, and really a cheating guy comes along and turns her into a free prostitute in a single night, as a result your wife feels lied to / used / dirty / not respected and suddenly she doesn't want to try swinging every again all thanks to the cheating lying scum bag you met. He doesn't care, he got his dick wet in a new women, he is happy, he cheated and got away with it. Your wife is the one left holding all the upset connected with that.

 

If your interested in meeting men for threesomes then you need to quickly decide if you simply want to bang your wife like a sex doll, or if you want to meet a single man who can offer you more time and some mild relaxation and friendship. It helps if you prepare your wife and explain that some guys do cheat, some guys are very rushed, that if you meet such a guy you can always meet someone different, someone who will treat your wife with respect and not like a free hooker.

 

 

SEX ON THE MIND:

 

Its also worth understanding that an awful lot of men into the swinging world basically have sex 110% of their minds.

 

That actually a lot of guys who get into swinging are not doing so to make friends / they don't care about friendship / they are not bothered about talking for hours / they are not bothered about your lives / your rules / your desires. These men are not bothered about your relationship / not bothered about your marriage / not bothered about your children's lives / not bothered about your hopes, dreams, desires.

 

In fact in the swinging world a lot of men are simply bothered about:

 

1: Themselves.

2: Their penis.

3: Getting to stick their penis in new peoples holes.

 

This creates a scenario where the only thing on their mind is SEX,SEX,SEX, and that's about all.

 

This means men into swinging will often bombard you with questions such as:

 

"So does your wife like it up the ass?"

 

"So does your wife like swallowing fat loads of man cum?"

 

"So does your wife mind her ass been licked?"

 

"So does your wife spit or swallow?"

 

"So does your wife enjoy big dicks?"

 

"So will your wife lick my balls?"

 

In reality they would be much better asking what hobbies your wife likes / what films your wife likes / what food your wife likes / what type of wine your wife likes / what beliefs your wife has / what her name is / what would help her relax / what would help her feel comfy / what dress sense she has.

 

Sure they would be much better finding out about your wife as a PERSON instead the only questions a lot of men can muster are things like.....

 

"Do you think your wife could fit my cock in her ass?"

 

The classic questions that most guys ask is....

 

"So what are you into, what sexual things are you looking for?"

 

That really with a lot of guys on line the entire conversation is just SEX, SEX, SEX and nothing else.

 

In most cases I find it to be rude / at times insulting / boring / obsessive / childish, but sure most men are simply interested in telling you how big their cock is, how great their body is, and then just rambling on about sex and rude things almost none stop. An awful lot of men online will ask if they can have anal sex with your wife before they have even introduced themselves, you don't even know this mans name, you know 0% about this man and he is asking to bare back your wife and get her to swallow his cum, it all shows a drastic disrespect for the women involved in this picture.

 

I mean if you was a single man and you noticed a women stud at a bar would you walk up and say:

 

A) Hey sexy do you want my fat cock up your ass? Do you want to swallow my big man load?

 

B) Hi whats your name? I'm Adam, how are you doing today? Do you like this style of music? Are you having a nice night?

 

A lot of men in the swinging world just go straight to the most extreme sexual things.

 

I think a lot of men into swinging basically think that your wife/girlfriend is a super confident, super cock hungry whore who is basically a sexual porn star and will do ANYTHING. They imagine that all your wife really does is sit at home all day naked thinking about the next cock that's going to get shoved up her pussy. The man sit there thinking your wife must spend her entire days day dreaming about his cock, that your wife jumps up and down everyday asking for strangers to come and shove their dicks in her ass hole.

 

Maybe there are women out their like that, but in my honest experience 99% of swingers wives are just ordinary people, they are PEOPLE, they have busy lives, they have thoughts, desires, concerns, worries, fears, responsibilities, that most women do not sit there thinking about sex for 100% of their day, most women spend their time thinking about their friends, thinking about their family / pets / work / home / holidays / nights out / the next big event / the next job they want doing on the house. I have NEVER met a women who just sits at home all day thinking about the next strangers cock in her ass, but basically that is what a lot of men into swinging seem to expect, that is what men think is happening.

 

I mean surly your wife has agreed to swing that means she MUST BE a super cock hungry whore and dirty slapper who will take it in every hole from any man who offers? I mean come on your wife has agreed to swinging that means she is a filthy cock hungry whore who is as confident as a porn star? In most cases nothing could be further from the truth, in most cases a swinging wife is not a porn star, is not super confident, is not a dirty whore with nothing at all but sex on her mind. Bur sadly in this lifestyle that is what a lot of the guys think.

 

Nope she is not a person, she is a vagina on legs.

Nope she doesn't have normal worries like everyone else, she will take it in every hole from any man who comes along.

Nope she doesn't have a personality, she just sits there all day thinking about cock.

 

This is how a lot of guys think online, your wife isn't really a person, she is a vagina, she is a bum hole, she is a mouth that sucks cock.

 

This again can have a rather devastating effect on your wife/girlfriend, on one hand your wife wants to be treated with respect, care, safety, excitement, she wants to be treated as a person, where really most guys roll up and want to treat her like a filthy sex doll who has no mind other than thinking about cock and sex. With a lot of guys online all they actually want to talk about is SEX. Its all fairly boring, I have had sex before, I am able to have sex again, I find sex enjoyable but by no means is it my entire life or the only thing I want to talk about.

 

I find it fairly funny when you meet such a sex obsessed man, its funny to let them ask all of their sex questions, to ask every dirty rude and vulgar question they have in their minds, and then watch them after they run out of questions, suddenly they are like a fish out of water, suddenly they have no idea at all what to say. I don't know hows about you ask our names? Hows about you tell us your name? Hows about you ask what we do for a living? Hows about you ask us about our hobbies? And honestly they are dumbstruck, they have no idea what to say, really they don't give two fucks about you they are just here for the sex part and once they run out of steam talking about sex, sex, sex, then they are like lost little children without a clue what to say next.

 

Most of the messages you get from men will basically be "Hey I have a hard dick, does your wife want it or what?" Then after getting a 100 of those messages you will get a message that says "Hi my name is Adam, I'm 6'1ft tall, I work in I.T, I like football and surfing online, what is your name, what hobbies do you have?"

 

 

MEN OVERALL:

 

Well I'm not meaning to put you off the idea of swinging with men, honestly it can be great fun and yes there are some really nice, clean, genuine guys out there (not all guys are bad) but I am giving you some information on what to expect so you and your wife can better prepare for it. The biggest question regarding men is really more about your wife, will your wife be happy sleeping with a cheating man, or would she prefer someone who is single. Would your wife prefer meeting a man who has time to chat, time to spare, or would she be okay with a man walking in the door and just banging her and then leaving. Do you simply want this to be about sex, sex, sex, or do you want to meet a guy who can also offer some basic friendship and chat.

 

If your wife hates men who cheat, then why meet a cheating man to swing with?

 

If your wife doesn't want to feel like a dirty whore or sex object, then why meet a man who is unable to speak about anything but sex?

 

If your wife would feel bad meeting a man who is always in a rush, then why meet a man who always has a time limit?

 

Finding out what your wife would really want will help you pick the best man for a threesome, and remember there is nothing wrong with meeting a man for a social meeting, figure the guy out, try and figure out if he is cheating or not, try and figure out if he is lying or not, if you like the guy you can always meet him again, if you don't like him you can simply not meet him again.

 

In some respects meeting a guy for social coffee is like an interview, sometimes a job will interview 50 people before they pick 1 person for the job, I once applied for a job that had 280 applicants and I got the job, so sure if you have to interview 10 or even 20 guys before you find one who fits the bill then do so, there are thousands of guys on line to pick from. I'd also say that often local swingers sites get new male members all the time, you can look on a swingers site one month, then when you look again the next month there are 20 new male members in your city that have joined the site. Okay you might run into trouble if you live in a small town or village, but generally if you live in a city / near a city then sure new men join such sites on weekly basis.

 

Personally I find that having threesome sex with a man is easy, getting a man to agree to sex is easy, finding a friend, compatible partner, someone who makes your wife comfy is the harder part.

 

 

 

SINGLE WOMEN:

 

I will try and keep this bit shorter (he says) but basically meeting a single women to swing with is a lot harder than meeting a man, however in my experience a women will offer you a lot more respect, a lot more friendship, a lot more decency than a man will. I find that women are generally a lot better at processing both friendship and sex at the same time.

 

With your average MAN you are either JUST FRIENDS or your a sex partner, you are one, or you are the other, women however seem much better at doing both at the same time. Trust me a women will often offer you 100 times more friendship and normal decency than a man will. A man basically wants to know you so he can bang your wife, a women on the other hand might agree to have a threesome with you both, but she will also be happy to meet for meals / watch films / have drinking nights / have day trips / just sit around and chat.

 

When you invite a MAN into your house then usually the ONLY THING on that mans mind is SEX. When you invite a women into your home is more a case of what are we doing tonight? Are we having sex tonight? Are we cooking a meal? Shall we go out for food? Shall we watch a film? Shall we just chat? In most cases you can start a threesome friendship with a women and she will be happy coming to your house even if your not planning to have sex that night.

 

Honestly I have had a fair few MFF situations in my life and for me they are a joyful experience, getting to have sex with two women in the same bed feels amazing, but it is also really nice just to chill out / chat / watch films / eat food / to have a new friend in our lives. However sadly there are also problems with this option.

 

The main problem I have found with MFF situations is not only your own wife becoming jealous, but the sheer fact that keeping a MFF friendship going takes a MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WORK.

 

That women get board really easily, that most women do not want to be a once a month sex call, that really most women who do agree to a threesome with you as a couple kind of expects a very very very regular friendship. Perhaps a better way of saying this would be.

 

If your not messaging that women everyday, then another couple or single man will be.

 

If your not inviting that women around every week, then another couple or man will be.

 

Sure if you meet a MAN then you can have sex with that man and then not even bother contacting him for several months, sure you can have sex with a man and then call him back 2 months later and ask if he wants sex again? And he will say sure, he does want sex again even after months of not hearing anything from you. With as women however if you have sex with a women and then you do not call her for a week, then suddenly she is upset, suddenly she feels used, suddenly she has become board of this friendship, suddenly she has lost interest in meeting you again for sex.

 

The first week you do not message this girl is the week she goes out and meets a boyfriend of her own, or a different couple who does have time to message her everyday and see her every week. In a lot of cases if a women does agree to have a threesome with you then really you need to see that women 1,2,3,4,5,6 times PER WEEK. You need to invite her to your home for sex / for meal nights / just to chill / you have to meet her in the city for coffee / text her almost everyday / email her / keep in constant contact, or else she will soon get bored and move on.

 

I had one MFF situation that lasted about a year and honestly to make it last that long I had to stay in almost constant contact with both women, if they was not at my house, then I needed to be texting them, asking how their days were going, making invites for them to stay at my house, making invites to go out together, making invites to watch movies, eat food, hang out.

 

It is really difficult because.....

 

1: Your own wife/girlfriend might agree to have a threesome with another girl, but actually your wife/girlfriend doesn't want this other women to take over your life, your partner doesn't want this other women in your bed 7 days a week, they want to keep this other women at a safe happy distance, at times your wife wants to push away this other women, your wife will often make statements like.....

 

"I want to spend this week with is JUST BEEN ME AND YOU, I don't want her round this week"

 

"I want to spend quality time as a couple, I don't want our entire life been about threesomes with this girl"

 

"I feel nervous when she comes round too much, I don't mind us having a threesome with her on occasion, but not all the time"

 

 

2: On the flip side you have this other women who will very quickly get bored unless you see her every week / message her almost everyday.

 

 

So it becomes a rather difficult juggling act, on one side you have to see this new women enough for her to stay interested in the friendship, where on the other side you have to spend enough alone time with your own girlfriend/wife so she doesn't become too freaked out about this new women sharing your bed. Your trying to pull this new women close, whilst keeping her at arms length. Its a very difficult task that requires a lot of work, lot of effort, and a difficult balance.

 

I remember at one point I had been having a MFF threesome for about 6 months when I asked both girls to consider been my "Girlfriends" to both date me together, they both agreed, they both agreed to class me as their boyfriend, that they would see me alone whenever I please, or together. Honestly on about 4 or 5 days a week I would come home from work and there would be two girls sat there waiting for me. On an average week I was spending 4 or 5 evenings per week having MFF threesomes with them both, and on other days I'd see them alone, but it just became too much, I couldn't keep the balance going, some weeks I was just too tired to constantly be in contact with them both, to constantly arrange meetings, plus the first girl I was already dating before the MFF situation ended up a bit jealous at times.

 

I remember on a lot of evenings I would come home from work and have a shower, then I'd pop to one of the girls houses and spend a few hours bare backing her all over her bedroom, then I'd head to my house and see my other girlfriend and would fuck her as well with my dick still wet from the first girl. I think one of the best things about that time was my girlfriend at home would get really turned on sucking my dick when she knew I had just slept with my other girl. I'd literally spend several hours bare backing one girl then I'd take a 5 minute drive home and walk in to another girl who was eagerly pulling on my trousers and on most occasions would just unzip my jeans and start sucking my dock the moment I walked in the door, you could literally still smell the sex and pussy juices on my dick and my girlfriend would drop to her knees and spend 15 minutes giving me a full on blow job before she wanted me in her pussy, on many evenings I'd be kissing my girlfriend and we could both still taste the other girls pussy on our lips.

 

It felt great knowing on most evenings I'd get to cum inside two different girls, on many evenings I'd be laid in bed with both girls and both of them would have pussies full of my cum. Yeah it does feel great having a MFF situation but in my experience the wife/girlfriend ends up pushing the other girl away, that on one hand you need to give your own wife a break from this new women, but on the other hand need to constantly meet this other women to keep her interested.

 

 

OVERALL:

 

 

There is a big difference between MFM AND MFF threesomes, desiring a MFM threesome is perfectly normal, it can be great fun, but I do suggest learning a lot more about what your own wife would want. If your wife wants to relax / talk / get to know the man / take her time then do not meet a cheating man because they won't have the time or respect to offer you.

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Do you prefer MMF or MFF?

Both my wife and I prefer couples swaps. Yeah, it can be exciting watching my wife doing another guy, but it's even better while my dick's in another woman. If I had to choose a threesome, it would be MFF. I can lick and fuck at the same time. :)

My wife's bi, so it happens.

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My questions are:

Do you prefer MMF or MFF? and

Do you believe we are a special group of people feeling this way or do you believe more people have these thoughts and just havenot been able to talk about it?

1) You should be asking your wife this question. But since you asked, as a woman I prefer MMFF with me being one of the Fs. I enjoy my Lesbian side, but also one guy isn't enough.

2) The evidence is here on the Swingersboard - it may be a small percentage of the population, but overall it is still a lot of people who like to share their spouse, men and women.

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To be absolutely honest my personal preference would be MFM + me watching..... also a gangbang.

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I see MFM and MMF lists as though there is a difference.

 

Is there?

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The way I see it used most often, The Letter in the middle is the general focus.

MMF implies MM play. MFM nether impies MM play nor explicitly eliminates the possibility.

The letter in the middle, it is implied, will play with the two on the sides.

 

Analogous criteria is applicable to FFM and FMF.

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This is my interpretation as well.

 

That explanation makes sense, I guess. And now that I think about it, putting the two Ms next to one another is kinda gay.....not that there's anything wrong with that! :)

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That explanation makes sense, I guess. And now that I think about it, putting the two Ms next to one another is kinda gay.....not that there's anything wrong with that! :)

 

Whatever the arrangement or the letters, I would seek clarity on the matter before engagement.

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I like both, but my fiance prefers FFM. When I press for a MMF she starts to ask the why questions. I think it would be hot to see her with another good looking guy. Truth be told, nothing wrong with a man checking out another guy but she she might think differently. While we had FFM experiences we never had a MMF experience. I hoping that it comes soon because I do have my image of the guy I can see her with.

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I was getting this response the few times I brought up MMF early in our marriage. Later, I learned she was thinking I was testing her, seeing if she felt she needed more man, more men, bigger, whatever.

Once she was aware that my desire for an mmf had to do with experimenting on my part, as well as opening her to new crazy pleasure, she was open to it. It still took a little while to wrap her head around the idea but once she did, she jumped in with both feet.

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The idea has grown from an exciting fantasy in my head to a fantasy that I talk to her about in the bedroom constantly. The idea make me feel like I teenager exploring sex for the first time. I get so incredibly and uncontrollably turned on when we discuss it.

 

Me too!. You are not alone. My dreams of her having sex with another man became an obsession.

 

I have noticed, much to my surprise, that my fantasy is not so abnormal. In fact, if I'm correct, it seems as though the majority of people in these discussions not only support the idea of MFM but may prefer MFM over MFF.

 

The only way my wife agreed to try it (MMF) was that I wasn't doing it just to have sex with other women. She couldn't bear the image of me having sex, making love, with another woman. That wasn't my motivation. I just wanted to watch her getting fucked by another man like in my dream. I wasn't interested in reciprocation.

 

My questions are:

 

Do you believe we are a special group of people feeling this way or do you believe more people have these thoughts and just have not been able to talk about it?

 

You are not alone and you are not abnormal. You have come to the right place. I think that there are more people that have these thoughts than are willing to admit to or talk about (except here of course) or to act on.

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That explanation makes sense, I guess. And now that I think about it, putting the two Ms next to one another is kinda gay.....not that there's anything wrong with that! :)

 

Not gay!! Just bi sexual. I guess you must be some kind of homophobe. Gotta tell you,that usually means you are shit scared of your own secret bi feelings. Don't bottle it up let it go, try it, you will feel so much better and be so much happier.

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We have done both, we've enjoyed both pretty much for the same reason. Who doesn't like to be the center of attention from 2 skilled playmates. I always look at our MFM as an opportunity to double team Mrs Doc into as many orgasms as she can handle. I don't look at is as an underhanded way to get a dick in my mouth, which holds absolutely ZERO interest for me or my wife. The FMF is a way to visually and erotically overload my senses. While Mrs Doc loves the touch and feel of another woman, she's not bi and her goal is to give me an experience that leaves me panting and weak in the knees.

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I am very interested in mmf I have a very uncontrollable dream and I will do my best to make it happen and I will be here for a couple to get in touch with.

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Not gay!! Just bi sexual. I guess you must be some kind of homophobe. Gotta tell you,that usually means you are shit scared of your own secret bi feelings. Don't bottle it up let it go, try it, you will feel so much better and be so much happier.

 

Relax. I was just making a joke. Apparently you didn’t get the Seinfeld reference in my statement.

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My threesome configuration preference is MFM. I've done many of both, but I get more turned-on watching my partner having a good time and being part of her good time. We're not alone by any means. Cuckold is a top search keyword year after year. Now most men wouldn't consider themselves cuckolds because they are having sex with their wife too and a true cuckold does not get to fuck his wife unless she lets him, but the general idea is that to find good MFM porn, especially amateur, "cuckold" is what is searched for. As far as myself, my wife and I always had lots of sex, and we had lots of threesomes with other men, and there were times I was "Pass me the popcorn, I just want to watch tonight". Many men will tell you that their wife is their favorite porn star, and watching her have sex with someone else provides a view we never get to see when we're the one having sex with her.

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I think the turn on for me is knowing other guys are turned on by my wife and want to fuck her. There is an element of control there as well in that I have veto power and I can participate or not. We as men are definitely visual creatures. That extends not only to the sex but all things leading up to it. I love watching her flirt and make guys squirm once they realize they have a chance. I love seeing her expose herself slowly to another guy, drawing him in. I love watching her lean in tempting him to touch or kiss her and of course I love seeing the sex. Yes, she is my favorite porn star. We're full swapp but watching her has been a far bigger turn on than anything I've experienced with another woman. I sometimes find myself feeling guilty afterwards for not paying as much attention as I should to my swap partner.

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We had our first MFM with hubby, then just bf, and I thought wow, why haven’t I been doing this my entire life. Hubby seemed to enjoy it as well although I didn’t understand why. Two weeks later, I started seducing a man, younger guy, who sat next to us at a bar, chatting with us and then flirting with me. It turned into our 2nd MFM. Again, I loved it, and hubby enjoyed it. After a few more we tried a couples club and did our first swap, we both enjoyed it and probably did 3 or so MFM for each swap. Basically, I did the swaps to be fair to hubby. As we added other activities, home parties, etc., then the swaps seemed less required and MFM remained prevalent, in large part due to my enjoyment of them and the ease at which one can make them occur.

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We had our first MFM with hubby, then just bf, and I thought wow, why haven’t I been doing this my entire life. Hubby seemed to enjoy it as well although I didn’t understand why. Two weeks later, I started seducing a man, younger guy, who sat next to us at a bar, chatting with us and then flirting with me. It turned into our 2nd MFM. Again, I loved it, and hubby enjoyed it. After a few more we tried a couples club and did our first swap, we both enjoyed it and probably did 3 or so MFM for each swap. Basically, I did the swaps to be fair to hubby. As we added other activities, home parties, etc., then the swaps seemed less required and MFM remained prevalent, in large part due to my enjoyment of them and the ease at which one can make them occur.

 

It is definitely easier and that in itself may add to the appeal for me as well. It's just more likely to happen and happen quicker. We all know that it's difficult to make a four way connection. Women, for the most part are more selective. My wife needs to feel comfortable with both parties of a swap. She has to like the other woman and that "like" can be on many levels. She needs to feel sexy, good in the surroundings and a hundred other things need to feel right for a swap to happen. Since we only play in clubs this generally has to happen within a 3 -4 hour window. I on the other hand have to just be cool with the other guy. If my wife likes him I'm probably going to be ok with whatever she wants to do with him. As long as I'm physically attracted to his wife at all I know I can make something happen even if I end up the night finishing with my wife. I'll be so turned on by her actions anyway it won't be difficult for me.

 

For a MFM to happen for us the other guy just needs to be charming and outgoing. If he can be those things then the comfort level she needs to feel suddenly all fall into place. All attention can then be focused on her and when it is she goes into her own seduction mode and will generally take over, not in a dominant way but just in a way that lets me and the other guy know "it's on". When that other part of the equation doesn't exist and it's easy for her to relax and enjoy the attention and give attention. In our preferred club setting this can all happen within an hour if everything goes right.

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My threesome configuration preference is MFM. there were times I was "Pass me the popcorn, I just want to watch tonight". Many men will tell you that their wife is their favorite porn star, and watching her have sex with someone else provides a view we never get to see when we're the one having sex with her.

 

Do you mean she will do an MFM with two other guys and you just watch? Since we mostly do couples swaps (and threesomes within couples or alone play depending on who's available), the situation where my wife has done MFM with me watching has happened only three times. And each time I couldn't wait to jump in and get mine afterwards. Fortunately, she was very willing for one more go.

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Do you mean she will do an MFM with two other guys and you just watch? Since we mostly do couples swaps (and threesomes within couples or alone play depending on who's available), the situation where my wife has done MFM with me watching has happened only three times. And each time I couldn't wait to jump in and get mine afterwards. Fortunately, she was very willing for one more go.

 

Not that I'm an expert, but I think this is a major virtue of small group play. Hanging out with two other couples at once leaves room for a lot of unexpected developments.

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Do you mean she will do an MFM with two other guys and you just watch? Since we mostly do couples swaps (and threesomes within couples or alone play depending on who's available), the situation where my wife has done MFM with me watching has happened only three times. And each time I couldn't wait to jump in and get mine afterwards. Fortunately, she was very willing for one more go.

 

My wife has recently brought up this scenario. We are excited about the prospects but realize that in our club environment it may be a little more difficult to pull off. Single guy night is limited to about 5 guys.

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